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Fridge: Harry Potter

Warning: Marked and Unmarked spoilers throughout the page. Read at your own discretion.


Fridge Brilliance

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     General Part 1 
  • Quidditch positions and their hidden meanings.
  • The Seven Heavenly Virtues of Harry Potter.
  • Look at the list and answer the question that comes after: Black hair, top of their classes, arrogant, talented/powerful wizards, fell in love with Lily Evans, redeemed themselves because of their love for Lily Evans, killed by Voldemort, and died protecting Harry Potter. Now, is the list talking about James Potter or Severus Snape?
  • Horcruxes = piece of soul + container (+ very evile magick). The piece of soul depends on its container for survival, and thus the Horcrux is really, really difficult to maim or destroy. Remember how no matter what the trio did, they couldn't harm the locket or the cup without dark magic? WELL. That explains how Harry got out of all of those life-threatening situations alive, right? Harry could break his leg or almost drown or fall fifty feet in the air or get otherwisely severely injured, and the book would just carry on with the action. It's because he had special protection as a Horcrux.
  • Why Harry wasn't completely dysfunctional and maladjusted? The kid was bullied, criminally neglected, and belittled for his entire childhood. The care he got from his parents during the first year of his life couldn't have possibly been enough to cancel out the cruelty the Dursleys showed him. By all rights, he should not have been as kind, fair-minded, or even as sane as he is. Lily's protective magic which she cast when she died for him must also extend to his mind. He isn't just protected from physical damage, he's protected from psychological damage!
  • How did Fred and George know how to use the Marauder's Map? They were most likely magically gifted to figure out what kind of enchantments that had been applied to it, thus figuring out exactly how it works. They possibly were able to recognize it's potential when they first laid eyes on it
    • That also brings up another question. How did Snape not know what it is? Most likely he knew it was more than an ordinary piece of paper and it's doubtful that he bought Lupin's exclamation that it was a Zonko's product. Given enough time he would have likely figured out how to use it.
    • The map actually communicates with Harry when he's trying to open to one-eyed witch's hump and it obviously talks to Harry. Fred and George could have found it and managed to convince it to tell them the password. They are the perfect candidates, after all.
  • The page of wand wood lore just adds a whole slew of this. For instance, Holly wands often choose wizards engaged in dangerous or spiritual quests.
  • Beware, lots of unmarked horcrux spoilers to follow: The inconsistency of Harry's scar is confusing. His glimpsing Voldemort's plans from a distance in book four when the only thing that happens in book one is some pain? Not to mention book seven, where it steadily gets harder for even Voldemort to block the connection, to the point where Harry only has to close his eyes during the final battle to view what Voldemort's doing, as opposed to book five where it only happened when Harry was asleep. However, the strength of the connection corresponds with the destruction of the horcruxes. Or, more accurately, the ratio of Voldemort's soul held by Harry versus held by Voldemort himself.
    • Book One: Harry only feels minor pain when in close proximity to Voldemort.
    • Book Two: Tom Riddle's diary is destroyed, strengthening the connection.
    • Book Four: Voldemort makes Nagini into a Horcrux and so holds less of his own soul. Harry gets a glimpse mid-process and start seeing more of Voldemort's mind.
    • Book: Five: Harry can now glimpse Voldemort's thoughts and actions while asleep. Voldemort can send false messages, but in the end starts employing Occlumency to block Harry out.
    • Book Six: Another horcrux is destroyed.
    • Book Seven: Voldemort can't block Harry out of his mind out anymore. Harry now glimpses Voldemort's and even memories while awake, though only when Voldemort's feeling strong emotions. The locket and the cup are destroyed, and during the final battle all Harry has to do to activate Voldy-vision is basically just close his eyes. Voldemort is completely unaware of this, and has no control over it. This suggests that as the horcruxes are destroyed, Harry's control over the connection gets stronger and Voldemort's gets weaker.
    • It's not just their control that's changing: previously Voldemort has been the more powerful wizard, but not only is he literally losing fragments of his soul, his reliance on the Horcruxes that still exist is growing AND he's doing more damage to the Elder Wand with every spell he casts, making his magic increasingly erratic. Harry, on the other hand, has been undergoing some pretty awesome Character Development to become a cool-headed, mature wizard who chooses to open the connection, rather than having it forced on him.
  • In the first book, it's stated that Draco reminds Harry of Dudley. The comparison makes sense - both kids are heartless, spoiled-brat bullies with lackeys who verbally and physically abuse everyone and get away with it. But as the series commences, the parallels end up going further than that. Both get just barely redeemed and turn out to not be all bad. Both have mothers (with flower names) who turn out to truly care about them and not be all bad themselves (each of them has issues with her sister). Neither Draco nor Dudley's fathers get redeemed at all. The difference? The Dursleys (mostly Vernon) are intent on remaining a hundred-percent muggle, not acknowledging the magical world in the slightest, and they hate all wizards and regard them as freaks. The Malfoys (mostly Lucius) want to kill off all the Mudbloods, whom they regard as utterly worthless, and place wizards in control. The families are perfect mirror images of one another, but on opposing sides.
    • Adding to this, we can infer that both Lucius and Vernon are more similar than either would care to admit. After all, they are both shown (Vernon with the gun, as mentioned above, and Lucius throughout Book 7) to have the same single redeeming quality: their love for their families.
  • It's bothering how awful the "Dursley" sections of each book were, compared to the chapters in-between. The Dursleys seemed to be underdeveloped, derivative, irritating, and ridiculously lacking in redeeming qualities. Why J.K. couldn't have made them slightly more sympathetic—or at least cranked their villainy up into so that they'd be delicious, fascinating, shudder-worthy "love-to-hate" types. But: these are people who have spent their whole lives struggling to be boring. And it's working very well. Harry feels just the same way we do.
    • Along the same line, the painfulness of those chapters make you ache for Harry's return to Hogwarts just as much as Harry himself is surely feeling.
  • Neville spent the best part of six years being told that he wasn't brave enough to belong in Gryffindor, and we know it hit home. We also know that Godric Gryffindor's sword presents itself to any member of its House it views as worthy of receiving it, going with Dumbledore's statement that "help will always be given at Hogwarts to those that need/deserve it". During the first part of Book Seven Neville becomes the leader of an underground resistance against the Death Eaters, taking several level in badass as he goes: this basically involves him standing up to Snape - the man whose form his Boggart used to take (i.e. his greatest fear). He then proceeds to talk down VOLDEMORT HIMSELF and fight half of the Battle of Hogwarts armed with only a sword. To reiterate - he pretty much brought a knife to a gunfight, albeit a magical one. The Fridge Brilliance comes in when you remember him standing up to the Trio back in Book One, and realise that Neville has been so brave, and so deserving of the Sword, all along.
    • "It's the quote from Dumbledore that it "shows great courage to stand up to our friends and not just our enemies" that is also evidence to him always being brave. Not to mention that that's exactly what Dumbledore felt he hadn't been able to do in regards to Grindelwald.
  • People have said its illogical for Arthur to be perplexed by Muggle money when it uses a base ten system, as opposed to their nonsensical denominations. As anyone who's ever tried to explain metric to an American can tell you, this is nowhere near the case.
