Are these sub tropes?: Fanservice

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that a trope that is a Sub-Trope still has to fit in it's Super-Trope. A lot tropes listed as Sub tropes of Fanservice are highly dependent on how the trope is used in a specific. For a Qipao can by designed in a provocative manner or in the traditional non-sexualized manner, and Body Paint, well that would depend on which body part is painted.

Here are the tropes that stand out to me.

Ass Kicks You

Bandage Babe

Beauty Contest

Body Paint

Fan Disservice

Gag Penis

Hot Chick In A Badass Suit

Kimono Fanservice

Maid Corps

Qipao

Sharp-Dressed Man

Sleep Cute

Stocking Filler

Transformation Sequence

edited 10th May '11 3:29:03 PM by captainpat

I don't think it has to always be a subtrope to something to get on the index.

It's not an index, though.

That's a fair point. It shouldn't be a list of "subtropes" then, it should be "common ways of doing this" instead.

Why isn't this an index?

And Fan Disservice is the opposite, not a subtrope.

Maybe we need a Fanservice Tropes index, just like we have both Split Personality and a separate Split Personality Tropes index.

We already have it, its Turn On Tropes

No, that's explicitly Fetish Fuel Tropes. Fetish Fuel and Fanservice are distinct enough.

Bump

I thought tvtropes no longer collected Fetish Fuel

edited 31st May '11 8:27:36 AM by captainpat

You are correct. We no longer collect examples of people's fetishes. Those go to the FF Wiki.

That leaves the question, Why do we have lists of TurnOnTropes and Fanservice tropes?

edited 1st Jun '11 5:11:59 PM by pokedude10

Because writers still use them as tropes. Without direct Word of God, its subjective on whether it was intentional, and its of course subjective on whether you actually like it. But it is definitely, obviously, used.

Then just make a separate list for tools of Fanservice tools that aren't clear subtropes?

Bump.

Another related issue: What's the difference between Fanservice's index of tropes and Rule of Sexy's subtropes? Or to put another way, what's the difference between Fanservice and Rule of Sexy?

edited 23rd Jun '11 7:06:03 PM by MarqFJA

Kimono Fanservice may be subtler than most other Fanservice tropes out there, but it's still a pure Fanservice page. There's Kimono Is Traditional which covers the other major use of kimonos in media.

Man, talk about index decay. Rule of Sexy is supposed to be about fanservice tropes that are not practical, safe, or physical possible. I really have no clue why some of those tropes indexed there.

If that what it was supposed to be, then you can't really tell that from the name alone IMO.

Actually, I can see the logic in that - most Rule of Index tropes are "things that don't make sense in reality are justified because they're cool/funny/et cetera".

I did say "most".

edited 28th Jun '11 6:35:21 PM by nrjxll

I already brought this up a while ago on a much older thread. Rule of Index tropes are NOT limited to those criteria. Take Off Every Zig is a perfectly realistic thing, but it falls under Rule of Cool because it's better to show it than to not show it.

edited 28th Jun '11 4:04:42 PM by DragonQuestZ

There has been a request to lock the thead. It has been moribund since June. Complying.