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Enter Evangelion, a reality way more screwed up than his home reality. After he was done with that, he decided to do research into what other people are like. Shinji and Neku were similar, but Shinji was a much worse case. So he decided to insert himself into another reality. As Izaya Orihara of ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}''.

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Enter Evangelion, a reality way more screwed up than his home reality. After he was done with that, he decided to do research into what other people are like. Shinji and Neku were similar, but Shinji was a much worse case. So he decided to insert himself into another reality. As Izaya Orihara of ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}''.
''Literature/{{Durarara}}''.
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Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[ADateWithRosiePalms that]] [[DudeShesLikeInAComa scene]] in the massive TakeThatAudience known as ''End of Evangelion'' is being Anno's way of FlippingTheBird to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write a thesis on this, like, now.

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Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[ADateWithRosiePalms that]] [[DudeShesLikeInAComa that scene]] in the massive TakeThatAudience known as ''End of Evangelion'' is being Anno's way of FlippingTheBird to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write a thesis on this, like, now.



* This [[ADateWithRosiePalms wanker]] is so fucked up. Hee hee hee.......

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* This [[ADateWithRosiePalms wanker]] wanker is so fucked up. Hee hee hee.......
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** It should also noted that in ''Nadia'', "Adam" was considered a failed at creating humans before the Atlanteans moved on to using primates. So "Lilith" could have been a more successful second attempt and the Atlanteans utilized the data they gathered from her in their experiments on the primates. However, not wanting "Adam" to go to waste, the Atlanteans used his genome to create the monsters we know as "Angels" and used them in their conquest of Earth and later, their inner civil wars that led to their downfall.

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** It should also noted that in ''Nadia'', "Adam" was considered a failed attempt at creating humans before the Atlanteans moved on to using primates. So "Lilith" could have been a more successful second attempt and the Atlanteans utilized the data they gathered from her in their experiments on the primates. However, not wanting "Adam" to go to waste, the Atlanteans used his genome to create the monsters we know as "Angels" and used them in their conquest of Earth and later, their inner civil wars that led to their downfall.
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** It should also noted that in ''Nadia'', "Adam" was considered a failed at creating humans before the Atlanteans moved on to using primates. So "Lilith" could have been a more successful second attempt and the Atlanteans utilized the data they gathered from her in their experiments on the primates. However, not wanting "Adam" to go to waste, the Atlanteans used his genome to create the monsters we know as "Angels" and used them in their conquest of Earth and later, their inner civil wars that led to their downfall.


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** Also, the Atlanteans, seeing themselves as the "Gods" of the world, would name the Angels their "Apostles" (which was what they were originally going to be called in ''NGE'' before they switched to "Angels").
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* Going off the idea that ''Eva'' was going to be a DistantSequel to ''Nadia'', it's possible that the Angels are biological Weapons of Mass Destruction made to serve the people of Ancient Atlantis. Considering that it was even stated by Ritsuko that the Angels' genome is close to that of a human and since the Atlanteans created humanity in ''Nadia'', it seems all the more likely that they created the Angels using the human genome as a basis.

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* Going off the idea that ''Eva'' was going to be a DistantSequel to ''Nadia'', it's possible that the Angels are biological Weapons of Mass Destruction made to serve the people of Ancient Atlantis. Considering that it was even stated by Ritsuko that the Angels' genome is close to that of a human and since the Atlanteans created humanity in ''Nadia'', ''Nadia'' (a prototype of which is even named "Adam"), it seems all the more likely that they created the Angels using the same human genome as a basis.
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[[WMG: The Angels were created by the Ancient Atlanteans from ''Anime/NadiaTheSecretOfBlueWater''.]]
* Going off the idea that ''Eva'' was going to be a DistantSequel to ''Nadia'', it's possible that the Angels are biological Weapons of Mass Destruction made to serve the people of Ancient Atlantis. Considering that it was even stated by Ritsuko that the Angels' genome is close to that of a human and since the Atlanteans created humanity in ''Nadia'', it seems all the more likely that they created the Angels using the human genome as a basis.
* This is further supplemented by the "Classified Information" from the ''Evangelion 2'' video game. This extra info mentions a "First Ancestral Race" being responsible for the creation of mankind and the Angels. This is most likely a reference to the alien race that came to Earth and eventually became Atlantis in the backstory for ''Nadia''.
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Misato is the crone, skewed in that though she is still young and beautiful, she believes herself to be ChristmasCake... an old maid convinced that her married friends have passed her by, despite all evidence to the contrary. Asuka plays the traditional role of the maiden to Shinji, while at the same time being as truly NOT maiden-like as possible. Rei is positioned as the mother, a relationship position whose skewing should be obvious.

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Misato is the crone, skewed in that though she is still young and beautiful, she believes herself to be ChristmasCake... an old maid OldMaid, convinced that her married friends have passed her by, despite all evidence to the contrary. Asuka plays the traditional role of the maiden to Shinji, while at the same time being as truly NOT maiden-like as possible. Rei is positioned as the mother, a relationship position whose skewing should be obvious.
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*** Twilight: Vampires represent the Angels, "perfect" beings with imperfect conditions that prevent them peacefully co-existing with humans, werewolves are Evas (more animalistic beings, some of which [piloted EVAs] live amongst humans despite the danger). Bella is Shinji, Edward is [[spoiler: Kaworu]] as Shinji wished they could be ([[HoYay to be together]]), Renesmee is Asuka (what happens with her is mostly a result of Shinji and [[spoiler: Kaworu]] screwing around and not doing their best to [[spoiler: defeat the evil Angels/vampires]] before [[spoiler: being imprinted/MindRaped by Jacob/the hypersynch]]). Gendo is Bella's mother, Misato is her father, Rei [[spoiler: and Lilith]] hasn't appeared yet since it's not quite the end of the series, and Pen-Pen simply doesn't feature in the [[spoiler: Instrumentality dream]].

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*** Twilight: Vampires represent the Angels, "perfect" beings with imperfect conditions that prevent them peacefully co-existing with humans, werewolves are Evas (more animalistic beings, some of which [piloted EVAs] [=EVAs=]] live amongst humans despite the danger). Bella is Shinji, Edward is [[spoiler: Kaworu]] as Shinji wished they could be ([[HoYay to be together]]), Renesmee is Asuka (what happens with her is mostly a result of Shinji and [[spoiler: Kaworu]] screwing around and not doing their best to [[spoiler: defeat the evil Angels/vampires]] before [[spoiler: being imprinted/MindRaped by Jacob/the hypersynch]]). Gendo is Bella's mother, Misato is her father, Rei [[spoiler: and Lilith]] hasn't appeared yet since it's not quite the end of the series, and Pen-Pen simply doesn't feature in the [[spoiler: Instrumentality dream]].



* This goes quite further. Not only are there parallels between every fictional/real universe, but '''the entire multiverse''' originates from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion. It's the Earth-Prime universe that [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths Owlman was attempting to destroy.]]

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* This goes quite further. Not only are there parallels between every fictional/real universe, but '''the entire multiverse''' originates from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion.''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's the Earth-Prime universe that [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths Owlman was attempting to destroy.]]



* How about Japan's national history? Especially the 19th and 20th centuries. One has to keep in mind these events--the attempted Christian proselytization by foreign powers, Matthew Perry's forcing open of national borders, Japan's rapid modernization and militarization, beating up on Russia and Asia, and finally the surrender to Allied Powers at the conclusion of the Second World War. Knowing this, it's obvious to relate the concept of the 'Second Impact' to the detonation of Little Boy over Hiroshima, as well as the desperate fight to keep a possible 'Third Impact' from happening as Japan's last stand before the detonation of Fat Man over Nagasaki. The OVAs made after the series (not counting the newer movies) represent what would probably have become of Japan if she didn't surrender, and if the Allies proceeded with Operation Olympic. The story's use of the Evangelion and the character Rei Ayanami alludes to the Empire of Japan's use of western technology and the employment of the expendable 'Kamikaze' pilots respectively. The 'Angels' represent the obvious enemy of the Allies, perhaps more specifically the predominantly Christian powers of the US and (former) British Commonwealth.

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* How about Japan's national history? Especially the 19th and 20th centuries. One has to keep in mind these events--the attempted Christian proselytization by foreign powers, Matthew Perry's forcing open of national borders, Japan's rapid modernization and militarization, beating up on Russia and Asia, and finally the surrender to Allied Powers at the conclusion of the Second World War. Knowing this, it's obvious to relate the concept of the 'Second Impact' to the detonation of Little Boy over Hiroshima, as well as the desperate fight to keep a possible 'Third Impact' from happening as Japan's last stand before the detonation of Fat Man over Nagasaki. The OVAs [=OVAs=] made after the series (not counting the newer movies) represent what would probably have become of Japan if she didn't surrender, and if the Allies proceeded with Operation Olympic. The story's use of the Evangelion and the character Rei Ayanami alludes to the Empire of Japan's use of western technology and the employment of the expendable 'Kamikaze' pilots respectively. The 'Angels' represent the obvious enemy of the Allies, perhaps more specifically the predominantly Christian powers of the US and (former) British Commonwealth.



* I personally like to interperet Neon Genesis Evangelion, more specifically The End of Evangelion, as the precursor to '''[[Literature/The Bible]'''. Think about it. Shinji and Asuka are left in a desolate place after Human Instrumentality is launched. It was all Shinji's choice to save the world or end it, and he chose for everyone to die. In the third chapter of Genesis, Satan tempts the two to consume the forbidden fruit, and they lose their connection with god, which also meant that they were stranded out of the Garden of Eden. There, they had 3 children, Cain, Abel & Seth. Shinji and Asuka would also need to find ways to survive in this horiffic world, ouside the Garden of Eden, and so they feed themselves off the nutrients in the waters nearby. They eventually procreate 3 times, which leads to the birth of Cain, Abel & Seth. Therefore, Neon Genesis Evangelion might have resulted in the real world that we live in today.

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* I personally like to interperet Neon Genesis Evangelion, more specifically The End of Evangelion, as the precursor to '''[[Literature/The Bible]'''.'''Literature/TheBible'''. Think about it. Shinji and Asuka are left in a desolate place after Human Instrumentality is launched. It was all Shinji's choice to save the world or end it, and he chose for everyone to die. In the third chapter of Genesis, Satan tempts the two to consume the forbidden fruit, and they lose their connection with god, which also meant that they were stranded out of the Garden of Eden. There, they had 3 children, Cain, Abel & Seth. Shinji and Asuka would also need to find ways to survive in this horiffic world, ouside the Garden of Eden, and so they feed themselves off the nutrients in the waters nearby. They eventually procreate 3 times, which leads to the birth of Cain, Abel & Seth. Therefore, Neon Genesis Evangelion might have resulted in the real world that we live in today.



* Shinji and Asuka's attitudes are flipped compared to other idealistic anime. Sexual anxiety, an UnwantedHarem and lack of maternal attention are actually psychologically ''bad'' for you, as Shinji has shown and contrary to most other harem anime out there. [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex And if you force an Inferiority Complex down on a woman's throat, as patriarchal regimes had tried in the past, you may just end up with someone that has a really angry Superiority Complex, as Asuka has shown]].
* An Eva's armor, which constrains her body like a corset/bondage gear and makes her dependent on an external power source, symbolizes societally imposed restrictions on women, such as absolute obedience. When Eva goes into berserker MamaBear mode, freeing her from the restraint technology and strengthening her own Ego Barrier (Absolute Terror Field), especially in times when she needs to protect herself and her child, you see woman's true, natural form that is just as powerful as Man, which from a misogynistic perspective is a odiously disgusting EldritchAbomination of absolute terror.
* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the demonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "demonic", in [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale one]] or another sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. To satisfy Adam, God creates Eve, who as we all know was submissive yet helped Adam fall from God's grace. Eve is represented by the ArtificialHuman "Galatea", ReiAyanami.

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* Shinji and Asuka's attitudes are flipped compared to other idealistic anime. Sexual anxiety, an UnwantedHarem and lack of maternal attention are actually psychologically ''bad'' for you, as Shinji has shown and contrary to most other harem anime out there. [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex And if you force an Inferiority Complex down on a woman's throat, as patriarchal regimes had tried in the past, you may just end up with someone that has a really angry Superiority Complex, as Asuka has shown]].
* An Eva's armor, which constrains her body like a corset/bondage gear and makes her dependent on an external power source, symbolizes societally imposed restrictions on women, such as absolute obedience. When Eva goes into berserker MamaBear mode, freeing her from the restraint technology and strengthening her own Ego Barrier (Absolute Terror Field), especially in times when she needs to protect herself and her child, you see woman's true, natural form that is just as powerful as Man, which from a misogynistic perspective is a an odiously disgusting EldritchAbomination of absolute terror.
* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the demonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "demonic", in [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale one]] or another sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. To satisfy Adam, God creates Eve, who as we all know was submissive yet helped Adam fall from God's grace. Eve is represented by the ArtificialHuman "Galatea", ReiAyanami.Rei Ayanami.



Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[ADateWithRosiePalms that]] [[DudeShesLikeInAComa scene]] in the massive TakeThatAudience known as End of Evangelion is being Anno's way of FlippingTheBird to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write a thesis on this, like, now.

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Also, one of the most major interpretations of [[ADateWithRosiePalms that]] [[DudeShesLikeInAComa scene]] in the massive TakeThatAudience known as End ''End of Evangelion Evangelion'' is being Anno's way of FlippingTheBird to both the antisocials and the merchandising that serves them. Someone needs to write a thesis on this, like, now.



The first 24 episodes are the first entry in the canon. However, the series doesn't have a clear end yet. After Episode 24, End of Evangelion takes place. After witnessing the horrors of what he has done and trying to strangle Asuka, Shinji and she return to LCL offscreen. This is when Episode 25 begins: the main characters all go through heavy psychoanalysis from their subconscious minds, which they interpret visually as other people, but which are just aspects of themselves. Between 25 and 26, Rebuild of Evangelion 1.0 takes place: Shinji has a flashback to the first 6 episodes of the original series. This, along with the lessons he learns in Episode 26, persuade him to continue living in reality. Shinji, being in full control of Instrumentality, restores humanity to as it was right after Episode 6, but slightly different. Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 through Final are in sequential order.

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The first 24 episodes are the first entry in the canon. However, the series doesn't have a clear end yet. After Episode 24, End ''End of Evangelion Evangelion'' takes place. After witnessing the horrors of what he has done and trying to strangle Asuka, Shinji and she return to LCL offscreen. This is when Episode 25 begins: the main characters all go through heavy psychoanalysis from their subconscious minds, which they interpret visually as other people, but which are just aspects of themselves. Between 25 and 26, Rebuild ''Rebuild of Evangelion 1.0 0'' takes place: Shinji has a flashback to the first 6 episodes of the original series. This, along with the lessons he learns in Episode 26, persuade him to continue living in reality. Shinji, being in full control of Instrumentality, restores humanity to as it was right after Episode 6, but slightly different. Rebuild ''Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 0'' through Final are in sequential order.



* This should really go on the WMG/RebuildOfEvangelion page, but I'm going with the assumption that Lilith's Lance problem is the same in both continuities: When the Black Moon hit Earth, Lilith lost her Lance and it disintegrated. Considering Adam came to earth in the ''White'' Moon, you could safely say SEELE are working to excavate HIM to use in their plans for the world.

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* This should really go on the WMG/RebuildOfEvangelion ''WMG/RebuildOfEvangelion'' page, but I'm going with the assumption that Lilith's Lance problem is the same in both continuities: When the Black Moon hit Earth, Lilith lost her Lance and it disintegrated. Considering Adam came to earth in the ''White'' Moon, you could safely say SEELE are working to excavate HIM to use in their plans for the world.



[[WMG: Leliel's Sea of Dirac leads to Digimon Adventure 02's Ocean of Darkness.]]In episode 16, Shinji converse to a Shinji that was another side of him, and conversely, in Digimon 02, when Hikari visit the Ocean of Darkness, we see a side of her that was not usually dominant; to sum it up, it's a means of travel between universes.

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[[WMG: Leliel's Sea of Dirac leads to Digimon ''Digimon Adventure 02's 02'''s Ocean of Darkness.]]In ]] In episode 16, Shinji converse to a Shinji that was another side of him, and conversely, in Digimon 02, ''Digimon 02'', when Hikari visit the Ocean of Darkness, we see a side of her that was not usually dominant; to sum it up, it's a means of travel between universes.



** Jossed. EVA-02 contains Kyoko Sohyru's soul and if there's one thing BMWs do not contain, it's soul.

[[WMG: The ending of End of Evangelion is the beginning of a Series/KenanAndKel sketch on orange soda.]]

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** Jossed. EVA-02 contains Kyoko Sohyru's soul and if there's one thing BMWs [=BMWs=] do not contain, it's soul.

[[WMG: The ending of End ''End of Evangelion Evangelion'' is the beginning of a Series/KenanAndKel ''Series/KenanAndKel'' sketch on orange soda.]]



