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#2951: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:57:25 PM

That's not really relevant. What the fandom is convinced of isn't what is actually gonna happen in the series.

Oh, I am well aware. I was just bringing it up because of the LGBT Fanbase. I highly doubt Disney would let the show get away with a toxic lesbian triad.

In fact, that fan expectation might make it harder for them to write in any LGBT relationships for the three girls.

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#2952: Oct 6th 2021 at 10:08:18 PM

When it comes to Amphibia, I myself am speculating we may see a sort of confession thing from Marcy to Anne at the end. Like how we saw Cassandra say "I love you" to Rapunzel at the end of Tangled.

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#2953: Oct 6th 2021 at 10:25:27 PM

I'm trying not to expect too much, but I'm hard pressed for another explanation for someone blushing at their bestie geeking out over the local architecture.

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#2954: Oct 7th 2021 at 7:40:11 AM

Another Moringmark. Really want to know how the original idea would have turned out.

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#2955: Oct 7th 2021 at 10:14:20 AM

I feel like the dialogue is a reference to something else.

Although I'm not sure how the concept could have possibly gotten here from there unless it would have been A Hell of a Time.

Edited by TwinBird on Oct 7th 2021 at 1:16:35 PM

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Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2956: Oct 7th 2021 at 11:44:00 AM

Man, I'm reminded if the original idea for Jimmy Two Shoes.

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#2957: Oct 7th 2021 at 11:52:40 AM

I think the Owl House was probably going for a more standard isekai thing with the Boiling Isles... Probably

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2958: Oct 7th 2021 at 2:09:27 PM

Sidenote, have you noticed how many shows had the concept phase of "the show is about afterlife" only to change it to another world.

Like... Is there any western cartoon show set in afterlife that DIDN'T backdown from that premise? xD

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#2959: Oct 7th 2021 at 2:41:06 PM

Over the garden wall, kinda?

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#2960: Oct 7th 2021 at 2:42:56 PM

All dogs go to heaven. The show at least.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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#2961: Oct 7th 2021 at 2:44:01 PM

Its probably because weird alternate dimensions are an easier sell then a freaky afterlife

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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#2962: Oct 7th 2021 at 4:05:14 PM

Plus, no way to come back as far as I can figure, and it's kind of a downer to start off with the Death of a Child, even if she's still enjoying herself somewhere else. Maybe if they had gone with Luz being Dead to Begin With, she'd have been older? At the very least I can't imagine they would have dwelled as much on her life beforehand, or maybe they would have made it worse; as things are, I don't want to think about Camila dealing with her child dying. Most other isekai that start with death seem to have some combination of the protagonist being grown, them being kind of an asshole that no one is really going to miss, or everyone else they knew being assholes who are best forgotten.

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#2963: Oct 7th 2021 at 4:08:42 PM

Ironically a trend in isekai stories is Reincarnate in Another World which basically makes the isekai tantamount to an afterlife, not that this ups the chances of suits letting Luz have a fateful meeting with truck-kun.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Oct 7th 2021 at 4:08:53 AM

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#2964: Oct 8th 2021 at 10:32:30 AM

@Bornstellar

Glad I'm not the only one. That show was one of my favorites back in 2009, and it actually pulled me back into cartoons when I ended up rewatched it in 2014/15. The funny part regarding the change in original concept is that co-creator Edward Kay has confirmed that, supposedly like with The Owl House, it was Disney (who worked with the Canadian studios on the show through their old Jetix, later Disney XD) that asked the creators to lighten the setting because they wanted to be able to more easily distribute the show in America (Teletoon was apparently pretty chill about it as they wanted a more teen-oriented show, like some of its contemporaries at the time). That said, I feel like Dana Terrace was a lot more successful in fighting with the executives at Disney than Edward Kay and Sean Scott were, which is really obvious when you compare the second seasons of both shows with their first seasons.

And forgive me for going off tangent, but I feel like how dark the original JTS concept was has been a tad exaggerated. I know some people think the pilot was the better idea, but most of the concept sketches used to argue this were never actually meant to be used in the show, they were just exercise doodles to try and find the show's mood. Plus Edward Kay has confirmed that Beezy was in the concept from the start and is the exact same character we see in the final show - you can't really say a pilot was extremely dark compared to its final product when the resident fat dumb comic relief of the show was identical to his pilot self (same goes with Lucius retaining the same diminutive and cartoonish design).

But yeah, History Repeats in some ways I suppose.

Edited by MagnusForce on Oct 8th 2021 at 10:41:06 AM

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#2966: Oct 9th 2021 at 9:34:28 AM

Hah!

Another quality mark in the morning

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#2967: Oct 9th 2021 at 10:02:41 AM

Fanart of Hunter confronting Belos

In show I think Belos would roflstomp Hunter and snap his staff in two

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#2968: Oct 9th 2021 at 10:31:36 AM

[up][up][up] Belos and Kikimura hate that they have to acknowledge Luz this way and will look for a way to get her under thumb as soon as they could.

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#2969: Oct 10th 2021 at 1:42:19 AM

Okay, so hang on, what exactly is left? Because I remember when I first caught up, which was... really?... a few days after "Yesterday's Lie," it had already been announced that the de facto six-episode "Season 3" would be the last, but also there were 11 episodes left in Season 2. Is that still the case, or have those been cut?

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#2970: Oct 10th 2021 at 1:56:15 AM

Season 2 is 21 episodes. We already aired 10 episodes, with the other 11 airing on a currently unknown date. Season 3 is made up of 3 specials that are 44 minutes each, which is the length of 6 regular episodes when counted in that way.

Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2971: Oct 10th 2021 at 9:16:06 AM

So, I guess we're already more than halfway through the series. I can't see how we won't be rushing through certain reveals (King's dad, Belo's plan and true identity/origin, Eda's curse), but considering how smoothly Lumity arrived, I guess we'll be seeing these things come up fast and be done smoothly as well.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2972: Oct 10th 2021 at 11:22:57 AM

What else needs to be done with Eda's curse? All we have is the mystery about who created the curse in the first place, but that could always remain a minor loose end.

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#2973: Oct 10th 2021 at 12:04:15 PM

At this point you've got the mystery of the curse's creator and removing the curse completely

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2974: Oct 10th 2021 at 12:07:54 PM

I highly doubt they'll remove the curse completely. The show has repeatedly emphasized that the curse is a part of Eda's life and she's accepted it. Plus, it'd be completely torpedoing the metaphor its supposed to represent.

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#2975: Oct 10th 2021 at 12:20:19 PM

I get that it's a metaphor,though the fact that it was deliberately inflicted on her (by her sister no less!) makes it a questionable metaphor to me

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