Is this an example?

Okay, I have a different question (again pertaining to Hanazuki)

I added an example to Plant Person that potholes to Green Thumb. Which is why I'm asking this.

Moonflowers (including the title character) have the ability to grow a magic trees (called Treasure Trees), but this power require two things

• A seed for the plant in question
• the Moonflower having an moment of strong emotion to power the seed.

I am wondering if this is actually a case of Green Thumb or an example of an "Emotion Based Superpower" trope that I don't know exists that just happened to manifests as Green Thumb like powers?

Other details on the show for context's sake

• Hanazuki's power seems limited to planting and growing the trees in question. Keeping them alive seems to require something else entirely (mainly the juice from the treasures in the trees,)
• There exists other flora on her moon, ranging from Treasure Shubbery to plants with Donuts in them to plants that can mimic other people's thoughts to a Planimal. So far her powers seem to have nothing to do with them (though the former does have me wondering)

Sounds like the result is Green Thumb regardless of how that power is achieved. That it's a limited version of Green Thumb doesn't matter that much, I believe.

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A superpower is a superpower even if there are limiting factors. We do have Emotional Powers as well, for superpowers that require some sort of emotional input, control or trigger. It sounds like both of them to me. It's not a clean example that would fall under the policy of only listing the narrower subtrope.

I'd put both of them, myself, but remember to make them individual entries — not GreenThumb/EmotionalPower combined. Something like

• Emotional Powers: Her Green Thumb only works with an emotional trigger.
• Green Thumb: explain it

edited 29th Mar '17 1:02:23 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Considering this got ignored last time, I'll say it again: is Lakewood Plaza Turbo's theme a Bragging Theme Tune?

But the heroes of Lakewood Plaza ARE READY TO FIGHT!

K.O., Rad and Enid are in battle mode

Punch and kick the bad guys 'till they all explode

Power up and fight, let's watch an episode of

LAKEWOOD PLAZA TURBO!

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Yes, it is.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

@Madrugada. Okay Will do.

Yeah.... here's the thing.... Many of those scenes are stalking behaviour.

• https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/romantic-comedies-where-stalking-meets-love/460179/
• http://www.refinery29.com/2016/01/102217/romantic-comedies-study-stalking
• https://www.bustle.com/articles/138402-11-movie-scenes-that-taught-us-stalking-is-romantic (I like this one because it points out that You've Got Mail and Sleepless in Seattle are mirrored leads)
• http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/04/stalking-behavior-not-normal/

It does bring in interesting questions! There's very minor support for it; Maurice doesn't seem to have a problem identifying the tree that was struck by lightning, but he can't identify which direction he turned after it blocked his path. This may be the spell or just stress causing him to forget the location of the castle. It is not clear either way. Heck, I'd argue on a WMG page that the spell has actually been in effect for less than a year. Not the main page, though; there isn't enough support in the work itself.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Is this example from YMMV.Phantom Planet being used correctly?:

• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Over fifty years earlier, hero vs. giant-falling-space-rock-made-of-the-one-element-that-can-harm-his-species was the plot of the most popular episode of the first superhero series in history, making it doubly tragic such a plot was so poorly done this time around.

~Anddrix: Not as it's currently written, although it might be an example. Right now, it's complaining. To be an example, it should have some content about what went wrong with the way it was handled.

No. Wait. Strike that. In the full context on the page, namely the introductory paragraph that says several things that were introduced were then mostly ignored, yes, it is.

edited 29th Mar '17 6:40:19 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Here's an example for Gaston, since he took a darker turn in the live action.

Complete Monster: Gaston, while a narcissistic boor in the original animated film, is much worse here in the live-action adaptation. At first, he seems like a Lovable Rogue, being polite and civil towards Belle, if a bit stalkerish. He even offered to help Maurice rescue Belle when he was told he was captured. As the film goes on however, it soon becomes clear that his politeness and offer to help was just a façade to make himself look good in front of Belle and Maurice so he can win Belle's hand in marriage. During the journey to save Belle, it is there he graduates from a standard Lovable Rogue to a horrible monster. When he tires of Maurice's stories, he starts violently threatening him to feed him to the wolves. Then when Maurice denies him his blessing to marry Belle, he knocks him out and ties him to a tree and leaves him to get eaten by wolves so Belle will have no one to take care of her except Gaston himself. When Maurice returns to accuse Gaston of his crime, the latter swiftly persuades the village that Maurice is crazy, even preying on his sidekick, Lefou's feelings for Gaston, in order to cover his tracks, knowing that Maurice won't last a week in the asylum. When Belle returns to prove Maurice's sanity, Gaston, who stated at the beginning that he misses the war and hunts for sport, riles the villagers up to kill the Beast so he can use him as a target for his homicidal urges. During the castle battle, he uses Lefou as a human shield to save his own skin and leaves him to die. Then during his fight with the Beast, he shoots the Beast three times, and when Belle arrives to stop him, he sadistically tells her that he will force her to marry him and mount the Beast's head on their wall, since he has a clue about her feelings for the Beast. Narcissistic, cruel, and selfish, Gaston represents the worse aspects of what the Beast would have become had he not learned to love and be loved in return.

