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True, though it makes me wonder what happened to Blue Diamond.

As of right now, she and White Diamond are presumably back on Homeworld.

I know that; it just seemed that both BD and WD were out-of-commission.

We just haven't seen them is all. The Diamond emblem reflects three of them still.

I admittedly don't know much about the series (I'm still trying to figure out what the hell "poofing" is), but Yellow sounds AWFUL.
Thanks

edited 24th Aug '16 7:57:01 AM by ACW

@ACW: Poofing is when a Gem's body is destroyed, leaving the gemstone behind. This isn't Gem death: the body is basically a hard-light illusion, and the Gem's conciousness is kept in stasis until the body reforms. Shattering the stone is closer to Gem death (Though a bit of consciousness still lingers behind).

edited 24th Aug '16 7:46:54 AM by FriedWarthog

Here's a write-up for Silver Odysseus:

• Family: Silver Odysseus stands out as a particularly Ax-Crazy individual in a Vice City run by a superpowered mafia. When he was heir apparent to become the next Don of the Odysseus crime family he regularly whacked other made guys before his associates killed him to make his younger brother Gio the new boss. Silver comes Back from the Dead years later and goes on an indiscriminate rampage, killing gangsters, cops, and civilians alike with his explosive powers. He also murders his nephew Chrissie to hurt Gio, as well as a gangster named Stone by blowing him up while he's in his petrified form so his disembodied head will remain conscious. At the same time he's using his old partner Al to play Gio and Cane, a rival gangster, against each other, hoping to unleash a citywide Mob War. He ultimately reveals his real purpose is to wipe out everyone in the family and bring a true reign of terror to Oysseus City.

edited 24th Aug '16 8:00:57 AM by Morgenthaler

Please add to the Drafts page.

So far the only Diamond that has active involvement in the present plot is Yellow Diamond so she would be the most likely candidate but even with her we haven't seen enough of her or know her true motivation to say whether she counts. Seeing as they gave PD the Unperson treatment, she might just be biter about the Rebillion's success.

This is getting very interesting, I wonder where the writers will go with this.

So, um, anyone got any good quotes for these pages?

I wish I could find my Rurouni Kenshin DVD's, because I can vaguely recall there being at least one good quote regarding Kanryu that could be used for the page.

@Lord YAM: Honestly, while he may have been disqualified, I'm inclined to disagree that Arianna is at the same level of evil as Nicodemus. He's pretty seriously awful.

As I recall, Nicodemus was responsible for the Black Plague.

Sure seems that way. Dammit, if only he didn't love his daughter.

I found this quote on the Western Animation section from The Horned King which I don't think it describes his heinousness very much. Look here:

I think it's more A God Am I kind of speech.

^ Agreed, axe it.

Eh, I kinda like it, but I won't fall on my sword to stop it from being cut.

Any votes on Carmilla? I would particularly like Lighty's thoughts, since he was the one that prompted me to propose her.

Likewise, I'd probably vote that one down.

That movie sounds very entertaining.

It's actually really boring.

Is this supposed to be the actual Mircalla "Carmilla" Karnstein (who's actually Austrian and not Romanian), or did they just borrow the name? Either way, I'm inclined to downvote.

Also on that Horned King quote. It's a great quote, especially in John Hurt's voice, but not quite right for this trope.

edited 24th Aug '16 1:29:34 PM by LordXavius

Just a reminder: One week from tomorrow morning (when I wake up August 1), I'm gonna remove the examples not in the folder here and then swap, so if you see one you think counts, make your case. Also, Jack Noir was mentioned as a possible cut, but he's there for now. Here are the 9 that would go:

• Blade of Toshubi: Advisor Toh enjoys torturing and breaking women. He also has a room filled with the tails of the people he has killed (including his women) that he occasionally stuffs his women into for extended periods, sometimes for punishment, but sometimes For the Evulz.
• Dominic Deegan The Infernomancer (known by some as TIM), is a sick piece of work even by the standards of a demonically empowered murderer (yes, there are more than one of these in the comic). In an early story arc, he tried to find the headmaster of the local magic academy (Dominic's mother) by attacking the school and slaughtering students until one of them coughed up her location. Unbelievably, he topped himself after becoming the servant of an Eldritch Abomination — after escaping limbo, he celebrated his freedom by massacring random places of worship. Then he wiped out a village for kicks — that Dominic's brother was also there was just a bonus to TIM.
• General Protection Fault: Emperor Nicholas the Puissant has conquered the world in an alternate dimension. He kills people who fail him, tortures Nega-Ki to ensure his counterpart's obedience, then threatens to torture prisoners to death in front of him if he wastes time, and it is ultimately revealed that he doesn't want Project Velociraptor so that he can win the war with the aliens laying waste to Earth, but so he can escape and re-establish himself elsewhere.
• Girl Genius: Lucrezia/The Other qualifies for this trope on the basis of enslaving and slaughtering many thousands of innocent people, betraying the world's greatest heroes, and being the worst mother ever - killing her own son, using her own daughter for a Grand Theft Me, and then plotting to kill said daughter when that plan goes badly awry. She shows no remorse or sympathy for anyone other than herself, whether they are a victim, an innocent bystander, or one of her own loyal minions.
• Kid Radd: The Seer is essentially a virus that didn't go off on the day it was scheduled to because he realized that humanity would survive. He spends the entirety of the comic finding a way to get a sprite body, then a physical body, so he could kill everybody in both worlds. He didn't need to do any of this. He could easily kill both populations at any point, but wants to be there physically so he can see his victims cower in fear of him before he slaughters them. Then, once he was done with Earth, he planned to search the galaxy for other forms of life just so he could go on killing for eons.
• Mob Ties: Bengal is a rapist, murderer, and freakin' god of undeath confined in a human form. Among his many sins, he has raped Mika, who was 13-14 at the time, murdered Mika's best friend Kyoko, and then destroying the one object that might have undone that murder. He also killed Santa Claus.
• Penny and Aggie: Cyndi is a manipulative sociopath who almost gets off on driving people to suicide. In a really creepy and incriminating file on her laptop, she documented how fun and easy it is to dig a hole into someone's psyche and widen it. She brags about nearly driving Michelle into starving herself to death and she had plans to destroy Daphne and Sara's relationship in the hopes of getting one or both of them to commit suicide. In the same strip this was all revealed, she successfully goaded Charlotte into slitting her own throat by using her Mommy Issues against her. Seeing someone bleed out in front of her thanks to her words puts a grin on Cyndi's face. What's even more damning is that both her biggest "success" so far AND her next intended victim, who she merely considers "practice" (Meg), are erstwhile members of her own clique from the "Popsicle War" arc.
• Sire: Susan. You might be inclined to think of her cruelty to Anna as the frustrations as a lonely child. That is, until she savagely beats in the head of the only person who cared about her, simply because he didn't shower her with enough attention. After this, she pins the rap on Anna, laughs off her suicide attempt, snaps the neck of her lawyer, smuggles herself and Anna into another country, and leaves her at the hands of some unsavory types. And while she's doing all this, she coerces Anna into thinking that it was all her fault.
• Wayward Sons: Doctor Chu is a brilliant scientist who gets most of his results through torturous experiments on live subjects. Or, put another way, he's a professional torturer who learns a lot of useful things while on the job. Either way, he certainly enjoys what he does.

edited 24th Aug '16 1:53:03 PM by ACW

I think they're just using the name. However, I've never read Carmilla, so I wouldn't know.

Yeah I'll give a on Carmilla too. Her actions are too indirect.

I think the vague consensus on Emperor Nick the Puissant is to abstain until his plot is over. At least that's the impression I got from the response to my effort post.

I did some rereading of Kid Radd to look at the Seer, and my general impression is that he doesn't do enough on screen to pass the heinous standard. The worst we see him do on screen is hijack a transformation of his pawn Crystal (effectively leaving her in an And I Must Scream state, except we don't actually ever see her reaction to being trapped in that transformation without any control), and then try to kill the main character (Kid Radd).

His goals are suitably monstrous; we just never see him make all that much progress to accomplishing them. He probably warrants some credit for manipulating Crystal into establishing a totalitarian state, and it's implied that he's manipulated sprites who visit him for advice into killing themselves off, but that is off panel.

I can turn this into an actual effort post if it's desired.

edited 24th Aug '16 6:27:12 PM by thok