  • Headscratchers has an entry asking why Dumbledore never gave Snape an attitude adjustment, despite the fact that he very obviously needed one. JKR said it's because Dumbledore believes "that people in authority aren't always good" is a lesson the students have to learn. That's not the brilliant part; the brilliance comes in when you realize that every single book has featured at least one person at Hogwarts far, far worse than Severus Snape. First year, there was Quirrel, who has Tom Riddle stuck to the back of his head. Second year, we have Lockhart, an arrogant buffoon who can't teach at all (say whatever you want about Snape, he is at least more competent than Lockheart). Third year, we get introduced to the man who actually sold the Potters to Voldemort, Peter Pettigrew, a true coward and murderer. Year four has Karkaroff (coward) and Fake Moody, plus Cornelius Fudge, who refused to believe that Voldemort was back. Year Five: Umbridge's period of misrule, 'nuff said. Year six, Draco Malfoy joined the Death Eaters and cooked up at least two Russian Roulette-esque plans to kill Dumbledore, which nearly resulted in the deaths of Katie Bell and Ron Weasley. Oh, and he let other Death Eaters, like Bellatrix Lestrange and Fenrir Greyback, into the castle, too. Draco, ya little shit! And in Year Seven, the Carrows become the Muggle Studies and Dark Arts teachers, while Snape is made Headmaster and actually spends all of his time and energy making sure the Carrows can't torture and kill the students who defy them, and at the end of the book, Lord Voldemort himself enters Hogwarts. Bow to the brilliance. -TenderLumpling
  • Resident Slytherin bitch Pansy Parkinson is always described as being "pug-faced" by Harry in the books. Pugs are a kind of dog. In other words, Pansy Parkinson has a bitchy face! -Aether Master
    • Possibly unintentional but Pansy Parkinson is also a pure-blood and British pugs are so inbred that the 10,000 in the UK have the gene pool of only 50 individuals.
  • It always seemed like some what weak writing that Harry never showed any curiosity about his family or the wider wizarding world, requiring Hermione to explain everything to him (and us) at every turn. It may seem Harry wasn't too bright but the Dursleys spent a decade beating any curiosity out of him and never answered his questions honestly. He's not dumb, he just still hasn't gotten over that part of his horrible childhood, poor kid. -Math Camel
  • Voldemort's NAME, for heaven's sake. In French, "vol-" means "escape," "-de-" means "from" and "-mort" means "death." His entire name is a mashup of the phrase "escape from death." — gravedancer121
    • In Latin, "vol" means "wish", "de" means "of", and "mort" means "death". So in Latin, Voldemort with "death wisher" or "one who wishes death". Tie that in with the French translation meaning "escape from death", and J.K. Rowling is a genius on so many levels.
    • "Vol" can be thief, or theft, too; both stealing from death, and stealing death itself. You can really tell J.K. Rowling was a languages scholar.
    • "I Am Lord Voldemort" fits neatly into the anagram "Tom Marvolo Riddle", with a last name that explicitly states the significance of the name - it's a riddle! The woman is a genius!
      • She's a genius with names. Some are fairly obvious (Remus Lupin = werewolf = Remus was one of the two wolf-raised brothers who founded Rome) and some not so much (Dolores Umbridge: "Dolor" is Latin for pain or grief, which she gives both out in large quantities. "Umbrage" means taking offense, annoyance and displeasure. Everyone is annoyed and displeased by her tyrannical nature.)
  • In every book, at least one person mentions that Harry looks incredibly like his father, but has his mother's eyes. Dumbledore comments that while looking like his father, he is more like his mother in his heart. I realized that this proved true the old saying: The eyes are windows to the soul.
  • It's bothersome that Slytherin House is painted as almost unequivocally evil, but: That's not bad writing, that's BRILLIANT writing! See, we're explicitly told that Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, and Ravenclaw are the "good" houses, so we just expect that anyone from those houses will do the right thing. Slytherin, on the other hand, has a reputation for churning out Dark witches and wizards like a machine, so we just expect anyone from that house to be evil. So when a Slytherin does something noble (i.e., Regulus Black stealing one of Voldemort's Horcruxes to try and destroy it) and a Gryffindor/Ravenclaw/Hufflepuff does something horrible (i.e., Peter Pettigrew turning James and Lily over to Voldemort), it's that much more of a shock. It's proof of Dumbledore's statement: "It is not our abilities, but our choices, that determine who we really are." -Tender Lumpling
  • Slytherins are kids with personalities that makes them more likely to go bad, and they grow up surrounded by other kids with personalities that make them likely to go bad. They probably influence each other that way
  • The whole Statue Of Secrecy-thing never made sense. If Muggles can't use magic, it surely wouldn't hurt anyone if they tried? Then I remembered the interview where Jo said that Muggles couldn't use magic, but if they happened to pick up a recently used wand, it could suddenly "explode" with magic. I realized: A Muggle who had heard about magic would probably try to use it. If a Muggle picked up a recently used wand, they could damage themselves and people around them. -Luna Avril
  • In the Unofficial Harry Potter Cookbook for Christmas, a lot of the food they eat is pretty bad for you, and why aren't all the Hogwarts kids fat, anyway? Maybe magic in the Potterverse is like magic in Slayers and burns a prodigious amount of calories. Those characters who are described as being a bit on the larger side (Hagrid, Goyle, Neville in the earlier books) are also shown to be rather bad at magic, and the two LEAST magical characters in the whole series are... Vernon and Dudley. Neville is also said to have slimmed down corresponding with his taking a level in badass. Since JK is probably not intentionally a fat-basher, given what she's said on the subject, the only logical conclusion is Slayers-style magical calorie burning.
    • Do Vernon and Dudley really count, since it's implied that magic is something genetic (Muggle-borns are either a mutation or have a recessive gene coming to the fore)? Also, it's never said that Hagrid is bad at magic - he actually seems quite good at it, considering how he's able to make pumpkins swell to an incredible size, but as his wand is snapped and kept in an umbrella, it's not the most reliable tool. But it would explain to some extent why wizards seem rather tired after doing a lot of magic. Not that it's actually ever stated; only possible to infer from the text. However, Molly does a whole lot of magic around the house, practically everything she does right down to cooking utilises magic, and she's described as 'plump'. -chantililly
    • But Horace Slughorn, despite being introduced as an exceptionally powerful and talented wizard, is morbidly obese in the books and was even fat in his younger years. More appropriately, one could argue that the House Elves in Hogwarts doctor their food to be unnaturally healthy instead of arguing that only bad wizards are fat. After all, as Hagrid is half-giant, you have to exclude him, which leaves us only with Slughorn, Longbottom, Crabbe, and Goyle to look at. Slughorn became progressively huge after retiring from his first stint at Hogwarts (ergo no House Elf food), Longbottom is only moderately pudgy in his youth and can be seen more as shapeless than fat (which age and exercise would help overcome), and Crabbe/Goyle are total gluttons, thereby negating any positive benefit of House Elf food through sheer overeating. It's the food itself that is healthy: not the competence of wizards that makes it so on an individual basis. -Bad Karma
      • Or it could be from the fact that they live in a huge castle and have to walk/run to and from class, meals, the dorms, and study rooms by foot every day. Plus the staircases move of their own accord and can send you on a scenic route. Plus half the castle is staircases. Plus at least a handful of students play on the House Quidditch teams, and most of the rest probably play it casually.
