"I still think it should be typed as a trope, as there are no YMMV indexes."
Putting the horse before the cart.
It isn't an index. Not really. It is a definition, with some of the examples being indexed.
I would say that because the definition describes an Audience Reaction (how some audiences allegedly perceive some tropes) it should be YMMV like all the other Audience Reactions.
If YMMV items should not be indexes, than the solution is not to pretend it is objective (which it isn't), but to removing the indexing property of the page.
I asked about it here. Since I expected the discussion to be long and to focus this on making more tropes YMMV, I moved it over.
Bumping to votes. Inferred Holocaust needs 1 vote to 10 in the total.
edited 4th Sep '13 1:25:24 PM by MagBas
Bumping to votes again. By the way, in the next crowner, i guess that is a good idea change the "at least 10 votes" requisite to an "after 72 hours" requisite.
edited 7th Sep '13 5:16:24 PM by MagBas
No, the "at least 10 votes" requirement isn't changing—it's there to make sure that there's enough input on the items.
Okay, but in this case i guess that is a good idea invent a form to this thread be more visited. With Mikuru Fan abandoning the wiki, the 10 votes requisite will be harder. Well, in either case, calling Inferred Holocaust( 8 yes and 2 nays)
edited 8th Sep '13 8:33:12 PM by MagBas
SNIP
edited 11th Sep '13 9:51:03 AM by Willbyr
Nominating Inferred Survival, considering that Inferred Holocaust is already YMMV.
That one has a really confusing description which could go either way. But the examples certainly point to it being YMMV.
Network Decay doesn't have a YMMV banner. Magazine Decay does.
This seems mismatched. As the latter is a subtrope of the former, shouldn't they be equal? Either both are YMMV or neither are.
Network Decay is about a change in focus of networks. I don't know why Magazine Decay is YMMV.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanHello,
I think Ambiguously Evil should count as YMMW because it's a difficult trope and moralties are very subjective. Audience reaction to Ambiguously Evil characters, whether they've crossed the "evil line" or not, may wary.
To quote the Ambiguously Evil page: "Sometimes, the writers will deliberately leave it to the audience to decide what their true colors are."
Srg. Dornan: Troper, what are you doing here?! Get back to your post!!!Ambiguously Evil: Yeah, some of the entries there suggest that it's a bit YMMV.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanFollowing suggestions, i am putting Network Decay and Ambiguously Evil in the crowner.
Dunno about Ambiguously Evil. Isn't the point that it is subjective? As in an objective view of the trope? The alignment itself is subjective, but that it is subjective is objective. Or at least enough for a non-YMMV trope.
Not seeing a good argument to make Network Decay YMMV. Just citing another trope that's marked YMMV doesn't work if I don't agree with that one either. I also disagreed with Inferred Holocaust.
Check out my fanfiction!Bumping to votes.
edited 21st Sep '13 5:30:53 PM by MagBas
Would it be possible to nominate Magazine Decay to have its YMMV banner removed?
I propose we add the banner to Do Not Do This Cool Thing since "cool" is subjective.
...While that's a strange way to put it, I can support that. A description that's written largely in second-person is not the sign of an objective trope.
I awould rather worry about that first folder first. What is up with it?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWell, including Do Not Do This Cool Thing in the crowner.
Including Common Knowledge after read the real life examples thread and the description.
edited 22nd Sep '13 4:22:07 AM by MagBas
Nominating Scenery Porn. It's a Sub-Trope of Awesome Art, which is a Sugar Wiki article. Yet for some reason, Scenery Porn is on the main wiki and doesn't even have a YMMV banner.
Honestly, it shouldn't be a subtrope of Awesome Art in the first place.
Crown Description:
YMMV is for items that are reactions of the audience to works and tropes that need a significant judgment call to tell whether they exist objectively or not. Should these items become members of YMMV? Note: Audience Reactions need to be subjective, emotional responses and things that are likely to cause arguments and disagreements. Merely being outside a work or inside an audience don't make things YMMV
Bumping to votes.