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Floki actually is Loki
The show has a bit of magical realism going on, with Ragnar witnessing visions of Odin. Assuming he isn't just seeing things, that makes Loki's involvement possible. Floki is a mischievous person, and he is directly responsible for the battle between the vikings and englishmen in episode 3. He did that on purpose! Look at that face he makes after the Saxon are massacred! Floki also has a notable fascination with fire, and Loki is often identified as being the fire god in Norse Mythology.
  • When Rollo converts to Christianity, all the other vikings are either amused, confused, or unsure about it. Floki, however, is openly disdainful of the whole matter, spitting on the ritual and refusing to kneel when everyone else does. Possibly, as a norse god, he is offended by this new, encroaching religion.
  • Helga says Floki is always hungry, to which Floki says of "course". Remember the tale of Thor's Journey to Útgarða-Loki? The tale where Loki almost out-eats fire?
  • Gustaf Skarsgard did mention in an interview that, much in the way Ragnar believes himself to be a son of Odin, Floki believes himself to a descendant of Loki. This would make him half-brothers with a giant snake and a giant wolf.
    • On added note Loki is the son of Farbauti who is the son of Bergelmir who is brother to Baelthorn who is father to Bestla who is mother to Odin. If there is any truth to Ragnar and Floki being descended from those two then it would mean they are also distant cousins.

Floki actually is Odin
If his smirk after Rollo slaughters the Christians to affirm his allegiance is any indication, he may have counted on that happening. It could be his way of using him to strike out against this new faith. Odin is also the sender of rage in battle, after all. The only problem is that Floki has both eyes. Whenever Odin visits Midgard, he takes the guise of a one-eyed wanderer. Maybe his medical knowledge extended to replacing it?

Gyda will convert to Christianity
Bjorn will obviously follow in his father's footsteps. Depending on the show's timescale, this may result in Bjorn accompanying his parents on raids. Aethelstan, meanwhile, will stay with Gyda, and manage to convert her, assuming he doesn't lose his own faith.
  • Jossed, Gyda dies of the plague.

Athelstan will lose his faith
Possibly becoming an atheist, possibly becoming a pagan. Bonus points if Ragnar goes Christian at the same time. note 
  • Certainly by Trial, he expresses anger at God for the first time in his life, questions his circumstances, and expresses that he feels lonely (spiritually). If nothing else by that point, he's having a severe crisis of faith.
  • In Sacrifice, he takes part in the pagan festivities at Uppsala, and claims that he is no longer a Christian. However, he quickly has second thoughts about this when he learns that the only reason he was brought there was to be sacrificed. At this point, it looks like he could potentially go either way.
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  • In the second season, he finds himself greatly conflicted spiritually, and eventually comes to the conclusion that both Christianity and elements of Paganism resonate with him.
  • Eh, when all's said and done, partially confirmed and also jossed. He was born again in season 3.

If the show lasts for more than a few seasons, Ragnar and friends will discover America
This sounds like something that could happen when he's exhausted other areas to explore.
  • Now that a second season has been confirmed, Clive Standen (Rollo) has said that we may see many well-known figures from that time period, including Leif Ericson. If that turns out to be the case, then a journey to North America may not be out of the picture.
  • Partly jossed due to Ragnar and Torstein being dead.

Rollo will become an Olfhednar
He already displays berserker-like tendencies and is devoted to Odin as a war-god. He's supposed to end up ruler of Normandy and convert to Christianity, but this series already takes liberties with history so this could happen.
  • So far he has become christian, though he himself claims he wasn't serious about it.
  • In season 3 he finds and eats some unidentified mushrooms after a battle, stands up and promptly cuts the leg off of a sleeping captive for no reason at all, baffling the other vikings. Historically, the berserkers ate mushrooms to call forth their rages...
    • No, that's not a historical fact. It's an old theory, but there are no evidence at that berserkers actually consumed mushrooms to enter the berserker rage.
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    • All the same, Rollo seems to be hanging out with berserkers quite a bit though.

