Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
Today's worklist is up. Also, the pages here still need commentary.
- Altador Cup Tumblr Edition: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Altador Cup Tumblr Roleplay: Not sure why the page was made as a stub then blanked; can you explain, ~Um?
- Avatar Of Albion: By ~The MS Void, that page needs an actual description added and somewhat better page formatting (including the usage of bullet points).
- Code Name: S.T.E.A.M: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- The Necro Critic: A fairly stubby page that needs indexing and better formatting, by ~minikiss.
FYI moved Back In Black to Music.Back In Black and cutlisted the Main/ one. Also did some cleanup.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
- Noteworthy MGM Cartoon Staff: I don't see why we couldn't make a subpage of Creator.MGM Studio (or wherever the studio page is) that just adds (Staff) at the end. Most of the studio Creator pages make a similar list and don't even move it off the page. Similar logic applies to Noteworthy Looney Tunes Staff.
- Life Is A Game: Needs cutting. Name is nonindicative (it doesn't proportion that life is a game, it says life changes to a "game"), and too badly written to count as a trope.
- Sacrificial Vile: A mix of Jerkass (for Orochimaru) and Asshole Victim (for everything else). Creator should be directed to the Asshole Victim TRS thread.
- Roleplay.Altador Cup Tumblr Edition: cut or send to the sandbox. ~Um probably needs another tap to visit this thread, so we can ask what they were planning.
- VideoGame.Code Name Steam: It looks like it needs to be moved to the Sand Box until the work has actually collected some tropes and a better description.
- Altador Cup Tumblr Roleplay: Should be deleted. I made this on impulse and without proper knowledge of how to format a page.
- Altador Cup Tumblr Edition: This was created by ~Nianso, who offered to take over for me.
edited 12th Jun '14 10:10:59 AM by Um
Today's mixed reply- and worklist:
- Åland Islands: Very stubby and incomplete page by ~fairywine.
- Frank Album: Have we come to an agreement yet? We can't keep the page there.
- Life Is A Game: Also inclined to cut and re-YKTTW.
- Noteworthy MGM Cartoon Staff: The solution proposed by ~crazysamaritan seems not much more orthodox than the current setup. Something tells me we'll need a special discussion for this kind of pages.
- The Port Charlie Podcast: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Sacrificial Vile: Any more opinions?
- This Index Is On Purpose: Seems like there is nothing more to say, here.
- Transformers: Robots in Disguise: Stub work page; creator messaged.
Mike J needs still to be indexed, anyhow, and I am disappointed that the creator of Analysis.Ni GH Tcap didn't respond.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
My biggest issue is "noteworthy". Aside from that, the page(s) are just an index of Creators from a specific company.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Doesn't even like this username
I did some work to improve (well, basically create) the Åland Islands page.
edited 13th Jun '14 10:10:19 AM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
.......WHY GOD WHY?!
(As in, cut that abomination right now.)
Edit:Regarding Sacrificial Vile, I say cut as well
edited 13th Jun '14 12:50:07 PM by tryrar
FYI I made a post on Ask The Tropers about those bad Self-Demonstrating pages... he made a couple. Please feel free to chime in there.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
I went ahead and put that...article on the cutlist, as well as that other one you brought up on ATT. I also hollered for a mod to come talk to him
Today's worklist:
- Avatar Of Albion: The creator has blanked it.
- Life Is A Game: That was redirected to Sudden Game Interface, then un-redirected then re-redirected.
- The Necro Critic: ~minikiss, that page needs crosswick, indexing and Zero-Context Example cleanup.
- My Wife Is Wagatsuma San: By ~Tropers/{{32_Footsteps}}, it needs Crosswicking.
- Noteworthy MGM Cartoon Staff: There are a number of pages like that. Shall we make a thread for them?
- Sacrificial Vile: Should we cut that in the meantime?
- Six Degrees Of Canada: Not the proper namespace, but I don't know for sure; ~Mission, can you help?
- This Index Is On Purpose: Evidently no more commentary.
Also, while there are already some messages, ~Chericola needs to be reminded to index their pages.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I'm still figuring this out, sorry! Please bear with me.
