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RainehDaze Figure of Hourai from Scotland (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#329951: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:11:06 PM

Yeah, I wasn't joking when I said that.

The moderator needs to be able to moderate. And since you can't just go up and slap the president in the face to stun him into silence, that means cutting the mic. Obviously it goes both ways, but if Trump gets silenced then I expect it's less likely anyone else talking to him will immediately respond.

If nothing else because this way Biden might be able to actually finish a sentence when it's supposed to be a discussion section.

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#329952: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:16:29 PM

Make a huge timer.

Set the time for the amount they are allowed to debate.

Start the timer.

Whenever one candidate gets interrupted, pause the timer, and then start it again once the interrupter shuts up and the actual candidate talks again.

Make the timer big so Trump can still see it, even without his glasses.

And if Trump goes off on an insane rambling, cut the mic.

That would be a start.

Edited by TitanJump on Sep 29th 2020 at 6:17:05 PM

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#329954: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:25:58 PM

I called my grandmother, who is intensely pro-Trump beyond all reason, after the debate to discuss how we thought it went, and even she thought Biden did a better job tonight. No doubt, despite some bad-looking moments and the overall low quality of the debate Biden's off to a fairly good start.

Edited by ryanasaurus0077 on Sep 29th 2020 at 12:26:27 PM

Nerevarine Since: Mar, 2016
#329955: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:30:45 PM

One of the staff on 538 said this but I agree with it wholeheartedly: this whole thing would have been better if this was a Zoom call. I feel like even with a mic mute feature Trump would just shout louder in an in-person setting.

I suppose neither candidate won which is ultimately a win for Biden but I was still hoping for something to increase my enthusiasm for Biden. Something to increase my confidence he'll be a confident leader that's dedicated to fixing our broken country. As is the most I can say about him is he's not Trump. And outperforming an oversized toddler really isn't inspiring for the long term.

Which is still enough to make me vote for him, mind you. A pile of rocks could be running against Trump and I'd still crawl over a mile of broken glass to vote for it.

RainehDaze Figure of Hourai from Scotland (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#329956: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:37:28 PM

I thought he seemed dedicated to trying to fix things, as much as you can appear dedicated when Trump is impossible to shut up.

Maybe he should just take an air horn next time and use it whenever Trump interrupts him.

Edited by RainehDaze on Sep 29th 2020 at 5:37:45 PM

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#329957: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:39:33 PM

The old windbag. Give Trump the world's smallest mic, and he'll deafen half the country with it.

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#329958: Sep 29th 2020 at 9:57:41 PM

Early numbers say most people think Biden won the debate:

CNN: 60% - 28%

CBS: 48% - 41%

Data for Progress: 51% - 39%

And apparently Biden raised $4 million in one hour.

Edited by Parable on Sep 29th 2020 at 10:00:04 AM

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#329959: Sep 29th 2020 at 10:22:45 PM

The Biden campaign is already selling "Will you shut up, man" t-shirts. [awesome]

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329960: Sep 29th 2020 at 10:25:21 PM

I mean, "Isn't Trump" is enough.

I mean, we're reaching the point that George W. Bush may not have killed more people than Trump.

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#329961: Sep 29th 2020 at 10:30:17 PM

Depends how you split responsibility.

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#329962: Sep 29th 2020 at 10:43:38 PM

He's closing in on the Nazis and Imperial Japan if you separate American WW 2 dead by theater. Let that sink in.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#329963: Sep 29th 2020 at 11:04:39 PM

Politico: Intel chief releases Russian disinfo on Hillary Clinton that was rejected by bipartisan Senate panel

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified a Russian intelligence assessment that was previously rejected by Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee as having no factual basis, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

I can't believe they're still trying to bring up Hillary Clinton.

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#329964: Sep 29th 2020 at 11:18:37 PM

So, it seems like the debate was a trainwreck but if it helped anyone t was Biden. Not that this changes my opinion on debates, though.

I don't think that Trump is evil enough to match up with the actual Nazis anywhere soon, though.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#329965: Sep 29th 2020 at 11:26:32 PM

@Nereverine

Okay, real talk. What if anything could Biden have done, keeping in mind he's debating a complete maniac, to give you that confidence and r enthusiasm.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329966: Sep 29th 2020 at 11:27:46 PM

I don't think that Trump is evil enough to match up with the actual Nazis anywhere soon, though.

I used to think he'd never be as bad as Bush but he's sterilizing women in concentration camps.

I can't believe they're still trying to bring up Hillary Clinton.

"I want to steal your healthcare to give to billionaires" is a hard sell to go along with hating brown people.

They don't have anything else.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 29th 2020 at 11:28:47 AM

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#329968: Sep 29th 2020 at 11:54:55 PM

Here’s the big takeaway from the debate:

Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists, and not only did he refuse to do so, he told them to “stand back and stand by.”

You know, as if he is their leader.

That’s the takeaway.

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#329969: Sep 30th 2020 at 12:04:58 AM

"I don't think that Trump is evil enough to match up with the actual Nazis anywhere soon, though."

He would, if they paid him.

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#329970: Sep 30th 2020 at 12:06:45 AM

Trump's level of evil is a reflection of what makes him look best.

Whether you consider diminished responsibility in the case of narcissism to factor into moral judgements is a different matter.

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#329971: Sep 30th 2020 at 12:12:06 AM

No, the problem with comparing Trump to the Nazis is that his deeds just don't measure up. Trump's concentration camps see forced sterilization, Nazi concentration camps saw millions of people shot, gassed or starved to death and they dropped broad hints that much (if not most) of Eastern Europe's population would be next in line.

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#329972: Sep 30th 2020 at 12:17:50 AM

Mark Hamill tweeted that the debate was the worst thing he'd ever seen — and he's been in the Star Wars Holiday Special. [lol]

I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329973: Sep 30th 2020 at 12:26:24 AM

"I don't think that Trump is evil enough to match up with the actual Nazis anywhere soon, though."

He would, if they paid him.

Trump reminds me most of Fritz Kuhn who became the head of the American Nazi Party and promptly embezzled massive amounts of its funds to pay for his lavish lifestyle as well as multiple mistresses. When Fiorello La Guardia (yes, the one the airport is named for) wanted to destroy him for....well, being a Nazi in New York, he exposed this dreadful secret.

Kuhn defended it by saying as the Furher, he was allowed to do whatever the hell he wanted and anyone who disagreed wasn't a real Nazi.

And It Worked.

Because they were Nazis.

This explains Trumpism to me.

La Guardia's response was to just toss his ass in jail, though.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 30th 2020 at 12:27:32 PM

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#329974: Sep 30th 2020 at 1:32:47 AM

Trump courts whoever will vote for him, whoever will pay his debts. He courts nazis because they vote for him. There has never been a bottom. Now he's courting terrorists and conspiracy theorists like Qanon. Why does he court Qanon? Cause they like him.

If gassing half the US population got him reelected, trump would do it. Cause he's already fine with blue states dying of disaster and disease. Something he proactive tries to encourage, by the way. Rewarding red states and withholding aid to blue states.

It doesn't matter if trump does or does not believe. It's beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a fascist, out of convenience or out of ideology is something for historians to decide

Edited by devak on Sep 30th 2020 at 10:34:16 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329975: Sep 30th 2020 at 1:33:35 AM

He is genuinely evil.

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