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Larkmarn
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08:02:33 AM May 22nd 2014
Is it just me or do examples like Elf seem to be less about political correctness and more about being accurate?

The entry claims Elf's advertising using the word "holiday" is PCGM, but to me it just makes sense since anyone can watch the thing even if they don't celebrate Christmas. Being more inclusive seems like the logical choice.

It just seems like Political Correctness Gone Mad Gone Mad.
Sorantheman
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02:15:34 AM May 22nd 2014
CHOUGHTUMBLRCOUGH! Sorry. Had something in my throat.
Komodin
07:26:47 AM May 22nd 2014
... What about Tumblr, exactly?
Larkmarn
07:55:40 AM May 22nd 2014
He's referring to the social justice warriors on Tumblr. It's not on the page because this is No Real Life Examples, Please!.
insaneenough
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05:18:06 AM Jan 27th 2014
edited by 204.39.64.2

Terrie
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04:09:41 AM Aug 19th 2013
The change of the meaning of the term "political correctness" is fairly extreme. Do people feel it's more accurate, and helps the page?
XylaArdhia
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12:33:33 AM Jul 11th 2013
edited by 69.172.221.8
  • "Blackboards in school being renamed 'chalkboards' to avoid offending black people. The marker variant, called a whiteboard, remains untouched, although, some do call them "Wipeboards", as you can wipe the writing off... but then again, you can do that with blackboards, too."

Markerboards?
Wereboar
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04:37:10 PM Jun 20th 2013
The 'blackboard' -> 'chalkboard' issue stems from a grain of truth, but has nothing to do with political correctness. In some areas, boards used in schools and similar establishments are dark green, so calling them 'blackboards' was considered a bit silly. And funny as it sees, this may be an issue when the public schools makes a tender for the board supplier. The term 'blackboard' may imply that the board must be black, thus limiting the range of prospective suppliers.
MaddKossack
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04:02:28 PM Nov 1st 2012
edited by MaddKossack
I'd like to propose a new entry for the Literature section: the short story Harrison Bergeron. I won't spoil any details on the actual story, but I'll take the opening paragraph to set the scene: "The year is 2081, and everybody is finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law, they were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else; nobody was better looking than anybody else; nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."

Since it's impossible to grant everybody genius I Qs, physically ripped bodies, and killer looks, the Handicapper General forces everybody to wear "handicaps" that impair any mental and physical ability above the lowest common denominator. The "average intelligence" of people is borderline retardation, with anybody above that IQ bracket forced to wear earpieces that randomly disrupt their thoughts with loud noises at random intervals. Anybody more stronger or agile than the weakest citizens is forced to wear bags of lead weights, bringing athletes down to the level of cripples. And anybody considered "more attractive" than average is forced to wear masks - the prettier they are without the masks, the uglier the mask is. All in the name of assuring nobody is capable of "competing" with each other, no less. The title character was taken from his parents by the Handicapper General for having intelligence, strength, and attractiveness FAR beyond the average citizen, and let's just say his "handicaps"... well, let's just say they don't do him any favors.

This pretty much takes Political Correctness Gone Mad to it's greatest extreme, and deliberately plays it for horror rather than comedy, by ensuring equality for all with iniquity for most.
MrFable
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12:11:18 PM Aug 29th 2012
Wouldn't that whole "Freedom Fries" fiasco be an example of political correctness?
DCC
06:38:46 PM Sep 1st 2012
No—it was right-wingers who proposed it. So it's Culture Police.
Historian1912
10:16:03 AM Oct 5th 2012
Does that make everything the left wing does examples of political correctness?
Nithael
12:50:46 AM Oct 6th 2012
No to all three. The "freedom fries" thing wasn't an example of anything but ridiculous stupidity.
Wereboar
04:21:04 PM Jun 20th 2013
Actually, "Freedom Fries" was the exact opposite. It was an attempt to eliminate connotation with a whole nation with intent to make them 'unmentionable' (much like eta caste in old Japanese class system). It's worse thing than any racial/national slur.
DCC
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10:22:57 AM Aug 13th 2012
Interesting contrast—this page has a lot more explaining "of course this doesn't apply in real life" than Culture Police.

Both of these, I would say, border on YMMV territory—if *you're* offended by it, you're a lot less likely to consider it Political Correctness Gone Mad/Culture Police.
wotnoplot
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01:22:04 AM Apr 29th 2012
Surely the reason not to refer a tar baby is that tar is black and this is what it was referring to?

Just because it's a African American folk tale has nothing to do with it.
DoktorvonEurotrash
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01:35:23 PM Jun 3rd 2011
Someone listed an example from Thursday Next under Webcomics. I moved it to Literature.
Rilkar
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04:55:36 PM Mar 30th 2011
"Tokyo is cracking down on sexual depictions of minors in anime, and passed a bill that will prohibit showing anything close to illegal sexual acts, homosexuality, or girls wearing school uniforms."

