The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Trust me, after reading it, you will wind up feeling sorry for Gardevoir.

^^^And that was omitting a lot

edited 13th Jul '12 1:19:17 AM by Adannor

Wow, so much has been happening since I was last here.

But anyway, when I had a spare moment I took a look at Hentai Kamen.

See The Wikipedia page Demographic is assuredly shounen if it ran in Weekly Shōnen Jump like it says (wow), and it ran from 1992 – 1993. I think if that's the case it's really unlikely to contain anything we would want to cut.

First, it stars a high school student. Really he looks plenty old enough so it should be all right on that front.

Nothing even remotely bad happens in the first 14 pages. Then his mother shows up and it turns out she works at an S&M place and likes wearing the outfits apparently. Then she beats him to show him her talents at S&M. Nothing is shown although after the beating he is missing his shirt (it took place off screen). Then later there's a robbery and the main character strips down to his pants, puts a pair of panties over his face and awakens his "perverted blood", allowing him to be ever so slightly superhuman and throwing the bad guys off balance.

There are some attempted molestations, but... Okay, to be frank, no one is going to read this for titillation (okay, almost no-one) and it doesn't have anything that would appeal to paedophiles more than your average high school manga.

I suggest it can stay. It's... Eh. Well, it's a widget series. It's about a guy who runs around saving people wearing panties on his face as a mask, defeating petty criminals using some sort of S&M/Kenpo/insanity hybrid. It's from an era of significantly less pandering in manga and in fact I'm surprised I was able to find such an old (and weird) manga so easily.

I read through the entire first volume, I'll guarantee you we could keep that much, and the rest is unlikely to be any different. Most disturbing thing? Bondage-rope-tied slightly overweight wrestler-themed would-be-rapist bulging out of the ropes constricting him in every spot you would expect.

edited 13th Jul '12 1:51:39 AM by UltimatelySubjective

I'm seconding the proposal to keep Hentai Kamen, from what I recall. (Okay, I read a lot of weird stuff when I was younger.) It's not hentai / porn, and it's not paedo-pandering. It's just a really weird ("hentai") guy wearing underwear on his face as a mask ("kamen") and fighting crime in a hilariously vulgar manner.

Komodin, on the last List of Works/Tropes To Be Axed/Saved, Jungle De Ikou should have 2 Angelheads not 2 Devilheads.

edited 13th Jul '12 1:51:28 AM by captainpat

Oops, my bad. I might as well post an update here:

• Page 1:
  • The Spiderses: 1 Angelhead, 2 Devilheads.
  • Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka: 2 Angelheads, 1 Devilhead.
  • Litchi Hikari Club: 2 Angelheads, 1 Devilhead.
  • FaCe ThE StRaNgE: 2 Angelheads, 1 Devilhead.
  • Bliss Stage: Love Is Your Weapon: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.

• Page 2:
  • Ironwood: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
  • Touhou: 2 Angelheads, 1 Devilheads.
  • Noodles: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
  • Cybersix: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Morefuyu: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.

• Page 3:
  • Jungle de Ikou!: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Sengoku Rance: 1 Angelhead, 2 Devilheads.
  • Iron Virgin Jun: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
  • Sundome: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Animamundi Dark Alchemist: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Da Capo: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Showgirls: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.
  • Wicked City: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.

Page 4:

• Spunky Knight: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
• Shiro: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
• Maka Maka : O Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
• Hoshizora no Memoria: 0 Angelheads, 2 Devilheads.
• Dream Hunter Rem: 2 Angelheads, 0 Devilheads.

edited 13th Jul '12 1:59:01 AM by Komodin

Yeah, from Google it looks like a bog-standard Sentai. Nothing specifically pornographic there.

Wikipedia summary just lists a panty over the head, and even then the "power" was from the protagonist's mother not the panty.

On Ironwood, from a quick Google scan it seems to be pornographic without being porn. Sources:

• http://www.eroticcomic.info/ironwood.html
• http://www.comicsblog.it/post/5001/ironwood-la-storia-erotica-di-un-arrapato-dave-dragavon-by-bill-willingham

edited 13th Jul '12 2:09:49 AM by SeptimusHeap

Errr...can I ask why Fanvid/Touhou has a devilhead? If there's a problematic entry on that list, wouldn't it be better to just cut that one link?

