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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1: Nov 1st 2012 at 11:22:14 AM

As was pointed out in an IP thread recently, we have the Image Source pages where tropes are organized by the works that are used as their pages pics. These pages are extremely incomplete, though, so it would be very helpful if, as you come across trope pages, you could take a minute to go to the correct subpage and update the list. Thanks!

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#2: Nov 2nd 2012 at 8:10:04 PM

Doing what I can, with regards to this.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#3: Nov 16th 2012 at 9:04:12 AM

So a question. In the case of multi-source images, would it be preferred to cite which part of the image the source is located (where applicable, like with evenly-divided images), or just toss in a generic "part of it"?

I ask because on Video Games, I had cited which part of each image belonged to the relevant source, but then somebody went through and undid all of that with "part of it". It took me nearly the entire grace period to fix that (since there's no handy "revert" feature like Wikipedia has, AFAIK). Obviously, I should apply this to other medium subpages if it's the former (which I can do, just not right this second; 20 minutes is too much time wasted when I'm at work).

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#4: Nov 16th 2012 at 9:38:42 AM

[up] I would think specific would be better, although not necessarily required.

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#5: Nov 21st 2012 at 8:46:03 AM

Um... what page should I attribute Arm Cannon to Transformers on? That one kinda of ran the gamut of media. Toys, TV show, comics... if it were obviously the film, I'd put it there, but it's not the film.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#6: Nov 21st 2012 at 9:34:11 AM

[up] Generation 1 since that's the version of Megatron that's being used.

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#7: Nov 21st 2012 at 12:30:29 PM

[up] Alright, based on that I put it under WesternAnimation.The Transformers. Seems about right.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#8: Dec 13th 2012 at 9:55:05 AM

So what would Awesome McCoolname be considered?

edited 13th Dec '12 9:55:18 AM by ShadowHog

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Dec 13th 2012 at 9:56:17 AM

Looks like Real Life to me. After all, the name fits the trope even if you aren't really aware of Batman or Superman.

edited 13th Dec '12 9:57:09 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#10: Dec 13th 2012 at 10:08:16 AM

Well, there's there's ImageSource.Other, which has:

  • "Advertising" (no)
  • "Arts" (no)
  • "Cosplay" (no)
  • "Crossover" (no)
  • "Myths & Legends" (he wishes)
  • "Photography" (maybe, but it'd be a stretch)
  • "Print Media" (I don't think so)
  • "Pro Wrestling" (no)
  • "Theater" (no)
  • "Theme Parks" (no)
  • "Toys" (no)
  • "Troper-Made" (this has been floating about the Internet for a while, so no).

It doesn't seem to fit anything squarely. Would this just be Photography?

edited 13th Dec '12 10:16:35 AM by ShadowHog

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#11: Dec 13th 2012 at 2:00:34 PM

Real Life.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#12: Dec 13th 2012 at 2:32:30 PM

[up] There isn't a Real Life section, is what I'm getting at here. (Probably should've explicitly said it.)

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#13: Dec 13th 2012 at 2:42:25 PM

Then Photography. But a Real Life section would make sense.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#14: Dec 14th 2012 at 1:50:09 PM

I have no clue where to put President Evil (great trope name, btw. Kudos to whoever thought of it). It's potholed to Cthulhu Mythos, which is...not particularly helpful.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#15: Dec 14th 2012 at 2:11:19 PM

Looks like it came from erepublic.com, "an immersive multiplayer strategy game based on real life countries." here. The properties for the picture on that page shows a photobucket account, so I'm guessing it was made by the person who made the post, as well.

That would make it what, Web Original? New Media?

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#16: Dec 14th 2012 at 2:39:16 PM

Video Games—that's where our page on it is.

It would probably be a good idea to change the pothole on the trope page as well to reflect that. My thought is, pothole the image to ERepublik, pothole the first and second parts of the caption to Cthulhu Mythos (for context) and The Spoony Experiment (I assume the caption text is a quote), and possibly include a link to the original post in the source. Thoughts?

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#18: Dec 14th 2012 at 2:55:43 PM

Done. Thanks for the help.

ETA: I Read It for the Articles' page image is a t-shirt design. Where should I put it?

edited 14th Dec '12 5:26:20 PM by MissMokushiroku

m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#19: Jan 17th 2013 at 1:55:47 PM

Added sources to some of the tropes on ImageSource.Art. Just saying something is Art isn't a source. I used a "Trope ([work] by [artist])" format as most of these works shouldn't be on multiple pages per Duplicate image which makes the "* work \\ ** Trope \\ ** Trope" pointless.

There is still some missing sources and the page need some other work too. Noticed that there is some book illustrations on Art that probably should be moved to ImageSource.Literature. There is also some stuff that looks like clipart. Can the clip art be moved to Other or something?

edited 17th Jan '13 11:47:11 PM by m8e

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#20: Feb 1st 2013 at 9:33:45 AM

How are we dealing with image sources that don't have pages here?

For example,

The Sheriff is from The Guns of Shadow Valley, which I can't find a TV Tropes page for.

edited 1st Feb '13 9:34:51 AM by Catbert

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Feb 1st 2013 at 9:36:38 AM

Pothole it to the page the work would be put under.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#22: Feb 1st 2013 at 9:40:31 AM

Also, would tie in merchandise be linked to the original series or what?

U.S. Marshal is from a Gunsmoke lunchbox, if I recall correctly.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#24: May 11th 2013 at 1:51:26 AM

I have noticed that some images have been sourced under what they illustrate instead of what work they come from.

ImageSource.Literature is for book covers and illustrations from books. I think none of the images sourced to Literature.The Bible comes from "The bible". They should be moved to ImageSource.Art or wherever they actually comes from.

And I'm not seeing any reason to have the The Myths & Legends folder in ImageSource.Other. Classical Mythology, Norse Mythology and Tanabata isn't works.

Norse Mythology:

edited 11th May '13 1:56:48 AM by m8e

DunDun Wandering... Since: Apr, 2012
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#25: May 17th 2013 at 9:07:05 AM

[up]Right, 'cause most of them are inspired by—they're not actually from.

I think that the only images that should be sourced to the actual mythologies would be work created during a time history tells us was the source of that religion (such as images created during the beginning of Mormonism or Scientology or Christianity, etc.). For things like Norse Mythology, the only images that would be from that time would be old tablets and statues. As far as voting goes, moving pieces of art inspired by mythologies to Art has my vote, but I don't think work originating from the known beginning of the mythology should be attributed to Art.


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