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11th Aug '17 4:00:25 PM Luigifan
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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'' is the meta-verse for all Nippon Ichi games]]

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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'' is the meta-verse for all Nippon Ichi Creator/NipponIchi games]]



An infinite number of combinations of LawfulEvil and ChaoticEvil Hells battling for supremacy. It was to last forever; but nothing is forever. An infinite number of combinations will eventually lead to new ideas. Ideals clashed, destroyed each other, fused, fizzled out; evolved. There are still some of the greater evils left; and many of the Overlords are still fighting each other for supremacy but nothing as organized as the Baatezu or the Tanar'ri. The Blood War ended; not with a bang, not with a whimper, the eternal Wheel of Time merely lead to them becoming their own worlds.

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An infinite number of combinations of LawfulEvil and ChaoticEvil Hells battling for supremacy. It was to last forever; but nothing is forever. An infinite number of combinations will eventually lead to new ideas. Ideals clashed, destroyed each other, fused, fizzled out; evolved. There are still some of the greater evils left; left, and many of the Overlords are still fighting each other for supremacy supremacy, but nothing as organized as the Baatezu or the Tanar'ri. The Blood War ended; ended, not with a bang, not with a whimper, whimper; the eternal Wheel of Time merely lead led to them becoming their own worlds.



* The Disgaea Netherworld, aka Makai, was formerly known as the Abyss. It currently barely resembles it former self now.

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* The Disgaea ''Disgaea'' Netherworld, aka Makai, was formerly known as the Abyss. It currently barely resembles it its former self now.



* In the anime, at least, Flonne and Vulcanus are the only angels that enter the Netherworld and survive long enough to leave. And Vulcanus was a villain, of the Main/WellIntentionedExtremist variety.
* And that's besides the "reverse-Main/NobleDemon" aspects -- cheating Laharl out of a reward for ''saving her life'', [[Main/DisneyDeath breaking]] Main/RobotBuddy Thursday after he's about to reveal her foul language ...
* Fallen Angel Flonne is little more than a Main/PaletteSwap of her angel form.
** Not entirely accurate, she has demon wings and tail in 2nd form, and her blouse is open, shwoing her in a red...one piece bathing suit? Also, she probably chucked the pendant after becoming Fallen, as she only needed it to survive in the demon world, and now that she's fallen, she doesn't need it(Remember, Clerics are described as 'possibly' fallen angels).

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* In the anime, at least, Flonne and Vulcanus are the only angels that enter the Netherworld and survive long enough to leave. And Vulcanus was a villain, of the Main/WellIntentionedExtremist WellIntentionedExtremist variety.
* And that's besides the "reverse-Main/NobleDemon" aspects -- cheating Laharl out of a reward for ''saving her life'', [[Main/DisneyDeath breaking]] Main/RobotBuddy RobotBuddy Thursday after he's about to reveal her foul language ...
* Fallen Angel Flonne is little more than a Main/PaletteSwap PaletteSwap of her angel form.
** Not entirely accurate, she has demon wings and tail in 2nd form, and her blouse is open, shwoing her in a red...one piece bathing suit? Also, she probably chucked the pendant after becoming Fallen, as she only needed it to survive in the demon world, and now that she's fallen, she doesn't need it(Remember, it (remember, Clerics are described as 'possibly' fallen angels).



*** Why would she activate it then? Who said she's supposed to be Main/ChaoticEvil?
** It didn't burn Mid-Boss because his motives are actually good, [[Main/BatmanGambit Batmaning]] Laharl into becoming a Main/NobleDemon. Likewise by the time Laharl is a Main/NobleDemon he doesn't get burned, but when he was still evil, he did. The pendant appears to work on motives, not actions.

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*** Why would she activate it then? Who said she's supposed to be Main/ChaoticEvil?
ChaoticEvil?
** It didn't burn Mid-Boss because his motives are actually good, [[Main/BatmanGambit [[BatmanGambit Batmaning]] Laharl into becoming a Main/NobleDemon. NobleDemon. Likewise by the time Laharl is a Main/NobleDemon NobleDemon, he doesn't get burned, but when he was still evil, he did. The pendant appears to work on motives, not actions.



** I don't see how Flonne becoming evil would change how the pendant works. Besides, the pendant given to her by Lamington originally.

