Unclear Description: Everythings Better With Princesses

Well, that was fast. Can we call for Split now? 10:1 in favor?

I think people are assuming that Split includes disamb?

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I realized Rags to Royalty exists. Ascended Princess would be a subtrope of that. Worth splitting, or is it The Same, but More Specific? This would be the Cinderella Style variant listed on the page.

Edited by naturalironist on Sep 5th 2019 at 5:04:10 AM

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

It could work as a Subtrope or a sister trope, I suppose. In Rags to Royalty, the character is reinstated into the position after losing the title or gains it through marriage to a royal. Ascended Princess is for instances when the title is given willy-nilly, even when the character isn't given a kingdom to rule afterwards (like in the Dorothy example given @7 perhaps?).

Edited by Adept on Sep 6th 2019 at 1:59:57 AM

I'm going with Ascended Princess being a sister trope to Rags to Royalty instead of a subtrope if the "rags" part involves being poor, because I could see Ascended Princess examples starting out rich (and possibly spoiled) to begin with.

If Tropes Are Flexible means it just involves starting out as commoner, then subtrope would make more sense.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 6th 2019 at 6:05:14 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

So who's spawning the TLPs? If it should be me, then wait 'til tomorrow.

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I started a TLP draft for Princess Protagonist.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

Started a draft for Gratuitous Princess.

Edited by naturalironist on Sep 30th 2019 at 1:18:00 PM

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

On the TLP discussion for Gratuitous Princess, someone argued that the draft is the same as what Everythings Better With Princesses is supposed to be now. Thoughts?

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

Well, yes, but Gratuitous Princess is clearer about it, as you said in response already.

Edited by Malady on Oct 5th 2019 at 8:24:43 AM

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I think you covered the important stuff in your reply, but I posted my own $0.02 about how Everythings Better With Princesses is too broad and leads to Chairs examples.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

While digging around for TLP discard, I found a draft for Good Princess Evil Queen that can be worked on.

That one barely has any decent content. I think it's better to start from scratch.

Personally I think 'Gratuitous Princess' might be misconstrue as 'out of place princess'. Like a normal show set in umm... harlem! and its about a princess, sudden reveal someone is a princess, or suddenly there is a princess character in the show.

Like why is she there at all? The author liked princesses or she was made to pander.

Would that be a different trope worthy thing or nah?

Isn't that exactly what Gratuitous Princess trope is going to be about?

Princess Protagonist launched; would appreciate some help with crosswicking.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

I'm willing to take over the Good Princess, Evil Queen draft.

Good Princess, Evil Queen launched.

So, just Gratuitous Princess left to launch before we start dewicking?

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We may have one less wick to deal with now. Took it out while doing the cleanup for cephalopods, since it's a ZCE.

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The wick check is a good place to start. Especially wicks that's listed as a pothole to a character's name or the word princess can easily be removed without changing anything much.

Gratuitous Princess launched; working on crosswicking. As always, help appreciated. Should we go ahead and disambig Everythings Better With Princesses?

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

We could do another vote, now for disambig-ing between the new tropes, and the other option being to cut it, with a message like: "Was too vague to be a proper trope, see Princess Tropes".

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The current crowner talked about an Ascended Princess trope, what is that?

Edited by Malady on Nov 24th 2019 at 4:37:08 AM

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I'm not so sure now that it's not covered by other tropes and don't want that to hold up progress here, but I suppose I should still go make that draft.

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I've been removing wicks to Everythings Better With Princesses as I see them while crosswicking.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

Ascended Princess is for when a commoner becomes a princess. I haven't kept up with the TLP drafts (I rarely browse TLP), so I don't know if it would be redundant with any of them, but that's what was proposed.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 25th 2019 at 8:40:48 AM

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