Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Re Lightbulbs For A Face: Sending back to YKTTW works as well. From the looks of it, some had noted that it Needs A Better Title during YKTTW stage, but s/he was ignored. As was the mod request for getting rid of or fleshing out the Zero Context Examples.
edited 9th Feb '13 2:05:09 PM by MarqFJA
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Captain of USS Bajor
Cerberus Logic seems to have been launched before the YKTTW discussion on it was even completely sure what it meant.
- Strike one: nonsensical name with horrific case of Trope-Namer Syndrome.
- Strike two: no examples on trope page.
- Strike three: zero hats.
"In distress", my ass.
It breaks the baseball analogy, but snowclones (in this case, of Cerebus Retcon and/or Cerebus Syndrome via misspelling of "Cerebus") are discouraged as well.
edited 9th Feb '13 8:35:31 PM by Nohbody
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Send author a PM about procedure here, then torch it.
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Captain of USS Bajor
Cutlisted the page and PM'ed the OP, but I think the trope might be salvageable (near as I can tell, the intended meaning is "hero who only got involved because he was attacked personally" or something to that effect). Here's the YKTTW archive if you want to take a look.
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Isn't that Heroic Neutral?
Nocturna, this thread does renames if they're done in YKTTW. When we send tropes back to YKTTW we are not required to keep the names they were mislaunched with.
Do not open new TRS to rename badly launched tropes. They're new enough that better names do not need their own thread. Please keep things here.
As such, I'm leaving Lightbulbs For A Face with you to handle.
edited 9th Feb '13 11:35:47 PM by shimaspawn
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Thank you for the clarification, shima. I apologize for opening that TRS unnecessarily, in any case.
edited 10th Feb '13 7:07:07 AM by MarqFJA
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I don't feel this needs an apology. TRS rules aren't codified anywhere for now, and the only attempt here hasn't had official approval yet.
Ah, okay. It's just that the TRS thread was already opened, so I assumed that meant it had moved out of this thread's proper authority. I'll keep that in mind for the future, though. (Also, to me at least, "rename (without return to YKTTW)" and "back to YKTTW (where it might get a rename as part of the further work on it)" are separate concepts.)
Anyone have any suggestions for a new name for Lightbulbs For A Face? I recall seeing Lightbulb Eyes proposed in either the YKTTW or the TRS thread.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
I'd suggest Glowing Eyes, Shadowed Face, personally.
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@Nohbody: Actually, it's not a snowclone. It's a reference to an organization called Cerberus from Mass Effect... although the guy who made the YKTTW doesn't even know that.
... it was a hilariously bad YKTTW.
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Blue-Collar Warlock. Just cutlisted, by the way.
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Lost in Space
I think that is a trope, but it needs more examples and a description that doesn't talk so much about "This isn't that trope".
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Lost in Space
If someone wants to schlep it into YKTTW before it gets cut, be my guest.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lost in Space
Another one: Ishida Mitsunari. If this guy is actually a common character in period works, then he belongs in Useful Notes.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
That one looks like Useful Notes material to me.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Lost in Space
"In distress", my ass.
Besides Cutlist fodder? 
Looks like a character sheet for someone who doesn't deserve one, at a glance. (Not familiar with Lovecraft's writings, so no comment on the accuracy of what's given.)
edited 12th Feb '13 7:10:49 AM by Nohbody
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Just to be sure, we are allowed to cutlist Lightbulbs For A Face for re-YKTTWing, right?
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Lost in Space
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Done. Waiting for a Cut Master now.
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Re: Lightbulb Face: Also kind of annoyed that the guy never bothered to add my Loom example to the text, or offer an explanation as to why it wouldn't count. :S
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Conceive and Kill is in TRS, which means it's out of this thread's jurisdiction. (Although, for the record, I don't support expanding Black Widow, because its current definition is what the term actually means.)
Re: Lightbulbs For A Face: This thread doesn't do renames, just "(back) to YKTTW" or "cut".