Disney's Live-Action Thread

Wow, you don't need to be so aggressive.

I'll admit I like the Broadway versions of "Friend Like Me" and "Prince Ali" because they have the better music renditions (big band jazz).

Imo, "One Jump Ahead" is - just like "Belle" - a number that was practically made for a Broadway stage and is actually a lot better on Broadway than in any of the other mediums it appear in. There was always at least one number like that in the 90's Disney movies, because of the heavy Broadway influence in the design of that period's musical numbers.

Yeah, this. The people prone to going They Changed It, So It Sucks and believing that any difference between mediums is sign of flawed production are not the people actually making the films or Broadway productions.

To the contrary, part of adapting a story to another medium - be it the film or the stage - is in the ability to creatively find ways to adapt things while also accounting for new ways to do things that can't be easily done in that new medium.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 22nd 2021 at 1:52:39 AM

Ehh, it still lacks the energy the song had. Also it is followed up by fucking jam jokes.

I did like the film’s Prince Ali. Conversely, One Jump Ahead bored me in live-action. Which is weird because Ritchie is known for kinetic direction that should’ve made the latter pop. So it’s really a combination of “who makes it” and “what can we do in the medium”.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 23rd 2021 at 8:35:14 AM

I'd say that other songs from the time that were screaming "this works just as good on a stage" would include "Hellfire," "I Just Can't Wait to Be King," "Be Prepared," etc.

Yeah, the renaissance had some of the slappiest songs. Hellfire is wonderful on stage and Patrick Page rules in general.

Unironically, his Frollo was a good 'humanized villain' rendition too. Or like, a good re-humanization, since the movie version got a good dollop of Adaptational Villainy.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 23rd 2021 at 4:52:02 AM

I think I'd agree with One Jump Ahead being the weakest song in the live action remake. I think it had to do with the decision to slow down the pacing as much as they did (which affected the music just as much as the action), and the fact that they couldn't do an awful lot of variety with the set they were on leading to a lot of of its moments more or less being the same (iirc, the Broadway version gets around the variety issue by emphasizing it more as a Crowd Song).

Every time I watch it, I think they probably would have gotten more out of the resources they had if they made it The Oner.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 24th 2021 at 10:35:49 AM

Yeah, One Jump Ahead is very active and dynamic in the animated version. Also that zoomed out "STILL I THINK HE'S RATHER TASTY" kinda loses the flair.

I think the live action version of the moment might have been a reference to the Broadway version. In the live film, the woman who sings it is clearly friends with Aladdin, but there's no further explanation. In the play, she's a supporting character in the first act.

Rewatched TRON: Legacy so I could have a good depression cri at Daft Punk's break-up. I didn't appreciate it enough when it first came out, but the soundtrack is first-class.

The soundtrack of Legacy does so much in filling out the world in union with the visuals. "Recognizer" is awe-inspiring, "Outlands" active yet mysterious, "Solar Sailor" mournful yet comforting, and "End of the Line" perfect for a cyberpunk city or club.

Did they break up or retire? There's a big difference and, I mean, they've been in the industry for decades now. Retiring is totally earned by now in my opinion.

They called it quits according to this article.

Is Disney really trying to give Cruella De Ville the sympathetic screwed over treatment like Maleficent or the Wicked Witch of the West?

Why do so many people assume she'll be treated that way in the movie? The trailer depicts her as a Card-Carrying Villain.

Well it's because cruella is one of the few Disney villains who is near never humanised in spin off works even stuff like Twisted: The Untold Story of a Royal Vizier and Once Upon a Time which did more sympatheticish portrayals of classic Disney villains still keep her psychopath.

And Thats because fans like her for being over the top and fun. It's why the idea of "fixing" what's not actually broken hasn't gone down well with people.

If anything this is more evidence she won't be woobiefied.

Even if the movie is average, I really hope they get this woman is just awful to her core.

Part of the reason that Maleficent was so well liked was because of how proudly evil she was, yet look how that turned out.

Again, the trailer really does not look like it will go that route. With Maleficent, it was obvious from the get go they'd give her the Adaptational Heroism treatment.

If I recalled correctly, the Maleficient trailers tried to sell her as being like classic Maleficient, and showed zero indications of Adaptational Heroism. That's why people are being wary of Cruella. Trailers Always Lie after all.

I watched the first trailer for Maleficent again and unfortunately this appears to be true.

I watched this trailer after reading this comment and I disagree. Both women are portrayed as menacing, but the Maleficent trailer is a more straightforward Perspective Flip: it shows you the traditional good royals vs. evil fairy, then tells you the story you know is a lie and the royals wronged Maleficent in some way, so you are more inclined to sympathize with her and think "okay, maybe she's exactly not the big Evil Fairy Villain Mc Dragon I know her as". Perhaps the crucial difference IMO is from the earlierst teasers Maleficent is implied to have some positive relationship with Aurora, the franchise cornerstone and Princess Classic, and that is consistent throughout the marketing.

In Cruella's trailer, all you get is that she was wronged in some way and then reacted very negatively (and hammily) to it.

Edited by Synchronicity on Mar 10th 2021 at 10:44:41 AM

I kinda miss Disney making original live action stuff that aren't remakes. The most recent one that isn't tied to a franchise is Saving Mr. Banks right? It's technically only tangentially related to Mary Poppins. Also is their Touchstone Pictures label gone?