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Main Betty And Veronica Discussion
Removed the horribly shoehorned H.M.S. Pinafore example. Rich Suitor Poor Suitor fits it much better.
Originally Veronica got the upper hand because Betty had _already rejected_ Archie. She only got interested in him once his attention was redeployed on Veronica.
Just wondering; is it possible for these two to be on friendly terms with each other, but there just happens to be a guy who can't decide between the two? Like, neither is entirely aware of the conflict they're causing, or if they are, then they could care less because the one wishes to be Just Friends and the other is asexual. Would make for an interesting subversion, maybe.
- Willow from Buffy The Vampire Slayer was the Betty to Xander's Archie. She was a genuine love interest for Xander, but he was far more drawn, in different ways, towards two different Veronicas: Buffy and Cordelia. (This being Joss Whedon, when Xander finally started to return Willow's interest, it trashed his relationship with Cordelia, nearly trashed Willow's relationship with Oz, and did not lead to Xander and Willow living together happily ever after.)
- Early seasons also has the gender-flipped version with Buffy as Archie, Xander as Betty and Angel as Veronica.
- Except Angel is more of a Betty than Xander.
- And Buffy never ever showed even the slightest interest for Xander.
- And Xander got over Buffy very fast.
- Every one of Buffy's human love interests/potential love interests (except for Parker) was a Betty with her vampire lovers as Veronicas.
- I'm completely confused about the last entry. There was no potential love interest in concurrence to neither Angel nor Spike present. Buffys only human love interest Riley occured in the time between Angel and Spike and had no vampire at concurrence at all - Spike wasnt romantically interested in Buffy yet and Angel had vanished into his own show.
- Buffy and Faith had a strong Betty And Veronica vibe going, although the guy playing Archie changed regularly. Xander, Angel, Riley, Spike, and Robin all took turns - usually fairly brief - in the Archie seat. For those keeping score, Buffy was simultaneously the Veronica to Willow's Betty and the Betty to Faith's Veronica. There's probably a lesson here.
- In the relationships between Buffy, Angel, and Cordelia, Cordelia initially was the Veronica, while Angel was interested in the Betty. Later, on the spin-off, she takes the role of best friend, playing Betty to Darla's Veronica. Which ones she and Buffy were to each other at this point is debatable.
- A gender-flipped Angel example: Fred (Archie) had to choose between the tough, street-smart former gang leader Gunn (Veronica) and the bookish, nerdy smart guy Wes (Betty). Eventually, she chose her Veronica, then broke up with him, turned to her Betty, died, became an ancient goddess, nearly killed both of them (one inadvertently), then Wes died. Long story.
- Willow was also Oz's Betty, as opposed to sexy werewolf Veruca. Betty wins, but then Oz leaves, realising that he's a danger to people and has to go figure out his condition before he can be around her.
- Also, the Veronica dies while Betty becomes a lesbian. Poor Oz.
- In season 8, Willow's girlfriend Kennedy was her Betty, with Willow's mentor/lover Aluwyn, the snake lady from a magical dimension, as Veronica.
- Early seasons also has the gender-flipped version with Buffy as Archie, Xander as Betty and Angel as Veronica.
Would The Brady Bunch 's Jan be the Betty and Marcia the Veronica?