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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3151: May 5th 2015 at 10:17:30 AM

[up] I actually searched for Fan Favorite because I thought I had seen it, and didn't find it. Now I know why. Seconding the suggestion to cut Darling.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3152: May 6th 2015 at 5:11:24 AM

Only one work on today's worklist: Prince Staghorn's Known World, a stub work page whose creator has been messaged.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3153: May 6th 2015 at 2:50:52 PM

Evening worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3154: May 6th 2015 at 11:21:06 PM

This morning has Abandoned Temple, a trope made without YKTTW by ~seerofthevideos. In my mind, it has too few examples and it's not clear what the trope actually is.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3155: May 8th 2015 at 12:24:33 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3156: May 9th 2015 at 2:26:27 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#3157: May 9th 2015 at 4:00:28 AM

So, are you sending Abandoned Temple to yk?

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#3158: May 9th 2015 at 8:04:45 AM

[up]As a setting, it seems tropable( the gang visits the Abandoned Temple as the location of the object of power), but yeah, that needs YKTTW. Vote to send it there

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy casual
#3159: May 9th 2015 at 1:26:13 PM

Just found Stealth Commercial. Not been indexed, with no examples, wicks or inbounds. Doesn't make too much sense to me, either. Can it be salvaged, or simply cutlisted?

(Annoyed grunt)
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3160: May 10th 2015 at 1:31:42 AM

Stealth Commercial is old, but not particularly useful. I would cutlist it, unless someone wants to put it through YKTTW. Same for Abandoned Temple.

Otherwise:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#3161: May 11th 2015 at 9:06:08 AM

  • Snakes Are Sinister is a mess. It never got a proper definition and example section, and the page is currently just the entire YKTTW comments and all copy-pasted into the page.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3162: May 11th 2015 at 10:33:50 AM

I'm not sure if it's a crash, per se, but Creator's Favorite Episode was launched yesterday and has been neither indexed nor crosswicked (literally no wicks as of this posting).

Edit: For that matter, I first noticed this on the day of the launch and waited to see if the creator was just a little slow, but Hypnosis-Proof Dogs also has not been crosswicked since its launch four days ago. It has three wicks.

Is this an appropriate place to point out pages that just haven't been properly launched (i.e., indexed and crosswicked) rather than those that just obviously weren't ready to launch in the first place? Or is there somewhere else such posts should go?

edited 11th May '15 10:37:54 AM by SolipSchism

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3163: May 11th 2015 at 3:00:01 PM

On such bad launches, messaging the creators can also be done.

An evening worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3164: May 11th 2015 at 11:23:33 PM

Someone will have to move Abandoned Temple to YKTTW; recently I haven't been working there much.

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3165: May 12th 2015 at 4:13:19 AM

Two more:

  • The Tripper: Stub work page with no description and two ZCEs, created in 2013. Clear cutlist material.
  • Imogen Poots: Stub creator page, which should at least have a list of works they were involved in or a list of tropes for their involvement in those works.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3166: May 12th 2015 at 9:11:16 AM

[up][up][up] Oh, duh, I should have known that. I'll do that. Thanks.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#3167: May 12th 2015 at 4:19:34 PM

The person who made MiniSeries.Prey I've already contacted about how we usually do disambiguations in the same namespace (by country or by year.)

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
#3168: May 12th 2015 at 4:20:39 PM

Er, disambigs aside, I was not aware that we had a Miniseries/ namespace.

By which I mean, we don't.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3169: May 13th 2015 at 3:42:45 AM

Aye, that page is not legal. It should be cut after moving.

Otherwise, today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy casual
#3170: May 13th 2015 at 9:53:27 AM

I moved MiniSeries.Prey to Series.Prey UK Miniseries and cutlisted it.

edited 13th May '15 9:53:46 AM by TheUnsquished

(Annoyed grunt)
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#3171: May 14th 2015 at 1:11:03 AM

I was going to move Abandoned Temple to YKTTW, but then remembered Temple of Doom is a trope and covers the same basic concepts. Cutlist Abandoned Temple?

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3172: May 14th 2015 at 1:44:38 AM

Sure.

Anyone got commentary on Snakes Are Sinister?

Otherwise, worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3173: May 14th 2015 at 3:38:30 PM

Evening report:

  • Mythos: Stub work page; creator messaged.
  • The Price Of Power: A page made in an ad hoc namespace. Not sure if we should have separate pages for such things, at any rate; by ~Akuma Ouja.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3174: May 15th 2015 at 4:10:57 AM

Today's worklist: The Muppets On ABC is a stub work page whose creator has been messaged.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3175: May 16th 2015 at 2:03:20 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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