Seriously, he even exclaimed "Everyone just die" while simultaneously letting God kill off humanity and collect their souls, just because of his growing madness caused by his chains of FreudianExcuse after FreudianExcuse, and the realization on how pointless his efforts are when it still leads to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. And since this is a fucked-up Shinji, he might even continue to force God to annihilate the entirety of the universe through a RealityBreakingParadox ala Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon (seriously, it explains the ep.26 MindScrew). Yui, Rei and Kaworu, who realized that [[EvenEvilHasStandards this is wrong even by their eldritch standards]], eventually talked him out of it with lectures about [[EarnYourHappyEnding earning our happy endings]], allowing Instrumentality to discontinue the world-annihilating process and make him come back from the LCL.



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Seriously, he even exclaimed "Everyone just die" while simultaneously letting God kill off humanity and collect their souls, just because of his growing madness caused by his chains of FreudianExcuse after FreudianExcuse, and the realization on how pointless his efforts are when it still leads to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. And since this is a fucked-up Shinji, he might even continue to force God to annihilate the entirety of the universe through a RealityBreakingParadox ala Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon ''Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon'' (seriously, it explains the ep.26 MindScrew). Yui, Rei and Kaworu, who realized that [[EvenEvilHasStandards this is wrong even by their eldritch standards]], eventually talked him out of it with lectures about [[EarnYourHappyEnding earning our happy endings]], allowing Instrumentality to discontinue the world-annihilating process and make him come back from the LCL.


LCL.




Since these isolated kids are the most singled out from everyone else, they are the only ones whose condition has passed a threshold where their lonliness mainfests as a strong AT Fields. The more disconnected from humanity these kids are, the more powerful their AT- Fields are. Remember that none of these kids can empathize (Asuka and/ are socially awkward (Rei). This goes along with the Hedgehog's Dilemma theory, as it explains why these kids are unable to connect with other; the fear of being hurt by getting closer to others. Fearing others, the kids form natural mental barriers to keep others out. The more barriers, the stronger AT-Field. Of course is the case of [[spoiler: the 5th pilot in Rebuild 2.0]] she is so detached from everyone, she has AT -Fields, of course hers aren't as powerful as the other 3 as their detachment from humanity is more extreme than hers; she's only uninterested in humanity while the rest reject it.\
* LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya, anyone?

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Since these isolated kids are the most singled out from everyone else, they are the only ones whose condition has passed a threshold where their lonliness mainfests as a strong AT Fields. The more disconnected from humanity these kids are, the more powerful their AT- Fields are. Remember that none of these kids can empathize (Asuka and/ are socially awkward (Rei). This goes along with the Hedgehog's Dilemma theory, as it explains why these kids are unable to connect with other; the fear of being hurt by getting closer to others. Fearing others, the kids form natural mental barriers to keep others out. The more barriers, the stronger AT-Field. Of course is the case of [[spoiler: the 5th pilot in Rebuild 2.0]] she is so detached from everyone, she has AT -Fields, of course hers aren't as powerful as the other 3 as their detachment from humanity is more extreme than hers; she's only uninterested in humanity while the rest reject it.\
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* LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya, Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya, anyone?



* Uh...this one is true, in a way. The neural connection that controls the Evangelions is stated to be the "A10" nerve, which is known as the Ventral Tegmental Area of the brain. Said section of the brain is in charge of (among other things) providing the chemical reward system one feels for emotional social bonds, particularly that between a mother and child. The children who pilot the EVAs are so socially stunted that they instinctually reach out for any sort of support at all...and the mother's soul bound into the EVA responds. Thus they can only actually pilot because they desperately need a mother's affection.

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* Uh...this one is true, in a way. The neural connection that controls the Evangelions is stated to be the "A10" nerve, which is known as the Ventral Tegmental Area of the brain. Said section of the brain is in charge of (among other things) providing the chemical reward system one feels for emotional social bonds, particularly that between a mother and child. The children who pilot the EVAs [=EVAs=] are so socially stunted that they instinctually reach out for any sort of support at all...and the mother's soul bound into the EVA responds. Thus they can only actually pilot because they desperately need a mother's affection.



[[WMG: There is a scene missing from EoE]]
Ok, ok, ok. This is more wishful thinking than Wild Mass Guessing. However, the tone at the end of the series is so irreconcilable with the very last scene of [=EoE=], that one cannot help but scream WTF and think there is something missing. Here it is¦..

After Asuka's final line in the movie, Shinji wakes up with a start. The previous scene was a dream. Shinji and Asuka are still alone on the beach. However, things are slightly different. Shinji looks in one direction, and sees forests thick with vegetation. In the other direction, he sees Tokyo-3. The city appears to be empty, but the buildings are repaired and clean, and there are sounds coming from the city that suggests humans might already have returned. Shinji then looks at Asuka and stands up. He closes his eyes, clenches his fits, and remembers all of the speeches from the last two episodes of NGE and the parting words of Yui from EoE. With courage in his voice, he says to Asuka, "Before you start screaming at me listen", and then proceeds to tell her that it was physically impossible for him to awake Unit 01 in time. He also tells her that he did not pull her out of the LCL, but that he is happy she is there, Because I wouldn't have anyone else by my side! Asuka gets up and tells Shinji she knows. She also says that she decided to leave the LCL herself. She then pulls in a shocked Shinji for a long and passionate kiss. As the two embrace, the camera pulls out, and Fly me too the moon plays.

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[[WMG: There is a scene missing from EoE]]
''[=EoE=]'']]
Ok, ok, ok. This is more wishful thinking than Wild Mass Guessing. However, the tone at the end of the series is so irreconcilable with the very last scene of [=EoE=], ''[=EoE=]'', that one cannot help but scream WTF and think there is something missing. Here it is¦..

After Asuka's final line in the movie, Shinji wakes up with a start. The previous scene was a dream. Shinji and Asuka are still alone on the beach. However, things are slightly different. Shinji looks in one direction, and sees forests thick with vegetation. In the other direction, he sees Tokyo-3. The city appears to be empty, but the buildings are repaired and clean, and there are sounds coming from the city that suggests humans might already have returned. Shinji then looks at Asuka and stands up. He closes his eyes, clenches his fits, and remembers all of the speeches from the last two episodes of NGE and the parting words of Yui from EoE.[=EoE=]. With courage in his voice, he says to Asuka, "Before you start screaming at me listen", and then proceeds to tell her that it was physically impossible for him to awake Unit 01 in time. He also tells her that he did not pull her out of the LCL, but that he is happy she is there, Because I wouldn't have anyone else by my side! Asuka gets up and tells Shinji she knows. She also says that she decided to leave the LCL herself. She then pulls in a shocked Shinji for a long and passionate kiss. As the two embrace, the camera pulls out, and Fly me too the moon plays.



[[WMG:The Eva Units are made using technology from [[Main/{{Transformers}} Cybertron.]]]]

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[[WMG:The Eva Units are made using technology from [[Main/{{Transformers}} [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Cybertron.]]]]



[[WMG:''Evangelion'' is set in an Main/AlternateHistory where the Axis won World War 2.]]

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[[WMG:''Evangelion'' is set in an Main/AlternateHistory AlternateHistory where the Axis won World War 2.]]



[[WMG: SEELE was founded by [[Van Hohenheim.]]]]

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[[WMG: SEELE was founded by [[Van Van Hohenheim.]]]]]]



** An alternate idea that comes to mind is that Shinji wished for a much lighter, less serious version of the world as suggested, but the similarities between this idea and the end of Anime/TheBigO are staggering enough to suggest Yui Ikari is this universe's equivalent of Angel, all theme naming aside.
* If the movies are a Main/PeggySue -- that is, if one of the characters has arrived back at the beginning of the story with foreknowledge of the original series -- the obvious candidate is ''Misato''. She acts differently from her original self, being somewhat more mature and treating Shinji as less of a child (though that could be because most of the "domestic" scenes were cut, leaving only her badass commanding officer moments.) Most importantly, she knows about Lilith, and shows her to Shinji around 18 episodes ahead of schedule -- the one major plot departure in the first movie from the series. This goes a long way to help motivate Shinji fight Ramiel...

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** An alternate idea that comes to mind is that Shinji wished for a much lighter, less serious version of the world as suggested, but the similarities between this idea and the end of Anime/TheBigO ''Anime/TheBigO'' are staggering enough to suggest Yui Ikari is this universe's equivalent of Angel, all theme naming aside.
* If the movies are a Main/PeggySue PeggySue -- that is, if one of the characters has arrived back at the beginning of the story with foreknowledge of the original series -- the obvious candidate is ''Misato''. She acts differently from her original self, being somewhat more mature and treating Shinji as less of a child (though that could be because most of the "domestic" scenes were cut, leaving only her badass commanding officer moments.) Most importantly, she knows about Lilith, and shows her to Shinji around 18 episodes ahead of schedule -- the one major plot departure in the first movie from the series. This goes a long way to help motivate Shinji fight Ramiel...



* It's relevant to mention the big red stain across the moon in the end, too. A direct reference to Mega-Rei's Main/HighPressureBlood decapitation moment at the end of ''[=EoE=]''? Perhaps!

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* It's relevant to mention the big red stain across the moon in the end, too. A direct reference to Mega-Rei's Main/HighPressureBlood HighPressureBlood decapitation moment at the end of ''[=EoE=]''? Perhaps!



* Another way to look at it is that Shinji and Auska * hem* re-boot the human race, history plays out again, and eventually reaches the same point again but things played out differently through history, leading to the changes (heck maybe a tie in to the Axis won WWII theory). Kowaru, being an angel could probably remember his past life or not actually be dead or have some other alien magic up his sleeve to explain the knowledge he has. This would have the added bonus of explaining how Auskas name changed, having different parents. Witch could also mean she didn’t get the extra scaring effect of hearing her dad fuck the nurse/doctor. Indeed, a slightly lower level of insanity could also save her life (in terms of taking different actions) in her fight against the MP evas, leading to the eye-patch as seen in the preview of 3.0, as opposed to death.
* Something also to add-out of all the voice actors for the characters to return for the rebuild series, only Shinji, Auska and Misato have the same voice actors throughout the series and rebuild (English voice actors, going off TV Tropes list). Coincedintally, those are the same characters who have their psyche examined in Episodes 25 and 26, and two of them are the survivors at the end of EoE. A coincidence, or a plot point...

[[WMG: Shinji Ikari is the unknown Third Angel of the movie trilogy, and the new "Glasses Girl" character (Mari) is his [[Main/PeggySue daughter from the future]]]].

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* Another way to look at it is that Shinji and Auska * hem* *ahem* re-boot the human race, history plays out again, and eventually reaches the same point again but things played out differently through history, leading to the changes (heck maybe a tie in to the Axis won WWII theory). Kowaru, being an angel could probably remember his past life or not actually be dead or have some other alien magic up his sleeve to explain the knowledge he has. This would have the added bonus of explaining how Auskas name changed, having different parents. Witch could also mean she didn’t get the extra scaring effect of hearing her dad fuck the nurse/doctor. Indeed, a slightly lower level of insanity could also save her life (in terms of taking different actions) in her fight against the MP evas, leading to the eye-patch as seen in the preview of 3.0, as opposed to death.
* Something also to add-out of all the voice actors for the characters to return for the rebuild series, only Shinji, Auska and Misato have the same voice actors throughout the series and rebuild (English voice actors, going off TV Tropes list). Coincedintally, Coincidentally, those are the same characters who have their psyche examined in Episodes 25 and 26, and two of them are the survivors at the end of EoE.''[=EoE=]''. A coincidence, or a plot point...

[[WMG: Shinji Ikari is the unknown Third Angel of the movie trilogy, and the new "Glasses Girl" character (Mari) is his [[Main/PeggySue [[PeggySue daughter from the future]]]].future]]]]



** The former is disproved as of Rebuild 2.0., in which the Third Angel is shown and is destroyed by Mari in the opening. As for the latter, while it hasn't exactly been disproven yet, considering the fact that Mari doesn't even recognize who Shinji is when they meet, it's highly unlikely.
* It could be worth noting that in the popular Main/{{Doujinshi}} ''Re-Take'', Shinji was both a Main/PeggySue and [[spoiler:the Seventeenth Angel of the Main/AlternateContinuity he found himself in ("in the form of 'the Human Mind'" -- he possessed his [[Main/AlternateUniverse parallel self]]). ''And'' his future daughter shows up as an incorporeal Main/PeggySue herself.]] It could be that ''Rebuild'' is heading for a similar plot, especially if you add in the "sequel" theory above.

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** The former is disproved as of Rebuild ''Rebuild 2.0., '', in which the Third Angel is shown and is destroyed by Mari in the opening. As for the latter, while it hasn't exactly been disproven yet, considering the fact that Mari doesn't even recognize who Shinji is when they meet, it's highly unlikely.
* It could be worth noting that in the popular Main/{{Doujinshi}} {{Doujinshi}} ''Re-Take'', Shinji was both a Main/PeggySue PeggySue and [[spoiler:the Seventeenth Angel of the Main/AlternateContinuity AlternateContinuity he found himself in ("in the form of 'the Human Mind'" -- he possessed his [[Main/AlternateUniverse [[AlternateUniverse parallel self]]). ''And'' his future daughter shows up as an incorporeal Main/PeggySue PeggySue herself.]] It could be that ''Rebuild'' is heading for a similar plot, especially if you add in the "sequel" theory above.above.



Anno seems to be pushing for a relationship between Shinji and Rei in the Rebuild of Evangelion films. Rather odd, as Rei being a clone of Yui would make this relationship incestuous. However, they might be something we don't know about Shinji and Gendō that might validate this ship. Rather than being the child of Gendō and Yui, Shinji may be a clone of Gendō. This would explain why they look so identical (I'm aware that fathers and sons can be nearly perfectly identical to each other) and are so similar in personality - Shinji seems to share no physical or personal attributes with his so-called mother. It would further explain why Gendō cares for Rei, a clone of his beloved wife, far more than Shinji, a clone of himself that embodies his self-loathing and guilt. As for why Shinji is able to operate Unit-01? Shinji is older than the first Rei, so, rather than grown in LCL as the Rei clones are, perhaps he needed to be gestated and born in an actual woman's womb because the technology wasn't as advanced back then: that's how clones actually work right now in the real world, so it's not implausible to say they would have had to work like that back when the technique was still in its infancy. The woman who brought him to term and gave birth to him, thus making her his 'mother'? Yui. I don't know why Gendō would clone himself, or why Yui would agree to give birth to a clone of her husband, but the theory makes sense otherwise.



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Anno seems to be pushing for a relationship between Shinji and Rei in the Rebuild ''Rebuild of Evangelion Evangelion'' films. Rather odd, as Rei being a clone of Yui would make this relationship incestuous. However, they might be something we don't know about Shinji and Gendō that might validate this ship. Rather than being the child of Gendō and Yui, Shinji may be a clone of Gendō. This would explain why they look so identical (I'm aware that fathers and sons can be nearly perfectly identical to each other) and are so similar in personality - Shinji seems to share no physical or personal attributes with his so-called mother. It would further explain why Gendō cares for Rei, a clone of his beloved wife, far more than Shinji, a clone of himself that embodies his self-loathing and guilt. As for why Shinji is able to operate Unit-01? Shinji is older than the first Rei, so, rather than grown in LCL as the Rei clones are, perhaps he needed to be gestated and born in an actual woman's womb because the technology wasn't as advanced back then: that's how clones actually work right now in the real world, so it's not implausible to say they would have had to work like that back when the technique was still in its infancy. The woman who brought him to term and gave birth to him, thus making her his 'mother'? Yui. I don't know why Gendō would clone himself, or why Yui would agree to give birth to a clone of her husband, but the theory makes sense otherwise. \n\n\n




* The Red water in Rebuild was caused by [[VideoGame/{{Siren}} the Forbidden Siren]]

(What? I actually find it more plausible than "''Rebuild'' is a sequel". ''Rebuild'' is supposed to be a retelling of the story "more accessible to non-fans" -- i.e. an Main/AdaptationDistillation -- and so far, it succeeds at being exactly that.)

* Theory confirmed by Rebuild 2.0.

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* The Red water in Rebuild ''Rebuild'' was caused by [[VideoGame/{{Siren}} the Forbidden Siren]]

(What? I actually find it more plausible than "''Rebuild'' is a sequel". ''Rebuild'' is supposed to be a retelling of the story "more accessible to non-fans" -- i.e. an Main/AdaptationDistillation AdaptationDistillation -- and so far, it succeeds at being exactly that.)

* Theory confirmed by Rebuild ''Rebuild 2.0.
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* Except that: 1) the god-warriors were [[NightmareFuel clearly]] [[BodyHorror biological]], 2) [[ArtisticLicenseNuclearPhysics modern (and presumably future semi-post-apocalyptic) nuclear reactors do not poison the environment]], and 3) Jet Alone did not have DeathRays.

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* Except that: 1) the god-warriors were [[NightmareFuel clearly]] [[BodyHorror biological]], 2) [[ArtisticLicenseNuclearPhysics modern (and presumably future semi-post-apocalyptic) nuclear reactors do not poison the environment]], and 3) Jet Alone did not have DeathRays.
{{Death Ray}}s.



* Now I am just imagining {{WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead}} as EVA pilots.

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* Now I am just imagining {{WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead}} WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead as EVA pilots.