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** I don't see how Flonne becoming evil would change how the pendant works. Besides, the pendant was given to her by Lamington originally.



*** Did we actually see him give her the pendant? If not, easy explanation -- again, [[Main/ILied she lied.]]
** Flonne? The LoveFreak TropeNamer? Evil? '''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOHEHAHAHA'''* gasp* '''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA'''hahahahehe* pant* hoooooo... You're kidding me, right?.

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*** Did we actually see him give her the pendant? If not, easy explanation -- again, [[Main/ILied [ILied she lied.]]
** Flonne? The LoveFreak TropeNamer? Evil? '''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOHEHAHAHA'''* gasp* '''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOHEHAHAHA''' *gasp* '''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA'''hahahahehe* pant* hoooooo... You're kidding me, right?.



* See the OVA's when [[spoiler: Etna and Flonne have their personalities reverse]]. [[spoiler: Etna]] more or less tortures the Prinnies by having them do good deeds ''non-stop'', practically killing them from overexhaustion.

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* See the OVA's when [[spoiler: Etna [[spoiler:Etna and Flonne have their personalities reverse]]. [[spoiler: Etna]] [[spoiler:Etna]] more or less tortures the Prinnies by having them do good deeds ''non-stop'', practically killing them from overexhaustion.



* You guys keep pointing to the anime, but the anime is an {{Alternate Continuity}}. Flonne in the games never did anything to remotely deserve being called evil. Sure, she beat up a few humans and angels, but it's not like she didn't have good reason for doing that. And Flonne pretty much acts as the Morality Pet to both Laharl AND Etna. In the games, what reason does she have to be called "Evil?"

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* You guys keep pointing to the anime, but the anime is an {{Alternate Continuity}}. Flonne in the games never did anything to remotely deserve being called evil. Sure, she beat up a few humans and angels, but it's not like she didn't have good reason for doing that. And Flonne pretty much acts as the Morality Pet MoralityPet to both Laharl AND Etna. In the games, what reason does she have to be called "Evil?"



*** In case you're wondering why I don't think she's acting, let us remember that she had a 5 minute conversation with herself, just to endear herself to Laharl. If she knew enough to know hat were possible, she therefore most likely knows that Laharl was asleep for MONTHS, seemingly uninvoked, as that was very recent history and a big part of what Laharl is now. There's also the fact that no one evil enough to outgambit THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE would be patient enough to hold such a conversation. They most likely hate most people, so the idea that they would hold such a tedious conversation with themselves just to gain the support or scorn of a bratty demon is practically unheard of. There's also the fact that she would most likely know it's stupid to outright call yourself an assassin, and would most likely assume that a demon would kill her on sight. Flonne puts up too convincing of an act, anyhow, to be a faker. Anyone with a degree in Evil in Disgaea wouldn't be that willing to act that preachy. And besides, in the concept stages of Disgaea, the Seraph was originally going to be {{God}}. I realize the idea was controversial in the first place, but you really mean to tell me he'd be fooled?

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*** In case you're wondering why I don't think she's acting, let us remember that she had a 5 minute conversation with herself, just to endear herself to Laharl. If she knew enough to know hat that were possible, she therefore most likely knows that Laharl was asleep for MONTHS, seemingly uninvoked, as that was very recent history and a big part of what Laharl is now. There's also the fact that no one evil enough to outgambit THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE would be patient enough to hold such a conversation. They most likely hate most people, so the idea that they would hold such a tedious conversation with themselves just to gain the support or scorn of a bratty demon is practically unheard of. There's also the fact that she would most likely know it's stupid to outright call yourself an assassin, and would most likely assume that a demon would kill her on sight. Flonne puts up too convincing of an act, anyhow, to be a faker. Anyone with a degree in Evil in Disgaea wouldn't be that willing to act that preachy. And besides, in the concept stages of Disgaea, the Seraph was originally going to be {{God}}. I realize the idea was controversial in the first place, but you really mean to tell me he'd be fooled?



Actually how would the angels survive in the underworld?.....
** Well, it's Main/AllThereInTheManual, but apparently, there's been a angelic influence in the Netherworld for some time now. The Succubi monsters and Healers are all descended from fallen angels. Presumably, the angels you can get either are fallen, or come with their own protective amulets.

