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Makai Kingdom is the meta-verse for all Nippon Ichi games
The main characters are all in Hell.
...wait a minute.
The setting takes place an unimaginably long time after the Blood War ended.
An infinite number of combinations of Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil Hells battling for supremacy. It was to last forever; but nothing is forever. An infinite number of combinations will eventually lead to new ideas. Ideals clashed, destroyed each other, fused, fizzled out; evolved. There are still some of the greater evils left; and many of the Overlords are still fighting each other for supremacy but nothing as organized as the Baatezu or the Tanar'ri. The Blood War ended; not with a bang, not with a whimper, the eternal Wheel of Time merely lead to them becoming their own worlds.
Flonne was evil all along.
Angels are just a subset of Demons who decided to make their world more pleasant.
They also get Prinnies, and Laharl is able to create them as troops if he satisfies certain conditions. Thus Flonne "falling" was just a case of simple transmigration. This would also explain the above example; the other Angels other than Lamington are either insane or clinically depressed, due to not quite being what they think they are. Flonne is just "evil" enough not to be bothered, and happy no matter what she calls herself.
Laharl's Netherworld is one of many that's become taken over by "human" Demons and their descendants.
Humans can become Demon Lords and Demon Overlords if they kill enough non-humanoid demons. In many of the Netherworlds, Laharl's included, it's the Humanoid Demons who form a dynasty; and Laharl's mother was a human, yet nobody calls him "half-human." Makai Kingdom characters suffered some cognitive dissonance over this; they apparently justify it as Demon being how you act, not your origins.
Chou Maou Pearl isn't just Baal, he's Legion. He's Legion who has possessed Baal. As we learned in Makai Kingdom, "Baal" just possesses another body whenever his current one is destroyed, and this usually includes other demons; he has a special affinity to Prinnies, though. Then in Disgaea 2 we discover he can possess more than one body at a time. For he is many.
The Disgaea series takes place in an infinitly more idealistic version of the Warhammer 40000 Universe
"Demonicity" sprang from a single source that shattered near the beginning of time. Demons are shards of that power; held in check by the free will of their souls.
Like a Black Magic big bang, pieces of this (Let's call it the Angra Manyu) spread across the multiverse; coalescing into various Powers and monsters. The "monstrous" demons are likely to be original models. But as humans became stronger, they started to defeat demons and absorb the trait themselves; creating humanoid demons like the main cast of Disgaea and Makai Kingdom. Demons can get more power and advance their titles by defeating others; but as they do so they run the risk of the "original will" taking them over. Baal is/are the largest chunk(s) leftover from the beginning; lesser chunks such as Sulphur from Phantom Brave also exist.
Similarly the Makai of Touhou is also part of the Nippon Ichi multiverse
Princess Sapphire is a tiefling.
IE, a human with some demon blood in her lineage. Hence her unbelievable strength, bizarre star eyes, and tendency towards overthetop bloodthirsty acts belied with good-naturedness.
Princess Sapphire is part-fey.
Princess Sapphire is part-angel.
Firstly, Sapphire is adept at healing and bows, just like angels, and her personality is sweet and innocent (startlingly so, all things considered), much like Flonne is. In addition, her overwhelming strength can be attributed to the angel blood in her veins- after all, the power of an angel is the same as the power of a demon! Because she didn't grow up under the teachings of Celestia, her heart developed more along the lines of a demon, which explains her affinity for axes and violent tendencies. Design wise, Sapphire has a blue and white colour scheme, which thematically matches the tier 1 angel (especially the fluffy parts of her dress), so that further supports this theory.
Mid-Boss is everywhere.
Prism Red's voice in the English version of Disgaea 3 sounds familiar, doesn't it? It may not be the same Prism Red who was in the first two games. After all, one of the homeroom teachers in the game is a zombie, claiming to be the "original" Prism Red, so we know that there has been more than one set of Prism Rangers.
You might be saying the fact that Mid-Boss is now a downloadable character disproves any theories that he might actually be the new Prism Red. I say it's just a clever ruse to throw the scent off the trail. I mean, he has shown in at least two of his special moves that he can duplicate himself, so who's to say he can't create at least one sentient doppelganger?