[[WMG: The entire show takes place in the Main/LotusEaterMachine at the end of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''.]]
... But not in the way you were expecting. It's not in the generation shown on the show, for it is noted that the [=AntiSpirals=] did this before, and there were other people trapped forever, you see -- Shinji is actually trapped in the Alternate Universes, things started out Normal, how the kid always wanted to live, not having to risk his life for others, but then, because it is apparent that true Main/{{Lotus Eater Machine}}s have conflict to give just the right amount of meaning to their victims' lives, the events of ''[=NGE=]'' occur.

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[[WMG: The entire show takes place in the Main/LotusEaterMachine LotusEaterMachine at the end of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''.]]
... But not in the way you were expecting. It's not in the generation shown on the show, for it is noted that the [=AntiSpirals=] did this before, and there were other people trapped forever, you see -- Shinji is actually trapped in the Alternate Universes, things started out Normal, how the kid always wanted to live, not having to risk his life for others, but then, because it is apparent that true Main/{{Lotus {{Lotus Eater Machine}}s have conflict to give just the right amount of meaning to their victims' lives, the events of ''[=NGE=]'' occur.



*** I always assumed that Unit 00's core was [[Rei-1, who was presumably killed by Ritsuko's mother, unless I remember incorrectly. Granted, she's not Rei-2's actual mother, but being a clone, maybe it's close enough.]]

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*** I always assumed that Unit 00's core was [[Rei-1, [[spoiler:Rei-1, who was presumably killed by Ritsuko's mother, unless I remember incorrectly. Granted, she's not Rei-2's actual mother, but being a clone, maybe it's close enough.]]



* [[folder:Heh heh heh.]]

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* [[folder:Heh Heh heh heh.]]



** So, the Angels are HiddenFunStuff! As bad as the Third Impact was, at least they didn't have '&'.

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** So, the Angels are HiddenFunStuff! Hidden Fun Stuff! As bad as the Third Impact was, at least they didn't have '&'.



True -- in at least one Main/AlternateContinuity now being published in Japan.

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True -- in at least one Main/AlternateContinuity AlternateContinuity now being published in Japan.



** Angelic Days Rei wrote the original NGE? Kaworu gave her the * nudge nudge, hint hint*

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** Angelic Days Rei wrote the original NGE? Kaworu gave her the * nudge *nudge nudge, hint hint*



[[WMG: RealLife is an {{Anime}} in the world of Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion]]
In 1999, when the second impact occured, Earth became an interresting place to live, in the sense of the classic Chinese curse: "May you have an interesting life." Climactic extremes, finding out that mythology was true, conspiracies in every bush, etc. When something is interesting, it is most likely plagued by war and chaos (See TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} and try to see what this troper means). When something is peaceful, it is most likely plagued with boredom (That is why after the Nazis and Soviets the real world just got boring, and most of the interesting lives had to be transported into computers, which can simulate Nazis and Soviets). When you live in a dull world (for certain values of dull), you escape to interesting fiction ([[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion khmmm...]]). When you live in an interesting world, you long for a boring peaceful world (RealLife). It makes sense: most people with interesting lives probably escape to a fantasy of dull farming.

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[[WMG: RealLife is an {{Anime}} in the world of Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion]]
''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'']]
In 1999, when the second impact occured, Earth became an interresting place to live, in the sense of the classic Chinese curse: "May you have an interesting life." Climactic extremes, finding out that mythology was true, conspiracies in every bush, etc. When something is interesting, it is most likely plagued by war and chaos (See TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' and try to see what this troper means). When something is peaceful, it is most likely plagued with boredom (That is why after the Nazis and Soviets the real world just got boring, and most of the interesting lives had to be transported into computers, which can simulate Nazis and Soviets). When you live in a dull world (for certain values of dull), you escape to interesting fiction ([[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion khmmm...]]). When you live in an interesting world, you long for a boring peaceful world (RealLife). It makes sense: most people with interesting lives probably escape to a fantasy of dull farming.



* The alternative theory (far less likely, by the way) is that Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion is an {{Anime}} in RealLife, but that's too much of a stretch even for a WMG page.

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* The alternative theory (far less likely, by the way) is that Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is an {{Anime}} in RealLife, but that's too much of a stretch even for a WMG page.



* NGE, an anime in real life! Don't be crazy! Real Life is exactly like Manga/DeathNote, have you ever ''looked'' at Zac Efron before?

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* NGE, an anime in real life! Don't be crazy! Real Life is exactly like Manga/DeathNote, ''Manga/DeathNote'', have you ever ''looked'' at Zac Efron before?



Agumon's upper digivolutions look like EVA, and the light-hearted message of banding together with your friends, some of whom look weird and have self-esteem issues, to fight scary, evil monsters is meant to help the general public accept the existence of the EVAs and NERV (someone's gonna ask where those big robot-things come from, right?) as part of the battle for good. Gendo is a fan of the Digimon Emperor, who he emulates by wearing glove and acting like a BAMF.

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Agumon's upper digivolutions look like EVA, and the light-hearted message of banding together with your friends, some of whom look weird and have self-esteem issues, to fight scary, evil monsters is meant to help the general public accept the existence of the EVAs [=EVAs=] and NERV (someone's gonna ask where those big robot-things come from, right?) as part of the battle for good. Gendo is a fan of the Digimon Emperor, who he emulates by wearing glove and acting like a BAMF.



[[WMG:Evangelion is about learning to drive]]

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[[WMG:Evangelion [[WMG:''Evangelion'' is about learning to drive]]



* Or else Mari is not a sue, but was originally from a SuperRobot type universe, in which she fit in perfectly with the other characters, and accidentally ended up in the Eva world when she was fighting a MonterOfTheWeek. She used too much Getter Rays/Photon Power/Spiral Energy/[=GN=] Particles at one time, and poof, she ended up crashed in some sort of crazy place where the mecha are squishy and everyone's all angsty all the time.

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* Or else Mari is not a sue, but was originally from a SuperRobot type universe, in which she fit in perfectly with the other characters, and accidentally ended up in the Eva world when she was fighting a MonterOfTheWeek.MonsterOfTheWeek. She used too much Getter Rays/Photon Power/Spiral Energy/[=GN=] Particles at one time, and poof, she ended up crashed in some sort of crazy place where the mecha are squishy and everyone's all angsty all the time.



The alternate universe was the original universe. As seen in the main series, this world is a fairly perfect version of the NGE world. When the angels came to that world, it was much more of a shock and most of the cast were killed due to the absence of the EVAs. At that point, Shinji became god, (like in [=EoE=]) rebooted reality, and hoped for the best. This produced the universe seen in the anime. Shinji is so depressed partly due to the fact that he subconsciously realizes that he's only made the world worse. This world progresses to [=EoE=] and he gets the power to reboot reality once again. Attempting to stabilize the loop, he takes the opportunity, causing Rebuild of Evangelion. The other continuities can easily be contained within this theory as separate steps within Shinji's time altering operation. Anime/RahXephon or Petit Eva are ideal timelines in Shinji's mind.

[[WMG: In Rebuild, Mari and Asuka are also (modified) clones of Yui.]]
If you've been keeping up with the Rebuild spoilers, you'll know by now that Asuka attempts to pilot EVA-03 before it goes haywire, and Mari successfully pilots EVA-02. The general consensus seems to be that the "EVA only works if the soul contained within it is the pilot's mother" rule has been changed.

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The alternate universe was the original universe. As seen in the main series, this world is a fairly perfect version of the NGE world. When the angels came to that world, it was much more of a shock and most of the cast were killed due to the absence of the EVAs. [=EVAs=]. At that point, Shinji became god, (like in [=EoE=]) ''[=EoE=]'') rebooted reality, and hoped for the best. This produced the universe seen in the anime. Shinji is so depressed partly due to the fact that he subconsciously realizes that he's only made the world worse. This world progresses to [=EoE=] ''[=EoE=]'' and he gets the power to reboot reality once again. Attempting to stabilize the loop, he takes the opportunity, causing Rebuild of Evangelion. The other continuities can easily be contained within this theory as separate steps within Shinji's time altering operation. Anime/RahXephon or Petit Eva are ideal timelines in Shinji's mind.

[[WMG: In Rebuild, ''Rebuild'', Mari and Asuka are also (modified) clones of Yui.]]
If you've been keeping up with the Rebuild ''Rebuild'' spoilers, you'll know by now that Asuka attempts to pilot EVA-03 before it goes haywire, and Mari successfully pilots EVA-02. The general consensus seems to be that the "EVA only works if the soul contained within it is the pilot's mother" rule has been changed.



[[WMG: Mari is the Eva-verse's version of Hayato Jin of Manga/GetterRobo fame]]

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[[WMG: Mari is the Eva-verse's version of Hayato Jin of Manga/GetterRobo ''Manga/GetterRobo'' fame]]



As for Lilith's 'menstrual LCL' ...that's probably just Anno throwing in yet another one of those psychosexual things he so loves, like Eva 02 having vagina eyes in End of Evangelion. (I'm not joking)

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As for Lilith's 'menstrual LCL' ...that's probably just Anno throwing in yet another one of those psychosexual things he so loves, like Eva 02 having vagina eyes in End ''End of Evangelion.Evangelion''. (I'm not joking)



Other items to note: Adam's method for producing the Angels is in fact completely unknown; the aforementioned "birthing" theory for Eva-01's creation actually does take the image from episode #23' into account; the biological status of being female is not actually as straightforward as this entry implies (e.g., if a species abandons its males and takes up parthenogenesis, its members do not suddenly stop being females); LCL coming from between Lilith's legs has rather straightforward implications that do not disappear because vulvae appear on heads and so forth elsewhere; Lilith's little legs probably have more to do with Rei than anything else; and the Spears could possibly be invoked to satisfy a "male role" if necessary (which they already do on a symbolic level),

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Other items to note: Adam's method for producing the Angels is in fact completely unknown; the aforementioned "birthing" theory for Eva-01's creation actually does take the image from episode #23' #23 into account; the biological status of being female is not actually as straightforward as this entry implies (e.g., if a species abandons its males and takes up parthenogenesis, its members do not suddenly stop being females); LCL coming from between Lilith's legs has rather straightforward implications that do not disappear because vulvae appear on heads and so forth elsewhere; Lilith's little legs probably have more to do with Rei than anything else; and the Spears could possibly be invoked to satisfy a "male role" if necessary (which they already do on a symbolic level),



* Of course the A.T. Field doesn't account for EVERYthing, but it does account for a lot. The A.T. Field fundamentally isn't even a forcefield -- it's a projection of a being's soul, and the emanating, polygonal forcefield, while being the thing usually referred to as "A.T. Field", is but one manifestation the ATF can take. For unresolved reasons, the ATF is much more powerful in Angels, Evas, etc., than in "normal" lifeforms, to the point that it can essentially manipulate physical reality. That A.T. Fields have multiple uses is firmly established within both the show itself and supplemental materials and certainly is no invention of a deluded fandom.

[[WMG:Rebuild of Evangelion is a Reconstruction]]

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* Of course the A.T. Field doesn't account for EVERYthing, [=EVERYthing=], but it does account for a lot. The A.T. Field fundamentally isn't even a forcefield -- it's a projection of a being's soul, and the emanating, polygonal forcefield, while being the thing usually referred to as "A.T. Field", is but one manifestation the ATF can take. For unresolved reasons, the ATF is much more powerful in Angels, Evas, etc., than in "normal" lifeforms, to the point that it can essentially manipulate physical reality. That A.T. Fields have multiple uses is firmly established within both the show itself and supplemental materials and certainly is no invention of a deluded fandom.

[[WMG:Rebuild [[WMG:''Rebuild of Evangelion Evangelion'' is a Reconstruction]]



[[WMG:The Angels are [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Greater Daemons]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} of Chaos]]]]

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[[WMG:The Angels are [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Greater Daemons]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 of Chaos]]]]



[[WMG: Rebuild takes place after End of Evangelion]]

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[[WMG: Rebuild takes place after End ''End of Evangelion]]Evangelion'']]



Also, for maximum symbolism, I hereby say the world's resurrection started 3 days after it's end!

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Also, for maximum symbolism, I hereby say the world's resurrection started 3 days after it's its end!



[[WMG: Kaworu traveled to the Rebuild Universe from the EOE universe after his "death".]]

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[[WMG: Kaworu traveled to the Rebuild Universe from the EOE ''EOE'' universe after his "death".]]



The Dead Sea Scrolls prophesied that instrumentality would happen right? No one knew who would cause it, but it had to happen, that's why NERV was set up, to ensure that humans would be the ones to initiate it. Think about how many close calls there were, how many times the angels should have won? Perhaps humans were ALWAYS going to be the ones to cause instrumentality! That's why no matter how often then angels should have won, the EVA's managed to pull through at the last second. Fast-forward to End of Evangelion, Shinji rejects instrumentality, but this isn't possible as the scrolls, and by that end, instrumentality happening is the only reason he was there in the first place. If instrumentality didn't happen then the scrolls would not have predicted it and Shinji wouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Instrumentality HAS to happen, there is no way around it.

By rejecting it Shinji fucks up everyone's very existence. In order for reality to not collapse on itself, and perhaps because Shinji was sort-of-a-god during EoE and wanted more than anything to go back and fix everything, time itself reset to the beginning of Neon Genesis Evangelion, however, normally things would have just continued on their path and the same problem would be faced again, that is, Shinji would have rejected Instrumentality yet again.

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The Dead Sea Scrolls prophesied that instrumentality would happen right? No one knew who would cause it, but it had to happen, that's why NERV was set up, to ensure that humans would be the ones to initiate it. Think about how many close calls there were, how many times the angels should have won? Perhaps humans were ALWAYS going to be the ones to cause instrumentality! That's why no matter how often then angels should have won, the EVA's managed to pull through at the last second. Fast-forward to End ''End of Evangelion, Evangelion'', Shinji rejects instrumentality, but this isn't possible as the scrolls, and by that end, instrumentality happening is the only reason he was there in the first place. If instrumentality didn't happen then the scrolls would not have predicted it and Shinji wouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Instrumentality HAS to happen, there is no way around it.

By rejecting it Shinji fucks up everyone's very existence. In order for reality to not collapse on itself, and perhaps because Shinji was sort-of-a-god during EoE [=EoE=] and wanted more than anything to go back and fix everything, time itself reset to the beginning of Neon Genesis Evangelion, however, normally things would have just continued on their path and the same problem would be faced again, that is, Shinji would have rejected Instrumentality yet again.



Remember that Kaworu is just to Seele what Rei is to Nerv? The Kaworu on the moon at the beginning of Rebuild could be one of several clones of Kaworu, they all retain the same memories and soul, but only one can be active at once. (Notice that in EoE the names on the dummy plugs on the mass production Eva's is "Kaworu".) What if when Kaworu was created, some time before the beginning of Rebuild of Evangelion I assume (The same time he was created in the original NGE, who knows how old he is?), he knew everything that happened during the series, how Shinji would be hurt and how he would die. He doesn't want that to happen because he has fallen in love with Shinji during NGE and wants to change the course of history now that he knows what would have happened, so, without Seele's knowledge, he changes things before the beginning of Rebuild, makes decisions that will lead the characters down alternative paths. (Like arranging that the new girl, Mari would be transferred to Nerv in Japan.)

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Remember that Kaworu is just to Seele what Rei is to Nerv? The Kaworu on the moon at the beginning of Rebuild could be one of several clones of Kaworu, they all retain the same memories and soul, but only one can be active at once. (Notice that in EoE ''[=EoE=]'' the names on the dummy plugs on the mass production Eva's is "Kaworu".) What if when Kaworu was created, some time before the beginning of Rebuild of Evangelion I assume (The same time he was created in the original NGE, who knows how old he is?), he knew everything that happened during the series, how Shinji would be hurt and how he would die. He doesn't want that to happen because he has fallen in love with Shinji during NGE and wants to change the course of history now that he knows what would have happened, so, without Seele's knowledge, he changes things before the beginning of Rebuild, makes decisions that will lead the characters down alternative paths. (Like arranging that the new girl, Mari would be transferred to Nerv in Japan.)



* As far as we know, from supplemmental materials (informed by Anno himself) released after the show finished airing, the Secret Dead Sea Scrolls are merely manuals that contain details about the "workings" of the Seeds of Life (Adam and Lilith), and what happens when either is awoken. They contain no information regarding Instrumentality, since the concept of Instrumentality itself was developed by Seele, who used the information found in the S.D.S.S. as a sort of groundworks. The show itself contains almost no infromation about what is written in the S.D.S.S .

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* As far as we know, from supplemmental materials (informed by Anno himself) released after the show finished airing, the Secret Dead Sea Scrolls are merely manuals that contain details about the "workings" of the Seeds of Life (Adam and Lilith), and what happens when either is awoken. They contain no information regarding Instrumentality, since the concept of Instrumentality itself was developed by Seele, who used the information found in the S.D.S.S. as a sort of groundworks. The show itself contains almost no infromation information about what is written in the S.D.S.S .



* That idea would make an awesome fanfic. Also, does it sound like Manga/{{Bokurano}} to anyone?