  • Consider the contemptible treatment of Muggles even by the best of the wizarding world. At best, Muggles are seen as sort of amusing children or even intelligent pets, but almost never are they seen as equals, or even remotely intelligent. (Another smaller Fridge Brilliance: The Muggle Prime Minister actually remarks on this in the sixth book, heavily disliking Fudge's condescending attitude each time he appears in the PM's office, despite the fact that he, Fudge, is not exactly competent himself.) It's a great cultural tidbit because it's so imperialistic. The real-life Europe — and by extension Muggle Europe in HP — probably had this very same attitude towards the indigenous populations of the countries they colonized. So in that sense, one could argue that this plot device shows that Muggle culture and wizarding culture have that much more in common with each other — and neither group even realizes it. JK herself even said that Harry leaves the Muggle world and finds that the exact same problems exist in the wizarding world. It definitely shows that whatever wizards might think about Muggles, they're more connected to them than they know. -Maiira

    General Part 2 
  • Cruciatus is the root for the word "Excruciating" — an appropriate adjective for the curse's effects.
  • Why do the Wizards live in castles, and write, eat, and dress as if they were living in the middle ages? Because they always had magic, so their world never needed to evolve technologically like ours did.
  • Almost every single character trait exhibited by Harry can be linked back to his time at the Dursleys: He's a good seeker because he was malnourished enough to be small and fast, and had gained excellent reflexes from constantly dodging their swings at him. He wants to protect and help others, because no-one helped him. He hates bullies, like Malfoy, because he was bullied. He doesn't try at school, because he was never encouraged at home, and in fact, was probably punished if he did better than Dudley. And so on.
  • Films-only, and possibly accidental. In the last film, Voldemort, Bellatrix, and Nagini all die and shatter into small pieces. With Bellatrix that's because of the weird... liquid nitrogen spell that Molly Weasley used. With Nagini and Voldemort, it could call back to the very first movie. Remember Quirrel when he touched Harry. Instead of burning, like in the books, Quirrel actually crumbled into ash, piece by piece. Scary, yes, but if that's a deliberate callback, that's pretty cool.
  • Look at the cover of Philosopher/Sorcerer's Stone. Look at the cover of Deathly Hallows. Stone has a sunset in the background. DH has a sunrise in the background. Symbolically, you'd think it should be the other way around, until you realize every end is a beginning and vice-versa. The end of the Marauders is the beginning of Harry Potter. The end of his story is a new beginning for the wizarding world.
    • Another way to take this bit of symbolism is that the series, metaphorically, is a descent into the dark of night (Voldemort's second reign). Harry going to school in the first book means that the prophecies (etc.) about Voldemort and Harry are going to come true, soon, and so the 'day' that happened after Voldemort's first reign of terror was ending. As others have mentioned, the artwork gets progressively darker, until things are "darkest before the dawn", like in the sixth book when Death Eaters have killed Dumbledore and are actively taking over the Ministry. Finally, in DH, the long night of Voldemort is over, and so the cover shows the dawning of a new, Voldemort-free day.
  • Also pertaining to the covers, they were all done by the same artist, Mary GrandPr. Still, she uses a more mature style as the series progresses.
  • Alan Rickman does a great job of capturing Snape's complex character. So much so that watching the film version of Order Of The Phoenix and watching his scenes involving the Occlumency lessons makes you realize: Snape shows almost genuine worry for Harry, describing what Voldy could do if he got into Harry's head. He also seems to disparage traits associated with James or Sirius (such as being sentimental, foolhardy, or arrogant), whilst also praising traits such as self-control, mastery of the mind, and other such traits... that could easily be associated with Lily's strengths!
  • Rickman was the only person besides JKR who knew that Snape had been in love with Lily before Deathly Hallows came out, so not only was JKR dropping hints in all of the books, Rickman has been dropping some very subtle hints in his performance. The only character movie!Snape ever looks in the eyes is Harry.
  • The final scene of Half-Blood Prince was derided for taking out the big battle that was in the book, but the Death Eaters didn't plan an ATTACK. They planned an ASSASSINATION. Now the battle in the book seems kinda pointless.
  • Mad Eye turning Malfoy into a ferret seems funny at first. But Malfoy's a daddy's boy, Moody is actually Barty Crouch Jr, who hates the Death Eaters who abandoned Voldemort, Lucius being one of them. When Draco mentions his father, he gets even more angry, because Lucius has made so much money out of not being loyal to Voldemort. Barty Crouch, Jr. was jealous of Draco. An evil bastard Lucius may have been, but it was obvious throughout the whole series that he cared for Draco, which is more than can be said for Barty Sr. Lucius, despite his status, was willing to do some pretty extreme things to stick up for his son. Would the whole witch hunt against Buckbeak in book 3 have been so extreme if, say, Vincent Crabbe had been the one attacked. As much of a jerk as Lucius was, he probably wouldn't have gone through all that trouble just to have a hippogriff executed if not for sticking up for Draco. In fact, to an outsider, the crusade against Buckbeak probably make Lucius look like a bit of an idiot. Barty Sr., on the other hand, probably would have left the entire situation alone if it could have meant a black mark on his reputation (and therefore his ambition to become Minister of Magic).
  • In Deathly Hallows, Xenophilius tells the story of the three brothers. One died for power (elder wand), one died for love (resurrection stone), and one greeted death like an old friend. In the final battle for Hogwarts, three very important characters die: Voldemort for power, Snape for love, and Harry greets death like an old friend.
  • I thought the Deathday Party in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets was basically a Wacky Wayside Tribe to get Harry relatively isolated while he's looking completely off his rocker. Then I read it again after the fifth book, and realized holy shit, this is their shallow imitation of the afterlife. — DomaDoma
  • In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Draco Malfoy seems a funny character. But seen in the series as a whole, Draco Malfoy seems to be crafted into a classic Threshold Guardian, as every decision Harry made in book one that defined him as a hero for most of the school year happened in response to Draco being a douche. — Laota
  • At the end of the last book/film, when Harry died, he was allowed to choose whether he wanted to stay dead or come back to life for the final battle against Voldemort. This was because at the time, he was the owner of the invisibility cloak, the resurrection stone and the elder wand. He was the master of death, that's why he got to choose for himself whether to live or die, even in the face of an avada kedavra curse.
  • The symbolism of the wands. Thinking about the thestral tail hair in the Elder Wand. I got that Voldemort's wand was made of Yew, the whole "death tree symbolism", but his and Harry's wands were connected by the same phoenix, the bird of rebirth -the whole "horcruxes of each other" thing with the core being the same and all phoenix-connected, and Harry's wand was made of Holly, connected to rebirth in several mythologies including Christianity, to mirror Voldemort's wand. Because even though they both come back, Harry's the one who ultimately lives. -JET73L
    • Rowling definitely did her research when it came to wands: Lily Potter's wand was made of willow, which is traditionally associated with healing, protection and love. Her last act on Earth was to give her son the protection of her love. Also Elder (sometimes known as witchwood) is linked magically to protection, often against lightning strike, but bad luck will fall on anyone who uses it without permission. In other words, Voldemort's use of a wand that wasn't strictly his brought about his death via a certain young man with a lightning scar... - Aelinuial
    • And just to top it off, the Elder Wand's core is of thestral hair. Thestrals can only be seen by those who have both witnessed and accepted the reality of death. Voldemort has never accepted death as anything but a disgrace or something to be defied, so has never accepted its reality despite having murdered hundreds of people. Harry, though he's only seventeen, has witnessed many, many deaths, accepted it can't be undone or defied, and walked uncomplainingly to his own death. Guess which one of them understands the Elder Wand's inner nature, and is worthy to receive it?
  • In Half-Blood Prince. The scene involving Harry making Dumbledore drink the potion was nasty enough to begin with, but it becomes much worse when you realize what that potion actually does, as hinted by the flashbacks in Deathly Hallows: It makes you live through your worst memories over and over, presumably worse each time. -The Great Unknown

    General Part 3 
  • People's predictions aren't as far-fetched as they seem. At every opportunity starting with Harry's first divination class in Prisoner of Azkaban, Trelawny has insisted that Harry will die a premature death (with one exception in Order of the Phoenix). Guess what? He does. She also references the Grim, which is supposed to herald death, and he even sees it a few times, but it turns out to be Sirius — whom Harry sees before he dies. Also, in Half Blood Prince, Dumbledore says that Slughorn has a knack for predicting who will go on to become famous. Slughorn then invites Ginny to his elite club after witnessing her Bat-Bogey hex. Fast forward to the epilogue, Ginny's become the senior Quidditch correspondent for the Daily Prophet after a successful career with the Holyhead Harpies team and is the wife of the most famous wizard of all time: Harry Potter. Not only that, but Harry and Ron's predictions for each other also come true: Ron predicts Harry will have a 'windfall of unexpected gold' and the next year Harry wins a thousand Galleons in the Triwizard Cup. Harry predicts that Ron will face 'trials and suffering' but also have 'great happiness.' Ron suffers as much as anyone in the series (apart from Harry himself perhaps), but in the end lives happily ever after with his hot nerd love, Hermione. Dynamic Dragon
  • Sure, it was easy enough to accept that Snape hated Neville because he was a Gryffindor, he was incompetent, and he was available, but it wasn't until some time after reading Deathly Hallows that it becomes clear that his particular hatred for Neville was due to his belief that if Neville had been the Chosen One named in the prophecy - that if Voldemort had decided to attack the Longbottoms instead of the Potters - Lily would still be alive. - knave
  • After reading the seventh book, Snape's hatred for Harry is seen in a different light. Not only did Harry have his mother's eyes and look like his father (reinforcing the bond they had and the fact that Snape would never see Lily again), but he also might have been Snape's son in a different world. Hard to be friends with a kid like that. —Serene Shadow
  • If you read "The Prince's Tale" with the mindset of "Snape views Dumbledore as a father figure" (which, considering Snape's real father, is not that far-fetched of an assumption), it adds a whole new dimension to Snape's resentment of Harry: Snape is very much the "Well Done, Son" Guy, constantly putting his life on the line for Dumbledore and doing everything he asks, which condemns him to a life of being hated by the entire Wizarding World when he kills Dumbledore, while Harry (in Snape's mind) will do much of the same and be worshipped by the Wizarding World, because everyone wants to see Voldemort killed. (Unfortunately, this makes Dumbledore seem pretty cold and even more manipulative than he already is, because it reads as though he deliberately took advantage of Snape's desperation for approval by a father-figure and tormented him with it.)
  • On the first trip on the Hogwart's Express, Ron has a smudge on his nose that won't come off. If you pay close attention to the conversation on the platform, it seems to be implied that the twins put the smudge on as a practical joke. - Comic Book Goddess
  • In Prisoner of Azkaban, when Snape confronts Sirius, he says: "Give me a reason. Give me a reason to do it and I swear I will." Pretty harsh, but remember, this is the guy that almost got Snape eaten by a werewolf. Then in Goblet of Fire and Order of The Phoenix, they're a bit more civil to each other, but still obviously carrying grudges. Fast forward to Deathly Hallows and Harry's magical mystery tour through Snape's memories shows him that Snape was in love with Lily. And the realization hits with a big KA-BOOM. Like the entire rest of the magical world, Snape had thought that Sirius betrayed the Potters and was responsible for Lily's death, and only found out the truth after Voldemort's return (when he went to Voldemort two hours after the Triwizard final and would have seen Pettigrew there). Instantly did two things: put a whole new spin on that entire confrontation, and made you realize how far in advance JKR had planned out the whole thing. — DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
    • Also, Snape was in the Shrieking Shack while Sirius and Lupin were explaining the whole thing. The creak in the stairwell that is heard is Snape. He was late to the party, however, and only heard about his childhood days at Hogwarts: nothing about the Secret Keeper. He still thought Black was the one who betrayed the Potter's and that he was deluding Harry, Hermione, and Ron. - mermaidgirl45
  • Given that both are muggle-borns and teen geniuses, Snape's nasty treatment of Hermione might not be just because he's a jerkass, but also because she reminds him of Lily, and he's probably angered by her friendship with Harry (who of course reminds him of James Potter)- Jordan
  • At first it seem that Voldemort's line "Stand aside, you foolish girl" and offering to spare Lily's life was unimportant. Then Deathly Hallows rolls around, and Snape admits he begged Voldemort for Lily's life. Because of this, he offered to spare Lily if she let him kill Harry, and she offered herself in place. When he killed her he essentially accepted the bargain, and then went back on it, which was why the spell backfired. Because Snape asked for Lily to live, Harry is the Chosen One! It could never have been anyone else. That is brilliant. -Darkloid_Blues
  • Luna was shot from either knee or waist height, or from a distance so that her feet was out of focus in the film adaptation of "Order of the Phoenix". The only time that the camera showed her feet clearly was when she and Harry were in the Forbidden Forest, surrounded by the Thestrals, and Harry asked why she was barefoot.
  • In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. by rallying against Umbridge, they were rallying against the Ministry. If Umbridge hadn't been the DADA teacher, there would have been no reason for Dumbledore's Army to form. Dumbledore's Army was kind of its own family, and Umbridge helped form an allegiance between the entire student body and the teachers, as well as the ghosts. Without the family of DA or the entire schoolwide allegiance already established, nobody besides a few teachers would have been so willing to take up arms against Voldemort, both at the Battle of the Astronomy Tower, or the Second Wizarding War. Harry's support system would have been severely diminished, especially at the end of the seventh book. Harry would probably have not so eagerly led a group in rebellion, if it hadn't been for Dumbledore's Army. Basically, the whole reason anything in the sixth or seventh book worked at all, not to mention with as relatively few casualties there were, was because of Umbridge, and her Ripple Effect over the entire school in the fifth book. Jo, you are one clever bastard. katzgoboo
  • Remember how Trelawney in Prisoner of Azkaban makes a big fuss of there being thirteen people at the dinner table, because the first to rise will die? In Order of the Phoenix there are thirteen people at dinner in Grimmauld Place: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Fred, George, Bill, Arthur, Molly, Mundungus, Tonks, Remus and Sirius and Sirius rises first. Also J K Rowling is oft quoted on fan rumour pages as saying that a huge fan of Harry's was going to die. People took this to mean Colin Creevey or Ginny, but as she says in Order of the Phoenix Harry is the person Sirius most cares about. - Sweet-Indigo
  • Take a good look at the prophecy lines "marked as his equal" and "has power he knows not". First, consider that Harry was a horcrux, which meant he couldn't kill Voldemort without dying first, whereas Voldemort clearly had no such restriction...making them not necessarily equals. Secondly, due to Voldemort's obsessive belief that Harry was the chosen one, it meant that he disregarded most everyone else's abilities as irrelevant. Now look at Neville, who 1) would be free to defeat Voldemort without dying, and 2) clearly not deemed as important to Voldemort, would possess abilities which Voldemort did not know what they were. In short, up until the very end, it was still up in the air exactly whom the prophecy applied to. - Totemic Hero

    General Part 4 
  • There was more to Harry's angst in Order of the Phoenix than just being a broody teenager. In Deathly Hallows, while taking turns wearing the locket Horcrux, whoever is wearing it feels miserable, and their situation seems even worse than it is (and it's pretty bad to begin with). Near the end of Deathly Hallows, we learn that part of Voldemort's soul is attached to Harry's soul. So imagine having the locket Horcrux inside you at all times with no way to remove it. And this was coupled with the fact that Voldemort had come back to full power, which strengthened the connection between his soul and the piece of it in Harry. So it wasn't just Harry wangsting and whining, it was being so close to Voldemort that it made everything seem worse to him. This also opens up more Fridge Brilliance about why Harry was more upset over Cedric's death than Sirius's. Because of Harry's connection with Voldemort, it made Cedric's death more tragic to him than to anyone else, except probably Cho. Harry was very upset after Sirius died at the end of Order of the Phoenix, but didn't seem to be afterwards. Voldemort started using Occlumency against Harry sometime between the fifth and sixth books. When Harry took off the locket in Deathly Hallows, he immediately felt much less miserable. After being directly connected to Voldemort's soul for an entire year, having Voldemort blocking himself from it was enough of a relief that he was able to get over Sirius's death faster than he could have with Cedric's. -Giga Metroid 99
  • JKR is known for her placement of Chekhov's Guns throughout the novels, like the locket and the diary, which are given an importance later on (though in the case of the diary, it was more of an explanation for why it could do what it did). And the reason Harry was able to get glimpses of Voldemort's plans... was because he was bonded to Voldemort... as a Horcrux. -The Otaku Ninja
  • When Petunia reveals that she knows what Dementors are (in the 5th book), she blushes and says "I heard that...awful boy telling her years ago" and Harry angrily says "If you mean my dad, just say his name". But after you read the 7th book, you discover that she didn't mean James at all. She was referring to Snape. It's a brilliant reference that frames the relationship between Lily, Snape, and Petunia, seeming like a useless remark from both characters until you read the last book.