I sent Septimus Heap a PM to this effect, so sorry for saying this twice! But I checked out other fandom pages before going ahead and creating the C6D page, and the ones I looked at were all in the main namespace as well. I don't really know where else to put it, at the moment? I've thought about it a bit since I sent my original reply, and the only places I can think of are Fanfic—which is kind of an awkward fit because fandom produces fanfic, not the other way around, and being in a fandom doesn't necessarily mean you're writing fic—and Web Original.
edited 15th Jun '14 2:55:07 AM by Mission
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
- Six Degrees Of Canada looks like it belongs in Main/. It should also be used as an index of the works or thespians the fandom watches. The links need namespacing, and slightly more active phrasing could be used. Declare what the fandom is about, don't generalize or guess. I assume you're writing it because you're a fan. You don't need to guess, you need to inform.
- Sacrificial Vile: I guess. Did the creator get directed? (Being lazy and not checking who the creator is)
- Life Is A Game: the new page (Sudden Game Interface) launched with two hats. Not sure that's okay, but the page doesn't look as terrible as the original.
- Studio Staff: Wiki Talk or Short Term Projects?
edited 15th Jun '14 5:43:59 AM by crazysamaritan
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Sorcerer in training
Agree, agree, agree, not sure.
@Mission: Canon produces fans which produce fanfic, which can produce fans of the fanfic who write their own fanfic... It's a web of chains with no horizon in sight, and it happens to nearly every work in existence at some point. 
Even the IRS has people trying to make stories up about its rules.
Today's worklist and replies:
- First-Run Syndication: A stub trope without YKTTW by ~garrisonskunk. It's tropable but without examples it's a bad page.
- Fistful of Frags: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Jeff, Who Lives at Home: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Mike J List: Another of these "list" pages that were already discussed on Ask The Tropers.
- Sacrificial Vile: I did call the creator but never got a response. Guess we'll have to cutlist it.
On the Studio Staff pages like Noteworthy MGM Cartoon Staff I would say TRS if it's a single page and Wiki Talk if it's more than one, ~crazysamaritan.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=14029231350A46256900&page=1#1
Discussion created. Four pages easily found.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Self Destruct As Failsafe got launched. No hats, one example, ongoing discussion about the name.
Seems pretty cut-and-dry to cut and send back to YKTTW.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Uh, yeah. Calling ~Schol-R-LEA here for that premature launch.
Otherwise:
- Lets Light Up The World: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Papa Roach: Misnamespaced work page that after a namespace move (I am not up for that right now) needs crosswicking and indexing; by ~Lee Heart.
- Persona 4 Golden: The Animation: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Tarkin: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Tooned: Stub work page; creator messaged.
You know, there's no need to create a new subpage for Persona 4 The Golden Animation. I say turn it into a redirect to Persona 4: The Animation.
edited 17th Jun '14 7:48:09 AM by VeryMelon
Did what I could to expand the Persona 4 page. Not a lot of info out for it.
Why do you say that? It seems to be entirely newly animated, thus folding it into the old page wouldn't really make much sense.
I'm going to ask on ATT for Self Destruct As Failsafe to be unlaunched.
edited 17th Jun '14 7:54:31 AM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Rev. First Speaker
If the tropers think it should be unlaunched, I won't object.
edited 17th Jun '14 10:48:17 AM by Schol-R-LEA
yeah, I just found that page and was gonna bring it to attention, but then I saw Larkman got here first. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Oh well, agree to the unlaunch
Today's worklist:
- TearJerker.Facing The Future Series: Why did you blank it, ~Eddy1215?
- Keeper Of Porridge And Beans: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Memories of Iron: Work page without examples; creator messaged.
- Pwnage: Stub work page; creator messaged.
Also, The Necro Critic and its creator ~minikiss need a lot of formatting and Zero-Context Example help.
I've also cutlisted Sacrificial Vile for being a stub trope without YKTTW; ~One Eyed Dragon, if you want to still work on it feel free to do so in YKTTW.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
~Eazy Cheeze, while the enthusiasm is appreciated, you might want to read over the Administrivia pages a bit more - "full stop" is not good writing in wiki articles.
Regarding Back To Black, yeah that goes in Music/ if anywhere.
Worklist:
- The Bombshell: That page needs crosswicking and indexing; can you do that, ~Tropers/{{Jael.Rice.1}}?
- Seth Rollins: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Headscratchers.Unsere Muetter Unsere Vaeter: This sounds more like a It Just Bugs Me! entry; by ~china93.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman