Needs Help: Cardboard Boxes

I am not comfortable with this page covering such a range. On one end we have cars bursting through cardboard boxes for effect and on the other end we have a character tipping over a bookshelf behind then while chased across a building.

I adopted the Chase-Scene Obstacle Course But honestly it looks about ready to go, it has enough examples and hats and the description is solid.

Are there any issues with it? If not, I will launch it next week.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 4th 2020 at 11:55:17 AM

We're still figuring out which pages are being assimilated into the draft, aren't we?

So, Let Me Get This Straight... The TLP draft Chase Scene Obstacle Course is going to replace Cardboard Boxes because the latter is a Zero-Context Example magnet. The draft is also a Super-Trope to the following tropes:

• Baby Carriage
• Chain-Link Fence
• Elevator Snare
• Excuse Me, Coming Through!
• Fruit Cart
• Road Block
• Sheet of Glass

Are any of the above sub-tropes plagued enough by zero-context examples to also be cut and assimilated?

Oh, missed that. I agree that they probably need to be assimilated but I feel that's beyond the scope of the thread since we are specifically tackling Cardboard Boxes. I think that we need to make a separate thread if we want to address the others as a group. Or change the name of this thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 4th 2020 at 12:04:55 PM

Yeah, that's the issue, the thread started to tackle something beyond its scope and I feel that's why it stagnated.

So now what? Do we start a Trope Repair Shop thread for each and every Sub-Trope of Chase Scene Obstacle Course asking if it should be cut and assimilated into that draft?

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Mar 5th 2020 at 2:05:36 AM

If necessary. But for now, this draft is getting too bogged down by other tropes.

Hold off on the draft and TRS those tropes as a group in another thread?

For this thread, we decided to cut Cardboard Boxes. So, maybe we can remove the wicks for that trope and cutlist it after.

I don't think they need to be merged. If it's a supertrope, which it seems to be IIRC, then the others don't have to be merged. I mean, when have we done that with supertropes.

In order to finish the TRS effort, I suggest we make it a more simple supertrope, with "cardboard boxes" being a generic, more-or-less bland example, and leave the trope open as a catch-all for new obstacle ideas. If someone tries to split "cardboard boxes" from the supertrope, we could cross that bridge when we get to it. The problem with the old Cardboard Boxes may or may not reappear. But for now I say we try to get this effort finished.

I'm not really sure why we would fuss over merging subtropes into the missing supertrope. Personally, I don't recall us generally doing that in TRS. We should just stay focused on Cardboard Boxes and Chase-Scene Obstacle Course.

Yeah, I would say that is for another thread.

Not sure what else the TLP needs before launch though

The problem is that Fruit Cart, Baby Carriage, and Sheet of Glass have the same exact problem as Cardboard Boxes (completely nonindicative, chairsy name) and same narrative role (minor obstacle sent flying in a chase scene). Might as well just take care of it now, otherwise it'll never get fixed.

Well the others can be done with their own threads or just one big thread later , while we work on finishing Cardboard Boxes for good. I don't see the point in holding back the TLP any longer.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 11th 2020 at 9:18:14 AM

I also don't see the point at stagnating this thread any longer. It stagnated once people started asking about the other tropes.

Same here.

For multiple tropes like this, we normally use projects threads, no? I think we could launch the trope in TLP at present, then cut CB and move wicks as appropriate, then start a "Chase scene obstacle" thread in projects. Then these tropes can be discussed as to whether they are subtropes in their own right or if they need to be merged...

So we can close this thread finally, which is not about those other tropes.

Sounds good to me.

Chase-Scene Obstacle Course has been launched and crosswicked. So, now Cardboard Boxes can finally be de-wicked.

Wicks are done. Now cutlisting Cardboard Boxes and it's quotes page.

Would the projects thread for the other tropes would go in long term projects or short term projects?

But yeah, in any case this can be closed.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 12:41:15 PM