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Actually Actually, how would the angels survive in the underworld?.....
** Well, it's Main/AllThereInTheManual, AllThereInTheManual, but apparently, there's been a angelic influence in the Netherworld for some time now. The Succubi monsters and Healers are all descended from fallen angels. Presumably, the angels you can get either are fallen, or come with their own protective amulets.



* It's true that the half-human issue doesn't seem so big in-game, but there are certain sects in the Netherworld(Laharl's relatives, in fact) that are very discriminatory towards humans and consider Laharl's blood to be 'soiled'.
* I don't think the monster/humanoid thing is well thought out. Its interesting that Prier actually BECAME a demon by killing lots of demons.

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* It's true that the half-human issue doesn't seem so big in-game, but there are certain sects in the Netherworld(Laharl's Netherworld (Laharl's relatives, in fact) that are very discriminatory towards humans and consider Laharl's blood to be 'soiled'.
* I don't think the monster/humanoid thing is well thought out. Its well-thought-out. It's interesting that Prier actually BECAME a demon by killing lots of demons.



** It should also be noted that none of the demons in the Dark World stages of Main/LaPucelle were humanoid (Dark Warriors ''might'' be)

[[WMG: Chou Maou Pearl isn't just Baal, he's [[Main/IAmLegion Legion.]]]] He's Legion who has ''possessed'' Baal. As we learned in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'', "Baal" just possesses another body whenever his current one is destroyed, and this usually includes other demons; he has a special affinity to Prinnies, though. Then in ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 2|Cursed Memories}}'' we discover he can possess more than one body at a time. For he is many.

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** It should also be noted that none of the demons in the Dark World stages of Main/LaPucelle ''VideoGame/LaPucelle'' were humanoid (Dark Warriors ''might'' be)

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[[WMG: Chou Maou Pearl isn't just Baal, he's [[Main/IAmLegion Legion.]]]] ]]]]
He's Legion who has ''possessed'' Baal. As we learned in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'', "Baal" just possesses another body whenever his current one is destroyed, and this usually includes other demons; he has a special affinity to Prinnies, though. Then in ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 2|Cursed Memories}}'' Memories}}'', we discover he can possess more than one body at a time. For he is many.



* This world mean that the chaos gods are simply demons who are level 9999(or higher?).
** We definitely know that there is a tranformation past "Demon Overlord." Baal has accomplished this; and Zenon ''barely'' escaped that fate. (It's more than just a title change to Tyrant or Master).

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* This world mean that the chaos gods are simply demons who are level 9999(or 9999 (or higher?).
** We definitely know that there is a tranformation past "Demon Overlord." Baal has accomplished this; and Zenon ''barely'' escaped that fate. (It's more than just a title change to Tyrant or Master).Master.)



** Because of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvIZC6ubCU this maybe]]

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** Because of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvIZC6ubCU this maybe]]
this, maybe]].



Like a Main/BlackMagic big bang, pieces of this (Let's call it the Angra Manyu) spread across the multiverse; coalescing into various Powers and monsters. The "monstrous" demons are likely to be original models. But as humans became stronger, they started to defeat demons and absorb the trait themselves; creating humanoid demons like the main cast of ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' and ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom''. Demons can get more power and advance their titles by defeating others; but as they do so they run the risk of the "original will" taking them over. Baal is/are the largest chunk(s) leftover from the beginning; lesser chunks such as Sulphur from ''VideoGame/PhantomBrave'' also exist.
* [[spoiler: Overlord Zenon is a good example of what happens when it gets past the breaking point. She was smart enough to figure a way out.]]

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Like a Main/BlackMagic BlackMagic big bang, pieces of this (Let's call it the Angra Manyu) spread across the multiverse; coalescing into various Powers and monsters. The "monstrous" demons are likely to be original models. But as humans became stronger, they started to defeat demons and absorb the trait themselves; creating humanoid demons like the main cast of ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' and ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom''. Demons can get more power and advance their titles by defeating others; but as they do so so, they run the risk of the "original will" taking them over. Baal is/are the largest chunk(s) leftover from the beginning; lesser chunks such as Sulphur from ''VideoGame/PhantomBrave'' also exist.
* [[spoiler: Overlord [[spoiler:Overlord Zenon is a good example of what happens when it gets past the breaking point. She was smart enough to figure a way out.]]



