Kingsman

Just came back and this movie was mindblowingly amazing. Maybe one of my favorites of all time.

The church scene is just a work of art.

Watched the movie this Friday and had a hell of a time. Enjoyed way more than I thought I would. I do agree with the sexism criticism, though. Roxy is nominally more competent than Eggsy, but ultimately she feels like a Faux Action Girl as we hardly seem her doing anything and her contribution to the finale was more passive and less impressive. The very last scene also felt very unnecessary and crass.

Still, hell of a movie. I wish I could tell English accents apart better. I felt it was important for the characterization, but I couldn't identify them properly.

Yeah I felt the whole Swedish Princess gag was unnecessary and crass too. A much better closure for the film would be somethng like Eggsy officially taking Galahad's place at the Round-Table-that's-not actually-round back at the Kingsman HQ, then suiting up for another mission with a Sequel Hook vibe.

Who do you think wrote the comic this was adapted from?

edited 15th Mar '15 4:23:57 PM by Bonerfart

I've just learned that, and thought it was quite appropriate. Apparently the movie was just loosely based, though, changing a lot of things (Valentine is a new character, for example), so am not sure it is fair to blame him on that scene.

Speaking on suiting up, I thought it was a damn shame we never got to see Roxy on her own badass spy suit.

edited 15th Mar '15 5:02:30 PM by Heatth

Yes, but it's entirely in-keeping with the type of stories he does.

On the no Sequel Hook, from the Trope Page it looked like they weren't really expecting enough pull to make a sequel likely so I can see why they didn't include that.

On the other hand, it was in perfect line with the usual gimmick of "Bond gets some action with some girl while his superiors happen to watch him", with some added crudity, also keeping the movie theme of constantly playing with the James Bond tropes.

I loved the inversion of the Swedish princess being friskier than Eggsy (and Eggsy just asking for a kiss instead of acting like she's automatically his prize), but the rolling over bum shot was pretty stupid. way better ways to have filmed that.

Wow, Colin Firth was so graceful. Just...wow.

Lesson learned is never, ever trust Michael Caine unless you're Batman. The Prestige, Stonehearst Asylum, Quills, Kingsman...that guy is going to fuck you over.

I was more-or-less okay with the princess joke, but then that gratuitous shot, and… yeah…

(I can drink to that Firth. Very nice.)

Sequel-wise, though, Vaughn does sound like he really wants to do one. If he directs it, I'm especially interested in this American branch and whatever torture he wants to put Merlin through. (Also love how the interviewer was going "Give Roxy shit to do!")

edited 19th Mar '15 3:55:59 PM by BlackRevolver

I'm more interested in seeing the rest of the "Round Table". The movie only shows Galahad, Lancelot, Arthur, Merlin and a vanishingly brief appearance of Percival. From the first scene of the movie there must be at least a twelve or so "Knights", so we don't see even half of them.

And with Arthur's betrayal and subsequent death we are short of one.

I think the sequel should have one scene where the protagonists are pinned down and about to be overwhelmed when suddenly a wall explodes, and the entirety of the remaining Kingsmen stroll in Big Damn Heroes fashion, announcing their presences and they're all played by famous Britsh actors like John Hurt, Liam Neeson, Charles Dance, Ian McKellen, Sylvester McCoy, Patrick Stewart, Peter Capaldi, Brendan Gleeson (who lacks a tvtropes page, sadly enough), Bill Nighy, Christopher Eccleston.

Just go toss 'em all in the same scene and have them all suit-clad, wielding bionic umbrellas and dropping one liners as they demolish an entire battalion each single-handedly. It'd be the best thing in the history of ever.

Ten◊, more like it.

I'm not gonna lie, though, I'm kind of hoping at least one or two of them were offed in some way at the end just to have a chance to have less mayonnaise clones on the table, lmao.

Mayonnese clones....?

My friends and I joke that it looks like almost all of them are the exact same middle-age, posh white dude. Sure, the whole get-up is essentially their work uniform, but still—an optimistic part of me's always gonna hope for the start of more variety in the knights, especially after the death of that one particularly huge elitist prick.

Well it makes sense, Kingsman is explained as having been founded by the cream of the crop of European aristocracy, and it isn't that old of an organization (barely a century old). A lot of their members are probably sons and grandsons of their original founders.

My idea would involve recasting them anyway, though I'd like for them to remain primarily of the British Isles for stylistic reasons.

edited 19th Mar '15 6:36:15 PM by Gaon

Looks like we might be getting a sequel after all, if production goes smoothly!

That's good news. I hope they manage to keep the spirit of the first movie. It's not as if there was a shortage of James Bond tropes to have fun with.

[chinhands]

Have next to no idea what to expect, but I'm still excited.

This film was a delicious orgy of cruelty and violence. And the main villain was adorable. Great movie, great movie indeed. You too, Lower-Class Lout, can become a super-badass classy man of action, if you hang out with The Doctorhave the right genes and the right connections.

I just watched it, and really enjoyed all of it, whether it is the acting, the campiness, the references, the accents, the fights, many Westboro-like people dying in horrible fashion...this movie had everything.

BUT.

I'll admit, I watched a downloaded version. At one point during the finale, I had the impression that the movie had a bad editing when Eggsy talks to the Princess, but it could have been a way to make a somewhat weird, Shepard-like "I should go" moment, so I did not really try to understand.

Then I checked the page on this website, and realized that the Princesses kinkiest line was edited. Also, it seems that her later bare butt was changed too so all we see is the upper-half of her body.

Now, don't get me wrong. I read the quote, and it's crass and unnecessary. The kinky princess was funny as it was, and the anal joke was not a necessity. But to see it being removed shocks me. Are people becoming that prude that even divx creator remove the sex-related content of movies? Or is it the way the Bluray/DVD was made, which means that the censorship came from the productors themselves? Either way, I highly dislike it. If there is a bad scene/quote in a movie, it's part of a movie - and the creator wants to remove it, then he creates an alternate scene, or at least he edits the movie properly so the cut does not stick like a sore thumb.

It depends. Did you watch the version released in the UK? Oftentimes, the UK release will have things edited out - in The Avengers, for instance, they edited out the tip of the spear that came out of Coulson's chest when Loki stabbed him. So it's possible that you got a copy from the UK and not the US.

That either the US or the UK would edit such a line & scene still baffles me.

The US didn't edit out the line - I saw the movie in theatres and it was there. The question is whether they saw the UK version and the UK censors edited it or the person who recorded it edited it (which would be weird).

Yeah, US theater release had the line and showed her butt. Don't have the DVD or BR release (the latter an issue only because I now have a BR player), partly because I wasn't aware that it's been out since last month.

edited 16th Jul '15 8:47:44 PM by Nohbody

UK had the line at least in cinemas.

I'd say you just stumbled across a prudish pirate myself.