  • The entire "Snape's Worst Memory" sequence was set up to be much more meaningful in hindsight. At first, it appears that it is his worst memory simply because it shows him being bullied by James and his friends and ostracized at school. His encounter with Lily is just an afterthought as Harry is pulled out of the memory. Harry angsts about his father not being the hero he had pictured, and we move on. However, we later find out that this was his worst memory because, in an angry attempt to save face, he called Lily, his best friend who he had loved for years, a "filthy Mudblood", ruining their friendship (since he had already been hanging out with anti-Muggle, future-Death-Eater students who Lily hated, this was the last straw) and destroying his chances at being with her.-Kiirii XVI
  • In the film version of Goblet of Fire, FakeMoody does a pitch-perfect imitation of Hagrid saying "Marvelous Creatures, Dragons." While kind of cool, it seemed to serve no real purpose. But: While in the book series the Polyjuice Potion changes people both externally and internally, it's established in the film versions of Chamber and Hallows that Film!Polyjuice DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR VOICE. Thus, Barty Crouch Jr. was set up as being adept at Vocal Mimicry, another reason he was able to successfully pass as Moody. As much as I hate the film representation of the Junior Crouch, this was a neat little final clue before the potion wore off. - Goblin27
  • It seemed at first that Voldemort cursed the position of the DADA teacher purely out of spite (if I can't have it, nobody can). Then, after the evidences of abysmal ineptitude of the general wizarding population were presented (like the Ministry of Magic having to buy hats imbued with a Shield Charm from a prank shop), the strategic magnificence of V's move becomes clear. He ensured that the DADA classes would become a total mess, no consistent teaching routine would be possible and before long the school would run out of decent DADA teachers completely, thus dealing a crushing blow to the opposition. - Gess
  • W Sirus' nickname Padfoot seems just a sort of pun like the rest of them because dogs have padded feet.But in some British Isles mythology, the black dog is a death avatar that goes by many different names. One of them happens to be Padfoot. Now Trelawney's prediction makes a lot more sense. Sirus also is a death avatar; his friends from school all die rather violent deaths, so does Harry, and his cousin Tonks. - ashilles
  • Ron mentioned in Deathly Hallows that Voldemort had made his own name taboo—that is, if anyone said it, it would automatically dispatch the Snatchers, who would then rough them up (or, if it turned out to be Harry, turn his ass in). He not only finds a way to separate Harry from everyone else (because he knows Harry's one of the few who has the balls to say the name), he also mocks Harry's (and by extension Dumbledore's) bravery. He wants to keep the wizarding world in a constant state of fear, and creating such an intense fear of his name alone is, in my opinion, sheer, terrifying genius. We're often told that Voldemort is super intelligent and super evil, but details like this really show it. -Maiira
  • Throughout the series characters speculate on why Dumbledore never gives Snape the Defense Against the Dark Arts job. Generally, the idea is that Dumbledore doesn't trust him near the subject. Actually, its' because Dumbledore knew the job was jinxed so that no one would last more than a year, so he put off giving it to Snape to make sure Snape was always around...until there came a time when he knew that Snape would be leaving before the end of the year anyway.
  • Lily might have been so good at potions (according to Slughorn) because she was friends with Snape. If that's the case, then Slughorn was right about Harry being just like his mother. They both got their potions skills from the Half Blood Prince.
  • The Marauders are first mentioned in Prisoner of Azkaban in the order "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs". This just happens to be the reverse of the order in which they die - James first, then fourteen years later Sirius, then two years later Peter at Malfoy Manor, then a few weeks later Remus during the final battle. - Bulbaquil
  • We find out in the epilogue of Deathly Hallows that Neville became the herbology professor at Hogwarts. However, Word of God stated that he served briefly as an auror. Although he proved in the books to be adept at both herbology and auror-ing, it seems a bit of a strange career change to make. Then I realized it would make perfect sense if he ever found out his wife Hannah was pregnant — Neville was probably worried about being in such a high-risk profession, not out of fear for his own safety, but because he didn't want his kids to grow up without a father the way he had to.
  • Why is Hermione still a buck-toothed geek in her fourth year? Because her Muggle dentist parents want her to stay with braces. Why do they want her to have braces instead of the inordinately faster, cheaper, and more painless shrinking of her front teeth? Because they haven't figured out all the little exploits of magic yet, or don't want to figure it out. - Landis
  • The first thing we ever learn about Uncle Vernon is that he works at a company which manufactures drills. That's right: Uncle Vernon's job is literally boring.
  • Why is Harry the one who has to look for the Horcruxes (and Hallows)? Because he's a great seeker. It could have been indirectly foreshadowed as far back as when he first attempted to catch his letters from Hogwarts. Although that's a stretch.

    General Part 5 
  • Why does Hermione stick with Harry after Ron leaves? Remember how she had no friends before Harry and Ron in school? Also compare Harry's fallouts with Hermione in the third book and Ron in the fourth. Ron hangs around with his brothers and the boys in the class. Hermione meanwhile is left on her own - and it's her own fault. She alienates Harry after the Crookshanks incident but has learned her lesson by the sixth book. This time when she and Ron fall out, Harry still sticks by her somewhat. He's the first true friend she has ever had and she's repaying that by sticking with him. More importantly, she remembers how she felt when Harry and Ron weren't speaking to her. She knows how awful it feels to be alone and thinking your best friends hate you. She never goes back to being truly alone so it must have been truly horrible for her. She won't let Harry go through that as well in the middle of a Wizarding War.
    • Hermione's loyalty to Harry is also symbolic within the text. As Dumbledore later points out, she serves as the tempering, grounded influence that Dumbledore should've been to his former friend Grindelwald. While the two characters aren't especially close, Hermione definitely has seems to embody Dumbledore's more rational side who at one point has to convince Harry to keep his focus on the Horcuxes rather than the Hallows.
