With Word of God stating he wants to take a break from Danganronpa for a while, and less chance of revisiting the Hope's Peak Saga now that we're in another canon altogether, no news of the next game in the series for now and YMMV (DR 3 ruining her as a villain and a character, made evident in the Pantheon pages where she was mocked by the King of All Cosmos and refused to be let in Trollkaiger, even mentioned how she's become a Base-Breaking Character, despite the Trope Pantheons stating that mention of fan reception isn't allowed), I figured that she needs to be thrown at least one or two bones. But yeah, characters like her, those in the Trollkaiger and the Liebertarians seem fun to write about, as some of there are personally few of my most favorite villains in fiction.

Enough of me wanking out, though. Since visiting the Trope Pantheon wordpress, I noticed a lack of Trollkaiger/Liebertarian presence in the Tales, and I thought about a Story Arc where a combined coalition of the two (plus some GUAE members) strives to bring about the Biggest, Most Awful, Event in Pantheon History. While Junko might not or won't be able to defeat Terumi, at least she should be given another chance to prove herself as a Hope Crusher after the wet fart that was the brainwashing anime.

What happened to that Grand Disappearance tale, though?

edited 29th Jan '18 12:13:43 AM by SundownLiterati

And Terumi was made into Pantheon's punching bag before CP was released with multiple implications of Always a Bigger Fish being thrown around until it was decided it was getting out of hand. The whole thing with Junko in that light is rather stupid since we already went through this with another character.

So, what should be done with Junko? I've been thinking that if Grand Disappearance is ever to be rewritten, she'd probably bag some of the artifacts for herself to kickstart another Tragedy.

There's a reason why I moved her to the Liebertarians; I'd say that she might be the middleman between them and the Trollkaiger,

On another note, can non-ascended characters appear in Pantheon Tales?

Speaking of Mukuro, honestly, if she gets ascend in the pantheon, she will get her revenge against her ungrateful sister for killing her, at least that's what I believed.

Also about Junko and Tsumugi's alliance, yes they wil be allies in the fic but they will appear in a separate story arcs.

And one more thing, non-ascended characters are not allowed to appear in the story.

edited 29th Jan '18 6:46:41 AM by n3xus

On the contrary, non-ascended characters have appeared in the story. I will list a few examples:

Examples:

• Pre-Upheaval had Yosuke, Chie, and the other un-ascended members (Narukami, Yukiko, and Kanji were the ascended IT members at the time) of the Investigation Team.
• The Great Upheaval had Mastema (This is to be expected of YHVH's group.).
• Muse Hysteria had Tachyon.
• Diamond Adventure had Errol (Renegade for Life).
• Reformation of Law had The Man with a beard with no hair and the Woman with hair But no Beard.

So yes, non-ascended characters can appear in stories, but we rather limit our use of them.

@literati: Grand Disappearance was taken out because it wasn't discussed thoroughly. What was the Grand Disappearance even about anyway?

And secondly concerning your argument with TPPR about the whole Terumi and Junko ordeal, You expect Terumi to get blindsided by something Junko cooked up? It's a long shot, but he'll play unconscious. Then again, you did say she can temporarily take over.

edited 16th Feb '18 6:06:22 AM by HotmanX32

IIRC, it was about the disappearance of some artifacts from the Vault in which the Trollkaiger is responsible for. waybackmachine link: https://web.archive.org/web/20160818034416/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/GrandDisappearance

Looks like I didn't know that.

How would the rest of Trollkaiger react to Junko being the leader, though?

Since she became unpopular in the Pantheon and the DR fanbase because of DR 3 - but the latter's irrelevant - and will likely stay that way unless we get another game set in the Hope's Peak Saga, I guess she'll be mocked by Bern, Nui and the rest. Izaya, on the other hand, would probably like this change of pace, but would secretly work behind her back.

To this day, I wonder how no one thought of adding Junko and Monokuma to the GUAE team where they truly belong - the Liebertarian Movement - instead of the Trollkaiger. I guess this was before the disappointing reveals of Despair Arc, which turned her into a pathetic villain who suffered Badass Decay in the eyes of many who can't even troll a class of students into despair without brainwashing anime.

Well, I was asking for input since I'm kinda curious what are your ideas for Junko's relations with the Trollkaiger and the rest of the GUAE/Pantheon after the reveals of DR 3 and NDRV 3.

edited 30th Jan '18 12:48:28 AM by SundownLiterati

How should I know? You're the one who suggested it.

I don't have any ideas for Junko, as I don't know jackshit about Dangan Ronpa.

Sundown Literati: The second coming of Magnum 12.

edited 30th Jan '18 7:08:01 AM by HotmanX32

New guy here, who was/is Magnum 12?

Having a new announcement to make: Akio Ohtori will be in Rider Taisen as the user for Kamen Rider Caucasus due to the fact that both of them tends to hold their roses in their respective appearances.

TL;DR: I think that fan reception of a character is completely irrelevant with the character in question, and shouldn't factor into what happens to them in the Pantheon. I understand that more than a few were disappointed with Junko's portrayal in the DR 3 anime (I am, too, and she's actually one of my most fave characters in the franchsie), which did result in her Humiliation Conga I mentioned earlier. The problem, though ,is that she's become pathetic in the Pantheon; barred from the Trollkaiger forever, incapable of turning anybody into despair, etc. While Terumi had CP and CF to break him out of his slump, I'm afraid that Junko's story, and by extension, the Hope's Peak Saga's, is complete and probably will never be revisited again.

I'm not asking for contributors or writers to be lenient to her, of course not, but at least she should be given a chance in the Tales themselves (personally, I'd think it'd be better for the establishment of allies/enemies/etc. to be done on the stories, rather than jam it all on a profile. Sure, the profiles can provide flavor, but the rest can be explored in a Tale-like format, but I digress) to at least provide a chance to be competent again. If she won't have it in main canon, then Pantheon Tales is actually a very good starting point for it.

P.S. Funnily enough, nobody mentioned how she broke the Guinness Gamer's Edition for Most Popular Video Game Character for Cosplay, but her using brainwashing anime, having Mukuro do all the dirty work, and murdering Chiaki is a Never Live It Down moment that resulted in her base-breaking status that just had to be mentioned. Not that the former should be mentioned as well, but I just find this tidbit quite hilarious, actually.

edited 30th Jan '18 9:34:41 PM by SundownLiterati

...Maybe because the world record tidbit was minor, and meanwhile the other facts actually have to do with the game series and are more likely to be picked up on?

You are looking WAY too deep into this; this is just a fictional place where fictional characters are ascended as fictional gods to muck around in. There's no hidden agenda here from any of us, we're just here to have fun.

...yeah, I really ought to take this kind of stuff a bit less seriously. Besides, she'd get a despair-fueled high from all this stuff happening to her.

Talking about my Story Arc, The Biggest, Most Awful Event in Pantheon History, who do you think can be her allies aside from the Liebertarians? And yes, one Trollkaiger member's gonna get taken out of commission whose spot will forcefully get taken over by Junko, at least so she can partly recover from the decay she experienced thanks to DR 3. Not saying she's gonna be a full-time member, since the KOAC's humiliation of Junko and the reveals of Despair Arc are permanent black marks against her, but at least she can prove herself to be a cruel Troll like the rest.

If others can have fun in the Pantheon, after all, why can't I? Sorry for my 2-page ramblings; this things pertaining to her and her portrayal in Despair Arc is still quite a sore spot for me.

edited 1st Feb '18 7:37:10 AM by SundownLiterati

If you don't stop desperately rambling about putting Junko in a story, I will relieve you of your editor privileges on Wordpress. Am I clear?

Everyone has their sore spots, but some took it in stride. You know who you are. You have my respect.

edited 1st Feb '18 10:16:27 AM by HotmanX32

Yeah, I'm sorry that I rambled for too much, so yeah, clear.

(Decided to move this into the main topic)

edited 8th Feb '18 7:44:40 AM by ChrisX

Quick announcement: I'm going to scrap all the Wizardriver potential users in the upcoming Rider Taisen fic. The reason I'm doing this is to avoid any form of Asspulls regarding on characters that suddenly gains a inner Phantoms within them. Any thoughts?

edited 18th Feb '18 9:55:36 PM by n3xus

Come on now. We all have our inner demons ;)

I'm working as a contributor for n3xus' Rider Taisen tales, coming up with various ideas for plot progression and even some of the Rider ideas (I brought up the idea of having Akio Ohtori as KR Caucasus to n3xus originally).

Another Rider idea I'm suggesting to him as a possibility is "Speed of Sound" Sonic for Kamen Rider Fuma. Fuma is a ninja-themed Kamen Rider and SOS Sonic is a ninja. I'm aware of the redundancy present (ninja transforms into a ninja-themed Kamen Rider), especially since he has Department of Redundancy Department as his title. Is this alright or could there be a different ninja to be KR Fuma?

I approve. But i doubt he will get involved in anything major unless a worthy rivals shows up. Or Saitama is involved.

This is just a few suggestions.

Who's working on Kibou Go Formation?

My ideas for the Kibou Go! Arc:

• Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst: The Kibou Go! finds itself in conflict with extremists in the GUAG, believing that merely espousing platitudes is insufficient. Meanwhile, old and new allies/enemies seek to advance their agendas whcih may or may not benefit the Hope Bringers.

• The Biggest, Most Awful, Most Tragic Event in Pantheon History: A wave of death and despair, presumably created from previous conflicts, threatens to spread throughout the Pantheon and envelop it whole! Can the Kibou Go halt it?

edited 20th Feb '18 6:23:07 AM by SundownLiterati

To answer your question, presumably no one. It was started by a banned user.

Meanwhile, I guess Homura is out of the picture for now.

I don't wanna include Homura Akemi in RT as well because if I do, it's an Ass Pull. But I can still include Crimson Squad Homura in the story cuz she can still hold herself without any rider power sets thanks to her own power ups.

edited 20th Feb '18 6:09:07 PM by n3xus