Trivia / King Crimson


  • Approval of God:
  • Author Existence Failure: Founding bassist/vocalist Greg Lake died in December 2016, and mid-'70s bassist/vocalist John Wetton died in January 2017. Fans were heartbroken over both. Another vocalist from the pre-Discipline era Boz Burrell had also passed away in 2006.
  • Big Name Fan: In 1981, Musician magazine ran a joint interview with Robert Fripp and Joe Strummer of The Clash, in which Fripp and Strummer turned out to be warmly appreciative of each other's music; Strummer described a 1969 King Crimson show he'd seen as 'terriffic ... really terriffic' and Fripp described a Clash concert he'd been to as 'the best rock and roll show I've been to in six years.'
  • Creator Backlash: Averted somewhat. The group will still play older tracks ("Red", "Larks' Tongues in Aspic Pt. 2", and some of the 1980s repertoire are still used in the recent lineups), but Robert (and probably the group) are sick and tired of the fans who only want to hear the old stuff, and completely ignore the group's new repertoire. Promoters who bank on the group's prog rock history to sell seats don't help either.
    • Moved into full aversion with King Crimson Mk. 8. Fripp and company seem more comfortable revisiting more of the group's back catalogue, operating under the concept of "Fresh When It Was Written". The use of three drummers as the frontline of the band helps keep things from being too much of a retread...
    • Robert Fripp has expressed disdain for Lizard, calling it "unlistenable." Though he's changed his attitude recently, having performed songs from the album on the 2017 tour.
  • He Also Did:
    • Robert Fripp has had a long association with Brian Eno, lending his guitar to numerous tracks as well as other Eno productions of David Bowie and Talking Heads.
    • Many of the members in the pre Discipline lineups were part of or moved on to other bands including Foreigner, Bad Company, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Asia, Yes, and Uriah Heep.
    • Bill Rieflin of the current line up was previously a member of Ministry while also playing small parts for Nine Inch Nails and R.E.M..
    • Jon Anderson who contributed the vocals to the track "Prince Rupert Awakens" on Lizard is best known for being the vocalist of Yes.
    • Peter Sinfield produced Roxy Music's debut album. John Wetton was also Roxy's touring bassist.
    • Jamie Muir indirectly caused the creation of Yes' album Tales From Topographic Oceans; at Bill Bruford's wedding, he gifted Jon a copy of the book Autobiography of a Yogi, from which a footnote inspired the album's central themes.
  • Name's the Same:
    • No, David Cross is not the one who played Tobias Funke in Arrested Development.
    • Adrian Belew is the name of a minor Springfield Elementary school student in The Simpsons though it may be very likely that he was named after the band's fifth vocalist.
    • Fripp and Tony Levin also have had a long association with Peter Gabriel.
  • Old Shame:
    • As stated in Creator Backlash, Robert Fripp was not fond of Lizard outright calling it unlistenable. Though the album itself is actually well liked among fans, and his own attitude towards it softened with the band's new lineup.
    • Gordon Haskell, the vocalist who stepped in to replace Greg Lake after he departed the band was not very fond of his time with the band, later calling Robert Fripp a fascist.
    • Mr. Fripp does not look upon Islands negatively, but he feels that particular lineup was "too much of a jam band", so the music (or at least live performances) didn't have as much substance.
  • Reclusive Artist: Robert Fripp (who combines Gentleman Snarker with Smart People Wear Glasses - read his blog).
    • Although now that DGM Live (King Crimson's/Fripp's record company) has an official YouTube channel, the shell is a little more transparent.
  • The Pete Best: Judy Dyble, who had had already been this to Fairport Convention as the first female vocalist in the seminal folk-rock band, was in an early lineup of King Crimson.
  • Referenced by...:
    • The Big Bad of Stephen King's The Dark Tower series is usually called the Crimson King. (His actual name, Los', is a Shout-Out to William Blake).
    • JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has several references to King Crimson, including a stand called "King Crimson" and a sub-stand called "Epitaph".
    • Kanye West famously sampled "21st Century Schizoid Man" on his hit "Power" (on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy).
    • Merzbow and Boris' collaborative EP Walrus/Groon is partially named for a King Crimson B-side. Merzbow also sampled "The Great Deceiver" for a track on Spiral Honey.
    • King Crimson's music has been widely covered, especially by progressive metal acts such as Voivod (who covered "21st Century Schizoid Man"), Norway's Shining (ditto), Dream Theater (covered "Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part Two"), Murmur (ditto), and Between the Buried and Me (covered "Three of a Perfect Pair").
    • Musicians who have cited King Crimson as an influence include Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, Bad Religion (who quoted "21st Century Schizoid Man" in the lyrics of their single "21st Century (Digital Boy)"), Rush, Tool, and Moonsorrow.
    • Reverend Bizarre named their first album In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend in tribute to King Crimson's first album.
    • One of the novels in The Lords of Creation is entitled In the Court of the Crimson Kings.
    • "The Court of the Crimson King" was used in Children of Men (2006).
    • Christina Ricci tap-dances to "Moonchild" in Buffalo 66.
    • Epitaph Records was named in honour of King Crimson's song "Epitaph".
    • Gotlib spoofed the cover of In the Court of the Crimson King with his character Hamster Jovial.
    • Japanese band Acid Mothers Temple have an album called Starless And Bible Black Sabbath.
  • Retroactive Recognition: Greg Lake and Ian MacDonald were part of the original lineup. John Wetton was also in the band at one point.
  • Throw It In!: Gordon Haskell's laughter at the end of "Indoor Games". Also, the spoken part of "Thela Hun Ginjeet" (see Spoken Word in Music in the Main tab).
  • Too Soon: "Coda: I Have a Dream"'s lyrics get omitted during concerts because of what they mention - which can be quite harsh depending on who hears it, and what their memories of the events mentioned are, which include the World Trade Center, Saddam Hussein and Timothy McVeigh.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • Elton John auditioned for the band during the sessions for In the Wake of Poseidon. Others who auditioned include future Roxy Music singer Bryan Ferry and Yes vocalist Jon Anderson. The latter gives us a small taste of what could have happened had he been accepted into the band on the movement "Prince Rupert Awakes" from the song "Lizard", as Haskell had already left the band by the time that section was recorded and Anderson was brought in to record the vocal part. King Crimson lyricist Peter Sinfield later produced Roxy Music's debut album and John Wetton served as a touring bassist in 1974.
    • During the Islands era, Fripp toyed with the idea of recording Crimson songs in different styles than originally conceived; e.g "The Court of the Crimson King" as a Chicago Blues number.
    • Rick Kemp, of Steeleye Span fame, was selected as the bass player for the oncoming 1971 tour (shortly before Islands was released), but eventually turned down the offer at the last minute.
    • Fripp considered inviting Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates to be the lead singer for the Discipline band that later morphed into the Mark IV 1980s lineup of King Crimson, having greatly enjoyed producing Hall's debut solo effort Sacred Songs. Hall turned the gig down, and Hall & Oates were currently on a hot streak as hitmakers.


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