  • So when Voldemort went to kill baby Harry, he intended for that death to become his 6th horcrux — splitting his soul 7 ways. We don't actually know which item he intended to turn into a horcrux, though. We DO know he wanted to use items that belonged to the founders, and the Potters lived at Godric's Hollow.
  • Harry's ultimate plan for the Elder Wand was to put it back where it was, and die a natural death undefeated in order to break its power. On the surface, and given Word of God that he becomes an Auror, this seems like a bad plan. But the Elder Wand's ownership passes from one owner to the other upon the first person's defeat or murder. The opponent doesn't even need to know what they'd done, as proven by both Harry and Malfoy doing it by accident. So in the event Harry is ever defeated, possession would go to that person, and if that person were defeated, it would go to whoever beat him, and so on and so on until the Elder Wand's power is effectively broken by the simple fact that nobody knows who's supposed to be using the thing. — Sgamer82
  • In the Half-Blood Prince movie, when Dumbledore is trying to convince Draco that he doesn't have to kill him he says "Years ago, I knew a boy who made all the wrong choices, please don't become him." He seems to be referring to Tom Riddle, especially since this echoes his words at the welcoming feast in the beginning of the movie. However, I realized that it makes more sense if he's referring to Regulus Black. There are very few parallels between Draco and Tom Riddle, while Word of God has said that Draco and Regulus are very similar. They both got in a little too deep, but they weren't prepared for the consequences. Dumbledore doesn't seem to see Draco as someone who could possibly become the next dark lord. He seems to see that he's trapped and wants to help him. As far as Dumbledore knows, Regulus is a boy who made the 'wrong choice' to join the Death Eaters, got too far in, backed out, and got killed for it. Dumbledore doesn't want Draco to suffer the same fate, and perhaps wishes to offer Draco the protection he couldn't give to Regulus. - That Crazy Girl With Glasses
  • Just a small one from Chamber of Secrets: the flying car plummets out of the sky at the precise moment that it crosses the boundary of the Hogwarts grounds. That is, when it hits the various enchantments and protections, negating its Hovering Charms.
  • In the first book, it's easy to a small detail with Hagrid showing up at the cabin at the sea; namely, the fact that Vernon Dursley had a gun. This was a big deal: there is a strict gun ban in the UK. Vernon is so paranoid that he resorted to criminal acts in order to protect himself. - The Albino Primid
  • Slytherins are ambitious, but it's not the way one first things when asked to describe someone whose defining trait is ambition. They're grabbing what power they can in any way they can. Crabbe and Goyle didn't subjugate themselves under Malfoy because they're minions, they did so because they were presumably taught from a young age that they would be nothing on their own, and they could only grasp power by being the (non-intellectual) giants on whose shoulders Draco stood while holding onto his bootstraps as he rises to the top. Petty, cruel bullies like Pansy Parkinson and overtly violent bullies like Millicent Bulstrode push everyone else down; they are ambitious in the short-sighted way that bullies in high school, middle school/junior high, and even elementary school are bullies. As long as they're better than any random person, and especially anyone who stands against them (thus challenging their dominance), and can prove it one way or another, that's all they need to be better than everyone. Even Draco in the sixth and seventh books is showing ambition (a steady and sharp decline from his lofty expectations of the first couple or few books), be it in an increasingly desperate way: he's still playing the field as of the end of the sixth book, not necessarily hesitating out of courage or loyalty and certainly not hesitating because he calculated his best odds of survival, and by the time of the seventh book he's doing everything he can to survive under Voldemort's reign (until the Power of Love prompts a change in philosphy). If the houses were more integrated, Slytherin would probably pick off the easiest-to-manipulate First Years from Hufflepuff, but as it is, there are too many aspiring leaders and not enough lackeys so nobody (except Draco, who got Crabbe and Goyle ahead of time thanks to family connections) can build up enough of a power base to get out of the Crab Bucket. -JET73L
  • Ron Weasley as a Keeper? Brilliant. At first, it seemed like an odd position for Ron to take (considering his portrayal, he always seemed like more of a get-up-in-front Chaser type, like Ginny). However, remember the Chess Motifs. Ron, while by no means a genius on par with Slytherin cunning, is shown to have a talent for tactics, and has always stood behind Harry by "having his back". Just like a King would on the chessboard. Ron's position in Quidditch? He's a keeper, which requires him to stay in one spot and guard the goals. If he didn't have his team's back by doing that, the opposing team would simply keep scoring. Just like a King would on the chessboard. What song do the Slytherins sing, later to be modified and made awesome by the Gryffindors? Weasley is our KING . Mind=Blown.
    • Given that Ron mentions his brothers always made him play Keeper when they used him in practice, he likely chose it since it's what he has the most experience in. Then there's the fact that when he joined, it was the only opening.
  • The reason Harry and Ginny's relationship doesn't get as fleshed out as some people would like is that those are their moments. Harry's famous (both in-series and out), but it's mentioned that the moments he has with Ginny are just ordinary, sweet, romantic moments, and he feels as if they were stolen from the life of someone without a lightning scar. The author decided to give Harry some privacy. It's not just lazy writing—Harry's relationship with Cho Chang got plenty of development before it crashed and burned.
    • Not to mention the fact that Ginny and Harry aren't exactly strangers by the time they finally start going out. A lot of the fleshing out of their eventual relationship was done before the relationship became official. Another thing that wasn't described in detail was Ginny and Harry's interactions when they lived together in the Burrow over the course of several weeks every year. Starting with Chamber of Secrets, Harry's at the Burrow or otherwise living with the Weasleys for the majority of each summer and every single winter holiday. By contrast, Cho's attraction to Harry, not counting her complicated emotional state, looks that much more shallow.
  • In an old (pre-"Order of the Phoenix") chat interview, someone asked about Riddle's mention (in "Chamber of Secrets") of Hagrid raising werewolf cubs under his bed, and whether they were "the same kind of werewolves" as Lupin. Rowling stated that this never happened: "Riddle was telling lies about Hagrid, just slandering him". Of course, back in "Chamber of Secrets" no one would have batted an eye at a mention of werewolf cubs, but Professor Lupin gets introduced later and we find out that werewolves are really just people with an incurable magical disease. To call their children "cubs" and imply that they can be raised under a bed like dogs is seriously offensive Fantastic Racism, but coming from the young Voldemort, it's no surprise. It's also consistent with the way Voldemort uses Fenrir Greyback, a werewolf who's succumbed to and embraced his animalism, essentially as a dog to bite and frighten his enemies.
  • In Order of the Phoenix, when Molly Weasley encounters a Boggart in a locked cabinet, we're told what forms it takes - the lifeless bodies of her family: Ron, Bill, Arthur, Fred and George, Percy, and finally Harry. Did you notice that one tiny detail? Fred and George. Not even in Mrs. Weasley's worst nightmares could she imagine the twins being separated. -iheardavoice
  • Dumbledore, Riddle (Voldemort), Snape and Harry are four of the important characters in the series, and shared more than a few similarities. All four could be considered the best representatives of their respective generations. All four were half-bloods. All four considered Hogwarts their true home.
  • Lily and Petunia (and Narcissa) have flower names. Sure, but there's nothing really brilliant about it - until you think about the flower meanings of both. One of the meanings of the lily is death, the petunia can mean anger and resentment, and the narcissus means selfishness that leads to tragedy.