[[WMG: Similarly the Makai of VideoGame/{{Touhou}} is also part [[GrandUnifyingGuesses of the Nippon Ichi multiverse]]]]

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[[WMG: Similarly Similarly, the Makai of VideoGame/{{Touhou}} is also part [[GrandUnifyingGuesses of the Nippon Ichi multiverse]]]]



** Meaning either demons don't bother with it for some reason, or it was abandoned + sealed off after Reimu, Marisa, Mima and Yuuka were through with it (and Sanae, depending on which of the UFO endings is canon)

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** Meaning either demons don't bother with it for some reason, or it was abandoned + sealed off after Reimu, Marisa, Mima Mima, and Yuuka were through with it (and Sanae, depending on which of the UFO endings is canon)
canon).



IE, a human with some demon blood in her lineage. Hence her unbelievable strength, bizarre star eyes, and tendency towards overthetop bloodthirsty acts belied with good-naturedness.

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IE, a human with some demon blood in her lineage. Hence her unbelievable strength, bizarre star eyes, and tendency towards overthetop over-the-top bloodthirsty acts belied with good-naturedness.



* Not any specific type mind you, but she has some traits common of TheFairFolk: Beautiful, otherworldly apperance... and amoral good-natured bloodlust.

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* Not any specific type type, mind you, but she has some traits common of TheFairFolk: Beautiful, otherworldly apperance... and amoral good-natured bloodlust.



[[spoiler: Laharl is a 1,316 year demon, but he looks like a 13 year old kid, implying that demons age much slower than humans. While Elves (depending on the story) also age slower than humans, they reach physical maturity at more-or-less the same rate as a human, thus allowing him to pass as such. [[SchrodingersGun Of course, this doesn't apply if the particular ending specifically says he is a demon...]] As for his unnatural level of power compared to most humans, [[OurElvesAreBetter I believe we have a trope for that]]. The reason we don't see any other elves is because demons are GenreSavvy enough to [[CantArgueWithElves Argue With Elves]] and get away with it.]]
** It ''does'' say [[spoiler:he is a demon: his parents are refugee demons from a more violent netherworld]]
*** [[spoiler: Yes, but could have just as easily have been their adoptive son. Yes, it's a stretch, but we don't call it ''Wild'' Mass Guessing for nothing.]]

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[[spoiler: Laharl [[spoiler:Laharl is a 1,316 year demon, but he looks like a 13 year old kid, implying that demons age much slower than humans. While Elves (depending on the story) also age slower than humans, they reach physical maturity at more-or-less the same rate as a human, thus allowing him to pass as such. [[SchrodingersGun Of course, this doesn't apply if the particular ending specifically says he is a demon...]] As for his unnatural level of power compared to most humans, [[OurElvesAreBetter I believe we have a trope for that]]. The reason we don't see any other elves is because demons are GenreSavvy enough to [[CantArgueWithElves Argue With Elves]] and get away with it.]]
** It ''does'' say [[spoiler:he is a demon: his parents are refugee demons from a more violent netherworld]]
netherworld]].
*** [[spoiler: Yes, [[spoiler:Yes, but could have just as easily have been their adoptive son. Yes, it's a stretch, but we don't call it ''Wild'' Mass Guessing for nothing.]]



** [[spoiler: I'm thinking they meant the main character of an anime where the hero suffers a DisneyDeath several times a season, and is sick of being revived by ThePowerOfLove.]]

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** [[spoiler: I'm [[spoiler:I'm thinking they meant the main character of an anime where the hero suffers a DisneyDeath several times a season, and is sick of being revived by ThePowerOfLove.]]



[[WMG: Adell has a birth defect [[spoiler: affecting the shape of his ears]].]]

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[[WMG: Adell has a birth defect [[spoiler: affecting [[spoiler:affecting the shape of his ears]].]]



Supposedly the singular Prinny is really a collective 1000. Yet the one that's "in charge" has the same personality; always. Whenever one falls, the soul just goes to the next one. The Scarf is really a RestrainingBolt that Etna came up with with the side effect of stopping Sir Sweet. Seriously, do you really think Sir Sweet was such a threat Etna had to sneak attack him? No, her actual task was keeping the Baal piece occupied.