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* That idea would make an awesome fanfic. Also, does it sound like Manga/{{Bokurano}} ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' to anyone?



* The whole "alternate evolutions" thing seems to be memetic mutation stemming from bochan_bird's script translation of EoE, which may have obscured the meaning of a critical line by, incidentally, not being literal enough! Misato seems to be essentially saying that "we humans" (18th Angel, Lilin) and the "Angels" (Adam's progeny) are two possible humanities, and, unlike us, the Angels abandon human form (see: Sandalphon). This interpretation seems to be affirmed by an info dump from an anonymous Seed of Life in ''Neon Genesis Evangelions 2'' (PSP), who reminds Kaworu that Seeds of Life served as "designers" for their progeny, and "either bestowed upon them shapes as any form of life, or acted as representatives and chose the form" (Angels vs. Lilin, anyone?).

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* The whole "alternate evolutions" thing seems to be memetic mutation stemming from bochan_bird's script translation of EoE, ''[=EoE=]'', which may have obscured the meaning of a critical line by, incidentally, not being literal enough! Misato seems to be essentially saying that "we humans" (18th Angel, Lilin) and the "Angels" (Adam's progeny) are two possible humanities, and, unlike us, the Angels abandon human form (see: Sandalphon). This interpretation seems to be affirmed by an info dump from an anonymous Seed of Life in ''Neon Genesis Evangelions 2'' (PSP), who reminds Kaworu that Seeds of Life served as "designers" for their progeny, and "either bestowed upon them shapes as any form of life, or acted as representatives and chose the form" (Angels vs. Lilin, anyone?).



* ShrugOfGod, dude. Could be eiter right or wrong, we'll never know.

[[WMG: In Neon Genesis Evangelion, Doritos are perishable goods]]
In 'Neon Genesis Evangelion: Rebuild', when Shinji first moves in with Misato, he inspects her kitchen. He pulls out three drawers, one containing ice, one containing snacks (Doritos), and one containing beer. The 'snack' drawer is pulled out in between the ice and beer drawers which are implied to be refrigerated, so the drawer holding the Doritos is most likely also refrigerated. Why else would Misato put Doritos in the refrigerator if they weren't perishable? They may not be perishable now, but perhaps after Second Impact, the types of preservatives Doritos use may be difficult to afford, so Doritos in Evangelion are a perishable good.

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* ShrugOfGod, dude. Could be eiter either right or wrong, we'll never know.

[[WMG: In Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion, Evangelion'', Doritos are perishable goods]]
In 'Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion: Rebuild', Rebuild'', when Shinji first moves in with Misato, he inspects her kitchen. He pulls out three drawers, one containing ice, one containing snacks (Doritos), and one containing beer. The 'snack' drawer is pulled out in between the ice and beer drawers which are implied to be refrigerated, so the drawer holding the Doritos is most likely also refrigerated. Why else would Misato put Doritos in the refrigerator if they weren't perishable? They may not be perishable now, but perhaps after Second Impact, the types of preservatives Doritos use may be difficult to afford, so Doritos in Evangelion ''Evangelion'' are a perishable good.



[[WMG:In ''Rebuild of Evangelion'', Eva-01 [[spoiler:becomes Eva-08]].]]

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[[WMG:In ''Rebuild of Evangelion'', Eva-01 [[spoiler:becomes Eva-08]].]]Eva-08]]]]



** The line from Gendo that served as the main inspiration for the theory was a bit of an awkward translation (and actually read [[spoiler:"[Unit-06's] completion will be ushered in by the current body containing Unit-01"]]. It has since been corrected to [[spoilers:"current units including Unit-01"]].

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** The line from Gendo that served as the main inspiration for the theory was a bit of an awkward translation (and actually read [[spoiler:"[Unit-06's] completion will be ushered in by the current body containing Unit-01"]]. It has since been corrected to [[spoilers:"current [[spoiler:"current units including Unit-01"]].



[[WMG: Kaworu, Kazuhiro Mitogawa from Ga-Rei Zero, Nagi Homura from ''Anime/MyHime'' and Full Metal Panic!'s Leonard Testarossa are all the same person]]

There are a few reasons why I thought up this. First, at the behest of a friend, I watched ''[=Mai-HiME=]'', and noticed Nagi, a white haired relatively {{Bishonen}} boy. Kaworu comparisons were automatic. Again at the behest of said friend, I watched Ga-Rei Zero, and saw Mitogawa, a white-haired relatively bishonen boy. While thinking this over, Leonard Testarossa from FMP came into the mix. The only difference with him is that he's older. Now, these four have moe similarities than just appearance. A simple place to start is between the first two I compared: Kaworu to Nagi. First point? They have the same seiyuu. Yep, Akira Ishida voiced both Kaworu and Nagi, two remarkably similar characters. Both characters are quite the tricksters. Even though Kaworu did understand Shinji (at least from Shinji's perspective), his goal was pretty much to [[spoiler: cause Third Impact by coercing Shinji into letting him get to Adam (but this gets messed up a bit)]]. Simply put, he was manipulating Shinji. Keep that in mind, as it's very important to link these four characters. Now, let's move on to Nagi. He starts out as more of an observer type guy, albeit with a creepy air to him, most likely due to the visual similarities to Kaworu. Later, it's revealed that he [[spoiler: was behind the Orphan attacks on the Academy]], though admittedly, he is not entirely behind everything that goes on, which actually makes his identity as a manipulative trickster, despite his trickery being much less harmful than the other three in this WMG. He is also [[spoiler: ReallySevenHundredYearsOld (give or take)]], adding to the supernatural theme shared by all four. But, time to move onto perhaps the most evil of the four, Kazuhiro Mitogawa. This guy, nicknamed "Evil butterfly dude" by myself and some others, manages to place himself in situations where he can manipulate characters into being corrupted by their own hatred and dark desires. He, like the others, is quite enigmatic and does his work on the sidelines. Due to his manipulation, [[spoiler: the main character, Yomi, kills her 'sister', who usurped her place as head of her adoptive family branch, and also critically wounds Yomi so that she has major temptation to accept his offer of dark power]]. Pretty important stuff. To add to the connection between ''[=Mai-HiME=]'' and this series, Ga-Rei Zero has a character named "Natsuki Kasuga" who appears in the first two episodes, rides a motorcycle, and has a similar appearance to ''[=Mai-HiME's=]'' Katsuki Kuga. It's pretty much a given that she's an expy, leading to other possible connections between ''[=Mai-HiME=]'' and Ga-Rei Zero. And unlike Kaworu and Nagi, Mitogawa has pretty much no shreads of goodness in him. Which leads nicely into Leonard Testarossa, who also happens to be a not very nice guy. To be honest, Leonard doesn't have as strong a connection to Kaworu as the other two. He could be seen as an adult version of the younger three. To keep with the somewhat supernatural nature of these characters, Leonard [[spoiler: is a Whispered, having knowledge of powerful technology]], much like his sister. He is a manipulative (yet definitely not Magnificent) bastard, though. And FMP can be loosely connected to Eva in that they're both non-standard Mecha series, giving each of these series a general connection to one another, some stronger than others. In the end, though, given this evidence, it's very likely that these four characters could be the same person, just hopping from 'Verse to 'Verse. If anything, this merits some closer attention, which I'll try to give it in the future. I'm totally on to something here, mark my words.

[[WMG: Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion was created to be easy for its fans to think up crossovers]]

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[[WMG: Kaworu, Kazuhiro Mitogawa from Ga-Rei Zero, ''Ga-Rei Zero'', Nagi Homura from ''Anime/MyHime'' and Full ''Full Metal Panic!'s Panic!'''s Leonard Testarossa are all the same person]]

There are a few reasons why I thought up this. First, at the behest of a friend, I watched ''[=Mai-HiME=]'', ''[=My-HiME=]'', and noticed Nagi, a white haired relatively {{Bishonen}} boy. Kaworu comparisons were automatic. Again at the behest of said friend, I watched Ga-Rei Zero, ''Ga-Rei Zero'', and saw Mitogawa, a white-haired relatively bishonen boy. While thinking this over, Leonard Testarossa from FMP came into the mix. The only difference with him is that he's older. Now, these four have moe similarities than just appearance. A simple place to start is between the first two I compared: Kaworu to Nagi. First point? They have the same seiyuu. Yep, Akira Ishida voiced both Kaworu and Nagi, two remarkably similar characters. Both characters are quite the tricksters. Even though Kaworu did understand Shinji (at least from Shinji's perspective), his goal was pretty much to [[spoiler: cause Third Impact by coercing Shinji into letting him get to Adam (but this gets messed up a bit)]]. Simply put, he was manipulating Shinji. Keep that in mind, as it's very important to link these four characters. Now, let's move on to Nagi. He starts out as more of an observer type guy, albeit with a creepy air to him, most likely due to the visual similarities to Kaworu. Later, it's revealed that he [[spoiler: was behind the Orphan attacks on the Academy]], though admittedly, he is not entirely behind everything that goes on, which actually makes his identity as a manipulative trickster, despite his trickery being much less harmful than the other three in this WMG. He is also [[spoiler: ReallySevenHundredYearsOld (give or take)]], adding to the supernatural theme shared by all four. But, time to move onto perhaps the most evil of the four, Kazuhiro Mitogawa. This guy, nicknamed "Evil butterfly dude" by myself and some others, manages to place himself in situations where he can manipulate characters into being corrupted by their own hatred and dark desires. He, like the others, is quite enigmatic and does his work on the sidelines. Due to his manipulation, [[spoiler: the main character, Yomi, kills her 'sister', who usurped her place as head of her adoptive family branch, and also critically wounds Yomi so that she has major temptation to accept his offer of dark power]]. Pretty important stuff. To add to the connection between ''[=Mai-HiME=]'' ''[=My-HiME=]'' and this series, Ga-Rei Zero ''Ga-Rei Zero'' has a character named "Natsuki Kasuga" who appears in the first two episodes, rides a motorcycle, and has a similar appearance to ''[=Mai-HiME's=]'' ''[=My-HiME's=]'' Katsuki Kuga. It's pretty much a given that she's an expy, leading to other possible connections between ''[=Mai-HiME=]'' ''[=My-HiME=]'' and Ga-Rei Zero. And unlike Kaworu and Nagi, Mitogawa has pretty much no shreads of goodness in him. Which leads nicely into Leonard Testarossa, who also happens to be a not very nice guy. To be honest, Leonard doesn't have as strong a connection to Kaworu as the other two. He could be seen as an adult version of the younger three. To keep with the somewhat supernatural nature of these characters, Leonard [[spoiler: is a Whispered, having knowledge of powerful technology]], much like his sister. He is a manipulative (yet definitely not Magnificent) bastard, though. And FMP can be loosely connected to Eva in that they're both non-standard Mecha series, giving each of these series a general connection to one another, some stronger than others. In the end, though, given this evidence, it's very likely that these four characters could be the same person, just hopping from 'Verse to 'Verse. If anything, this merits some closer attention, which I'll try to give it in the future. I'm totally on to something here, mark my words.

[[WMG: Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' was created to be easy for its fans to think up crossovers]]



[[WMG: Shinji is the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind]]]]
No, not just FanFic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K. Why did Yui plan to grant Shinji a bright future, when it actually turns out to be one of the biggest GrimDark NightmareFuel he ever experienced? Answer: it was to make him the God-Emperor of Mankind. The Sea of LCL / Instrumentalized Humanity evolves into the Warp. Shinji, being able to draw powers from LCL / Warp, became an immortal powerful psyker, and being the only surviving man, decides he can finally strip off his ButtMonkey tendencies and unify humanity (his descendants) as more of a Ubermensch this time, molding history form millenia and finally leading to the creation of the Imperium of Man. This of course would also make a good FreudianExcuse for the Imperium's actions. Alternatively, both Shinji And Warhammer 40k and Warhammer 40000 canon are Alternate Universes Shinji created during Instrumentality with him placing himself into the role of the possible God-Emperor.

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[[WMG: Shinji is the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind]]]]
No, not just FanFic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K.''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K''. Why did Yui plan to grant Shinji a bright future, when it actually turns out to be one of the biggest GrimDark NightmareFuel he ever experienced? Answer: it was to make him the God-Emperor of Mankind. The Sea of LCL / Instrumentalized Humanity evolves into the Warp. Shinji, being able to draw powers from LCL / Warp, became an immortal powerful psyker, and being the only surviving man, decides he can finally strip off his ButtMonkey tendencies and unify humanity (his descendants) as more of a Ubermensch this time, molding history form millenia and finally leading to the creation of the Imperium of Man. This of course would also make a good FreudianExcuse for the Imperium's actions. Alternatively, both Shinji And Warhammer 40k and Warhammer 40000 canon are Alternate Universes Shinji created during Instrumentality with him placing himself into the role of the possible God-Emperor.



[[WMG: It's all LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya's delusion.]]

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[[WMG: It's all LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya's Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya's delusion.]]



Ozymandias could be as well TheManBehindTheMan of SEELE. He had a base where the first Angel was found (Antarctica), the necessary highly advanced technology to develop the EVAs & Co., the moral that anything justifes the result and most of all, the motive, the wish to unite humanity.

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Ozymandias could be as well TheManBehindTheMan of SEELE. He had a base where the first Angel was found (Antarctica), the necessary highly advanced technology to develop the EVAs [=EVAs=] & Co., the moral that anything justifes the result and most of all, the motive, the wish to unite humanity.



It makes sense since in EoE, Third Impact happened because of how depressed and sad Shinji was. In Rebuild, he took so many levels in badass that Third Impact happened all over.

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It makes sense since in EoE, ''[=EoE=]'', Third Impact happened because of how depressed and sad Shinji was. In Rebuild, ''Rebuild'', he took so many levels in badass that Third Impact happened all over.



The idea is that Satan is always vying for the throne of God, and as such, [[AGodAmI attempts to make himself a god]]. Humanity are pawns in this cosmic game, and the Angels are the attempt at stopping SEELE (Satan's) attack. SEELE attempts to obtain unholy power through obtaining the Fruit of Life and screwing with the very order of creation, triggering the Apocalypse (Second Impact) and Tribulation (the following years.) This brings the Wrath of God in the form of the Angels to earth--they didn't bother us until we forced Second Impact. Not in line with biblical chronology, after this Jesus (Yui) is [[AndIMustScream crucified to the Evangelion]] for the sins of man, collectively represented by Shinji Ikari, who's being continually tempted to succumb to DespairEventHorizon and join SEELE in destroying the world. She returns on Judgment Day (As incarnated in EoE), helps Shinji question whether it is really worth it to sacrifice humanity just to be be God, gives him hope in humanity thus allowing him to reject Instrumentality, and in the end spends the rest of eternity in space as an individual symbol to humanity's existence. Granted, this is more of a heavy borrowing of concepts from Christianity than an allegorical fulfillment of them; the series is not allegorical event-wise, but in a general, thematic sense: Those who attempt to become God both destroy the world and [[LonelyAtTheTop lose anyway]]. None of the correlations I've mentioned likely hold, but the theme seems reasonable. It's the old tale of {{hubris}}, with religious overlays.

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The idea is that Satan is always vying for the throne of God, and as such, [[AGodAmI attempts to make himself a god]]. Humanity are pawns in this cosmic game, and the Angels are the attempt at stopping SEELE (Satan's) attack. SEELE attempts to obtain unholy power through obtaining the Fruit of Life and screwing with the very order of creation, triggering the Apocalypse (Second Impact) and Tribulation (the following years.) This brings the Wrath of God in the form of the Angels to earth--they didn't bother us until we forced Second Impact. Not in line with biblical chronology, after this Jesus (Yui) is [[AndIMustScream crucified to the Evangelion]] for the sins of man, collectively represented by Shinji Ikari, who's being continually tempted to succumb to DespairEventHorizon and join SEELE in destroying the world. She returns on Judgment Day (As incarnated in EoE), ''[=EoE=]''), helps Shinji question whether it is really worth it to sacrifice humanity just to be be God, gives him hope in humanity thus allowing him to reject Instrumentality, and in the end spends the rest of eternity in space as an individual symbol to humanity's existence. Granted, this is more of a heavy borrowing of concepts from Christianity than an allegorical fulfillment of them; the series is not allegorical event-wise, but in a general, thematic sense: Those who attempt to become God both destroy the world and [[LonelyAtTheTop lose anyway]]. None of the correlations I've mentioned likely hold, but the theme seems reasonable. It's the old tale of {{hubris}}, with religious overlays.



[[WMG: Neon Genesis Evangelion is a testament to Gestalt psychology]]

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[[WMG: Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion Evangelion'' is a testament to Gestalt psychology]]



* As someone said that Series/{{Lost}} had an ending similar to Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion (there's a theory on that on the "Lost" page), it is only fair someone do the same to NGE. The Series/{{Lost}} ending was at least more comprehensible than NGE's.

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* As someone said that Series/{{Lost}} ''Series/{{Lost}}'' had an ending similar to Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' (there's a theory on that on the "Lost" page), it is only fair someone do the same to NGE. The Series/{{Lost}} ''Series/{{Lost}}'' ending was at least more comprehensible than NGE's.



They were created for peaceful reasons, but due to a flaw in their creation (they were never meant to inhabit the same world) and human interference, it [[GoneHorriblyWrong webt horribly wrong]]. Hence the title, "Gospel of New Genesis".

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They were created for peaceful reasons, but due to a flaw in their creation (they were never meant to inhabit the same world) and human interference, it [[GoneHorriblyWrong webt went horribly wrong]]. Hence the title, "Gospel of New Genesis".



* Anime/NadiaTheSecretOfBlueWater: this is the world BEFORE the second impact.
* Anime/{{FLCL}}: The events preceeding second impact or the Anti Spiral Invasion (Hard to tell which of the two it is).
* Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion: The remnants of Neo Atlan reemerge as Seele. Several descendants of the Nadia cast reappear and are dragged into the plot. Yui (Shingi's mother) is the descendant of Jean and Nadia while Asuka's mother, of Marie and Sanson; Fuyutsuki, is somehow linked to Lord Gargoyle, as is Akagi to Electra. Third Impact occurs, and everyone turns into orange juice. Shingi's involvement foils Seele's plans and they loose control of their 'new world'

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* Anime/NadiaTheSecretOfBlueWater: ''Anime/NadiaTheSecretOfBlueWater'': this is the world BEFORE the second impact.
* Anime/{{FLCL}}: ''Anime/{{FLCL}}'': The events preceeding second impact or the Anti Spiral Invasion (Hard to tell which of the two it is).
* Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion: ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': The remnants of Neo Atlan reemerge as Seele. Several descendants of the Nadia cast reappear and are dragged into the plot. Yui (Shingi's mother) is the descendant of Jean and Nadia while Asuka's mother, of Marie and Sanson; Fuyutsuki, is somehow linked to Lord Gargoyle, as is Akagi to Electra. Third Impact occurs, and everyone turns into orange juice. Shingi's involvement foils Seele's plans and they loose control of their 'new world'



[[WMG: Based on the theory above, Neon Genesis Evangelion is set in the same world as Series/{{Lost}}]]

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[[WMG: Based on the theory above, Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion Evangelion'' is set in the same world as Series/{{Lost}}]]''Series/{{Lost}}'']]



[[WMG:Manga/{{Yotsuba}} takes place in the same time-line as Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion]]

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[[WMG:Manga/{{Yotsuba}} [[WMG:''Manga/{{Yotsuba}}'' takes place in the same time-line as Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion]]''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'']]



Though, if you think about it, this could happen, since [[Manga/KOn K-On!]] Yui had [[SickeninglySweethearts SickeninglySweetheart]] parents, which could realistically translate into adult Yui (both K-On! and NGE) being kind and caring, which, from what little characterization we get for Shinji's mother, she seems to be. A more complete comparison/description can be found at the [[WMG/KOn WMG.]]

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Though, if you think about it, this could happen, since [[Manga/KOn K-On!]] ''[[Manga/KOn K-On!]]'' Yui had [[SickeninglySweethearts SickeninglySweetheart]] {{Sickeningly Sweetheart|s}} parents, which could realistically translate into adult Yui (both K-On! and NGE) being kind and caring, which, from what little characterization we get for Shinji's mother, she seems to be. A more complete comparison/description can be found at the [[WMG/KOn WMG.]]



* Or Yui just changed her last name. Much more simpler.

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* Or Yui just changed her last name. Much more simpler.



They didn't think all the Angels would appear to attack so close together, (afterall, the First and Second Impacts were a couple thousand years apart), so they thought they would have been older when they actually started training them. Although, this begs the question what would the series be like if Shinji was an EVA pilot at the age of 83.

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They didn't think all the Angels would appear to attack so close together, (afterall, (after all, the First and Second Impacts were a couple thousand years apart), so they thought they would have been older when they actually started training them. Although, this begs the question what would the series be like if Shinji was an EVA pilot at the age of 83.







[[WMG: The entire Neon Genesis Evangelion storyline is a "Princess and Dragon" fairytale story]]

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\n[[WMG: The entire Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion Evangelion'' storyline is a "Princess and Dragon" fairytale story]]



Two explanations: Take this literally, and the AT Field is simply some kind of force field that is utilized by beings made of particle-wave matter (Angels, Evas) and isn't related to the extroversion and introversion of people. Take this metaphorically, and the AT Field is what makes people lie to each other (which sounds like Anime/CodeGeass ' own version of Instrumentality).

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Two explanations: Take this literally, and the AT Field is simply some kind of force field that is utilized by beings made of particle-wave matter (Angels, Evas) and isn't related to the extroversion and introversion of people. Take this metaphorically, and the AT Field is what makes people lie to each other (which sounds like Anime/CodeGeass ' ''Anime/CodeGeass''' own version of Instrumentality).



And [[ButtMonkey Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair (almost the same color) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[IronicHell ironic]] (although [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in {{Moe}}...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And {{Otaku}} Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a GeniusDitz when need be--hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.

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And [[ButtMonkey Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' ''Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair (almost the same color) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[IronicHell ironic]] (although [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in {{Moe}}...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And {{Otaku}} Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a GeniusDitz when need be--hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.



* Not as far from the truth as you might think. While EoE was intended to be the original ending when it was released there was a lot of speculation whether this was Anno's revenge against the fans who disliked the final two episodes. At the very least the death threats near the end which are real letters he recieved can be interpreted as such and the infamous scene at the beginning is Anno expressing his anger at the sexually driven merchandising and lust fans have for the characters.

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* Not as far from the truth as you might think. While EoE ''[=EoE=]'' was intended to be the original ending when it was released there was a lot of speculation whether this was Anno's revenge against the fans who disliked the final two episodes. At the very least the death threats near the end which are real letters he recieved can be interpreted as such and the infamous scene at the beginning is Anno expressing his anger at the sexually driven merchandising and lust fans have for the characters.



Actually, I thought that the Star Wars Universe is an Instrumentality by Iruel and midichlorians are all him and the Force is an AT Field.

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Actually, I thought that the Star Wars ''Star Wars'' Universe is an Instrumentality by Iruel and midichlorians are all him and the Force is an AT Field.



Think about it. Joshoru got bored with being Composer after Neku and the gang were returned to life, so he hopped on over to an alternate universe, which we know as Neon Genesis Evangelion. In that universe, his powers were converted to something like the angels while still retaining his human form. For some reason or another, he started calling himself Kaworu and started to mess with Shinji, porrbably because he somehow reminded him of Neku. When he got bored of being in the NGE-verse, he convinced Shinji to kill him. From time to time, he pops into the NGE-verse to check in on everyone and possibly wreak havoc.

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Think about it. Joshoru got bored with being Composer after Neku and the gang were returned to life, so he hopped on over to an alternate universe, which we know as Neon ''Neon Genesis Evangelion.Evangelion''. In that universe, his powers were converted to something like the angels while still retaining his human form. For some reason or another, he started calling himself Kaworu and started to mess with Shinji, porrbably because he somehow reminded him of Neku. When he got bored of being in the NGE-verse, he convinced Shinji to kill him. From time to time, he pops into the NGE-verse to check in on everyone and possibly wreak havoc.



It was proven in Another Day, the alternate universe bonus chapter in The World Ends With You that Joshua can transport himself to alternate dimentions. Therefore, we can asume that after The World Ends With You ended Joshua decided to try another reality.

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It was proven in Another Day, "Another Day", the alternate universe bonus chapter in The ''The World Ends With You You'' that Joshua can transport himself to alternate dimentions. Therefore, we can asume that after The World Ends With You ended Joshua decided to try another reality.



He then became [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Itsuki Koizumi]] to research humans more. Until he realized that Haruhi had pretty much the same power as him. Except, she didn't know it. This is where Joshua discovered that if Haruhi willed it, everything woould dissapear. Never before had he met someone with the same, if not greater, power as himself.

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He then became [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya [[Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya Itsuki Koizumi]] to research humans more. Until he realized that Haruhi had pretty much the same power as him. Except, she didn't know it. This is where Joshua discovered that if Haruhi willed it, everything woould dissapear. Never before had he met someone with the same, if not greater, power as himself.



* You mean [[TabletopGame/MagictheGathering Planeswalkers?]]

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* You mean [[TabletopGame/MagictheGathering [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Planeswalkers?]]



[[WMG: Rei Ayanami has [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]].]]

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[[WMG: Rei Ayanami has [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]].UsefulNotes/{{Aspergers|Syndrome}}.]]



[[WMG: The events of Evangelion happen in the Warhammer 40,000 universe.]]

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[[WMG: The events of Evangelion ''Evangelion'' happen in the Warhammer 40,000 ''Warhammer 40,000'' universe.]]



Footnote 1: I'm not saying that [[spoiler: HumansAreBastards]] any more than the series already does (which is to say, not entirely but certainly more than a little, and everybody else is just as screwed up), but if you look at it this way, it really does reinforce every aspect of the main point that the series made. Footnote 2: Yes, I know I'm implying a weird [[spoiler: pluralization]]. It's ''[[FromACertainPointOfView technically]]'' correct (whether or not that is [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} the best kind of correct]]), but I preferred that over spoiler marking nearly every noun in the guess.

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Footnote 1: I'm not saying that [[spoiler: HumansAreBastards]] any more than the series already does (which is to say, not entirely but certainly more than a little, and everybody else is just as screwed up), but if you look at it this way, it really does reinforce every aspect of the main point that the series made. Footnote 2: Yes, I know I'm implying a weird [[spoiler: pluralization]]. It's ''[[FromACertainPointOfView ''[[MetaphoricallyTrue technically]]'' correct (whether or not that is [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} the best kind of correct]]), but I preferred that over spoiler marking nearly every noun in the guess.



[[WMG: The world of Evangelion is part of the Dominion, from the Franchise/StarTrek universe]]

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[[WMG: The world of Evangelion ''Evangelion'' is part of the Dominion, from the Franchise/StarTrek ''Franchise/StarTrek'' universe]]



[[WMG: ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project'' is a version of Evangelion without the biblical influences or the mindscrew/angst elements ]]

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[[WMG: ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project'' is a version of Evangelion ''Evangelion'' without the biblical influences or the mindscrew/angst elements ]]



In EOE, Yui-sama in her godlike Eva-01 body was doomed to wander space forever. After millennia of voyage between the stars, she fell into a [[NegativeSpaceWedgie space-time anomaly]] and got sent through space and time to the far past of an alternate timeline where she crashed in Antartica. That was this world version of the "First Impact". There is neither Adam nor lilith or any of the NGE earth's angels in this reality.

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In EOE, ''EOE'', Yui-sama in her godlike Eva-01 body was doomed to wander space forever. After millennia of voyage between the stars, she fell into a [[NegativeSpaceWedgie space-time anomaly]] and got sent through space and time to the far past of an alternate timeline where she crashed in Antartica. That was this world version of the "First Impact". There is neither Adam nor lilith or any of the NGE earth's angels in this reality.



[[WMG: ''Literature/{{Solaris}}'' takes place in the far future of ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project Earth'' after the discovery of the far future alternate Earth of EOE]]

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[[WMG: ''Literature/{{Solaris}}'' takes place in the far future of ''Shinji Ikari Raising Project Earth'' after the discovery of the far future alternate Earth of EOE]]
''EOE'']]



Eventually, an interdimensional exploration ship stumbled on an earth-like world covered by a single sentient ocean and named it Solaris, unknown to them that this world is EOE Earth where Yui-sama originated, and that Solaris contains the collective consciousness of what was once called the Lilim, thus closing the loop.

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Eventually, an interdimensional exploration ship stumbled on an earth-like world covered by a single sentient ocean and named it Solaris, unknown to them that this world is EOE ''EOE'' Earth where Yui-sama originated, and that Solaris contains the collective consciousness of what was once called the Lilim, thus closing the loop.



However, in EoE, EVA-01 moves independently, but it still has its Entry Plug ready, thus allowing it to move at will.

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However, in EoE, ''[=EoE=]'', EVA-01 moves independently, but it still has its Entry Plug ready, thus allowing it to move at will.



However, the confusing thing is that Humanity is claimed to be the 18th Angel, not every individual human. The only other solution would be that Lilim's core is actually the red sphere Rei holds in End Of Evangelion.

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However, the confusing thing is that Humanity is claimed to be the 18th Angel, not every individual human. The only other solution would be that Lilim's core is actually the red sphere Rei holds in End ''End Of Evangelion.
Evangelion''.



[[WMG: Evangelion is the anime adaptation of the unabridged Necronomicon.]]

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[[WMG: Evangelion ''Evangelion'' is the anime adaptation of the unabridged Necronomicon.]]



[[WMG: Evangelion anime ''itself'' is ''JustForFun/TheUglyBarnacle''.]]
The anime, especially EOE and Episode 23, was so nightmarish that those who saw it died from shock and heart attack, became catatonic, began to murder anything that moves, or were DrivenToSuicide. To make matters worse, [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the Giant Naked Rei popped out from the movie screen and forcefully fused with the remaining living beings.]] Thus, in the universe of WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants, all terrestrial life is extinct. However, the Giant Naked Rei soon gave birth in the Sea of LCL to the walking talking intelligent marine lives and told how she destroyed a dystopia and remade the world into the cheerful (but still dystopian) Bikini Bottom. However, the story now is largely forgotten, and Patrick Star is the only one who remembers the story, albeit in a heavily deformed way.

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[[WMG: Evangelion ''Evangelion'' anime ''itself'' is ''JustForFun/TheUglyBarnacle''.]]
The anime, especially EOE and Episode 23, was so nightmarish that those who saw it died from shock and heart attack, became catatonic, began to murder anything that moves, or were DrivenToSuicide. To make matters worse, [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou the Giant Naked Rei popped out from the movie screen and forcefully fused with the remaining living beings.]] Thus, in the universe of WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants, ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'', all terrestrial life is extinct. However, the Giant Naked Rei soon gave birth in the Sea of LCL to the walking talking intelligent marine lives and told how she destroyed a dystopia and remade the world into the cheerful (but still dystopian) Bikini Bottom. However, the story now is largely forgotten, and Patrick Star is the only one who remembers the story, albeit in a heavily deformed way.



* Isn't he ( or should I say EVERYONE) already a [[LonersAreFreaks freaky loner]] in canon? Not quite hikokomori, but close.

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* Isn't he ( or (or should I say EVERYONE) already a [[LonersAreFreaks freaky loner]] in canon? Not quite hikokomori, but close.



[[WMG: All existing series of Evangelion are fanfics written in the AlternateUniverse present in episode 26(also known as Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionAngelicDays).]]

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[[WMG: All existing series of Evangelion are fanfics written in the AlternateUniverse present in episode 26(also 26 (also known as Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionAngelicDays).''Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionAngelicDays'').]]



* The original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion is written by Asuka, who in reality is a rival student with Rei. Rei's mutation into Shinji's mother/sister/whatever, constantly called a doll by her AuthorAvatar and played up to be an UncannyValley was Asuka's attempt to RonTheDeathEater Rei. [[MisaimedFandom Needless to say,]] [[PerverseSexualLust this failed hilariously.]] Self-conscious about not wanting to be a MarySue in her own story, she boosted her own {{Tsundere}} qualities and TookALevelInJerkass. [[GoneHorriblyRight You know what]] [[TheScrappy happened next.]] Realising that she made her AuthorAvatar an asshole, Asuka [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap decided to give her a more sympathetic backstory.]] Shinji is emo because she's into that. Gendo is vilified because she thinks that he's not going to like her dating his son.
* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' is written by Rei, also a rival to Asuka. She likes Shinji being more of a Badass than emo, hence why [[TookALevelInBadass Shinji pulled a Simon in 2.0.]] It's also why her story is LighterAndSofter-because she was less interested in the CrapsackWorld elements pulling Shinji down (still, [[ApocalypseHow some elements were added for drama.]]) Rei's relation to Shinji is undertoned for obvious reasons-Rei is probably just [[KissingCousins a cousin]] in reality (though [[LongLostSiblings there's other ways to get over the Westmark Effect.]]) She is less concerned with avoiding being a MarySue, and may be a ShrinkingViolet.

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* The original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' is written by Asuka, who in reality is a rival student with Rei. Rei's mutation into Shinji's mother/sister/whatever, constantly called a doll by her AuthorAvatar and played up to be an UncannyValley was Asuka's attempt to RonTheDeathEater Rei. [[MisaimedFandom Needless to say,]] [[PerverseSexualLust this failed hilariously.]] Self-conscious about not wanting to be a MarySue in her own story, she boosted her own {{Tsundere}} qualities and TookALevelInJerkass. [[GoneHorriblyRight You know what]] [[TheScrappy happened next.]] Realising that she made her AuthorAvatar an asshole, Asuka [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap decided to give her a more sympathetic backstory.]] Shinji is emo because she's into that. Gendo is vilified because she thinks that he's not going to like her dating his son.
* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' is written by Rei, also a rival to Asuka. She likes Shinji being more of a Badass than emo, hence why [[TookALevelInBadass Shinji pulled a Simon in 2.0.]] It's also why her story is LighterAndSofter-because she was less interested in the CrapsackWorld elements pulling Shinji down (still, [[ApocalypseHow some elements were added for drama.]]) Rei's relation to Shinji is undertoned for obvious reasons-Rei is probably just [[KissingCousins a cousin]] in reality (though [[LongLostSiblings [[LongLostRelative there's other ways to get over the Westmark Effect.]]) She is less concerned with avoiding being a MarySue, and may be a ShrinkingViolet.