And for that matter, with the above theory that Baal is Legion... have you ever seen Mid-Boss and Baal in the same scene? It has been mentioned multiple times that they have fought at least once, but the fight itself is never shown, only described.
Adell is not a Demon, he's an Elf. (At least in some endings)
Laharl is a 1,316 year demon, but he looks like a 13 year old kid, implying that demons age much slower than humans. While Elves (depending on the story) also age slower than humans, they reach physical maturity at more-or-less the same rate as a human, thus allowing him to pass as such. Of course, this doesn't apply if the particular ending specifically says he is a demon... As for his unnatural level of power compared to most humans, I believe we have a trope for that. The reason we don't see any other elves is because demons are Genre Savvy enough to Argue With Elves and get away with it.
Dark Elves are Demons.
We're talking old school Norse/Germanic legend here. There's a lot of brands of demons in the Nippon Ichi verse; they're not all the same species. The magic-using, long-lived, Pointed Ears, bizarre morality'ed version are Dark Elves. Age appearance is either dependent on self-image or possibly how much human blood is in their lineage.
Raspberyl is a Half-Humanoid Hybrid.
Her parents are a Monster-class Demon and a Humanoid-class Demon. Hence her being a Monster-class, yet looking humanoid; and her having horns. She ages slower than other humanoid Demons; hence her loli state. This set her apart enough that she figured "Screw it, if I'm gonna be different; than I'm going to be different all the way." So she became a delinquent. Her friendship with Kyoko and Asuka stems from them being rebels in the sense of their friendship together. Ninja and Samurai have distinct cultures All There in the Manual; its likely they have a rivalry.
Adell is no longer a demon due to his "Demon Hunter" title.
A central concept in Disgaea 3 is that Almaz, having lost his title of "hero", is transforming into a demon despite being originally human — being given a title of "demon in training" is enough to trigger a transformation from human to demon. On the flip side, this could mean that, having never known he is a pureblood demon and taken the title of "demon hunter", Adell has been transformed by his title and become human as a result. The Veldime curse still doesn't affect him because he's not a resident of that world.
According to Something Awful Forums, Aurum's the protagonist of one of those games that when the player dies, the king revives him or her and takes half of the gold.
Demons look as old physically as they are mentally.
Note that despite being Really 700 Years Old, Laharl and Etna still act a lot like little kids. Likewise, Mao and Beryl are teenagers. It takes mental maturity for a demon to reach adulthood, and the kind of issues the protagonists often have are counterproductive to this.
Baal is Gozer
They're both ancient, highly feared, supernatural beings who change their forms each time they emerge, and both have transformed into something that looks completely harmless, but is really even more dangerous than the previous form. It's not too hard to imagine that Baal sometimes enters the human world under a different name. There is the question of why Vinz Clortho and Zuul don't follow him in the Netherworld, but given the fact that they're statues until it's time to summon "Gozer", they probably just remain as statues while Baal roams the Netherworld.
Adell has a birth defect affecting the shape of his ears .
They're round, unlike most demons. Adell chooses not to think; but not that much.
The events from La Pucelle are directly responsible for the entire plot of Disgaea
King Kricheveskoy had sealed off Baal in the human world of La Pucelle. However, during that time, Priere and co crashed into the Dark Shrine and proceeded to kick the living daylights out of the original Baal, breaking the seal to get in, thus allowing him to leave the seal and switch bodies. That set off Kricheveskoy's fight against Baal, which eventually killed him, but not before resealing the new Baal, possibly locking up more entries to that same world, such as Priere's Netherworld and Marjoly's Castle (since they all belong in the same multiverse).
The Earth Defense Force from is the same as the one from Red Faction
The Heroic Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? is a piece of Baal.
Supposedly the singular Prinny is really a collective 1000. Yet the one that's "in charge" has the same personality; always. Whenever one falls, the soul just goes to the next one. The Scarf is really a Restraining Bolt that Etna came up with with the side effect of stopping Sir Sweet. Seriously, do you really think Sir Sweet was such a threat Etna had to sneak attack him? No, her actual task was keeping the Baal piece occupied.