Lagertha didn't miscarry
Rather, the baby was born, but due to complications, his legs will be crippled or otherwise deformed. The child will grow up to be the show's version of Ivar the Boneless.
  • Jossed. Sacrifice shows that it was indeed a miscarriage, but it does seem likely that Aslaug will bear those children.

Ragnar will take Aslaug as his next wife, and all sons he has from hence will be from her.
She's confirmed to be in the next episode and will be a recurring character in season 2. I think it's obvious. She was one of his wives in the sagas.
  • She's already pregnant with their first child.

The series finale will show Ragnar's death
The final scene will have an adult Bjorn leading the Great Heathen Army against England. Anyone whose read the saga (and it has been around for maybe 7 or 8 centuries) already knows that it ends with Ragnar's death and his sons avenging him. Thus, it's an easy assumption that a show centeed on Ragnar will end this way.
  • Jossed, the series is continuing on without Ragnar.

That wanderer who gave Ragnar the sunboard and icelandic spear was actually Odin
He knows (he knows everything, he's Odin) that Ragnar is in for a life of blood and battle and this pleased him. So he decided to jolt things along and give Ragnar all he needed to start his legend.
  • Possibly Jossed. We get to meet him in season 3, and he is perhaps the least Odin-like out of all the potential "he's really Odin" candidates thus far in the series.

Floki and Athelstan will become close friends because of their shared spiritual natures
They'll still come into debates about their differing religions, but they'll respect each others beliefs and ways. Certainly both seem like the type to respect devotion.
  • Jossed. As of season 2, it's been four years and Floki still doesn't like Athelstan
  • Final nail in the coffin in season 3; Floki ultimately murders Athelstan.

In Season 2, Ragnar will be going up against Alfred the Great
Jossed. The Vikings will once again invade England, but this time they'll be opposed by King Egbert of Wessex.

Magnus Samuelsson will have a role
Why not? They already got Jauko Ahola.

Earl Haraldson's name is Harald

His father was already called Earl Harald, so they called him Earl Haraldson when he succeeded to differentiate between the two.

The Seer is a troll
He trolls all the characters into making decitions that leads to bloodbaths. Floki is in on it.

Athelstan will have a My God, What Have I Done? moment
While Athelstan has forged strong friendships with many of the Norsemen and assimilated into their culture, it doesn't change the fact that they are launching raids against the Saxons, and part of him will always be Saxon. While he seems to be an eager raider and wholehearted devotee of Odin, promotional materials for Season 2 portray him as much more conflicted. Wessex may not matter to him, but if the Vikings direct more raids against Northumbria, the devastation caused in his old homeland may bring Athelstan to a breaking point.
  • Confirmed.

Floki will turn traitor to kill both Athelstan and Rollo
Someone as devoted to his religion as him clearly wouldn't like Rollo's baptism even if it was a joke and he seems to take great delight Athelstan for being a Christian priest to the point of bullying him even if Athelstan says otherwise. Considering who Floki claims descent from, it is not that far off. He might get as far as Athelstan, provided his crucifixion isn't a dream, Floki will probably be killed by Rollo, since we know he'll live to become the first Duke of Normandy.
  • Well, y'know, 50% is still something.

Ragnar will kill Borg
Hey, he's already killed one Jarl, he can easily kill another. One of the later episodes this season is called 'Blood Eagle', so he may even carve out his lungs as well.
  • Confirmed. And it was awesome.

Ragnar is the distant ancestor of Jax Teller
Ragnar and Jax Teller from Sons of Anarchy share a lot of attributes:
  • They're big, burly, blonde guys who are great at fighting
  • They lead a small band of rough and crude brawlers
  • They are surprisingly devious schemers who are often underestimated and always stay one step ahead of their enemies
  • They distinguish themselves by thinking outside the confines of their culture towards a greater purpose. Vikings were basically the biker gangs/death metal bands of their time.

Jarl Borg became an eagle
Turns out the Seer is such a goddamn Troll he was being both literal and metaphorical at the same time: Jarl Borg would both become an eagle in that he'd suffer a blood eagle and that he'd merge his soul with an eagle. In his execution, an eagle perches in a nearby area just before Jarl Borg dies, and he briefly stares and smiles as he sees it. Even Ragnar briefly halts the execution to look at the animal. So turns out Jarl Borg now fused with that eagle.