That's probably Martello's vote. I gave it an Angelhead.

Gotta wonder why that page even exists.

^And why shouldn't it? It just needs a little cleanup from the nsfw vids, is all.

edited 13th Jul '12 2:41:45 AM by Adannor

Well, it's kinda like a Fanfic Recommendations page...just for videos.

Also, with how many prolific Touhou fan-animators out there, it's nice to see who made what video.

ShootTheShaggyDog.Comic Books got flagged. That shouldn't be there, so.

I'll be honest here Komodin, I don't see how you view Meloetta as child-like, at all. I agree with your decision to devilhead it, mostly because despite being so...comedic, there's just too much sex, but in my eyes Meloetta doesn't look child-like. Especially given her hands, feet, and, well, EVERYTHING really. Not to mention most pokemon are smaller than humans, so the size of Meloetta can't be the issue here.

Basically, if it looks human, people're gonna relate to it somehow.

Anyways, can someone explain to me what exactly is the problem concerning Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka As far as I know, it's just your basic shonen fantasy fighting series. It's even licensed by Funimation for broadcast outside of Japan.

edited 13th Jul '12 5:54:15 AM by Raidouthe21st

If Meloetta Icing Fetish is pornography, it's going, whether it's paedo-pandering or not.

I don't think anyone is arguing to keep that page.

Yeah, that one's starts off with sex in the first and second chapter. Nothing to save there.

Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka gives several poorly-clothed girls, but the naked bits don't seem to be the focus of the shots.

According to Wikipedia, the manga is Shonen and runs in ''Monthly Dragon Age"

edited 13th Jul '12 7:34:05 AM by SeptimusHeap

Since it's been resolved to restore Bleached Underpants versions of Variable Geo, I've recreated the page for the games at VideoGame.Advanced Variable Geo. The H-Games only get a token mention now, but there wasn't much pertaining to them even before. The OVA will be at Anime.Variable Geo.

That looks good, but it probably needs a note at the bottom of the description to indicate that examples should only be listed for the non-H Games.

Ironwood is a high fantasy comic, with a random couple of pages of sex inserted into it. It's largely focused on plot. The biggest reason it initially got devil heads was because it stars an "immature dragon" who is not old enough to transform from a human into a dragon. Said character looks, acts, and is depicted as a twenty-something adult. He's just not old enough to transform. It's not paedopandering though by any stretch of the imagination.

Ok, so let's do some research:

• Paladin of Shadows: Has a page on John Ringo Wikia. Seems that the protagonist has some BDSM, but there is a significant plot. No mention of children so far.
• Paint The Town: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Paint The Town (Probably NSFW, even tough it isn't tagged as such on the page) Basically, a Harry Potter + The Lord Of The Rings crossover porn with no plot to redeem it.
• Beating The Heat: MLP:FIM fic. Doesn't seem to be porn, from a perlustration of the fic on fanfiction net. It's rated Teen on fimfiction.net
• Demonbane: Has a shonen manga, but the game is rated 15+ by CERO and 18+ by PC (from Wikipedia)

I just got finished reading the Demonbane VN not that long ago. You're going to need to restrict it to the clean version since the main love interest looks, I dunno, maybe twelve or so. Doesn't act it, but appearancewise she's definitely over the line. There are a few others like that who appear in random scenes. There's a clean port of the VN and a clean anime, so the entire page doesn't have to go, but you need to know that part too.

By the way last time I looked at the page only one or two enters looked like they might need to go.

Edit:OK it might have a few more then that but it still looks like an easy clean up.

edited 13th Jul '12 11:03:37 AM by shadis

It's perfectly possible to keep Demonbane, but it needs a clean-up to get rid of the 18+ version (or the questionable material that appears there, since it is the only version that we have in English). While it started as a 18+ VN and one of the main love interests looks like a 12 year-old girl, it has a port for the PS 2, as well as an anime and a 15+ sequel (no 18+ for this one).

Literally, the only problematic bit is about Al (I think that was her name), there's nothing else questionable about the VN (have read this one as well).

edited 13th Jul '12 2:08:06 PM by Marche90