Why would Etna do this? Baal killed King Krichevskoy; she'd hate Baal with a passion. Because she has a plan. NOTHING kills Baal. He always comes back; his soul possessing some other body. But...what if, he were redeemed? If he paid the Prinny price of the Netherworld, and his soul reformatted by the Red Moon; he would be absorbed back into the cycle of life; his powers gone. And results mean far more to Etna.
Veldime didn't just automatically snap back when the Curse ended.
There was demon traffic there even before the Curse; and during there were plenty of beings who traveled to and from it. It's also possibly the Snap Back that happened to Hanako and Taro happened to most of the demonic children born during the Curse. And even if most of the beings did turn human, there's a serious network of beliefs and traditions the classes established; Healers, Fighters, Thieves all had guilds. "And it all went away" is unlikely.
Gordon and Jennifer aren't human anymore.
There's actually more than one theory on this one, but it's mostly based on the curious fact that they're of the Monster Class in Disgaea 3 who can Magichange:
Prinnies that were generally good in their past life are 'rewarded' in their prinny life by being distinguishable from their murderous kin.
Simply put, Prinnies who were decent people in their past life and only missed being reincarnated because of ether their dying actions as was the case with Laharl's Mother or by them not being totally virtuous say what you want of Asagi and Kurtis but they weren't exactly the biggest assholes to grace the N1 canon are reincarnated into a Prinny but instead of being made into the standard blue Prinny they instead take on some degree of features from their past life, typically having the voice they had in their previous life, becoming the color of hair they were in their past life and taking on another distinguishable feature. They may also be able to not end their sentences with the standard dood/-ssu.
Adell is a Malakim
Hmm... Fallen Being who nevertheless remains good because of his oaths? The chains and blackened wings are invisible.
Adell has a Demon Form, only accessible should he choose to activate it. And learn how.
His parents mention that Shura and Serion had to change back into Demon Form to go fight Zenon. So presumably they were in human form when they had Adell and he's been that his whole life.
The only thing that separates Humanoid-class characters from Monster-class characters is the ability and/or willingness to lift and grip objects.
Gordon and Jennifer may be Monster-class characters in Disgaea 2 and 3 because the objects and weapons in Veldime and Evil Academy might just be too heavy for them. Same deal with Raspberyl, who uses her book for all of her attacks. Others, such as Mid-Boss, Vulcanus, and Aurum might be able to, but simply choose not to for various reasons. For example, Longinus is described as Krichevskoy's old spear, and Krichevskoy is Mid-Boss, so we all know that Mid-Boss is perfectly capable of wielding one of the best spears in the game, and Mid-Boss' refusal to use anything other than his fists may just be another way to throw off suspicion. Meanwhile, Aurum is constantly holding a pair of swords in his One-Winged Angel form, so maybe he's just too attached to those particular swords to equip any other weapon.
Hell and Heaven are entirely different from the Netherworld and Celestia
This would explain why the demons refer to Hell as if it were a different place, and why God (who is mentioned indirectly by the angels, and in Etna Mode) is apparently absent from Celestia.
Overlord Zenon became a being like Baal at the end of Disgaea 2.
If a mere human becomes an Overlord by killing 1000 demons, what would happen to a demon who kills 1000 overlords? Or an Overlord who kills that many Overlords? The fake Zenon was merely the last Overlord to be killed before Zenon fully became an Eldritch Abomination akin to Baal. Think about it. When Baal dies he jumps to the nearest body available, and presumably the strongest if at all possible. What happens when Zenon(in Rozalin) is killed by Adell in the Worst Ending? She jumps into Adells body, continuing to live. Of course this only makes Adells victory via smooch all the more Glorious.
Humans, Angels, and humanoid Demons are the same thing.
The difference being slight mutations and slightly different powers which is more about the world they live in then anything else. After all, humans and angels both have turned into demons, and perhaps the reverse is true.