  • While still irresponsible, Fudge's skepticism regarding Harry's assertion that Voldemort was back makes a lot more sense when you consider what had happened (or, as it turns out, Snape convinced him had happened) the previous year: specifically, that Harry had been confunded by Sirius to convince him that the guy was innocent. We don't know a whole lot about the mechanics of the Confundus Charm, but just look at Dawlish's experience with it in Deathly Hallows, where being charmed lets everyone and their grandma (literally, in Neville's case) get the drop on him. Throw in Rita Skeeter's various articles throughout Goblet of Fire, and it's not that surprising that Fudge would see Harry as mentally addled at best, crazy at worst. All the evidence was indicative of just that!
  • Why would Voldemort, who Dumbledore claims is afraid of the idea of death, use Inferi (AKA Dead bodies reanimated by magic)? You would think that the Inferi would remind him that no matter how much magic someone has, they will still die. But it makes sense when you consider that Voldemort uses them to convince himself that he has some sort of control over death.
  • Who Hermione would have become if she hadn't befriended Ron and Harry : Percy Weasley. And that explain why Ron made her cry so easily. He struck right where it hurt immediately and didn't even think about it probably because that's how Percy is treated in his family (notably by the twins). The fact that Hermione realized that those two were ready to risk their lives to save her made her lie to protect them in return and generally gave her the first clue that rules aren't always the most important things which gave her the chance to prove how remarkable she could be under her bossiness. It's sad that Percy never had the chance to show this. .
  • The dormitories for Gryffindor and Ravenclaw are above ground in towers, while those for Hufflepuff and Slytherin are in the cellars. This arrangement corresponds to each House's animal mascot: lions like to stand atop tall rocks to survey their territory and eagles perch on clifftops or trees, whereas badgers and many species of snakes retreat underground to sleep.
  • It is heavily implied by various official sources that in the H.P universe JKR is a squib who wrote Harry Potter's biography and sold it to the muggles as fiction. This is wonderful because imagine the sheer joy of all the muggleborns who will be told the world of their favorite book is absolutely real. It also means that explaining the ins and outs of the wizarding world will be much simpler than before the books were published. Despite this, prime ministers will have an even harder time believing what they are told on their first night "Harry Potter really exists! Don't be ridiculous"
  • Hermione's patronus is an otter, and otters are members of the weasel family. Yet more proof of whom she'd marry!
  • A typical fanfiction device to vilify Dumbledore is that he never allowed Sirius to have a trial and didn't stop Fudge's manhunt in spite of being the head of the legislative/judicial branch of the Ministry. British law allows for bills of attainder (in short, someone who has confessed treason or murder can be chucked in prison without trial): Crouch had the Wizengamot pass a bill of attainder on Sirius based on him 'confessing' on sixteen separate felonies (the murders of Peter and twelve Muggles and aiding the murders of the Potters and Harry's attempted murder) before various witnesses, including Fudge. Meaning that, without either Wormtail being confirmed alive or a witness coming out and saying that Sirius' confession was actually him blaming himself for not having stopped the murders, Dumbledore has no way to give him a trial.
  • How did James and Lily wind up together, when James was a Jerk Jock and Lily was a loyal friend who would fiercely stand up for what is right? Well... they're not that different. They're both very loyal to their friends, even when those friends betray them, they're both very intelligent, quite popular (though, as a muggle-born, Lily still may have felt like an outcast like Snape did), magically talented, and pretty brave. They're very much two sides of the same coin; Lily uses her personality for good, and James abuses it and becomes a Jerk Jock. But then James undergoes Character Development, and it's only then that Lily begins to think of him than something other than an 'arrogant toerag.' The central theme to the books is that choices make people who they are, not inborn traits— Lily and James both made choices that made them the people who they were, and James's choices led to Lily finally falling for him!
  • In the movies, the Death Eaters' appearances were modeled after the Nazis and KKK. It made the comparisons to those organizations a little to blatant and Anvilicious. But dressing up like the Nazis and KKK would work to frighten and intimidate muggles and muggle-borns, the Death Eaters' primary victims, who would have knowledge of these groups from muggle history.
  • Several people have complained about the wizarding world only giving 7 years of formal education. This is internally consistent. In half blood prince Voldemort says that 7 is the most magically powerful number. If the nonmagical world discovered that x number of years of education is ideal, then we would ensure that people received x number of years of formal education. -timeaesnyx
  • A lot of people find it surprising that muggle-borns like Lily or Hermione can be so adept at magic. Well, it's not that they're naturally gifted with magic, they're just better at school because they've had five or six years of muggle education, which taught them skills like basic writing and academic discipline. Their wizard-raised counterparts are just starting school for the first time, and therefore have yet to adapt to the academic environment. If you compare Ron, Harry, and Hermione, you'll note that they're all pretty intelligent, but Hermione has more discipline as she applies herself most at schoolwork and is a good writer. Ron, on the other hand, is very lazy and clueless when it comes to writing essays. Harry's somewhere in the middle, as he did go to muggle school but probably didn't get as much out of it as Hermione because of mistreatment by both the Dursleys and other kids.
    • And why don't most pure-blood wizarding children go to Muggle primary school? Because the pure-bloods are generally seen as the WW's "aristocracy" (old and often powerful families), and until extremely recently, all aristocratic children were schooled at home until they were old enough for a school like Eton or Harrow.
  • Voldemort's Fatal Flaw was his inability to understand the views of others. In the end, he never really got it. He thought that becoming the 'Master of Death' meant that you wouldn't die when it really meant that you accept it without fear like so many of his enemies. So, despite all he did, because of the aforementioned flaw, he would have never gotten it. Word of God says that because of the damage he's done to himself by creating the horcruxes, he doesn't have enough of a soul to send to an afterlife of any kind or even leave a ghost, just stuck in a limbo as a shriveled husk. Tom Riddle's worst fear and the one thing he fought for in the entire series was to avoid death, and now unfortunately for him, he succeeded.
  • The brilliance of the book order. Of course, as most of us know, Cedric Diggory dies in Book 4... which is the Wham Episode that changes the whole tone of the series. There are more deaths in books 5 and 6, and characters we've come to know well literally start dropping like flies in Book 7. But before all of this was Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. One of the running themes in the book series — really from Dumbledore's discussion with Harry from the ending of Philosopher's Stone — is of death being a part of life and really not being the worst thing in the world. Before the first major character death in Book 4, you have book 3, which stands out as the oddball in the series for being the only one where Harry does not have a direct confrontation with Voldemort. What he does face, however, are the dementors, and becomes more afraid of them than possible death at Voldemort's hand, which, second to The Power of Love, is the thing that makes him best equipped to stop Voldemort - especially in Book 7 when he's required to stand at the business end of an Avada Kedavra curse to destroy Voldemort's last horcrux.
  • Avada Kedavra. The most feared spell in the entire wizarding community isn't the one that gives you complete control of another, or one that fills them with mind-breaking pain. It's an unblockable killing curse. Why? There are many worse curses that kill in much more unpleasant ways (burning, crushing, freezing) but a spell that kills someone so quickly they don't even feel it is punishable with a life sentence. In the Muggle World, while it might be disliked, no country would ever outlaw it. It's too humane a method of killing. But wizards haven't fought the large scale style battles muggles have. Their warfare is mostly one on one or one on a few duels. The fate of an entire country would be decided by one unblockable lucky shot. Obviously that couldn't be allowed.
    • It goes far deeper than that. Using it is an automatic proof of a premediated murder ("you have to mean it"). Which, as is shown in the books, damages the caster's soul. Other two Unforgivable Curses are also single-use spells with severely adverse effects. Compare with a Stunning spell, which can be lethal but it is not its basic function.
