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Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 10:55:20 AM
Lost in Space
We ran a Kickstarter back when the new admins took over the site. I don't recall how many of the promises have been kept so far. Just patching up the existing code took a lot more work than anyone thought.
Selling badges ended up being more trouble than it was worth as fees ate a good chunk of the revenue, and direct donations also had issues because people would harass us by sending small amounts and then demanding refunds.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 5th 2022 at 7:54:29 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
If they had a new kickstarter or opened a patreon or something, I'd be happy to donate (and buy a badge and stuff). I'm already paying for ad-free reading, but that's more of a necessity than anything, and might not be necessary if the site could make money without ads. And I'd still pay for more stuff if it means the site gets money and I get fun perks, like a badge.
Edit: But if it's too much of a headache, I get it.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 5th 2022 at 7:58:32 AM
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Lost in Space
The ad-free subscriptions definitely help, but again we are not privy to the finances.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Well, it's reassuring to be told by a mod that this site isn't just for profit at least.
I suppose another way to help would be to compile info about the site's structure and redevelop it, then provide it to the admins.
A procrastination in of itself
What if the admins hired a staff therapist so you all had a professional to help with the stress that comes with moderating this mess? 
waves hand Ahem...
Speaking of developers, I'd also like to point out that I know PHP... but it would probably break child labor laws if I applied/volunteered now, so I'll wait a little while. 
As for hiring devs, I think someone posted about that three-ish years ago? The company that owns TV Tropes did get merged in July 2021, so that may have had something to do with it.
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Announced by the guy who starred in Echo Chamber nonetheless.
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Me, I wouldn't mind if we expected that new developers be acquainted with TV Tropes policies and processes.
Problems like the cutlist "challenge" button sound like the developers that wrote that code weren't familiar with its purpose and thus ended up writing an inappropriate functionality.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Veteran Editor IV
Yeah... They should probably have a procedure manual written by mods as to what is expected and why... I'm pretty sure sites for things like Thunderbird or Android have some kind of manual for developers (I know they have an accessibility section).
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
Eddie was the one who wrote it (challenge.php) all the way back in 2008, so it must have been lost in translation over the years.
Redmess
Is Eddie still available to ask?
Optimism is a duty.![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Disasturbator
He's retired guys
New theme music also a box
He occasionally edits and posts, but I don't know if asking entails a follow up question to do something about it, or just a "what did you do" type question.
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I'm a bit late in saying this, but his records say he hasn't posted since 2020, though he did edit a couple of weeks ago.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 7th 2022 at 7:06:57 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
The Unknown
I'm curious on the specifics for the badges since it seems like easy money. Also I just really want to have my Herald badge.
Edited by Karxrida on Jan 8th 2022 at 1:30:14 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Cleanup specialist
So, yes, there seems to be a double standard when it comes to discussion of a certain person.
They get praised constantly, but when I try to criticize them, suddenly discussion of them isn't allowed on whatever thread I'm on.
Except this seems to go for the threads I'm told are relevant as well regardless, and everyone else is still able to talk about them.
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Disasturbator
Your post amounts to "Everyone does this one thing and when I do it I get punished!"
Well yes,you brought him up randomly and derailed the politics topic,you then proceeded to go further off topic.
Sometimes you need pay attention to the topic,it can go a long way,just saying.
Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 8th 2022 at 12:49:59 PM
New theme music also a box
Let me spell it out for you, ~Lily Lopunny: it's not that we don't allow criticism, but we don't allow off-topic bashing.
For the purposes of this example, let's say I really, really can't stand Ben Affleck; I think his acting sucks and his public image is dickish. But for me to go into a thread only tangentially related to Affleck, say... the DC movies thread, and say, "Omg, Ben Affleck sucks so bad as a person and an actor, guys, he should be banned from Hollywood forever," would be tremendously bad form, and if I would not be surprised if another mod came for me for it. But if I were to go in with at least something related to the thread, like, maybe, "I didn't like Ben Affleck's Batman; I thought his acting in Justice League was wooden", that would be more acceptable.
That isn't a double standard. It's just keeping with the goal of civil conversation, and barging into a thread insisting for the right to negatively talk about a person only tangentially related to the thread is not in keeping with that goal.
If you want to appeal your OTC suspension, you are welcome to do so in EB, but please don't passive-aggressively post here.
Edited by Synchronicity on Jan 8th 2022 at 6:50:47 AM
Lost in Space
As was pointed out to you on several occasions, notable public figures are relevant topics in as much as they concern the subject of the thread in question: politicians in politics threads, space people in the space thread, automakers in the cars threads, game-related people in video games topics, and so on. However, the discussion needs to be about how that person relates to the topic. "X is bad and I don't like them" is not a topic that we allow on the forums anywhere at any time.
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Edited by Fighteer on Jan 8th 2022 at 7:59:56 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lost in Space
As Lily Lopunny chose to passive-aggressively Rage Quit by PM'ing a bunch of people instead of appealing their suspension, they have now been bounced.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I must say you really got to work quickly on cutting their trope page.
Edited by jjjj2 on Jan 8th 2022 at 8:49:36 AM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Lost in Space
We don't usually do that, but given the nature of their rage quit, punitive measures were in order. If their "MHA theories" are so important, they can host them elsewhere.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Redmess
I assume this was about Musk's shiny new factory in China?
I'm starting to think that perhaps we do need an Elon Musk thread, just so we can provide an outlet for people to talk about him. It's really hard to ignore the controversies around him when he is such an important figure in space flight and car manufacture.
Optimism is a duty.
One option is to ask how much the admins want, maybe revive the badge shop or something, or just ask for their Paypal/Patreon. If everyone cashed in a dollar per person it would allow a developer to work for a week or so, and some of the most requested features border on immediate fixes.
Ok, I think I've run out of capitalism talk.
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