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SpinyNorman Imaginary Hedgehog from Luton Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Imaginary Hedgehog
#1: Jun 23rd 2020 at 5:02:12 AM

Demythification, surely (7th character is an "i")?

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#2: Jun 23rd 2020 at 7:41:49 AM

Yep, can confirm it's a spelling error, which is always a valid rename reason.

I support the suggested name.

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#3: Jun 23rd 2020 at 8:11:34 AM

Demythification is already a redirect, so let’s move all the wicks there (there’s also a bunch of redirects that I think are pointless).

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#4: Jun 23rd 2020 at 8:33:43 AM

156 wicks. This shouldn't be too hard to move. I think all the other redirects other than Demythification and Demythtified could probably be cut.

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#7: Jun 23rd 2020 at 10:29:01 PM

On the subject of redirects, Demythtified (with an extra T) is a redirect, but Demythified (spelled correctly) isn't. I feel that it would be a good idea to replace the former with the latter as one of the redirects (though I agree that some of the redirects probably aren't needed).

If it matters, the former has only one wick and 19 inbounds, so it could probably be cut if the latter is turned into a redirect.

Edit: Also, I copied and pasted the wick list for Main.Demythtification into a text editor (which I have configured to display line numbers) and the wick count for the main page is actually 105. The reason the Related page shows a higher number is because redirects' wick counts are added to the total; this same factor is why a freshly moved page with a small wick list will show a much higher wick count.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 23rd 2020 at 12:41:24 PM

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Estvyk Since: Apr, 2011
#8: Jun 24th 2020 at 12:53:47 AM

I guess the original intent was to make it sound like demystification, but demythification is already a valid real word.

Edited by Estvyk on Jun 24th 2020 at 12:53:54 PM

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9: Jun 24th 2020 at 1:12:40 AM

[up]It does sound like "demystification"... if it were said by Daffy Duck.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 24th 2020 at 3:14:52 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10: Jun 24th 2020 at 8:26:36 AM

Certainly rename to Demythification .

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#11: Jun 25th 2020 at 3:02:10 AM

[up]

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Estvyk Since: Apr, 2011
#12: Jun 25th 2020 at 6:31:35 AM

"Demythologization" is yet another synonym. Not saying it should be changed to that, just pointing it out.

Edited by Estvyk on Jun 25th 2020 at 6:32:15 AM

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#13: Jun 25th 2020 at 7:36:01 AM

[up]I still prefer Demythification, especially since it already has a decent amount of wicks, which would speed up the wick cleanup process.

That said, maybe we could turn Demythologization into a redirect.

Edit: Wow, I really screwed up the wording of the second line of this post when I originally posted it. I fixed it. (Either I was tired at the time, or I had just gotten out of bed and wasn't completely awake, hence the weird grammatical errors.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 27th 2020 at 8:27:38 AM

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#14: Jun 26th 2020 at 12:05:30 AM

[up]I think this trope has enough redirects as-is. Do we have enough consensus to move the page?

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#15: Jun 26th 2020 at 4:44:37 PM

[up]People (including me) were proposing cutting some of the redirects (mainly ones that aren't directly based on the trope name, so Demythtified wouldn't be cut, and I previously suggested making Demythified a redirect). Someone previously said that some of them are probably unnecessary.

Edit: jandn previously said they think most of the existing redirects are pointless, and I agree. You were also in favor of cutting them.

If it matters, most of those redirects don't have very many wicks (if any) and their inbound counts are generally low.

Edit: I cutlisted No Myth Take, Retroactive Realism, and Retroactively Realistic, which have no wicks and very few inbounds. Not sure about the others, since they have at least one wick each and their inbound counts are all in at least the triple digits.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 26th 2020 at 6:58:03 AM

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Jun 27th 2020 at 2:33:34 AM

I've accepted the cut requests, but please note that inbounds and wicks are not the only criteria that determine the usefulness of a redirect. You also need to consider how likely people are to search for a term.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#17: Jun 27th 2020 at 6:39:14 AM

[up]All right, I'll keep that in mind in the future.

Anyway, I don't know if the rename proposal has enough consensus yet, so I made a crowner:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/PageAction/Demythtification?open=all

Edit: I added a "This trope is under discussion on the Trope Repair Shop" message to the main Demythtification page, like what was added for Getting Crap Past the Radar's thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 27th 2020 at 8:52:38 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#18: Jun 30th 2020 at 3:44:21 PM

Nudging for votes.

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#19: Jul 14th 2020 at 6:33:46 AM

It's overdue for a call, so calling.

Do we have another suggestion for a name aside from Demythification?

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#21: Jul 20th 2020 at 6:51:05 PM

That could also work.

Anyways, going to set up an alt names crowner.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#22: Jul 31st 2020 at 9:15:40 PM

Nudging for votes.

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#23: Aug 3rd 2020 at 6:45:15 AM

Calling in favor of Demythification. I'll make the move.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#24: Aug 3rd 2020 at 6:49:08 AM

Including other redirects, only 77 wicks to clean out.

Edit: Moved two of the redirects to point to the new name, leaving 73.

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 3rd 2020 at 8:55:45 AM

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#25: Aug 3rd 2020 at 10:52:20 AM

Work wicks taken care of.

PageAction: Demythtification
27th Jun '20 6:35:36 AM

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What should be done with Demythtification?

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