Champloo is an old friend of Mao's father.
This is actually confirmed in the Mid-Boss DLC. Mid-Boss was friends with both of them.
(Real) Zenon is a female actually.
But fake Zenon is a male, of course.
Laharl was born to constantly kick Baal's ass
I'd go as far as saying he has "Baal senses". Every time Laharl shows up, Baal always ends up as the bonus boss. This happens in Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdom, Disgaea 2, Disgaea 3, and Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero?. And then in the Updated Rerelease of La Pucelle, he subverts time and space to get him, Etna, and Flonne into the game just so that he can kick Baal's ass. Yes, it could be his popularity bringing him back all the time, but then why do you think he doesn't show up in any of the crossover games? Only Etna and a Prinny show up in Cross Edge and the Japanese-only Trinity Universe has only Etna, Flonne, and a Prinny. It's pretty obvious why: Baal didn't show up, thus the crossover games were not worth his time. Yes, there's Soul Nomad & the World Eaters, but he didn't stick around for long. He just complained about Revya taking the title of Overlord lightly before quickly leaving him/her and Gig. And remember in Disgaea 3 when Laharl said that before he went to the Evil Academy he was fighting Baal until he somehow escaped? Where do you think he was fighting him? It's possible that Baal was planning on showing up in Soul Nomad to challenge Revya and Gig, but upon seeing Laharl again, he ran off into another game because he was so tired of fighting Laharl all the time. Laharl, with his Baal senses, noticed this and chased him to Evil Academy. Screen time might be Laharl's secondary objective, but it's pretty damn clear that his primary reason for his constant appearances in most games after his debut in Disgaea: Hour of Darkness is to kick Baal's ass wherever he goes.
Succubi aren't constantly Gainaxing to seduce, but because they are on a permanent sugar rush.
I know that this is a bit of stretch, but I have made some observations:
The real overlord Zenon is male
He just reincarnated to female.
There is no set canon for the Disgaea trio post-Disgaea 1
Disgaea Infinite seems to imply that all of their later cameos are based on the game's different endings and are not connected at all. One ending has Laharl eat Etna's pudding, causing her to quit and go to another Netherworld. Another has Etna trap Laharl in a strange looking bottle.
Every ending of each game is true
Its a multiverse. Each time a game comes to an end, the dimension branches, one new timeline for each potential ending, explaining the above mutually-exclusive-cameos problem. References from one cameo to another may be due to diverged timelines joining back up hypertime style.
Baal isn't just a body-hopping Dimension Lord, he's an Eldritch Abomination.
Think about it.
All beings have the capacity to become like Baal.
All humans/angels can become demons. All sufficiently powerful demons can become Overlords. All Overlords have the capacity to become pseudo-Lovecraftian horrors,like Zenon, or worse, like Baal.
Alternatively, all beings like this ARE Baal. Using their great powers, they traveled back in time and combined to become Baal. Meaning...Baal's strength is multiplied by a factor of 1000 by the second every second. Zenon was merely another potential "candidate".
Baal is a Prinny/Eyringa.
He's not hopping to a spare body, so much as returning to his original body while his Mobile Suit Ogre is being rebuilt.
Rozalin/Adell is an Overlord
Perhaps not a particularly strong overlord, but an overlord none the less. Since titles and ranks transfer from the loser to victor, Beating the (Fake) Overlord Zenon granted Overlord Status. Now as to WHO exactly gets the title is somewhat up to debate. While Rozalin dealt the killing blow, Adell did basically take him down for the most part, which may be all that is needed for the title transfer.
The massive demon in the Vasa Aergun attack is Mao's true form
His father is HUGE, but Mao's only the size of an average demon. But in Makai Kingdom, we saw the equally colossal Babylon transform into a humanoid form during his battle against Zetta. Thus, it's not hard to imagine that Mao's father could do the same thing. Vasa Aergun is Mao's technique of surging up to his true size and power. However, Mao is still a kid by demon standards, and considering how hard he had to work to get Vasa Aergun in the first place, it might be that he can only sustain the attack for a short time.