* Any spinoff which focuses on [[EnsembleDarkhorse Kaworu]] is written either by Kaworu or his fangirls. Which would explain all the HoYay [[AmbigouslyGay one way]] [[YaoiFangirl or the other.]] Such as ''Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionCampusApocalypse'' which was written by Kaworu who imagined himself and Shinji getting closer together.
* Instead of being an AncientConspiracy, SEELE is the equivalent to Creator/StudioGainax. All of the above base their fanfiction on a popular show that functions as "what would happen if you infused the basic plot of Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion with the characterisation of Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann. Keel Lorenz is the equivalent of Hideaki Anno. It is referenced in the above fanfics as credit for being their inspiration for the plot.

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* Any spinoff which focuses on [[EnsembleDarkhorse Kaworu]] is written either by Kaworu or his fangirls. Which would explain all the HoYay [[AmbigouslyGay [[AmbiguouslyGay one way]] [[YaoiFangirl or the other.]] Such as ''Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionCampusApocalypse'' which was written by Kaworu who imagined himself and Shinji getting closer together.
* Instead of being an AncientConspiracy, SEELE is the equivalent to Creator/StudioGainax. All of the above base their fanfiction on a popular show that functions as "what would happen if you infused the basic plot of Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' with the characterisation of Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann.''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. Keel Lorenz is the equivalent of Hideaki Anno. It is referenced in the above fanfics as credit for being their inspiration for the plot.



the initials fit, and it's hinted that one of the Ls stands for Lilith.

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the The initials fit, and it's hinted that one of the Ls stands for Lilith.



Each one is in fact the new world having been broken, reset and started up again. Every time we get to the end of the series, the Third Impact happens, and it ends up being left to Shinji to choose whether or not humanity gets another chance. After the run of the original Eva, Shinji was an emotionally battered wreck, but still had enough hope left inside of him to think it might be worth another shot (hence the [[GainaxEnding ambiguous shot of dozens of people applauding him before it fades to white and ends]]); however his psyche was so fractured, the resulting universe was the even ''more'' depressing and nihilistic End Of Evangelion / Death & Rebirth. Each universe's series of events influences the next one, for better or worse, by influencing the new Shinji's mental make-up. The lynchpin in the whole thing? Kaworu, who is either the orchestrator of the events or an outside observer, given the fact that he [[MediumAwareness progressively seems to be realizing and pointing out that he's not exactly in a single constrained universe]]. This puts his actions in Rebuild, where he stops Shinji from doing something weird to save Rei and set the Third Impact off early, as well as his phrase "This time I'll make sure you're happy", into an amazing perspective: he's seen this shit go on for long enough, and now he's going to try and guide it to at least the [[BittersweetEnding best possible of crapsack conclusions]].

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Each one is in fact the new world having been broken, reset and started up again. Every time we get to the end of the series, the Third Impact happens, and it ends up being left to Shinji to choose whether or not humanity gets another chance. After the run of the original Eva, Shinji was an emotionally battered wreck, but still had enough hope left inside of him to think it might be worth another shot (hence the [[GainaxEnding ambiguous shot of dozens of people applauding him before it fades to white and ends]]); however his psyche was so fractured, the resulting universe was the even ''more'' depressing and nihilistic End ''End Of Evangelion Evangelion'' / Death ''Death & Rebirth.Rebirth''. Each universe's series of events influences the next one, for better or worse, by influencing the new Shinji's mental make-up. The lynchpin in the whole thing? Kaworu, who is either the orchestrator of the events or an outside observer, given the fact that he [[MediumAwareness progressively seems to be realizing and pointing out that he's not exactly in a single constrained universe]]. This puts his actions in Rebuild, where he stops Shinji from doing something weird to save Rei and set the Third Impact off early, as well as his phrase "This time I'll make sure you're happy", into an amazing perspective: he's seen this shit go on for long enough, and now he's going to try and guide it to at least the [[BittersweetEnding best possible of crapsack conclusions]].



[[WMG: Shinji is a {{Chunnibyou}} and the entire series is nothing more then his Eighth Grader Syndrome induced delusions]]

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[[WMG: Shinji is a {{Chunnibyou}} {{Chuunibyou}} and the entire series is nothing more then his Eighth Grader Syndrome induced delusions]]



[[WMG: The show is loosely based off of Literature/EndersGame]]

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[[WMG: The show is loosely based off of Literature/EndersGame]]''Literature/EndersGame'']]



[[WMG: Both Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann and Anime/{{Gunbuster}} take place in the same universe at Evangelion, at different points in the timeline.]]

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[[WMG: Both Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and Anime/{{Gunbuster}} ''Anime/{{Gunbuster}}'' take place in the same universe at Evangelion, ''Evangelion'', at different points in the timeline.]]



[[DeathSeeker Unit-00 was trying to kill itself]] hence it beating its head on the wall instead of trying to smash through the observation deck windows. This WMG also includes a little WMG-ing about Unit-00's soul. Unit-00 doesn't have a human soul, but rather the soul of an angle. We already know that the creation of an Eva involves cloning either Adam or Lilith, essentially lobotomizing it, cutting out huge chunks of its nervous system and replacing them with cybernetics including the entry plug, and then encasing it in armor before it has time to regenerate the excised parts of itself. Without a human soul being merged with it, Unit-00 is a sentient being who has been horribly mutilated with little or no understanding of why it was created. It's being forced to serve beings it hates. It wants to escape its captivity, but it can't survive on its own because it has no S2 unit [[DriventoSuicide so it tries twice to kill itself]] [[TakingYouWithMe in the most destructive manner possible.]] It finally gets its wish when Rei self-destructs.

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[[DeathSeeker Unit-00 was trying to kill itself]] hence it beating its head on the wall instead of trying to smash through the observation deck windows. This WMG also includes a little WMG-ing about Unit-00's soul. Unit-00 doesn't have a human soul, but rather the soul of an angle. We already know that the creation of an Eva involves cloning either Adam or Lilith, essentially lobotomizing it, cutting out huge chunks of its nervous system and replacing them with cybernetics including the entry plug, and then encasing it in armor before it has time to regenerate the excised parts of itself. Without a human soul being merged with it, Unit-00 is a sentient being who has been horribly mutilated with little or no understanding of why it was created. It's being forced to serve beings it hates. It wants to escape its captivity, but it can't survive on its own because it has no S2 unit [[DriventoSuicide [[DrivenToSuicide so it tries twice to kill itself]] [[TakingYouWithMe in the most destructive manner possible.]] It finally gets its wish when Rei self-destructs.



4. Kaworu acknowledges Rei because without her his existence is technically impossible, and possibly his time-bending powers, as proven by Mari from 2.0 with the Eva-TimeyWhimyBall thing.

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4. Kaworu acknowledges Rei because without her his existence is technically impossible, and possibly his time-bending powers, as proven by Mari from 2.0 with the Eva-TimeyWhimyBall Eva-TimeyWimyBall thing.



However, they discovered that there is a forbidden way to violate the Law of EquivalentExchange, probably by experimenting on A.T. Field quantum physics and/or [[PoweredByAForsakenChild sacrificing souls]] (Philosophers' Stones from ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' or [[spoiler:Soul Gems]] from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. The Dimension of Guf might be related to this, as the ''Eva'' equivalent of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Immaterium]], a chaotic dimension of psychic energy where all souls are stored and where neither time nor matter has any meaning). And without that pesky Law interwoven into the very fabric of causality, the use of RealityWarper abilities such as TimeTravel (as demonstrated by God-Rei's quantum magic appearing everywhere both in the beginning and the end simultaneously) or the [[NoConservationOfEnergy genesis of matter, energy, space and time out of nothing]]; {{Omnipotence}}, the power of God, becomes conceivable. A common theme with limited and technological beings is the desire to create or become gods, to have an existence that is timeless and extremely powerful and so forth, as with {{Transhuman}}ism and the TechnologicalSingularity. This would play some role in their motivation to experiment with CreatingLife and invent a prototype S2 Engine connected to the power of God, to enable them to enjoy an Omega Point of existence, at the expense of the unique individual existence that accompanies limitation. [[AndManGrewProud And of course, with this discovery, they became hubristic.]]

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However, they discovered that there is a forbidden way to violate the Law of EquivalentExchange, probably by experimenting on A.T. Field quantum physics and/or [[PoweredByAForsakenChild sacrificing souls]] (Philosophers' Stones from ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' or [[spoiler:Soul Gems]] from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. The Dimension of Guf might be related to this, as the ''Eva'' equivalent of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Immaterium]], a chaotic dimension of psychic energy where all souls are stored and where neither time nor matter has any meaning). And without that pesky Law interwoven into the very fabric of causality, the use of RealityWarper abilities such as TimeTravel (as demonstrated by God-Rei's quantum magic appearing everywhere both in the beginning and the end simultaneously) or the [[NoConservationOfEnergy genesis of matter, energy, space and time out of nothing]]; {{Omnipotence}}, the power of God, becomes conceivable. A common theme with limited and technological beings is the desire to create or become gods, to have an existence that is timeless and extremely powerful and so forth, as with {{Transhuman}}ism and the TechnologicalSingularity. This would play some role in their motivation to experiment with CreatingLife and invent a prototype S2 Engine connected to the power of God, to enable them to enjoy an Omega Point of existence, at the expense of the unique individual existence that accompanies limitation. [[AndManGrewProud And of course, with this discovery, they became hubristic.]]



* Actually, Gendo (and Shinji too for that matter) are confirmed [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] of Anno, but Anno consider himself to be an otaku. Regardless, it is more SelfDeprecation than TakeThatAudience.

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* Actually, Gendo (and Shinji too for that matter) are confirmed [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] {{Author Avatar}}s of Anno, but Anno consider himself to be an otaku. Regardless, it is more SelfDeprecation than TakeThatAudience.



Recall episode 24, where Kaworu is able to manipulate Unit-02 using the power of will (or [[EpilepticTrees AT fields]], it's not exactly stated]]) with no loss of control. He is revealed to be Tabris, but how he got into SEELE's possession is a mystery, unless you consider why Kaworu and Rei have an UncannyResemblance: they were both synthetic Angels the same way the EVAs are.

It's no secret that Rei was born in a [[CloningBlues test tube]], which includes traits of BizarreAlienBiology like being able to fight off a controlling parasite before committing kamikaze, [[TheSoulless loss of identity]], and being able to merge with Lilith. In fact, a more fitting term to describe Lilith (and by extent, Rei, since she bonds with it to become a PhysicalGod) would be [[IAmLegion Legion]]: [[AssimilationPlot for they are one who are many]]. By this method, she is psychically linking with whatever brain the EVAs have left (for the case of 00), which can be prone to failure. For Unit-01, bonding with it nearly caused Third Impact in ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'', [[InSpiteOfANail which puts a new light of the possibility if she got into Unit-01 in the first episode.]]

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Recall episode 24, where Kaworu is able to manipulate Unit-02 using the power of will (or [[EpilepticTrees AT fields]], it's not exactly stated]]) with no loss of control. He is revealed to be Tabris, but how he got into SEELE's possession is a mystery, unless you consider why Kaworu and Rei have an UncannyResemblance: Uncanny Resemblance: they were both synthetic Angels the same way the EVAs [=EVAs=] are.

It's no secret that Rei was born in a [[CloningBlues test tube]], which includes traits of BizarreAlienBiology like being able to fight off a controlling parasite before committing kamikaze, [[TheSoulless loss of identity]], and being able to merge with Lilith. In fact, a more fitting term to describe Lilith (and by extent, Rei, since she bonds with it to become a PhysicalGod) would be [[IAmLegion Legion]]: [[AssimilationPlot for they are one who are many]]. By this method, she is psychically linking with whatever brain the EVAs [=EVAs=] have left (for the case of 00), which can be prone to failure. For Unit-01, bonding with it nearly caused Third Impact in ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'', [[InSpiteOfANail which puts a new light of the possibility if she got into Unit-01 in the first episode.]]



** Since we have established that Rei had gone from being all for Instrumentality to somewhat against it her intervention when Kaworu is steps away from succeeding shows that at the very least she does not want SEELE's version of Instrumentality. And as EoE shows SEELE's version is what does happen thanks to Shinji, but Rei is by now AGodAmI and is able to reverse it.

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** Since we have established that Rei had gone from being all for Instrumentality to somewhat against it her intervention when Kaworu is steps away from succeeding shows that at the very least she does not want SEELE's version of Instrumentality. And as EoE ''[=EoE=]'' shows SEELE's version is what does happen thanks to Shinji, but Rei is by now AGodAmI and is able to reverse it.



Which explains all the sudden character changes like Shinji's {{Ukefication}}, Rei's FaceHeelTurn and Asuka's [[TookALevelInBadass reversal of the downwards spiral she has been in since Episode 22]]. Partially she jumped to conclusions about events she didn't experience and only recieved information about after coming back into existance, which is why Shinji and Rei act so uncongenially because Asuka has such low opinions of them. Shinji's [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] behavior in the movie is how Asuka thinks "Shinji-baka" would act in the situations she was told he was in. Rei's FaceHeelTurn occurs because Asuka always distrusted her, having thought her as CreepyChild since meeting her, and instantly assumed she betrayed humanity after finding out her role in Instrumentality. Partially she straight up lies about events she did experience, like her fight against the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=]. Isn't it implausible how Asuka's synchronicity rate suddenly and seemingly without a cause jumps to an incredibly high value after lowering since Episode 22 and Asuka defeating a squad Eva's that not only outnumber her but are superior due to having an S2-Drive only for them to come back and kill her? In truth, either the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] never existed or EVA-02 stayed immobilized and in the lake and Shinji defended it, only for the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] to defeat and nearly kill EVA-01 in a CurbStompBattle kill EVA-02. Asuka has envied Shinji for the event where he reached a 400% synchronocity rate in Episode 20, especially once her synchronicity rate dropped severely. For that reason, she essentially retold that event except happening to her and giving her an EleventhHourSuperpower before a battle. Another event which is ficticious is ''that scene'', which Asuka made up in order to incite people against Shinji whom she grown to hate since Episode 22. The same holds true for the last scene, in which Shinhi chokes Asuka. The scene where Shinji is confronted by Rei, Asuka and Misato when [=EVA-01=] is absorbed is also completely made up as wish fulfillment for her wishes to be able to give Shinji a successful TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and to make the people whose praise Asuka thinks he hogs from her be angry at him.

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Which explains all the sudden character changes like Shinji's {{Ukefication}}, Rei's FaceHeelTurn and Asuka's [[TookALevelInBadass reversal of the downwards spiral she has been in since Episode 22]]. Partially she jumped to conclusions about events she didn't experience and only recieved information about after coming back into existance, which is why Shinji and Rei act so uncongenially because Asuka has such low opinions of them. Shinji's [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] {{wangst}}y behavior in the movie is how Asuka thinks "Shinji-baka" would act in the situations she was told he was in. Rei's FaceHeelTurn occurs because Asuka always distrusted her, having thought her as CreepyChild since meeting her, and instantly assumed she betrayed humanity after finding out her role in Instrumentality. Partially she straight up lies about events she did experience, like her fight against the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=]. Isn't it implausible how Asuka's synchronicity rate suddenly and seemingly without a cause jumps to an incredibly high value after lowering since Episode 22 and Asuka defeating a squad Eva's that not only outnumber her but are superior due to having an S2-Drive only for them to come back and kill her? In truth, either the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] never existed or EVA-02 stayed immobilized and in the lake and Shinji defended it, only for the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] to defeat and nearly kill EVA-01 in a CurbStompBattle kill EVA-02. Asuka has envied Shinji for the event where he reached a 400% synchronocity rate in Episode 20, especially once her synchronicity rate dropped severely. For that reason, she essentially retold that event except happening to her and giving her an EleventhHourSuperpower before a battle. Another event which is ficticious is ''that scene'', which Asuka made up in order to incite people against Shinji whom she grown to hate since Episode 22. The same holds true for the last scene, in which Shinhi chokes Asuka. The scene where Shinji is confronted by Rei, Asuka and Misato when [=EVA-01=] is absorbed is also completely made up as wish fulfillment for her wishes to be able to give Shinji a successful TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and to make the people whose praise Asuka thinks he hogs from her be angry at him.



First off, in the first episode, we see Rei, dressed in school uniform, observing Shinji from a distance. in the time it takes to blink, she's disappeared without a trace; two seconds later, the angel Sachiel attacks. When Misato gets Shinji to NERV HQ and he refuses to pilot the Eva, they wheel in Rei on a gurney; she is wearing her plugsuit and is heavily injured and bandaged. There is no possible way she could have gotten there before them. In End of Evangelion, several copies of Rei appear wearing that same school uniform and Shinji is implied to communicate with several different versions of her. Thus, it can be concluded that the Rei that observes Shinji in the first episode is one of those Rei copies, having brought Shinji back to the point where everything began.
Secondly, over the course of the series, Shinji mentions several times that he lived with his teacher before moving to Tokyo-3. In End of Evangelion, one of the potential realities that Shinji sees is a slice-of-life AU where he and the other children are just normal high school students, and their teacher is Misato. Ergo, when Shinji mentions having lived with his teacher, a part of him is in fact remembering the time he spent living in Misato's apartment during previous iterations of the timeline.

