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openDropped a Bridge on Him example Live Action TV
A long while ago I added this example to Recap.Doctor Who S 27 E 13 The Parting Of The Ways:
- Dropped a Bridge on Him: Not to anywhere near the extent of say, the Sixth Doctor's death-by-falling-over or the Eighth Doctor's regeneration not (at the time) being explained at all, but the fact that Rose was able to store the vortex energy for several minutes and only got a headache as a result, while the Doctor is killed by just storing it for a few seconds raised more than a few eyebrows.
Another troper later added this underneath the entry:
- Considering that Rose was able to bring Jack back to life, the Doctor might have been able to heal Rose, but couldn't heal himself.
This resulted in a third troper deleting the entire example with "Repair, Don't Respond" in the edit reason. However, would I be right in thinking that the second-level bullet point was speculative troping, and that the right course of action would have been to just delete that rather than nuking the whole example?
Looking back on it I'm not very happy with how I worded the example in the first place anyway, but just so I'm not engaging in a (very slow-motion) edit war, would I be okay to put the example back in as this:
- Dropped a Bridge on Him: The Doctor's dying as a result of holding the vortex energy in his body for roughly five seconds before he returns it to the TARDIS was seen by some fans as an abrupt and poorly-explained reason for his having to regenerate, especially since it comes right after Rose kept the same energy in her body for several minutes of screentime, while using it to wipe out the Daleks and resurrect Jack.
resolved How to mend this tropeslashing? Live Action TV
I'd like to fix this entry on Trivia.The Twilight Zone 1959 S 1 E 14 Third From The Sun but I'm not sure how. Could anyone more familiar with the show/the tropes help me out please?
- Dawson Casting/Underage Casting: The Sturkas' teenage daughter is played by 20-year-old Denise Alexander. Her father is played by 33-year-old Fritz Weaver.
openQuestionable interconnected YMMV/main additions Live Action TV
While browsing the page for Kamen Rider Outsiders, I've noticed several errant comparisons being made in both main and YMMV to unrelated pieces of media. Specifically, there are examples in both YMMV and main comparing it and/or its antagonist Zein to characters in Paranoia, Digimon, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
The problem is that I'm tuned in to several tokusatsu circles, and these comparisons have never come up even once. The Alternate Company Equivalent examples are also misuse in the SSBU and Digimon examples, as Kamen Rider does not compete with either; furthermore, the specific characters cited (Galeem in SSBU, Leviathan in Digimon) are up to seven years older than Outsiders, and therefore any resemblance to them is almost certainly a coincidence. The Paranoia examples also feel like even more of a stretch, considering it's a very old western work that, despite being a Trope Namer, seems to at least be in the realm of Mainstream Obscurity. I thus believe these are a singular troper's views being projected into the page.
The pages for Kamen Rider have historically suffered in quality (and I'm decently convinced similar odd examples are on other pages for the franchise but can't remember where), but I was wondering if it would be safe to start here before gunning for cleanup. Is it safe to remove these for being a stretch?
Edited by TrocyteVopenErroneous writing credits on recap pages Live Action TV
I have noticed there is a problem with the writing credits on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer pages. For example, on Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E1 "Welcome to the Hellmouth" it says,
Written by Whedon, Matt Kiene, Joe Reinkemeyer, Rob Des Hotel, & Dean Batali
This is false, as the pilot was obviously written by Whedon only (as seen on Wikipedia for example). I do know the reason why this happened: on IM Db, there is a(n unfortunate) directive to list crew members with certain job titles (namely, story editors and staff writers) under "Written By" for each episode. This means they are part of the writing staff, not that they actually co-wrote that particular episode. Case in point: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452716/fullcredits
I'm willing to go through the recap pages and fix these, but don't want to go on an editing spree without explaining why, so I'd use the edit reasons to link to this thread. Is that alright?
resolved work title question Live Action TV
I know we normally prefer to use the English title, but I've got a bit of a conundrum with this one. There's a German Detective Drama originally titled SOKO Potsdam that was syndicated on PBS via Walter Presents as Luna + Sophie, but we only got the first three seasons because both title characters Luna and Sophie left the series after the third season.
So, should I still use the English title, or go with the German title since the series is ongoing?
Edited by StarSwordresolved NCIS: Sydney page --> Wait for NA premiere Live Action TV
NCIS: Sydney was seen in Australia already (not sure if NZ is included), but NA viewers in Canada/US will have to wait until the 14th.
Better to wait for that (the 14th) to pass first?
openBob 🩷Abishola Live Action TV
Is it safe to create episode recap/summary pages? I see a lot of red links and this:
Note: This page was cut for reason: Page created by ban evader Creating red links in 3 articles. Abandoning 61 inbound links.
Also, how exactly do I go about creating a recap page and the links to it?
openConsolidation of tropes from spinoff Live Action TV
8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown is a comedy program which started off as a few special episode mashups of 8 Out of 10 Cats (a comedy panel show) and Countdown (a game show) and then had a spinoff series that is going on 12 years now. However, trope examples for Cats Does Countdown are splintered among pages for the latter two series. Would it make more sense to have tropes that are Cats Does Countdown-specific to be consolidated to one series or the other (or even its own page)?
openHow do I add a video example? Live Action TV
I know I've added one before ages and ages ago, but it's been ages since I've been active in the wiki, so I think things have changed. I'm willing to have it looked over or verified, if that's what needs to happen, but I just have one video example that I think works so well for a certain trope and I have literally no idea how to upload it. Has this feature been paused or something?
openSuite Life Radar Page Live Action TV
The Suite life series (of Zack and Cody, On Deck) had it's radar page cut for apparently only a few qualify for radar status. Personally I think otherwise and I want to recreate the page. I was wondering whether others think it's a good idea.