Or, more likely, he sticks human sized because of the lack of Colossal Overlord-sized Slaystations. Hexbox360s, however, would probably be just oversized enough though.
Not my theory. I do not take credit for it.
Flonne has been turned back into an angel because of some calamity that happened in the heavens.
And they need all the manpower they can get. This may dovetail into the Volcano/Vulcanus theories.
Lujei Piche is responsible for any DLC that involves a characters suddenly appearing in another game and having no idea how or why.
For the Lulz.
The "embarrassing" photo of Laharl from Disgaea: Hour of Darkness/Afternoon of Darkness is either...
In the inevitable Disgaea 5 or 6, Raspberyl will join the main cast
There's a noticeable pattern between Etna's inclusion in Disgaea 2 and Axel's inclusion in Disgaea 4 in that they were characters who were also given Modes in the Updated Rereleases of their respective games who eventually became part of the main cast in the later sequels. Though Disgaea 3 has yet to have Updated Rerelease, Raspberyl has Raspberyl Mode, so there's a possibility she may be a likely candidate for another appearance outside of obligatory cameos.
When Asagi appears in Disgaea 4, she will appear as the reincarnated singing idol from her Asagi Wars ending
She might still have the desire to become the main character but she won't automatically draw attention to it. Also, with Axel being part of main cast, she and Axel will probably be rivals.
Asagi Kurosugi has plotted Asagi Asagiri's death ever since Makai Kingdom
The truth about Kurosugi causing Asagi's death in Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? comes out in Asagi Wars, but it's definitely not the first time she's plotted Asagi's death or preventing Asagi from becoming the main character. Below shows how she was involved with each of Asagi's cameos:
Majin/Demon Lord Hanako will a main character in a future N1 title
Given how she has been the ONLY "brand new" DLC character in the history of N1 games thus far, it seems highly unlikely she was meant to be used the one time. At the very least, she'll be back - possibly with Taro (or Etna) in tow.
Etna is a Succubus.
Look at the lyrics for her character theme and try and say otherwise.
Laharl loves cats
The reason Anise the Cat Witch is in love with Laharl is because he pets her, when she is in her cat form, every time she visits the Overlords castle, because he loves cats. Using cats as Pet the Dog moment is very common in Japanese media apparently.
There will be a Makai Wars 2 game.
Not an actual Makai Wars, mind you... Instead, it will be presented as a 'sequel' to the never-released game. In a parody of Rogue Protagonist, Asagi will go Off the Rails upon discovering she won't be the main character this time, in favor of a 'new hero'. Depending on how sadistic the developers are feeling, she will either technically have the lead role even if she isn't recognized as the Main Character, serving as a Villain Protagonist out to defeat the so-called heroes that so cruelly stole her starring role from her... or she'll only have an extra Side Story mode, along the lines of the PSP games.
Adell wasn't born human, but he is now.
The distinction between humans, demons, and angels is vague and arbitrary enough that individuals can switch from one to the other with little more than a simple job/title change. Who is to say that Adell's firm belief that he's the last remaining human on Veldime, and that it's this is the indicator that he's the one that's supposed to defeat Overlord Zenon, hasn't effectively turned him human?
The Netherworld is actually a planet orbiting a red dwarf star.
It makes perfect sense: when we see the overlord castle, it is always night, and it's in the middle of a lava lake. That's because it's on a planet that is in a tight orbit around a red dwarf star, and therefore tidally locked (with the same side always facing the star). This proximity causes strong tidal effects, which cause internal frictions and explain the permanent volcanic activity (which the names of the characters match!) And the red eyes of the demons are meant to protect their retinas from the frequent flares this kind of star is known to have. This also explains the ages: a 'year' there is just a few earth days. Plus, the moon is conspicuously red (reflecting the light of a red sun) and the Netherworld can be reached with a spaceship.
The Prism Rangers participated in the Legendary War
Which is why they don't show up in Disgaea 4.
Master Big Star is an Incubus
He has large wings like the Succubus class and is extremely good looking, being The Dandy and all.