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Supposedly the singular Prinny is really a collective 1000. Yet the one that's "in charge" has the same personality; always. Whenever one falls, the soul just goes to the next one. The Scarf is really a RestrainingBolt that Etna came up with with the side effect of stopping Sir Sweet. Seriously, do you really think Sir Sweet was such a threat Etna had to sneak attack him? No, her actual task was keeping the Baal piece occupied.\\



* Yes, Baal is a BonusBoss if one replays the stage where you fight [[spoiler: Prinny Laharl]]. He has more than one body going around; and really that was surprisingly weak for Baal.

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* Yes, Baal is a BonusBoss if one replays the stage where you fight [[spoiler: Prinny [[spoiler:Prinny Laharl]]. He has more than one body going around; and really that was surprisingly weak for Baal.



* The fact that the Prinny in charge always comments on used to being a "DirtyCop" in life cements it. All 1000 were Dirty Cops? I think not. It's FakeMemories Etna placed on him/them.

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* The fact that the Prinny in charge always comments on how he used to being be a "DirtyCop" in life cements it. All 1000 were Dirty Cops? I think not. It's FakeMemories Etna placed on him/them.



Simply put, Prinnies who were decent people in their past life and only missed being reincarnated because of ether their dying actions [[spoiler:as was the case with Laharl's Mother]] or by them not being totally virtuous [[spoiler:say what you want of Asagi and Kurtis but they weren't exactly the biggest assholes to grace the N1 {{canon}}]] are reincarnated into a Prinny but instead of being made into the standard blue Prinny they instead take on some degree of features from their past life, typically having the voice they had in their previous life, becoming the color of hair they were in their past life and taking on another distinguishable feature. They may also be able to not end their sentences with the standard dood/-ssu.

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Simply put, Prinnies who were decent people in their past life and only missed being reincarnated because of ether their dying actions [[spoiler:as was the case with Laharl's Mother]] or by them not being totally virtuous [[spoiler:say what you want of Asagi and Kurtis Kurtis, but they weren't exactly the biggest assholes to grace the N1 {{canon}}]] are reincarnated into a Prinny Prinny, but instead of being made into the standard blue Prinny Prinny, they instead take on some degree of features from their past life, typically having the voice they had in their previous life, becoming the color of hair they were in their past life life, and taking on another distinguishable feature. They may also be able to not end their sentences with the standard dood/-ssu.



[[WMG: Adell [[spoiler: has a Demon Form, only accessible should he ''choose'' to activate it. And learn how.]]]]
His parents mention that [[spoiler: Shura and Serion had to change back into Demon Form to go fight Zenon.]] So presumably they were [[spoiler: in human form when they had Adell]] and he's been that his whole life.

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[[WMG: Adell [[spoiler: has [[spoiler:has a Demon Form, only accessible should he ''choose'' to activate it. And learn how.]]]]
His parents mention that [[spoiler: Shura [[spoiler:Shura and Serion had to change back into Demon Form to go fight Zenon.]] So presumably they were [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in human form when they had Adell]] and he's been that his whole life.
2nd Apr '17 4:34:14 PM nombretomado
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Like a Main/BlackMagic big bang, pieces of this (Let's call it the Angra Manyu) spread across the multiverse; coalescing into various Powers and monsters. The "monstrous" demons are likely to be original models. But as humans became stronger, they started to defeat demons and absorb the trait themselves; creating humanoid demons like the main cast of ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' and ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom''. Demons can get more power and advance their titles by defeating others; but as they do so they run the risk of the "original will" taking them over. Baal is/are the largest chunk(s) leftover from the beginning; lesser chunks such as Sulphur from ''PhantomBrave'' also exist.

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Like a Main/BlackMagic big bang, pieces of this (Let's call it the Angra Manyu) spread across the multiverse; coalescing into various Powers and monsters. The "monstrous" demons are likely to be original models. But as humans became stronger, they started to defeat demons and absorb the trait themselves; creating humanoid demons like the main cast of ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' and ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom''. Demons can get more power and advance their titles by defeating others; but as they do so they run the risk of the "original will" taking them over. Baal is/are the largest chunk(s) leftover from the beginning; lesser chunks such as Sulphur from ''PhantomBrave'' ''VideoGame/PhantomBrave'' also exist.