For context, this is what the page looked like before it was deleted: https://web.archive.org/web/20160101035353/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Radar/TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody
Edited by VenisbestboiopenDuplicate work page Live Action TV
The Show Llan-ar-goll-en has both a Series/ and a WesternAnimation/ pages, that seem to be duplicate of each other.
It is mostly live-action with a few animated characters; if I'm not mistaken, this kind of shows go in the "Series/" namespace.
The WesternAnimation/ page has more wicks and the video examples, though, which would need to be corrected first.
Edited by StFanresolved Requesting assistance with moving recap pages to correct locations Live Action TV
It was brought up here that the episode recap pages on The Twilight Zone (1959) from Seasons 2 to 5 have incorrect URLs, as the episode count doesn't restart at 1 for each season and simply continues to count in total episodes.
My question is, which would be the correct location to move one of them, for example, Recap.The Twilight Zone S 2 E 37 King Nine Will Not Return (first episode of Season 2)? Is it:
- The Twilight Zone S 2 E 1 King Nine Will Not Return (only episode number changed)
- The Twilight Zone (1959) S2E1: "King Nine Will Not Return" (that + added 1959 to URL)
The other revivals/series note (The Twilight Zone (1985), The Twilight Zone (2002), The Twilight Zone (2019)) have years in their recap episode page URLs, should the original 1959 series have that as well?
FYI: I made Sandbox.Recap The Twilight Zone 1959 so others can mend it, since I may be offline.
Edited by BlackFaithStaropenWhen to move to the Discussion page Live Action TV
Someone posted a comment disagreeing with something I put on a YMMV page; if I wanted to respond, should I do so on the Discussion page? And if yes, should I remove their comment and post it there as well? Should I just hide it with the %% symbol? Should I move my original comment, too, or just leave everything as is? I know you're not supposed to clog up the YMMV page with debates, but I don't use the forums much so I don't know all the etiquette.
Edited by Tabsresolved What is the difference between an Alternate Company Equivalent and a Expy? Live Action TV
I tried asking this before and i got no responses, i hope it is ok to try again. But i tried to ask about about editing a profile from Kamen Rider Build, as i noticed some similarities between the big bad and Dio from Jojo. But i think in general i want to ask, what is considered an Alternate Company Equivalent? If it is on purpose, is it just an expy? How much intent one needs to apply to make a character/faction/other the ACE trope? Please i want some clarification.
openWhat makes an character an Alternate Company Equivalent? Live Action TV
I been very tempted to slap that unto Kamen Rider Build's Evolt/Evolto, for i noticed he has a similarity to Jojo's Dio. For the following reasons: 1) both ancient in their own ways 2) hammy 3) manipulative/pretend to be allies/friends of others 5) madden someone into compliance 6) started their plots, Evolt moreso 7) familial tie to a hero, provider of said hero's powers 8) have no higher ideals than getting more and more power and manipulate people in some sort of facade personality 9) somehow able to attract a lot of people to either work for them or to trust him 10) wants to create a new world with a long scheme. But i really don't know how it would fully count as they are not similar species wise or in context of how their plans and characters are executed. So what does it take to be an ACE? Does it need to be a deliberate expy or can it be considered because of the roles they have in the story?
openNew trope idea Live Action TV
I'm Buff! When a character looks breifly muscular. Ben 10: Race Against time is a example.
openre "Let's Meet the Meat" Live Action TV
(not a question, just a comment)
"While Buffy doesn't actually want vampires to drink her blood, she sometimes enjoys taunting them by pointing out how good her blood would taste."
The Season 5 episode "Fool for Love" reveals that Slayer blood is a powerful aphrodisiac for vampires. IMHO it seems safe to presume that, when taunting vampires about "how good her blood would taste" in earlier episodes, Buffy didn't know that. Because if someone's already trying to kill you, giving them an *aphrodisiac* ahead of time will only...well, I honestly can't think of any non-crude way to say it. :-|
resolved Breaking Bad "Full Measure" Trivia page? Live Action TV
Someone made a Trivia page for the Breaking Bad episode "Full Measure". It solely comprises of this:
- Other shows with episodes premiering on June 13th include The Amazing World of Gumball (Episode 10 in 2011), Fraggle Rock (Episode 23 in 1983), Futari wa Pretty Cure (Episode 20 in 2004), Teen Titans Go! (Episode 53 in 2014), Tropical-Rouge! Pretty Cure (Episode 16 in 2021).
That is not trivia. Cut the page?
openShere Khan in the Hijacked by Ganon Live Action TV
What shows have shows have Shere Khan be responsible for which villain in the different adaptations he appeared that make the trope of Hijacked by Ganon?
When logged out, I can only see two tropes on Doctor Who 60th AS "The Star Beast": Retraux and Rearrange the Song. No intro paragraph, no image, no other tropes. Logged in, I can see the whole thing. Does anyone know what's causing this? I can replicate it in Chrome and Edge.
Edited by thelivingtoad