Hang on... I confess I haven't kept strict track here, but haven't these last few pages have been trying to establish him as a Designated Villain, and now we're veering into Complete Monster? That feels like a huge 180.

I feel like a case could be made ofr Gaston being a Base-Breaking Character

He's unlikely to pass the Complete Monster vetting process; his actions are nowhere near heinous enough.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

I'll go farther: He would not pass the Complete Monster vetting process. He wouldn't even come close.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

If you think a character is a Complete Monster, I think the place to take that discussion would be the Complete Monster thread. Same if you think a character is The Scrappy. That said, ('d) he isn't either of those tropes.

edited 29th Mar '17 9:08:07 PM by WaterBlap

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty

And I'm back with another Hanazuki related question.

There is a plant, who can talk. She is able to read minds and speak the thoughts of nearby organisms, all in English (I must mention this because the Hemkas are The Unintelligible, and the crux of my question)

Would this be covered by The Empath, or does it count for Translator Buddy (despite the plant only appearing in a few episodes, one of which only with Hanazuki nearby), or Translator Microbes (I don't think this is the case, but I want to ask just in case)?

I'm having trouble parsing your question; too many pronouns I don't know where to attach.

There is a plant, who can talk. She is able to read minds and speak the thoughts of nearby organisms, all in English (I must mention this because the Hemkas are The Unintelligible, and the crux of my question)

Who is the "she"? The plant, or Hanazuki? Is 'the Hemka' the plant or Hanazuki?

Would this be covered by The Empath,

The Empath can read another character's emotions, not their thoughts. Anyway, whichever one can read thoughts is Telepathy, for sure.

or does it count for Translator Buddy (despite the plant only appearing in a few episodes, one of which only with Hanazuki nearby)

As I read that page it doesn't matter how few times the character who has the Translator Buddy appears in the work, as long as every time they appear, they have to have the Translator Buddy in order to be understood. I mean, they don't have appear a lot, but they do have to be consistent.

or Translator Microbes (I don't think this is the case, but I want to ask just in case)?

No, you're right, it's not Translator Microbes.

So, If I've sorted it out correctly: The plant (a hemka) is The Unintelligible. Hanazuki has Telepathy and acts as Translator Buddy to the plant.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

"She" refers to the mirror plant, not Hanazuki, and the Hemkas are separate characters from both. I should had cleared it up when i made the post, sorry.

To avoid further Fan Myopia I'll see if can explain them

• Hanazuki: Protagonist, title character of the show that influenced my recent posts here. Already established as a Plant Person with a limited Green Thumb ability
• The Hemkas: I can only describe them as multi colored legless Rabbids, who seem to be made of a putty like substance. (And I say this due to their ability to merge and mold themselves into different forms that resemble inanimate objects) Since I'm explaining them I want to know if Voluntary Shapeshifing applies to them
• The Mirror Plant: The subject of my last question. Able to read and mimic thoughts and change her head to match the target she is mimicking. You post would means that She would be the close to Translator Buddy, but that The Empath example was misused. Correct?

You're right that the Hemka's are The Uninteligible, but they are not the plants. Hanazuki on the other hand seem to be the opposite as she seems unable to understand the Hemkas' language (or the treasure trees), though they can understand her. It would be the Mirror Plant that has Telepathy and is the Translator Buddy.

Again I apologize for not being clear on this.

edited 30th Mar '17 2:40:37 PM by MorningStar1337

• OK, if the plant can read minds, that's Telepathy regardless of whatever else there is. Not The Empath.

• If the plant reading their thoughts and then relaying them verbally is the only way that the hemka can be understood, then the plant is a Translator Buddy to the hemka.

• It sounds like yes, the hemka have Voluntary Shapeshifting.

edited 30th Mar '17 2:42:53 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Got it. Will add the right trope (and fixed the revealed The Empath misuse int he process)

edited 30th Mar '17 2:41:33 PM by MorningStar1337

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Okay due to ing while I was editing the post, I will explain the Hemkas again and clarify:

The Hemkas: I can only describe them as multi colored legless Rabbids, who seem to be made of a putty like substance. (And I say this due to their ability to merge and mold themselves into different forms that resemble inanimate objects. The result being Animate Inanimate Objects). I want to know if Voluntary Shapeshifting applies to them or not.

edited 30th Mar '17 2:55:57 PM by MorningStar1337

Yes, the hemka have Voluntary Shapeshifting.

Animate Inanimate Object is played with, because the hemka don't actually become whatever it is, they just superficially look like it. (In Beauty and the Beast, Lumiere is an animate candelabra; Mrs Potts is an animate teapot, and so on.) It's not a subversion, exactly; I'm not sure what to call it. We don't have a named variation for that sort of thing. I guess I'd say that the hemka can cause the appearance of Animate Inanimate Objects.

edited 30th Mar '17 3:52:43 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

I see. And considering you use B&tB as an example, implying a discernible human face comes with AIO, Played With might be an Understatement.

I'll add Voluntary Shapeshifting now.

Actually now that I think about, it, Dazzlescence Jones actually fits Animate Inanimate Object better

edited 30th Mar '17 4:03:14 PM by MorningStar1337