Also, Jarl Borg is probably a warg. The eagle functions simultaneously a sign from Odin praising Borg for his bravery, and also symbolizes his soul going to Valhalla. Ragnar stops to look at it because he's mindful of these kinds of occurrences. He saw a Raven after he defeated Haraldson and interpreted that as meaning Odin was watching their battle.

Ivar will NOT be cripple
Rather, he will be exceptionally tall and mighty for his age. 'Boneless' will simply be an Ironic Nickname.
  • Jossed, he has malformed legs.

Borg's first wife really did speak to him through her skull
.She told him to go to Kattegat because she knew the fate that awaited him, and she knew that he'd be strong enough to endure it and ascend to Valhalla. The show seems fond of Magical Realism, so hey.

Ragnar and his warriors live on Samsø

  • Jossed, it's located in Norway.

Athelstan will become King of East Anglia
Not a great deal is known about the historical Æthelstan of East Anglia (a contemporary of Egbert) and given how fast and loose the showrunners are playing with the history, anyway, he'd slot into that role pretty easily.
  • Jossed. Floki kills him in S 3 E 08.
  • However, he turns out to be the father of Alfred the Great, and therefore the ancestor of all Anglo-Saxon kings down to Edward the Confessor. And Edward's successor will be deposed by a descendant of Rollo - William of Normandy.

Björn will meet Garðar Svavarsson
Björn will meet Garðar Svavarsson and they will sail togheter and discover Iceland. Gardar will assist Björn in becoming king of Svealand (Sweden).

Rollo will either sleep with and/or marry the Queen of Mercia.
This will be the final nail in the coffin as far as Rollo/Siggy is concerned and Siggy, for her own safety, will side with King Horik right before the tensions between him and Ragnar come to a head. He becomes a Duke of Normandy after raiding in Frankia in 911.
  • Jossed. Siggy drowned before any of such happened.

Horik has been scheming way longer than everyone believes
In fact, he is singlehanded responsible for everything which ever went bad for the Vikings. He ordered the sons of Jarl Haraldson to be killed. He wanted to seize control over Kattegat through the marriage of his cousin with Thyri. When Ragnar unknowingly ruined his plans, he pitted him again Jarl Borg in the hope that they would destroy each other. He never intended for Athelstan to survive the raid in Wessex and getting captured actually saved Athelstan's live.

It's not Ragnar or Bjorn Floki is supposed to kill in the second season finale. It's Rollo and/or Athelstan
Because those two are the only ones which Floki feels enough hatred towards. Thankfully Siggy will reveal the plan in time.
  • Horik intends Floki to murder Bjorn, but both Floki and Siggy had actually been double agents for Ragnar the whole time.

Horik is NOT dead
All he got was a stabbing, a few head-butts and his skull being smashed into a fine paste with an axe.

Jarl Borg lives in Skara
It's a landlocked viking age town located in the historical and present Götaland and it would take days to travel there from the sea.

Ivar and Angrboda will be a team and possibly lovers
They will both be outcasts, Angrboda because of her parents and Ivar because of his apperance. Angrboda will be the Floki of the next generation of vikings.
  • According to the sagas, Ivar held no interest for love or women in general. One interpretation of his nickname, the Boneless, was that he was impotent, and another interpretation being that he was asexual. Them being friends/a team is always possible, though.
  • Sadly, Jossed. She dies of unspecified causes in season 4, presumably illness.

The sons of Ragnar will apply to sons of Odin
Ragnar was quite explicitly compared to Odin in the promotional material of season 2. His sons will reflect this in upcoming seasons.
  • Björn=Baldr
  • Ubbe=Thor
  • Hvitserk=Bragi
  • Sigurd=Hödr
  • Ivar=Vidar

Jossed (mostly). Ivar unceremoniously killed Sigurd. That would have made Sigurd the analogue to Baldr. Ivar does kind of match the vengeance trope that Vidar. Part of the legend states Loki had an active role in Baldr’s death, but Floki (as far as we know) didn’t encourage fratricide. Ivar kind of denies ‘intentionally’ killing his brother, but he’s also easily the most violent character of the entire series.

