Misused: Screw This Im Outta Here

According to the description, Screw This, I'm Outta Here is about a character fleeing danger and often abandoning their team to do so.

Most of the wicks, however...

I (with the help of Crossover-Enthusiast) did my Screw This Im Outta Here Wick Check with 114 wicks (some of them from the redirect, Screw This, I'm Out of Here!). Of those 114, 77 were about characters leaving out of boredom, frustration, annoyance, etc, rather than out of danger.

Now, I'm not entirely sure if this is actual misuse or just a too-narrow description, but either way, the solution is simple: We just change the description to conform it to the "misuse".

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 9th 2021 at 2:00:15 PM

Opening.

Seconding expanding the description.

Thirding expanding the description.

Ay, exactly a month later too

My vote remains the same: Expand.

Fourthing expanding the definition.

I dunno.. "Character Leaves" isn't really something that strikes me as legitimately tropeworthy.

It's always as a reaction to something though. None of the examples were just "character leaves". It's always out of annoyance, or hurt, or anger. Why is the fear version inherently more tropeworthy than those?

A trope is supposed to be not just "Thing that happened" but also a meaning to it.

'Character leaves out of boredom' has a meaning. 'Character leaves out of fear' has a meaning. 'Character leaves from irritation' has a meaning. 'Character leaves for any of a wide variety of reasons' does not.

In other words, there would be some justification for spliting the misuse off, but putting them together reduces the thing to little more than a chair.

Edited by Zyffyr on Mar 8th 2021 at 8:26:48 AM

Really? Because to me it doesn't matter why the character leaves so much as the impact of the reaction. They're just up and ditching everyone else because they aren't happy with the situation. They're saying "Fuck this, I'm out", and leaving everyone else behind. That's the meaning right there. I don't think splitting it off based on the emotion they happen to be feeling at the time would make more sense- if anything it'd just be redundant and confusing.

What's the big narrative difference, for example, if Bob leaves a party out of anger, rather than if he leaves out of boredom? Sure, it took a different series of events to get him bored rather than angry and those specific things might be tropes in and of themselves, but what relevance do they have to the end result, and why would it make the resulting trope any different?

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 8th 2021 at 11:30:50 AM

I agree that the trope here is the abrupt ditching and not the reason for the ditching. to expand

So the core is that the leaving is at such a time or place that it seriously impacts those left behind?

So these don't count:

• Retirement from armed forces after years of service
• Give your 2 weeks notice at from a job
• Decline your friends' invitation to go camping

While these do:

• Desertion in the face of the enemy
• Quit in the middle of the rush because Boss is stupid/One to many kids threw up on you, etc.
• Deciding a day and a half in that you don't like camping, and you're going back to the car, taking the cooking kit with you.

Yeah. It's not just "character leaves or retires", it's "Character decides in the spur of the moment to leave, because they're unhappy and want out on the spot".

It's not like the first paragraph doesn't offer more than "too dangerous" reasons for the character to leave. We can add the words frustration and boredom and be done.

That's just the first paragraph though. The rest is very specific, until it suddenly gets broader at the end, but those two paragraphs at the top and bottom are the only ones that don't specify fleeing from danger and abandoning team-mates.

I'm fine with expanding it.

Yeah, expand the definition never really understood why it was so narrow.

Should we make a crowner? If so, what kind?

Adapted Out had a Single Proposition crowner when voting on whether to expand the definition. Given how the only solution that's been suggested so far is to expand to cover the misuse, a SP crowner seems like the type of crowner we should do.

Well, one person was saying that we should split the different emotions into tropes of their own.

You must be talking about this post. Originally, I thought they were just saying that combining the misuse into one trope would be chairs. Upon rereading, I noticed that I missed "there would be some justification for splitting the misuse off" which I guess is proposing to split the misuse off. Sorry for missing that.

It's cool. It might mean I need to make a Page Action crowner, though.

There have been times when I made Page Action crowners with one option in case I missed anything, so either way it might be a good idea to go with a Page Action crowner instead of a Single Proposition one.

Here goes.

I think we're good to call it.