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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Aug 29th 2012 at 3:37:51 AM

The page Beary Funny appears to be confused about which trope it is. The title and page image suggest it's about funny bears; the description suggests it's about bears who eat a lot; and the examples on the page boil down to an arbitrary list of bears in fiction.

I suggest we define this page as "comedic bears", and split off a different page for "friendly bears". We already have a trope for creatures that eat a lot, I don't see how that needs a subpage specific to bears. The page has 57 wicks, 27 inbounds.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#2: Aug 29th 2012 at 3:40:36 AM

{Noun + pun = title] -> Every appearance of a noun in fiction.

Jolly Bear?

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Ponyboy64 Since: Aug, 2012
#4: Aug 29th 2012 at 8:48:36 AM

Backing the split suggestion. Funny does not imply friendly, and friendly does not imply funny.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#5: Aug 29th 2012 at 8:58:11 AM

Also in agreement with the split, where Beary Funny would refer to funny bears, with another trope formed in relation to friendly bears. I could suggest The Gentle Ben, but it could possibly fall under Trope Namer Syndrome, because although the book had been part of my grade school curriculum, not everybody would know about it.

edited 29th Aug '12 9:06:59 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#6: Aug 29th 2012 at 2:42:32 PM

^Case in point: I had no idea what you were talking about.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Aug 29th 2012 at 3:22:55 PM

[up][up] Who?

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Aug 30th 2012 at 10:44:29 AM

[up][up][up]Let's not name a trope after a character. That doesn't usually end well.

edited 30th Aug '12 10:44:43 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#9: Aug 31st 2012 at 12:01:26 PM

Yeah, that kind of was a throwaway post, but some name has got to work for the "friendly bear" trope...

Beary Friendly? Overgrown Teddy Bear?

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#11: Aug 31st 2012 at 3:39:56 PM

Friendly Bear seems straight and to the point, and it fits in with similar tropes.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12: Aug 31st 2012 at 3:45:14 PM

I like Beary Friendly.

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#13: Aug 31st 2012 at 3:47:39 PM

Beary Friendly sounds clear enough to disincentivize Zero Context Examples.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#15: Oct 11th 2012 at 12:21:22 PM

Bumping. I still think Beary Friendly would be a good one. I'll start a YKTTW for this if at the end this is what we're going to do.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#16: Nov 1st 2012 at 5:47:02 AM

Stable crowner. Called.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#17: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:22:20 AM

Awesome. Going to start the YKTTW now.

And here it is

edited 1st Nov '12 10:37:02 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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#18: Nov 1st 2012 at 11:26:40 AM

[up] Mentioned it in the YKTTW, mentioning it here. Why are we YKTTW this? It would be nothing but a list of Aversion of another trope. That's why we cut Heroically Aligned Reptile because it was just a list of Aversion of Reptiles Are Abhorrent.

Why would it be cool for bears but not for reptiles?

edited 1st Nov '12 11:28:25 AM by CobraPrime

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#19: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:25:26 PM

I think there's actual existing associations with "heroic bear", though.

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#20: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:54:11 PM

Bears, unlike lizards, are so commonly made friendly characters that it's really misleading to call a friendly bear an aversion of another trope. Reptiles, on the other hand, are so commonly villainous that making a friendly one is an aversion.

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#21: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:12:02 AM

I just now bumped the YKTTW linked above, so might as well bump this as well so I can do the crosswicking of the fixed trope for The Whiteboard.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#22: Feb 25th 2013 at 6:47:03 PM

The YKTTW still needs one more hat. Anybody got a suggestion for improvement?

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#23: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:54:26 PM

I've seen perfectly good tropes launch with fewer than five hats. It's more a guideline than a rule.

EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#24: Mar 7th 2013 at 12:17:10 PM

Mulled it over a while, and decided to launch it. Sorting wicks for Beary Funny to a more appropriate place now.

EDIT: And I've looked through the wicks and sorted accordingly.

edited 7th Mar '13 12:54:58 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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10th Oct '12 12:16:47 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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