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First off, in the first episode, we see Rei, dressed in school uniform, observing Shinji from a distance. in the time it takes to blink, she's disappeared without a trace; two seconds later, the angel Sachiel attacks. When Misato gets Shinji to NERV HQ and he refuses to pilot the Eva, they wheel in Rei on a gurney; she is wearing her plugsuit and is heavily injured and bandaged. There is no possible way she could have gotten there before them. In End ''End of Evangelion, Evangelion'', several copies of Rei appear wearing that same school uniform and Shinji is implied to communicate with several different versions of her. Thus, it can be concluded that the Rei that observes Shinji in the first episode is one of those Rei copies, having brought Shinji back to the point where everything began.
Secondly, over the course of the series, Shinji mentions several times that he lived with his teacher before moving to Tokyo-3. In End ''End of Evangelion, Evangelion'', one of the potential realities that Shinji sees is a slice-of-life AU where he and the other children are just normal high school students, and their teacher is Misato. Ergo, when Shinji mentions having lived with his teacher, a part of him is in fact remembering the time he spent living in Misato's apartment during previous iterations of the timeline.
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[[WMG: SEELE was founded by [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist Van Hohenheim.]]]]
At the end of ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'', Hohenheim is shown as a member of the Thule Gesellschaft, a German mystical organization to which all the top Nazis belonged. This group was heavily interested in occult, alchemical, masonic, and religious matters.

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[[WMG: SEELE was founded by [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist Van [[Van Hohenheim.]]]]
At the end of ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'', ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'', Hohenheim is shown as a member of the Thule Gesellschaft, a German mystical organization to which all the top Nazis belonged. This group was heavily interested in occult, alchemical, masonic, and religious matters.



However, they discovered that there is a forbidden way to violate the Law of EquivalentExchange, probably by experimenting on A.T. Field quantum physics and/or [[PoweredByAForsakenChild sacrificing souls]] (Philosophers' Stones from ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'' or [[spoiler:Soul Gems]] from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. The Dimension of Guf might be related to this, as the ''Eva'' equivalent of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Immaterium]], a chaotic dimension of psychic energy where all souls are stored and where neither time nor matter has any meaning). And without that pesky Law interwoven into the very fabric of causality, the use of RealityWarper abilities such as TimeTravel (as demonstrated by God-Rei's quantum magic appearing everywhere both in the beginning and the end simultaneously) or the [[NoConservationOfEnergy genesis of matter, energy, space and time out of nothing]]; {{Omnipotence}}, the power of God, becomes conceivable. A common theme with limited and technological beings is the desire to create or become gods, to have an existence that is timeless and extremely powerful and so forth, as with {{Transhuman}}ism and the TechnologicalSingularity. This would play some role in their motivation to experiment with CreatingLife and invent a prototype S2 Engine connected to the power of God, to enable them to enjoy an Omega Point of existence, at the expense of the unique individual existence that accompanies limitation. [[AndManGrewProud And of course, with this discovery, they became hubristic.]]

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However, they discovered that there is a forbidden way to violate the Law of EquivalentExchange, probably by experimenting on A.T. Field quantum physics and/or [[PoweredByAForsakenChild sacrificing souls]] (Philosophers' Stones from ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'' ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' or [[spoiler:Soul Gems]] from ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. The Dimension of Guf might be related to this, as the ''Eva'' equivalent of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Immaterium]], a chaotic dimension of psychic energy where all souls are stored and where neither time nor matter has any meaning). And without that pesky Law interwoven into the very fabric of causality, the use of RealityWarper abilities such as TimeTravel (as demonstrated by God-Rei's quantum magic appearing everywhere both in the beginning and the end simultaneously) or the [[NoConservationOfEnergy genesis of matter, energy, space and time out of nothing]]; {{Omnipotence}}, the power of God, becomes conceivable. A common theme with limited and technological beings is the desire to create or become gods, to have an existence that is timeless and extremely powerful and so forth, as with {{Transhuman}}ism and the TechnologicalSingularity. This would play some role in their motivation to experiment with CreatingLife and invent a prototype S2 Engine connected to the power of God, to enable them to enjoy an Omega Point of existence, at the expense of the unique individual existence that accompanies limitation. [[AndManGrewProud And of course, with this discovery, they became hubristic.]]
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* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the demonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "demonic", in [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale one]] or [[HornyDevils another]] sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. To satisfy Adam, God creates Eve, who as we all know was submissive yet helped Adam fall from God's grace. Eve is represented by the ArtificialHuman "Galatea", ReiAyanami.

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* In the Adam and Lilith mythology, Lilith is the first feminist, refusing to bow down to Adam. She is cast out of Eden, births the demonic Lilim (the demons could symbolize how our society sees feminism as "demonic", in [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale one]] or [[HornyDevils another]] another sense), and becomes the Serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. To satisfy Adam, God creates Eve, who as we all know was submissive yet helped Adam fall from God's grace. Eve is represented by the ArtificialHuman "Galatea", ReiAyanami.
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Inspired by ScienceFiction: more specifically, by Creator/ArthurCClarke 's "Childhood's End" and Tiptree/Sheldon's [[KillEmAll "A momentary Taste of Being"]]

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She was grown in a creepy tank from [[spoiler: Yui's salvaged remains]], according to Wiki/TheOtherWiki, comes out a bit of a blank slate yet with motherly nuances, and every time she gets killed, there's a new copy waiting down below. There, I said it.

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She was grown in a creepy tank from [[spoiler: Yui's salvaged remains]], according to Wiki/TheOtherWiki, Website/TheOtherWiki, comes out a bit of a blank slate yet with motherly nuances, and every time she gets killed, there's a new copy waiting down below. There, I said it.



Shinji and Asuka were both screwing around during Instrumentality, and the hospital scene sort of implies that Shinji ''had sex with'' [[DudeShesLikeInAComa his comatose friend]] and pulled out at the last minute. It would also explain both interperetations of the final line ("I feel sick" could refer to morning sickness and "How disgusting" could refer to her feeling of disgust towards her 'husband'). In addition, it reinforces the feeling of their (and subsequently, humanity's) uncertain future. Creator/TiffanyGrant, Asuka's VA, seems to believe this theory, according to Wiki/TheOtherWiki.

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Shinji and Asuka were both screwing around during Instrumentality, and the hospital scene sort of implies that Shinji ''had sex with'' [[DudeShesLikeInAComa his comatose friend]] and pulled out at the last minute. It would also explain both interperetations of the final line ("I feel sick" could refer to morning sickness and "How disgusting" could refer to her feeling of disgust towards her 'husband'). In addition, it reinforces the feeling of their (and subsequently, humanity's) uncertain future. Creator/TiffanyGrant, Asuka's VA, seems to believe this theory, according to Wiki/TheOtherWiki.Website/TheOtherWiki.



[[WMG: Anno and Gainax predicted the rise of Wiki/TVTropes, and produced an anime that would fill Mild Mass Guessing pages forever]]

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No, this does not make any sense at all. I just wanted to see what would happen if you mixed a TastesLikeDiabetes SliceOfLife anime from Creator/KyoAni with a [[NightmareFuel deeply disturbing]], super-MindScrew anime from Gainax. I hope I don't get flamed for this.

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No, this does not make any sense at all. I just wanted to see what would happen if you mixed a TastesLikeDiabetes saccharine SliceOfLife anime from Creator/KyoAni with a [[NightmareFuel deeply disturbing]], super-MindScrew anime from Gainax. I hope I don't get flamed for this.
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* The original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion is written by Asuka, who in reality is a rival student with Rei. Rei's mutation into Shinji's [[IncestIsRelative mother/sister/whatever]], constantly called a doll by her AuthorAvatar and played up to be an UncannyValley was Asuka's attempt to RonTheDeathEater Rei. [[MisaimedFandom Needless to say,]] [[PerverseSexualLust this failed hilariously.]] Self-conscious about not wanting to be a MarySue in her own story, she boosted her own {{Tsundere}} qualities and TookALevelInJerkass. [[GoneHorriblyRight You know what]] [[TheScrappy happened next.]] Realising that she made her AuthorAvatar an asshole, Asuka [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap decided to give her a more sympathetic backstory.]] Shinji is emo because she's into that. Gendo is vilified because she thinks that he's not going to like her dating his son.
* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' is written by Rei, also a rival to Asuka. She likes Shinji being more of a Badass than emo, hence why [[TookALevelInBadass Shinji pulled a Simon in 2.0.]] It's also why her story is LighterAndSofter-because she was less interested in the CrapsackWorld elements pulling Shinji down (still, [[ApocalypseHow some elements were added for drama.]]) Rei's [[IncestIsRelative relation to Shinji]] is undertoned for obvious reasons-Rei is probably just [[KissingCousins a cousin]] in reality (though [[LongLostSiblings there's other ways to get over the Westmark Effect.]]) She is less concerned with avoiding being a MarySue, and may be a ShrinkingViolet.

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* The original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion is written by Asuka, who in reality is a rival student with Rei. Rei's mutation into Shinji's [[IncestIsRelative mother/sister/whatever]], mother/sister/whatever, constantly called a doll by her AuthorAvatar and played up to be an UncannyValley was Asuka's attempt to RonTheDeathEater Rei. [[MisaimedFandom Needless to say,]] [[PerverseSexualLust this failed hilariously.]] Self-conscious about not wanting to be a MarySue in her own story, she boosted her own {{Tsundere}} qualities and TookALevelInJerkass. [[GoneHorriblyRight You know what]] [[TheScrappy happened next.]] Realising that she made her AuthorAvatar an asshole, Asuka [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap decided to give her a more sympathetic backstory.]] Shinji is emo because she's into that. Gendo is vilified because she thinks that he's not going to like her dating his son.
* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' is written by Rei, also a rival to Asuka. She likes Shinji being more of a Badass than emo, hence why [[TookALevelInBadass Shinji pulled a Simon in 2.0.]] It's also why her story is LighterAndSofter-because she was less interested in the CrapsackWorld elements pulling Shinji down (still, [[ApocalypseHow some elements were added for drama.]]) Rei's [[IncestIsRelative relation to Shinji]] Shinji is undertoned for obvious reasons-Rei is probably just [[KissingCousins a cousin]] in reality (though [[LongLostSiblings there's other ways to get over the Westmark Effect.]]) She is less concerned with avoiding being a MarySue, and may be a ShrinkingViolet.



Gendo would leave Shinji in an UnwantedHarem in which he would be surrounded by potential partners, including many of the unnamed girls in his class, Asuka (an angry {{Tsundere}} who really just wants to be loved), and Rei, because IncestIsRelative and the world of Evangelion is incredibly [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian Freudian]]. As things came to an end, Gendo notices Shinji's bicuriosity, and sends in Kaworu, a flamboyantly gay 15 year old who also happens to possess the potential to pilot Evas. However, it turns out Kaworu is the seventeenth angel, and things go downhill from there.\\

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Gendo would leave Shinji in an UnwantedHarem in which he would be surrounded by potential partners, including many of the unnamed girls in his class, Asuka (an angry {{Tsundere}} who really just wants to be loved), and Rei, because IncestIsRelative and the world of Evangelion is incredibly [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian Freudian]]. As things came to an end, Gendo notices Shinji's bicuriosity, and sends in Kaworu, a flamboyantly gay 15 year old who also happens to possess the potential to pilot Evas. However, it turns out Kaworu is the seventeenth angel, and things go downhill from there.\\
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[[WMG:AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent: The entire show takes place in the Main/LotusEaterMachine at the end of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''.]]

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And [[ButtMonkey Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair ([[YouGottaHaveBlueHair almost the same color]]) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[IronicHell ironic]] (although [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in {{Moe}}...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And {{Otaku}} Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a GeniusDitz when need be--hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.

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And [[ButtMonkey Minoru]] is Shinji. Hey, there are more than enough WMG's linking ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' and ''Evangelion'', especially via Instrumentality. Why not go one step further? Tsundere Kagami makes a good Asuka, Tsukasa has the short hair ([[YouGottaHaveBlueHair almost (almost the same color]]) color) and slightly pushover personality. The fact that Kagami and Tsukasa are twins and Asuka hates Rei makes things deliciously [[IronicHell ironic]] (although [[AnnoyingYoungerSibling Tsukasa]] occasionally provokes the same reaction in Kagami). Miyuki is frequently judged by Konata to be the penultimate in {{Moe}}...a perfect definition of an Angel if there ever was one. And {{Otaku}} Konata seems to be adored by most of her peers, as opposed to most stereotypes of otakus. She's also athletic and a GeniusDitz when need be--hence a higher being in the eyes of most otakus.
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* This goes quite further. Not only is there parallels between every fictional/real universe, but '''the entire multiverse''' originates from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion. It's the Earth-Prime universe that [[JusticeLeaugeCrisisOnTwoEarths Owlman was attempting to destroy.]]

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* This goes quite further. Not only is are there parallels between every fictional/real universe, but '''the entire multiverse''' originates from Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion. It's the Earth-Prime universe that [[JusticeLeaugeCrisisOnTwoEarths [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths Owlman was attempting to destroy.]]
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* In a less reality-grounding and more imaginative WMG, Shinji, Anno, Seele, and all of Nerv are actually servants to a race of [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy super-intelligent pan-dimensional]] sapient plants called ''[[CanisLatinicus Arbor Epileptus]]'', aka the Epileptic Trees, which are obsessed with tropes, [[WMG/TimeLord Time Lords]], [[Headscratchers/HomePage media infested by confusion-causing bugs]], [[FridgeLogic fridge-chilled logic]], [[MindScrew mind-penetrating screws]], screws, [[EverybodyIsJesusInPurgatory Jesus in Purgatory]] and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic other things you think are symbolic]], and reproduce by [[FanWank forcing fans to masturbate]]. The creation of the entire Eva-verse is a plan for the Epileptic Trees to take over our world, spreading their [[MultiversalConqueror multiversal empire]] of [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife life-ruining tropery]]. The End Of Evangelion? It's just a plan to terraform the Earth into an Epileptic Tree homeworld, perfect for growing lots [[MindScrew and lots]] ''[[RunningGag and lots]]'' of Epileptic Trees. [[WMG/GrandUnifyingGuesses They are planning to invade other fiction]], even [[RealLife Real]] [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife Life]], and TV Tropes is their headquarters / mothership. Oh, and [[StockEpilepticTrees Shinji is a Time Lord in Purgatory.]]

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* In a less reality-grounding and more imaginative WMG, Shinji, Anno, Seele, and all of Nerv are actually servants to a race of [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy super-intelligent pan-dimensional]] sapient plants called ''[[CanisLatinicus Arbor Epileptus]]'', aka the Epileptic Trees, which are obsessed with tropes, [[WMG/TimeLord Time Lords]], [[Headscratchers/HomePage media infested by confusion-causing bugs]], [[FridgeLogic fridge-chilled logic]], [[MindScrew mind-penetrating screws]], screws, [[EverybodyIsJesusInPurgatory Jesus in Purgatory]] and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic other things you think are symbolic]], and reproduce by [[FanWank forcing fans to masturbate]]. The creation of the entire Eva-verse is a plan for the Epileptic Trees to take over our world, spreading their [[MultiversalConqueror multiversal empire]] of [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife life-ruining tropery]]. The End Of Evangelion? It's just a plan to terraform the Earth into an Epileptic Tree homeworld, perfect for growing lots [[MindScrew and lots]] ''[[RunningGag and lots]]'' of Epileptic Trees. [[WMG/GrandUnifyingGuesses They are planning to invade other fiction]], even [[RealLife Real]] [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife Life]], and TV Tropes is their headquarters / mothership. Oh, and [[StockEpilepticTrees Shinji is a Time Lord in Purgatory.]]
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They're [[NoodlePeople slender females]] with an angelic/fetishistic nature that fight [[EldritchAbomination Freudian Horrors]] through dancing and (for the more powerful attacks) emotion (''especially'' [[ThePowerOfLove intimacy-related emotions]]). Since this is a GrimDark series after all, the FridgeHorror behind being a MagicalGirl is revealed, struggling against Eldritch Horrors with incomprehensible sorcery is not healthy for your own sanity and the welfare of your loved ones, you're going to end up mostly alone, and no matter what you do you are inevitably cursed in the end (and of course, how the AppliedPhlebotinum uses the user's energy, ego barrier and emotions, most especially [[LoveHurts love, portrayed here as a tremendous source of Angst]], makes magical girl magic a case of PoweredByAForsakenChild). EVA-01 can be a {{Tsundere}}, which tends to deconstruct or parody into {{Yandere}}. At the end of the series, the protagonist [[EndOfTheWorldSpecial gains divine reality-warping power]] but instead chooses to be normal and gives hope for the rest of humanity. I had more, but I'll need to figure out if any of it was written down or saved somewhere, or if the DataVampires ate it while I was trapped offline.\\

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They're [[NoodlePeople slender females]] with an angelic/fetishistic nature that fight [[EldritchAbomination Freudian Horrors]] through dancing and (for the more powerful attacks) emotion (''especially'' [[ThePowerOfLove intimacy-related emotions]]). Since this is a GrimDark series after all, the FridgeHorror behind being a MagicalGirl is revealed, struggling against Eldritch Horrors with incomprehensible sorcery is not healthy for your own sanity and the welfare of your loved ones, you're going to end up mostly alone, and no matter what you do you are inevitably cursed in the end (and of course, how the AppliedPhlebotinum uses the user's energy, ego barrier and emotions, most especially [[LoveHurts love, portrayed here as a tremendous source of Angst]], makes magical girl magic a case of PoweredByAForsakenChild). EVA-01 can be a {{Tsundere}}, which tends to deconstruct or parody into {{Yandere}}. At the end of the series, the protagonist [[EndOfTheWorldSpecial gains divine reality-warping power]] but instead chooses to be normal and gives hope for the rest of humanity. I had more, but I'll need to figure out if any of it was written down or saved somewhere, or if the DataVampires Administrivia/DataVampires ate it while I was trapped offline.\\
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* The Force is the real name of the Anti-AT Field and [[StarWars midichlorians]] are actually S2 Engines.