Does the bill actually say this? I've only read summaries of it.
Ju
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06:37:31 PM Mar 4th 2011
The idea of "banning" Christmas to avoid offending people of other religions (and atheists) always confused me. To me, if you're an atheist, then the idea of Jesus's birthday shouldn't bother you, since it means about as much to you as Santa Clause does to me. Jews celebrating Chanakah never bothered me. Don't mean to sound whiney or preachy, but I'm just saying...
Blacknumber
10:47:13 AM Mar 12th 2011
Banning Christmas in public places is probably what you mean. If it's ONLY Christmas that's being displayed, then there's a problem with that because it's more than likely that it's people who have non-Christmas winter celebrations that don't feel acknowledged. And since you aren't an atheist, you're very likely wrong on how they feel abut celebrations.
Ripheus
11:39:07 PM Mar 27th 2011
As an atheist who grew up devoutly Christian, it doesn't bother me that other people celebrate Christmas with public affirmations of their faith. It doesn't even bother me when they play up the religious imagery of Christmas or other such holidays. What I don't like about (some) Christmas talk is that ordinary Christians who talk to me about it usually assume that I buy into the same worldview that they do, that my views on Christmas things are the same as theirs because the way they think is natural and correct. Without acknowledging the possibility that Christmas might mean something else to me, they imply that my view is something "other" or "deviant," and I don't like that.

Having said that, I'm not sure what you mean by "banning" Christmas. If you're referring to incidents where the word is replaced with Holiday or some other euphemism, I take issue with your definition of banning. It's simple courtesy to say that, as while not everyone celebrates Christmas as such, the idea of a holiday season occurring around that same time with shared customs that transcend religion is much more universal. It's an inclusive term that reduces the potential for alienation because of unwarranted assumptions about the other person's beliefs. It's not perfect, but it's unquestionably well-intentioned.

Also, one minor thing; Your phrasing (the idea... shouldn't bother you) misses the point somewhat about tolerance and Political Correctness in general IMO. It's not about whether one person is right about subjective things, it's about you accepting that they're allowed to feel that way, and then accommodating them as far as is reasonable. You don't get to decide what it's acceptable to be offended by, you just get to choose whether you will respect the wishes of those who claim offense, or whether you won't.

Hope this clarified things, and without being patronizing or otherwise douchey (I sometimes come off that way even though I mean nothing like it).
gibberingtroper
11:47:05 AM Apr 16th 2011
There are varying levels of it written into government policy at least in government workplaces. The tolerance policies technically prohibit me from wishing a fellow Christian a merry christmas (in fact, they prohibit dialog that would allow me to determine I'm speaking to a fellow christian in the first place.) Its often ignored though.

And I agree some of it is sensitivity. Government has a way of pushing further and further with a program or policy so when we see a municipality take down a nativity display, it sets us on guard. What we have to remember is that the very presence of that nativity scene was probably putting the rest of you on guard to begin with.

Oddly, we are allowed to put up religious iconography in our own cubicles as long as nobody complains (I have a construction paper cross that was given to me by a coworker's daughter.) I think that's why we usually ignore the speech policy (its weird and I hear conflicting reports.)
boomslang
12:40:18 PM Sep 18th 2011
As a student rabbi, I have absolutely no problem with most Christmas decorations, carols, or Santa. I'd prefer it if carols that mention Jesus and Nativity scenes stay out of public schools and public buildings, but deck as many halls with boughs of holly as you want. And I hope my Christmas will be merry, just as I hope everyone has a "Happy Hanukkah", whether or not they actually celebrate the holiday. Which is why I respond that way whenever I receive a "Merry Christmas," and I hope no one is offended by that.

With regards to your cubicle, I don't think that is odd at all. After all, that's your space, and you should be free to decorate it with anything that is not actually offensive/hurtful to others. I think it's a bit like how you can put up whatever Christmas display you like on your lawn even though the public can see it.
Dagobitus
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06:50:37 PM Feb 9th 2011
edited by Dagobitus
There was an episode of Xena which was banned because Xena hit the sacred Wookie.
Dagobitus
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12:57:03 PM Oct 3rd 2010

There's also a rather pervasive tendency for some commentators to cite instances of over-the-top health and safety legislation. Because it is politically correct (as in the best move) to be seen as doing something. Not strictly this trope however.

Government Conspiracy: they are deliberately calling "Political Correctness" "Health and Safety". because they want to discredit REAL Health and Safety and abolish it.
numol
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09:27:02 PM Sep 8th 2010
"Most of the complaints for Indians aren't made by Indians..."

It's not like they don't speak up for themselves, though: http://nativeappropriations.blogspot.com/ http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net/ http://mycultureisnotatrend.tumblr.com/ http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stharm.htm
doomsday524
11:07:22 AM Feb 25th 2012
Speaking up for themselves is irrelevant to political correctness.
doomsday524
11:10:14 AM Feb 25th 2012
edited by doomsday524
Oversensitivity actually hurts that.
johnnye
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09:37:57 AM Sep 5th 2010
Soupdragon
08:31:40 PM Nov 24th 2010
edited by Soupdragon
I disagree. I think it should be Political Correctness Gone Challenged Mentally.
anon0794
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04:18:21 PM Sep 3rd 2010
I really don't understand the distinction between the two "types" of political correctness gone made. Can anyone provide a clearer explanation?
Zeke
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02:10:29 PM Jul 18th 2010
edited by Zeke
Cut (again):
  • Of course, Kurt Vonnegut meant it as a satire of people who didn't understand the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of results—in effect, mocking those who thought that affirmative action and the world of Harrison Bergeron were the same thing.
We've had this discussion at Misaimed Fandom. Short version: that's just one theory at best, and very far from an "of course".
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