Disgaea Infinite seems to imply that all of their later cameos are based on the game's different endings and are not connected at all. One ending has Laharl eat Etna's pudding, [[VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories causing her to quit and go to another Netherworld]]. Another has Etna [[PhantomBrave trap Laharl in a strange looking bottle.]]

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Disgaea Infinite seems to imply that all of their later cameos are based on the game's different endings and are not connected at all. One ending has Laharl eat Etna's pudding, [[VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories causing her to quit and go to another Netherworld]]. Another has Etna [[PhantomBrave [[VideoGame/PhantomBrave trap Laharl in a strange looking bottle.]]
28th Jan '17 5:15:53 PM Wyldchyld
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** Succubi and Nekomata are absolute FetishFuel...

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** Succubi and Nekomata are absolute FetishFuel...fetish material...
29th Sep '16 11:29:47 AM Yugnat
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[[spoiler: During TheStinger of VideoGame/DisgaeaDimension2, Etna implied that he had to serve her. There's also the fact that he has to pay for almost collapsing the netherworld and kidnapping angels.]]

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[[spoiler: During TheStinger of VideoGame/DisgaeaDimension2, ''VideoGame/DisgaeaD2ABrighterDarkness'', Etna implied that he had to serve her. There's also the fact that he has to pay for almost collapsing the netherworld and kidnapping angels.]]
31st Jul '16 10:15:49 AM nombretomado
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Its a ''multiverse''. Each time a game comes to an end, the dimension branches, one new timeline for each potential ending, explaining the above mutually-exclusive-cameos problem. References from one cameo to another may be due to diverged timelines joining back up [[DCComics hypertime]] style.

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Its a ''multiverse''. Each time a game comes to an end, the dimension branches, one new timeline for each potential ending, explaining the above mutually-exclusive-cameos problem. References from one cameo to another may be due to diverged timelines joining back up [[DCComics [[Creator/DCComics hypertime]] style.
19th Jul '16 6:42:02 PM DamonDraco
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*** I think it was said somewhere that a demon's body adapt to the netherworld they're living in, demons in Veldime (an artificial netherworld) age as if they were humans.
21st May '16 8:09:36 PM erforce
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[[WMG: Baal is [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} Gozer]]]]

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[[WMG: Baal is [[Film/{{Ghostbusters}} [[Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}} Gozer]]]]
29th Mar '16 11:10:11 PM OmegaMetroid
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** ...And now you have me thinking it was a picture of him masturbating while saving kittens... dressed as a girl. Thanks, [[SarcasmMode I needed that]].
28th Feb '16 9:17:24 AM nombretomado
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* Tell me where in the Great Book O' Tropes that [[spoiler: a demon isn't allowed to also be a "Demon Hunter"? Anyone genre-savvy enough would remember that some of the best X-Hunters (where X is any superhuman being) are either Half-Human Hybrids or full members of X. {{Blade}} would be a good example of this. [[VampireRefugee We even have a trope about it (Sorta).]] ]]

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* Tell me where in the Great Book O' Tropes that [[spoiler: a demon isn't allowed to also be a "Demon Hunter"? Anyone genre-savvy enough would remember that some of the best X-Hunters (where X is any superhuman being) are either Half-Human Hybrids or full members of X. {{Blade}} Franchise/{{Blade}} would be a good example of this. [[VampireRefugee We even have a trope about it (Sorta).]] ]]
26th Aug '15 10:36:16 AM Praenomen
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We're talking old school Norse/Germanic [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_elves legend]] here. There's a lot of brands of demons in the [[Creator/{{Nippon Ichi}} Nippon Ichi]] verse; they're not all the same species. The magic-using, long-lived, PointedEars, bizarre morality'ed version are Dark Elves. Age appearance is either dependent on self-image or possibly how much human blood is in their lineage.

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We're talking old school Norse/Germanic [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_elves legend]] here. There's a lot of brands of demons in the [[Creator/{{Nippon Ichi}} Nippon Ichi]] Creator/NipponIchi verse; they're not all the same species. The magic-using, long-lived, PointedEars, bizarre morality'ed version are Dark Elves. Age appearance is either dependent on self-image or possibly how much human blood is in their lineage.
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