Etna is Yoko's reincarnation and Laharl is Kamina's
The resemblance is uncanny: redhair, skimpy outfit, long weapon for Etna, blue hair and shirtless for Laharl. Perhaps good humans can be reincarnated as demons (with the long lifespans and awesome powers, it sure beats becoming a Prinny...) And Flonne is Nia's.
Baal's end
It was stated in Zettai Hero Project that Valvolga killed Baal for good. I was wondering how he managed to get rid of a mass of souls that can Body Surf, until, having read a certain fanfic, I thought: suppose Valvolga found a method of striking directly at Baal's soul collection, much like how Gig and the reaper class monsters reap souls, and just kept at it until Baal ran out of souls, making his attempt far more successful that what Laharl's would ever become.
Conviction Gives Humans strength equal to a demons.
Confirmed in Disgaea 4 with Fuka. But let's explore anyway.
Every Human World has its own "Constellation" of Netherworlds
Sardines DO make you powerful
Whereas most demons have become weaker due to the lack of Fear Energy, Valvatorez, despite giving up blood, has maintained enough power to defeat anything that gets in his way. Also, while everyone was slowly being infected by the A Virus, he managed to keep himself from turning into Axel, only doing so if you lost the final battle with him.
The Earth from Disgaea 4 is the same Earth from Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Technology has advanced and the problems that caused the EDF to consider invading Laharl's Netherworld got worse.
In the Worst Ending of D3, Mao triggered Fear the Great.
Remember, Fear the Great allows malice to be manifested into physical form. By defeating the malice, Nemo calms down, halting Fear the Great to a grind. This is the reason why Mao's true heart and Rasberyl stop him. And then Aurum kills Rasbeyrl...
Laharl's mother was a fire witch
Laharl first skill is of the type fire and in Disgaea 4 King Krichevskoy first skill looks exactly the same except the skill's type is ice. Lahral's scarf is pretty fire-like too.
Disgaea 5 will be even more meta than any of the previous games.
The main character will be an angel who wants to become a demon (whose ultimate special move would involve sending the opponent through the 9 circles of hell), who will be joined by a nerd that's obsessed with min-maxxing every single character, and a literal glitch in the games programming that can pass through enemy characters (whose ultimate attack literally causes the game to suffer a BSOD). The plot would involve things such as: bad fan fiction, shipping, and mary sues. The villain will be a whiny fanboy shapeshifter that thinks that the later games aren't as good as the earlier ones and make the game as stupid and boring as possible with the hope that the fans will leave the series behind and move on to better things (like remakes!). Asagi will get her own game and have to give it up to stop the villains plans. Also, Gwen would be a DLC.
The maturation rate of demons depends on where they primarily raised rather than their species.
Demons (pure blood or half) born and/or raised in a Netherworld seem to mature at the rate of 100 chronological years = 1 biological year rate. Examples: Most of the cast (pure blood) and Laharl (half demon).
However, if a demon were to be born and/or raised in a human world, then they will grow and mature at the rate of a human. Examples: Adell (age 17, pure blood) and Rutile (age 15, half nekomata). This does NOT have an effect on their life span.
Mao's precious item
Is a photo album of a bunch of dirty pictures of Sapphire, which is why he was so determined to make sure nobody found it, he didn't want to run the risk of her seeing it and cutting his head off.
Disgaea D2 predictions
Considering the events of their game and a few of their cameos, what do you think has NI has in store for the Disgaea trio this time?
Disgaea 5 Protagonist
Assuming that there ever comes a Disgaea 5 after D2, the main character of it will be a Villain Protagonist like Laharl and Mao were, instead of a Hero or Anti-Hero like Adell and Valvatorez. Reasoning? The odd-numbered games have had evil protagonists, while the even-numbered games have had good protagonists.
The rest of the Nippon Ichi games will have direct sequels to keep Asagi's wandering protagonist shtick going
Asagi will eventually get her game, but by that time, every game will have had their own direct sequel, forcing Asagi to continue invading other games so that her game gets the same treatment.
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