Obelix is not a shapeshifter, so that usage is also incorrect. He doesn't have a different form, and he's fat because he's a glutton (just like e.g. the chief), not because of the potion.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!"Mode Lock" as we know it is a term coined by the Transformers fandom. It's fairly opaque in that it's only the Transformers who refer to their current form as a 'mode'.
This is a tough one to rank on Google because "mode-locking" is a pre-existing term far removed from a trope and Google keeps popping up coincidental combinations of "mode" and "lock" (even with double-quotes). "Mode lock" transform returns only about 45,000, and outside TV Tropes and one or two Transformers links, all I'm really seeing is real-world technical stuff not the trope. Adding "-tropes" to the search pops up a different #1 but that's about it.
"Mode lock" shapeshift is about as helpful, showing fewer than 2000 for any variant of the term "shapeshifting".
Now as for renames, Shapeshifter Mode Lock is far better in the clarity department — preserves the pre-existing fanterm while adding that it's a Phlebotinum Breakdown unique to shapeshifters.
edited 13th Aug '11 10:24:39 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Shapeshifter Mode Lock would probably get the point across.
she her hers hOI!!! i'm tempeShapeshifter Mode Lock gets the bit of the trope that people have been missing across.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickIf there's any objections, I have a SP crowner ready and waiting.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/SingleProposition/ModeLock
edited 13th Aug '11 10:35:21 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Your crowner says that it's an existing term from Trans Formers. But actually, it's an existing term from laser physics as well as remote control design. Its common usage outside of T Vtropes has absolutely nothing to do with Trans Formers.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!"Mode lock" is far too general a term to be used for something this specific. I Thought It Meant....
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.... I'm having second thoughts about my giving the URL for the crowner considering nobody has objected to the idea yet.
@Spark: Yeah, my Google searches turned up a lot of that.
edited 14th Aug '11 12:22:10 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Crowner seems to be at 10 to zero to rename, and I believe it's been three days. Granted, most of that time was over a weekend, so it' up to you guys if you want to leave it for another day or so.
EDIT: It appears I'm mistaken, we've got until Tuesday either way.
edited 15th Aug '11 7:41:53 PM by Wulf
They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?I never had an issue with the name; I got it immediately. That said, if the proposed new name is Shapeshifter Mode Lock, then I think it's acceptable.
In the meantime, cleaning up wicks that should be for Power Incontinence sounds like a good idea.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.Shapeshifter Mode Lock is the one most people seem in favour of. It's just adding an extra word for clarity and helping deter the current misuse.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickThis was definitely too early to start a crowner.
That said, I'm willing to rename based on the misuse, although I'm confused as to why we care about some technical physics term. Really? You think people are going to think, "Oh, I thought you meant the trope about synchronized laser oscillation, sorry."
Rhymes with "Protracted."Yeah, the misuse one is the only one that really matters to me either.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI did a site search for [codegeass modelock] and changed every instance of Mode Lock in a Code Geass context I could find into Power Incontinence. I think I got all of them (23 cases, all in all).
edited 16th Aug '11 8:28:39 PM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.At any rate, the crowner's been stable for about 5 days and it's sitting at a 6.25:1 ratio, so I think it's safe to call it. We should throw around some new names unless there's unanimous support for just slapping "Shapeshifter" on the front and being done with it.
edited 18th Aug '11 2:36:11 AM by Wulf
They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?Slap "shapeshifter" in front of it and be done with it.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Strong support, no voiced objections, let's do this.
Done
- Page moved
- Laconic/ and Playing With/ counterparts moved
- Updated 1 index (Shapeshifting)
Not done
- Discussion/special pages (if any)
- Index search/replace
- Wikilink search/replace
edited 18th Aug '11 9:03:08 PM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Instead of "shapeshifter" why not "transformation"? Transformation Lock sounds good.
... We could of debated on a title before just renaming.
edited 18th Aug '11 7:39:57 AM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Darn it all; where were you last weekend?
I'm slightly against Transformation Lock because of the whole ability-versus-event distinction. Remember when I threw Involuntary Shapeshifting into TRS? It was getting misused specifically because of this distinction — 50 percent of the time.
And the page quote isn't an example, it specifically describes a Baleful Polymorph. Having a bad page quote just adds to confusion.
So, still to do:
- exorcise misuse from wikilinks
edited 18th Aug '11 8:00:49 AM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Shapeshifter doesn't really capture the whole trope like transformation does as most people would think it's restricted to well Stereotypical shapeshifters and not connect it with other transforming stuff like Transforming Mecha (like the former trope namer) and such.
Also don't really see a reason why this should be restricted to voluntary ones. The trope happens to involuntary ones too.
edited 18th Aug '11 8:08:27 AM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!No, when someone has been forcibly changed into a shape outside of their will and can't normally turn back on their own, it's not this trope. So it doesn't happen to characters that have been transformed.
Transforming Mecha fall under what we call shapeshifters as they can shift both ways.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickSomeone getting shot with a Gender Bender ray then asking the person who did it to reverse it only for the gun to run out of juice so he is stuck like that till it recharges (which blows up after it's done charging), sounds this trope.... from To Love RU (it happens often), things happened a lot like Ranma or Gacha Gacha's Mode Lock both of which are kinda involuntary too (former requires water and the latter requires a sneeze.)
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
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Vote up for yes, down for no.
Seems to be suffering from a bit of misuse. Had to remove an example on Firefly of a character "being seemingly unable to not be a manipulative bitch" as well as on the Prinny page for "Can't switch weapons if you use this DLC", rather than for what it is- "Shapeshifter is unable to shift out of (or into) a certain form." It's possible that these are just isolated incidents, and I'll need to check the wicks to know for sure if misuse is widespread or not
Mode Lock found in: 353 articles, excluding discussions.
This title has brought 151 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.
35 random wicks from A-M:
Results: 9 incorrect (~25%), 4 more that look incorrect (Would be ~37%). It should be noted that a third of the definitely incorrect ones come from the same series (Code Geass), two more from another.
If we go for a change, I support a minor one to something like Shapeshifter Mode Lock
They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?