Franchise Namespace

We have a lot of multimedia franchises on the wiki. The Lord Of The Rings, Harry Potter, Transformers, and always the question with namespacing is, where do we put that main index page.

Up until now a lot of them have been hanging around in the main or bumbling around in search of a better solution.

Many times a Franchise Namespace has been proposed to hold them.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:03:09 PM by Jicragg

If the set of works need a series disambiguation page I think. Like Pretty Cure, Nanoha, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Shin Megami Tensei or Gundam pages these are pretty much Super-Trope s to their respective works pages.

(right now many of these are missing other medium works pages in their indexes... like Persona 4 The Animation under Shin Megami Tensei and such)

Those Super-Trope pages should go into a Franchise namespace and indexed as an index instead of just placed wherever. With a Franchise index listing all of these. Any actual work page connected to it would still go in the medium it is.

edited 30th Mar '12 7:41:08 AM by Raso

Yep. Basically that. A Franchise page is a page that connects multiple works pages. If they don't connect multiple works pages, they aren't a franchise.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:03:32 PM by Jicragg

I would also like to kill the folders on some of these pages... Really the stuff inside them is the whole point to these pages and people are just hiding it.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:03:00 PM by Jicragg

Yes it would, there will still be a redirect from it to the franchise page so it won't be a massive priority.

So in case this decided, every work article that conects to multiple work pages would go to Franchise/? I'm asking this because I started fixing the namespace of the Ace Attorney wicks, and that article has a disambiguation to the 3 subseries; in case this passes, would that article have its namespace changed?

How would this apply to franchises that are mainly a single medium? Like say, Power Rangers.

Or Back To The Future. Right now, the main page is a disambiguation - even though, to the best of my knowledge, there's no work called Back To The Future that isn't connected to the Zemeckis/Gale movie trilogy.

Also, what about the various anime/manga stuff?

To my understanding, those are the exact sort of things the Franchise namespace is supposed to cover, yes.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:02:05 PM by Jicragg

It's entirely fine to use a Main page as a disambiguation for a franchise (I think). It just has to be a disambiguation, not the "primary article" for said franchise. The primary article for Back To The Future should be the Film page, because that's what it started as.

edited 30th Mar '12 12:15:18 PM by Fighteer

I still wonder about the likes of Super Mario Bros, Sonic The Hedgehog and The Legend Of Zelda in this regard. They all did get their start as video games and all of them did have Western Animation tie-ins and (in the case of the first two franchises I've mentioned) some other mediums, but the video games still immediately come to mind when it comes to these franchises.

edited 30th Mar '12 12:42:56 PM by EarlOfSandvich

I think that if the franchise is huge in multiple medias (such as Harry Potter, Transformers, Batman and Pokemon) it should go to the franchise namespace, but for stuff with adaptations that are still better known in their original media (like those Earl mentioned) should just stay in their namespaces.

edited 30th Mar '12 1:00:52 PM by Elbruno

I don't see a problem with having them on main. Main is where we put indexes. And they're indexes.

@Earl: There are some Zelda mangas too.

I'm not really into Harry Potter - but, from what I understand, it was a book series first and foremost. Also, just about everyone who's seen the film adaptations know that the book series exist - so there's no Adaptation Displacement involved. Also, in the Harry Potter fanfic community, book-verse fics tend to given seniority over over the movie-verse fics. I know that Harry's eye colour (the movies differ from the books) is definitely a big deal in that community. I've read enough rants to deduct that.

Currently, the policy is that whichever medium the work came out first is the namespace the work gets moved to - but it can be very confusing in cases of Adaptation Displacement or simultaneous releases.

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edited 23rd Jul '17 1:57:28 PM by Jicragg

I think we desperately need a Franchise/ namespace. I haven't see any arguments against it; all the discussion here has been about when using it would and wouldn't be appropriate. I think we should create the new namespace ASAP.

Crowner hooked.

Not sure on "multimedia" in the crowner I think it should be any and all the work Supertrope type work pages.

I don't really see an issue with having this sort of page in Main. They would basically act as indexes wherever they are.