Kalf secretly is still loyal to Lagertha
The whole usurpation is a plot to keep Einar or anyone else from taking her Earldom, so he can give it back when she returns. Inviting Erlendur to visit is to have all her enemies in one place when she and her warriors arrive.
  • Jossed. Kalf seems adamant in keeping the earldom. On the other hand, he doesn't really seem to be being built up into a villain, which is refreshing. Lagertha's invincibility and the fact everyone who wronged was portrayed as cartoonishly evil (*cough* Sigvard *cough*) was getting slightly grating.
    • Note how he saved Lagertha but didn't even utter a warning to Erlendur when he realized they are all rushing into a trap in To The Gates.
    • Kalf has made a pretty good case for both being loyal to Lagertha and wanting power. He seems content with sharing power. Now all that is missing is them sealing the deal with marriage.
    • Unfortunately for Kalf, Lagertha isn't in the mood for sharing and stabs him to death on their wedding day, becoming the sole Earl of Hedeby once again. This time she's in a stronger position than before since Kalf helped her eliminate her enemies.

Everything that comes out of Kwenthrith's mouth is a lie
She's established in the show initially as being a patricide and general mass-murderer. All her rationale about having been raped repeatedly by her uncle and other brother is lies which she cultivates to gather support. Ecbert easily sees through her ruse and only sees her as a tool to control Mercia, but both she and Ecbert project her story to convince the Vikings to help her and conveniently sweep away her murder of her father, knowing that historically the Vikings viewed patricide as badly as the Romans.

Athelstan was prone to hallucinations
He merely perceived them as divine visions due to being a superstitious Christian in Dark Ages Europe.

Ragnar's conversion is part of a Batman Gambit to enter Paris from the inside
Remember when the Seer told him that Paris would be conquered by the dead, not the living? Ragnar will fake his death and, since he's a "Christian", ask for the right to buried within such a holy city. The Franks will grant his request and when he's inside, Ragnar will climb out of his casket at night, kill everyone around him and open the gates of the city from the inside and let his army through to pillage the city unimpeded. Just like what Bjorn Ironside did to conquer Luna historically.
  • Confirmed. Not that it was hard to extrapolate based on the preview.

Ragnar will not die in Season 3
As a contrast to the WMG above, Ragnar really does believe he is dying and does want to be reunited with his best friend. However, after being baptized he makes a full recovery and has to live with the consequences of his advisers seeing him convert and much of Season 4 will be him needing to prevent a religious war throughout his kingdom. While Hirst is fine with killing people off early, Ragnar living to be very old before being killed in Aelle's snakepit is such a big part of his story.
  • Possibly jossed. It was indeed a ruse, and Ragnar shanks the bishop who gave him his baptism so I doubt anyone at home will have cause to think he was at all serious about it.
  • Confirmed. He died in Season 4.

The Series will continue after Ragnar's death.
Whether it happens in season 4 or beyond, providing the ratings stay solid, the series will continue after Ragnar, with either Bjorn or Rollo taking over as the main character. The series is called Vikings, not The Ragnar Show.
  • Confirmed by Michael Hirst himself.

Ragnar and his people live somewhere in Sweden
I say this only because Athelstan told Judith he could see the sun at midnight where the Northmen come from. My guess is that they live in Gotaland or eastern Norrland. They cant be from Svealand because they treated Earl Bjarni, who was from there, as a foreigner back in season one.

I also submit that Ragnar and his people are Geats. They can't be Svear, because as stated they treated Bjarni as a foreigner. Horik's a Dane, but his family married into a Svearish/Geatic line, which is where his claim on Gotaland came from.

  • Jossed, in episode 16 of season 4 Lagertha states that Kattegat is the riches trading port in Norway. It has been aluded to in supplementary materials and by Aslaug's statement that for Harald to be king of all Norway he would have to overthrow Ragnar.

Everyone in the show suffers from hallucinations
Carrying on from the above WMG. It's all those hallucinogenic mushrooms probably.

This series will end with the sons of Ragnar killing Aella and beginning the conquest of Northumbria and Mercia
And the final few episodes will end with Bjorn, Ivar and Halfdan planning a siege of the great fortress of Bebbanburgh, which will be the last bastion of Anglo-Saxon resistance to the Viking invaders. The lord there will ride out with his shield-wall to face them in battle, and will be defeated by the Ragnarssons and their trusted hersir, who is also called Ragnar.

Then, the Ragnarssons and Ragnar will come across a hot-blooded young Northumbrian boy called Uhtred, ''and then...''!

  • THIS.

Ragnar and Rollo just played a Good Cop/Bad Cop with the Franks
They only took Paris with a single-use trick, after taking heavy casualties. And they looted what they could. The Vikings don't actually plan on coming back, but letting the Franks believe that just got Rollo a duchy and a princess. And when his new father-in-law remembers how much he hates his brothers, Rollo can mention that he just happens to be on good terms with an available mercenary force.
  • God I hope this is true. Unfortunately Hirst has said that Ragnar and Rollo will be coming towards a reckoning in the next season, but he's misled us in interviews before. It's worth noting that Normandy was a mustering for Viking raids on England. Just because Rollo's officially working for the Franks doesn't mean he can't continue to help Ragnar and his nephews.
  • Impossible after the first battle of Season 4.
    • Once again possible given promos for the second half of Season 4, which show Bjorn approaching Rollo for his help in getting his ships to the Mediterranean. Rollo is shown telling a crying Gisla that he can't deny the fact he's still a Viking.
    • No, Rollo gives Bjorn aid because he wants to go viking again and is still a pagan. The Lothbroks does not seem to have further interest in Frankia. Helping the vikings attack the Moors would likely be approved the Frankish court, but it is pretty devastating for Gisla to hear he husband is still a pagan at heart. This does not rule that other vikings might try to attack Frankia, we have historical figures like Asgeir and Hostein for that.

The show will end with the Norman Conquest
The second half of the series will focus on the next generation, which will cover about 200+ years of history. Many of Ragnar's descendants (sons and perhaps grandsons) will continue exploring/conquering: the Mediterranean, Middle East, North Atlantic Islands, and finally North America. The rest of the main players will be involved with the battle for the future of Europe in England/France.

By making Alfred the Great the child of Aethelstan, Hirst has tied him into the Saxon Royal lineage. Historically Alfred (i.e. Team Aethelstan) unified and centralized England for the first time, improving the infrastructure and bureaucracy, improving education, and writing and commissioning great works of art and history. He also repeatedly held off Viking invasions and raids. His reign was first to know extended peace from attack. Eventually, however, Alfred’s dynasty withered up.

Cnut the Great was the most renowned ruler of the subsequent era. Cnut was said to be a descendant of Sigrid Snake-in-the-Eye, making him Team Ragnar for the purposes of the show. He married an Emma of Normandy, a descendant of the real Rollo, making him even more likely to appear in the show. So first Team Aethelstan rules England, then Team Ragnar.

Cnut’s line eventually ends, and in swoops William the Conqueror (likely Rollo's son for the show) and the Normans. Team Rollo takes the throne, rules England, and is the progenitor of every modern royal family and many past ones. As the Seer said, if Rollo knew what the gods had in store, he would dance naked on the beach.

This sets up a triangular struggle for the second half of the show, between three sons representing feuding (but closely related) families: Alfred the Great (the Saxons; son of Aethelstan and Judith (who in the show is a daughter of Aella, the ultimate killer of Ragnar in history)), Cnut the Great (the Danes; historically a grandson of Ragnar through Sigrid and, strangely, another daughter of Aella), and William the Conqueror (the Normans; likely a son of Rollo and Gisla, herself a descendant of Charlemagne).

Guthrum is THE Guthrum
Torvi's son is the same Guthrum that will be one of the commanders of the Great Heathen Army.

Emperor Charles will be overthrown, and Rollo will get a new wife.
This show plays fast and loose with history (as it should, because to be quite frank a lot of what really happened would make for boring TV), so not all of this will line up. In reality, Odo (hero of the Siege of Paris in 885-86) was elected King of the Franks after Charles the Fat was deposed in 887. Charles the Simple, Gisla's father, ascended to the throne after Odo's death, but was overthrown in c. 923 by Robert of Neustria, Odo's brother. TV!Odo isn't being at all subtle about his ambitions, and TV!Charles is a paranoid idiot, but one way or another he's going to lose his crown even if Odo ends up dying first.

It's not certain that Gisla ever actually existed, and if she did it doesn't seem as though she was the mother of any of Rollo's children. That honor instead goes to Poppa of Bayeux, a Frankish noblewoman whose background is obscure—though it's speculated that Rollo captured her during a raid. It wouldn't be out of the question to have Gisla killed when her father is overthrown, as she herself is a dangerous political opponent and her potential children would be a threat to any new regime. Without her, there's nothing to stop Rollo from returning to his old ways, which would include kidnapping a new Frankish wife to resecure his hold on Normandy.

  • Whether Robert of Neustria is Odo's father or brother is not clear in the first place.
    • Which is irrelevant, in the end. Either way, both Charles the Fat and Charles the Simple were overthrown and were not immediately succeeded by someone in their direct family line.
  • Potentially jossed; Odo's been executed for conspiring against Charles and Rollo(who had no part in Odo's downfall) has assumed his power and responsibility. Rolland may still try to maneuver against either Rollo or Charles, but that's yet to be seen. Unrelated to that, Gisla has announced that she's pregnant with Rollo's child, though this show isn't above miscarriages or infant mortality.

Harbard is the bad aspect of Loki compared to Floki's "good".
Floki takes Loki's divinity in the constructive attributes like shipbuilding and fighting, but Harbard is also an aspect of Loki, the lying and destroying part. The two will have a fight when they meet in person, probably ending with Harbard dead and Floki exiled to Iceland.

Or, alternatively, Sigurd will stab Harbard to death when he can't take him anymore.
Killing a god or a half of one should be a fitting accomplishment for him.
  • Avoided by Harbard leaving.

History is totally out of the window by the moment.
With Odo being dead, Aella and the Harald brothers moved to Mauve Shirt status, It's very likely that one between Ragnar and Rollo will be dead in a not historical way when this season ends. Floki is also very likely to die before he can discover Iceland.
  • Well, partly jossed by episode ten(though there's still another ten episodes in the season to go); Rollo and Ragnar don't end up killing one another, with Ragnar being dragged onto one of the retreating boats before he and Rollo can finish their fight. Episode ten also moves the timeline forward some, ages up the princes, and finally gives the main cast a reason to return to England by revealing to them that Ragnar has a son there and that the farming settlement they established was annihilated, which puts things back on track for Ragnar to meet his end as he did in the sagas.

Floki will become a Gothi in Iceland.

Hedeby in the show is not the same as the historical Hedeby.

Through this would just be a lame excuse for the Hedeby in the show having nothing to do with the real deal.

The Big Fat Season 5 Guess.
The Great Heathen Army's conquest of England and the Discovery/Colonization of Iceland will be a major part of season 5.Jonathan Rhys Meyers has been cast as bishop Heahmund. He, Aethelwulf, Aethelred and wee Alfred will lead the resistance against the norsemen. Aethelwulf will die at the end of season 4, or in the middle of season 5. Aethelred and Heahmund will perish at the battle of Marton, leaving Alfred to fight the Great Heathen Army.

Meanwhile, Harald Finehair and his brother Halfdan Dubioushair will use the death of Aslaug and the possible split in the Lothbrok camp to take over Kattegat. This will result in a lot of refuges from Norway who will try to escape king Harald and people in the Great Heathen Army who will not be able to go home. Then Floki will pick up a rumor of a nearly uninhabited island, visited by some blokes named Naddodd and Gardar. A ragtag team will join him, like Ketill Flatnose, and they will sail to Iceland and start up a colony.

Margrethe becomes Margaret Fredkulla, de facto queen of Denmark
Floki turned out to be Hrafna-Flóki Vilgerðarson. Margrethe is very ambitious, and the Seer said she would be queen, just not of where she is at the time she asked him.

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