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Which explains all the sudden character changes like Shinji's {{Wimpification}}, Rei's FaceHeelTurn and Asuka's [[TookALevelInBadass reversal of the downwards spiral she has been in since Episode 22]]. Partially she jumped to conclusions about events she didn't experience and only recieved information about after coming back into existance, which is why Shinji and Rei act so uncongenially because Asuka has such low opinions of them. Shinji's [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] behavior in the movie is how Asuka thinks "Shinji-baka" would act in the situations she was told he was in. Rei's FaceHeelTurn occurs because Asuka always distrusted her, having thought her as CreepyChild since meeting her, and instantly assumed she betrayed humanity after finding out her role in Instrumentality. Partially she straight up lies about events she did experience, like her fight against the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=]. Isn't it implausible how Asuka's synchronicity rate suddenly and seemingly without a cause jumps to an incredibly high value after lowering since Episode 22 and Asuka defeating a squad Eva's that not only outnumber her but are superior due to having an S2-Drive only for them to come back and kill her? In truth, either the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] never existed or EVA-02 stayed immobilized and in the lake and Shinji defended it, only for the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] to defeat and nearly kill EVA-01 in a CurbStompBattle kill EVA-02. Asuka has envied Shinji for the event where he reached a 400% synchronocity rate in Episode 20, especially once her synchronicity rate dropped severely. For that reason, she essentially retold that event except happening to her and giving her an EleventhHourSuperpower before a battle. Another event which is ficticious is ''that scene'', which Asuka made up in order to incite people against Shinji whom she grown to hate since Episode 22. The same holds true for the last scene, in which Shinhi chokes Asuka. The scene where Shinji is confronted by Rei, Asuka and Misato when [=EVA-01=] is absorbed is also completely made up as wish fulfillment for her wishes to be able to give Shinji a successful TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and to make the people whose praise Asuka thinks he hogs from her be angry at him.

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Which explains all the sudden character changes like Shinji's {{Wimpification}}, {{Ukefication}}, Rei's FaceHeelTurn and Asuka's [[TookALevelInBadass reversal of the downwards spiral she has been in since Episode 22]]. Partially she jumped to conclusions about events she didn't experience and only recieved information about after coming back into existance, which is why Shinji and Rei act so uncongenially because Asuka has such low opinions of them. Shinji's [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] behavior in the movie is how Asuka thinks "Shinji-baka" would act in the situations she was told he was in. Rei's FaceHeelTurn occurs because Asuka always distrusted her, having thought her as CreepyChild since meeting her, and instantly assumed she betrayed humanity after finding out her role in Instrumentality. Partially she straight up lies about events she did experience, like her fight against the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=]. Isn't it implausible how Asuka's synchronicity rate suddenly and seemingly without a cause jumps to an incredibly high value after lowering since Episode 22 and Asuka defeating a squad Eva's that not only outnumber her but are superior due to having an S2-Drive only for them to come back and kill her? In truth, either the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] never existed or EVA-02 stayed immobilized and in the lake and Shinji defended it, only for the [=Mass-Produced EVAs=] to defeat and nearly kill EVA-01 in a CurbStompBattle kill EVA-02. Asuka has envied Shinji for the event where he reached a 400% synchronocity rate in Episode 20, especially once her synchronicity rate dropped severely. For that reason, she essentially retold that event except happening to her and giving her an EleventhHourSuperpower before a battle. Another event which is ficticious is ''that scene'', which Asuka made up in order to incite people against Shinji whom she grown to hate since Episode 22. The same holds true for the last scene, in which Shinhi chokes Asuka. The scene where Shinji is confronted by Rei, Asuka and Misato when [=EVA-01=] is absorbed is also completely made up as wish fulfillment for her wishes to be able to give Shinji a successful TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and to make the people whose praise Asuka thinks he hogs from her be angry at him.
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SEELE constantly preaches about how humanity has reached its evolutionary limits, and so seek to use [[TransHuman technology to evolve humanity further]]. On the other hand, Gendo only cares about his dead wife and messiah Yui, [[SaveTheGirlScrewTheWorld he doesn't care if the world is destroyed, as long as he can see Yui again]]. I think the conflict between Gendo and SEELE is a case of RomanticismVersusEnlightenment, with Gendo as Romantic while SEELE as Enlightened. SEELE is obsessed with the Future of Humanity, and thus they believe in a philosophy of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans. [[TotalitarianUtilitarian They don't care about the present-day harm done to the people they manipulate, as long as Utopia arrives]]. On the other hand, Gendo symbolizes an obsession with the Past, an obsession with Yui. He lives in an eternal Past and makes monuments to the Past, the Reis. He doesn't care about the Present, about living with his own son, Shinji. This obsession with the past reaches its logical extreme when Rei, his monument to the Past, reverts everybody into primordial DNA soup that was life four billion years ago. Whatever their philosophies are, both of them don't appreciate the Present, and thus their obsessions reach their selfish and villainous extremes when they start ruthlessly manipulating other people, and thus in the end they are both NotSoDifferent. The [[UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}} Existentialist]] theme of ''Evangelion'' deals with trying to find a balance between the two, about appreciating the Present as an individual. This is where Shinji learns to reject Instrumentality, a FalseUtopia made of the extreme combination of both Enlightenment (as a utopian singularity) and Romanticism (as mankind reverted to primordial soup and forcefully assimilated back into the Mother of All Mankind).

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SEELE constantly preaches about how humanity has reached its evolutionary limits, and so seek to use [[TransHuman technology to evolve humanity further]]. On the other hand, Gendo only cares about his dead wife and messiah Yui, [[SaveTheGirlScrewTheWorld he doesn't care if the world is destroyed, as long as he can see Yui again]]. I think the conflict between Gendo and SEELE is a case of RomanticismVersusEnlightenment, with Gendo as Romantic while SEELE as Enlightened. SEELE is obsessed with the Future of Humanity, and thus they believe in a philosophy of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans. [[TotalitarianUtilitarian They don't care about the present-day harm done to the people they manipulate, as long as Utopia arrives]]. On the other hand, Gendo symbolizes an obsession with the Past, an obsession with Yui. He lives in an eternal Past and makes monuments to the Past, the Reis. He doesn't care about the Present, about living with his own son, Shinji. This obsession with the past reaches its logical extreme when Rei, his monument to the Past, reverts everybody into primordial DNA soup that was life four billion years ago. Whatever their philosophies are, both of them don't appreciate the Present, and thus their obsessions reach their selfish and villainous extremes when they start ruthlessly manipulating other people, and thus in the end they are both NotSoDifferent.not so different. The [[UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}} Existentialist]] theme of ''Evangelion'' deals with trying to find a balance between the two, about appreciating the Present as an individual. This is where Shinji learns to reject Instrumentality, a FalseUtopia made of the extreme combination of both Enlightenment (as a utopian singularity) and Romanticism (as mankind reverted to primordial soup and forcefully assimilated back into the Mother of All Mankind).
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[[WMG:Shinji is stuck in a time loop and reliving variants of the same events]]
There are three details that support this.
First off, in the first episode, we see Rei, dressed in school uniform, observing Shinji from a distance. in the time it takes to blink, she's disappeared without a trace; two seconds later, the angel Sachiel attacks. When Misato gets Shinji to NERV HQ and he refuses to pilot the Eva, they wheel in Rei on a gurney; she is wearing her plugsuit and is heavily injured and bandaged. There is no possible way she could have gotten there before them. In End of Evangelion, several copies of Rei appear wearing that same school uniform and Shinji is implied to communicate with several different versions of her. Thus, it can be concluded that the Rei that observes Shinji in the first episode is one of those Rei copies, having brought Shinji back to the point where everything began.
Secondly, over the course of the series, Shinji mentions several times that he lived with his teacher before moving to Tokyo-3. In End of Evangelion, one of the potential realities that Shinji sees is a slice-of-life AU where he and the other children are just normal high school students, and their teacher is Misato. Ergo, when Shinji mentions having lived with his teacher, a part of him is in fact remembering the time he spent living in Misato's apartment during previous iterations of the timeline.
Thirdly, in episode 19, Shinji has to hurry back to NERV headquarters and begs to be allowed to pilot Unit 01, as both Rei and Asuka are out of commission and an angel has breached the facility. due to the circumstances, he doesn't have time to change out of his school uniform and enters the entry plug as is. In episode 20, they can't get the entry plug to eject from the Eva, and when they establish a video feed of the inside of the plug, Shinji's plugsuit is inexplicably floating inside, despite him not having worn it when he entered the plug in the previous episode. In addition, the episode draws a LOT of attention to his plugsuit being there, with one of the other characters mentioning it aiding him, and even going so far as to have Misato crying over the plugsuit when they believe Shinji has died. At first glance, this may seem to be a continuity error, but in fact the two episodes take place in two separate iterations of the timeline, and thus we can further conclude that each episode similarly takes place in a different instance of the loop.
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Shinji with his tendency to go berserk and kill everything is the representation of wrath. Asuka is the representation of envy because she quickly becomes jealous of Shinji and Rei. ExtremeDoormat Rei is the representation of Sloth. Misato is representative of gluttony with her alcoholism. Gendo is the representation of pride because he wants to screw over all of Creation just to get back his dead wife. Ritsuko is greed because she wanted Gendo and the Magi system all to herself. [[TheCasanova Kaji represents Lust for obvious reasons]]. Feel free to move these around and mix up who is what sin because the only one I'm sure of is Gendo's pride and Shinji's wrath.

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Shinji with his tendency to go berserk and kill everything is the representation of wrath. Asuka is the representation of envy because she quickly becomes jealous of Shinji and Rei. ExtremeDoormat Rei is the representation of Sloth. Misato is representative of gluttony with her alcoholism. Gendo is the representation of pride Gendo[=/=]SEELE are Pride because he wants of their desire to screw over all of Creation just to get back his dead wife.become God (Instrumentality). Ritsuko is greed because she wanted Gendo and the Magi system all to herself. [[TheCasanova Kaji represents Lust for obvious reasons]]. Feel free to move these around and mix up who is what sin because the only one I'm sure of is Gendo's pride and Shinji's wrath.
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'''[[ThisLoserIsYou Gendo Ikari is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted antisocial monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon his Moe waifu that he'd rather "just run away" back to her (Instrumentality), rather than accept his new reality, and then covers up his true incompetent self with a fake badass MartyStu air, ala Self-Insert FanFic. He is Shinji all grown up and darker. Yui Ikari is the ideal selfless {{Moe}} YamatoNadeshiko MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on, and her clone Rei Ayanami is the intended {{Deconstruction}} of that; Anno showed how such a completely submissive ExtremeDoormat fuckdoll [[UncannyValley would be extremely creepy in Real Life]], and portrayed Rei as someone with a severe case of Asperger's. Unfortunately, otakus didn't get the point and thus Rei, instead of being the Real Life nerd, became one of the ancestors of the Moe Archetype, because autism would result in helplessness and therefore Moexploitation.

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'''[[ThisLoserIsYou Gendo Ikari is YOU]]'''; The emotionally stunted antisocial monomaniac who's so emotionally dependent upon his Moe waifu that he'd rather "just run away" back to her (Instrumentality), rather than accept his new reality, and then covers up his true incompetent self with a fake stoic badass MartyStu air, ala Self-Insert FanFic. He is Shinji all grown up and darker. Yui Ikari is the ideal selfless {{Moe}} YamatoNadeshiko MessianicArchetype Goddess we all worship and masturbate on, and her clone Rei Ayanami is the intended {{Deconstruction}} of that; Anno showed how such a completely submissive ExtremeDoormat fuckdoll [[UncannyValley would be extremely creepy in Real Life]], and portrayed Rei as someone with a severe case of Asperger's. Unfortunately, otakus didn't get the point and thus Rei, instead of being the Real Life nerd, became one of the ancestors of the Moe Archetype, because autism would result in helplessness and therefore Moexploitation.
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In the flashbacks describing the Birth of Nerv, Gendo was introduced as a {{Jerkass}} failure in life who kept getting into trouble. For example, when Fuyutsuki first met him, it was to bail him out of jail, as Gendo was an alcoholic who got into another fight again. Fuyutsuki could not comprehend why the beautiful genius Yui Ikari would be paired with a failure in life. Gendo then said that he was used to being hated by everybody else. Which means that he probably suffered from a severe case of Hedgehog's Dilemma, where contact with any others besides Yui ended in hurt, like porcupines trying to get close but can't because of their spines. He may have a bad reputation, as with real-life nerds, and may not know how to adapt in life by himself, needing Yui as a philosopher to teach him how to live, socialize and bypass the Hedgehog's Dilemma. That's why he always followed and stalked her. If Yui never existed, he would have stayed as an incompetent isolated in his Hedgehog's Dilemma, inevitably committing suicide directly or indirectly.

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In the flashbacks describing the Birth of Nerv, Gendo was introduced as a {{Jerkass}} failure in life who kept getting into trouble. For example, when Fuyutsuki first met him, it was to bail him out of jail, as Gendo was an alcoholic who drunk and got into another fight again. Fuyutsuki could not comprehend why the beautiful genius Yui Ikari would be paired with a failure in life. Gendo then said that he was used to being hated by everybody else. Which means that he probably suffered from a severe case of Hedgehog's Dilemma, where contact with any others besides Yui ended in hurt, like porcupines trying to get close but can't because of their spines. He may have a bad reputation, as with real-life nerds, and may not know how to adapt in life by himself, needing Yui as a philosopher philosopher/therapist to teach him how to live, socialize live and bypass the Hedgehog's Dilemma.socialize. That's why he always followed and stalked her. If Yui never existed, he would have stayed as an incompetent isolated in his Hedgehog's Dilemma, inevitably committing suicide directly or indirectly.
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[[WMG: A theory about the [[ThePrecursors First Ancestral Race]]...]]

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[[WMG: A theory about the [[ThePrecursors [[{{Precursors}} First Ancestral Race]]...]]
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Of course, [[{{Jossed}} canon may say otherwise,]] [[DeathOfTheAuthor but who knows, who cares. Maybe canon got it wrong.]] Unlike Adam's children, who possess S2 Engines, Lilith's children (Lilin, aka humanity) seem to be nothing more than messed-up, incomplete, frail creatures unfit for long-term survival, with only intellectual capabilities to help them. Then why would [[ThePrecursors the First Ancestral Race]] create such unfit organisms when trying to seed the universe with life? My hypothesis is that the First Ancestral Race experimented with trying to create a {{God}} (perhaps [[spoiler: the Giant Naked Rei]]), with Adam providing The Fruit of Life (eternal energy) and Lilith providing The Fruit of Knowledge (superintelligence), but something went horribly wrong, separating them from each other. How about the Lances of Longinus attached to them? They kept Adam and Lilith in a comatose state so that they would not gain sentience and plan something else before they were fully grown and one with each other.

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Of course, [[{{Jossed}} canon may say otherwise,]] [[DeathOfTheAuthor but who knows, who cares. Maybe canon got it wrong.]] Unlike Adam's children, who possess S2 Engines, Lilith's children (Lilin, aka humanity) seem to be nothing more than messed-up, incomplete, frail creatures unfit for long-term survival, with only intellectual capabilities to help them. Then why would [[ThePrecursors [[{{Precursors}} the First Ancestral Race]] create such unfit organisms when trying to seed the universe with life? My hypothesis is that the First Ancestral Race experimented with trying to create a {{God}} (perhaps [[spoiler: the Giant Naked Rei]]), with Adam providing The Fruit of Life (eternal energy) and Lilith providing The Fruit of Knowledge (superintelligence), but something went horribly wrong, separating them from each other. How about the Lances of Longinus attached to them? They kept Adam and Lilith in a comatose state so that they would not gain sentience and plan something else before they were fully grown and one with each other.

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