  • It makes perfect sense that Harry, Ron and Hermione don't use guns to fight Voldemort/Death Eaters. Those from purely wizarding families like Ron wouldn't even understand what a gun is, let alone think it would be any help (and those like Voldemort would actively disdain relying on something invented by Muggles). Meanwhile, Harry and Hermione (despite having Muggle backgrounds), completely lack the criminal/questionable contacts necessary to get their hands on a gun (assuming they could even work it and resupply bullets). Lastly, wands have multiple functions in combat (like disarming, confusing or stunning an enemy). Guns can only kill or maim, which is what Harry and friends avoid doing.
  • Harry thinks of Snape as a Sadist Teacher and is devastated when he becomes the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher, but when you think about it he's the only one out of six teachers who hasn't tried to kill and/or injure Harry directly.
  • Harrys explosive temper seems a bit odd, being him (generally) a calm and quiet boy. But then you remember hes lived with Vernon his complete life and its a lot more sense. First, hes been repressed to express any feeling and second, that is the only way he knows to canalize his anger.
  • It's a good way of showing how biased Snape is when he awards House Points towards his own house and unfairly takes points from others, giving Slytherin an unfair advantage in the House Cup... or using blatant cheating and trickery to give an ambitious advantage to his house, in no uncertain words. No wonder Slytherin won 7 years straight!
    • But there's practically never been an instance when Snape has actually awarded Slytherin points, no matter how much it seems like that.
  • An extra possibility for why Harry and Hermione didn't happen. At the end of the sixth book, Harry alludes to Ginny being "tough" as one of the things he loves about her. As in, he likes that she's rarely weepy. In the previous book, Harry found all of Cho's crying very unattractive - and it was one of the things that turned him off her. Hermione...well let's face it, the girl is very dramatic. She cries openly in front of Harry and Ron several times. So Harry not liking the crying type is another reason why he doesn't have an interest in Hermione. Note that when Harry is confronted with a crying girl, he behaves very awkwardly and wishes for it to be over. But when Ron is, he comforts said girl.
  • The Dursley's mistreatment of Harry is seen as being because they're small-minded bigots. Petunia is later shown to have loved her sister Lily. They were probably very close, since Lily wrote and asked about Petunia coming to Hogwarts with her and Petunia being so upset about not being allowed to go. Petunia hates magic because she sees it as what destroyed her relationship with her sister and as what ultimately got her sister killed. This is why she's shown to dislike Harry. It's not him, it's what he has; magic.
  • What was the date of Voldemort's first defeat? October 31, or Halloween. What's the term 'Halloween' short for? All Hallows Eve.
  • Why do the Unforgiveable Curses carry the maximum penalty automatically? Because of a successful casting's effect on the caster's character.

    Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 
  • In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Ronan the Centaur is angry at Firenze for saving Harry from Quirrell/Voldemort in the Forbidden Forest, as it goes against the stars' foretelling. Harry is destined to be killed by Voldemort in the forest, but not until 6 years later. — calenloki
  • Also dealing with the unicorn blood scene: Everyone at first thinks Quirrel's stuttering and turban come from a bad encounter with a Vampire in Albania. He did indeed have a bad encounter, but with Voldemort, so it appears this rumor was false. but Voldemort makes Quirrel drink blood on his behalf. — scoop712
  • When asked what's going on, all the centaurs say is that Mars is particularly bright, 4 books later Firenze explains in a Divination Class that Mars signals war. The Centaurs were telling the wizards that a War was coming! — MakiP
  • The mirror of Erised. Read it backward. — Jahwn Lemonjello
    • The entire phrase "Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi" that is carved on the mirror can be read backwards as well, reading "I show not your face but your heart's desire." -Kiirii XVI
  • The sorting hat tells Harry that he could be great in Slytherin. In other words, it was trying to appeal to Harry's ambition. That's a clever way to see if someone should be in Slytherin.
    • And Harry showed courage by asking the hat not to put him in Slytherin.
  • When Scabbers (who is actually Pettigrew, though we don't know that til PoA) bites Goyle in the scene on the train—Harry and Ron are on the verge of fighting them because, in part, Malfoy insulted Harry's parents. — meanderling
  • Ron's attempt to turn Scabbers yellow didn't just fail because it wasn't a very good spell, but because it specified a rat as its target, and Scabbers isn't really a rat. Or stupid, for that matter.
  • When Dumbledore commends Nevile Longbottom for trying to stop the Trio, he comments that while it takes courage to stand up to one's enemies, it takes a great deal more to stand up to one's friends, at the time it seemed like he was merely ensuring that Griffindor would win the house cup. However in the last book that we find out that Dumbledore's greatest regret was not standing up to his friend Grindelwald earlier, which caused the death of his younger sister, and his eventual rise to power.
  • In the shack on the island where Vernon takes the Dursleys, Harry asks Hagrid what happened to Voldermort. Hagrid's response: "Dunno if he had enough human left in him to die." That's exactly what happens: Voldemort doesn't die because only one-seventh of his soul is in his body at the time.Alex_N
  • Near the end of this book, when Harry is trying to convince Hermione and Ron to break school rules to save the Stone, Harry tells them that this is more important than school rules: "Haven't you heard what it was like when he was taking over? There won't be any Hogwarts to get expelled from! He'll either flatten it or turn it into a school for the Dark Arts!" Not at all like what Voldemort tried to do in Deathly Hallows...Vericrat
  • Just a small thing, but in the holidays, Fred and George charm snowballs to bounce off the back of Quirels turban. At the end of the book, it is revealed that Voldemorts face is on the back of Quirels head, under his turban. So the twins snowballs were hitting Voldemort! THIS MUST BE A CROWNING MOMENT OF FUNNY!
    • Likewise, when Harry first feels pain in his scar, it's when he takes a good look at Snape up at the teachers' table during the opening-day feast. What's Snape doing when Harry sees him? Talking face-to-face with Quirrell, which means that the back of Quirrell's head must've been turned towards Harry at the time. The pain wasn't because he'd seen Snape, but because Voldemort was glaring at Harry from under the turban!
  • It always seemed odd that when Quirrell announced at the Hallowe'en feast that there was a troll loose in the school dungeons [the dungeons being near where the Slytherin's dorm is] that instead of the students remaining in the great hall, they are escorted back to their dorms. Why would the teachers do that and never question how a troll managed to get in? Well, what else do students get in the great hall other than meals? Mail. It only takes one owl to come flying in to send out a message that there is a troll loose in the school. Considering how hush-hush the fact that the Philosopher's Stone is hidden at Hogwarts; there is also the fact that a troll was one of the traps set. The faculty probably assumed that it escaped and wanted to deal with it before dealing with the resulting PR issues.
    • To begin with, owls may fly in to deliver mail in the morning but this was the evening and so the owls would all be in the owlery. And even if someone just happened to have an owl in the Great Hall and sent out a message within a few minutes, it wouldn't be delivered and acted on before the troll was sufficiently dealt with as the castle isn't that big and trolls are not quiet. Also, sending students off to potentially die to delay a PR disaster will only make the PR disaster worse. And there was no way that the troll from the traps was getting out to roam the halls.
    • The students were moved to their dorms because the dorms were highly defensible, having only one entrance each too small for many trolls, while the great hall, with probably many entrances and at least some of them quite large, was not.
  • The Dursley's abuse of Harry makes much more sense when you remember that they were trying to prevent Harry from becomeing a wizard altogether and that Petunia would know that a wizards emotional state will effect their powers. By keeping him miserable and punishing any accidental use of his powers they may have caused them to go dormant given enough time. And if Harry can't use his powers then he can't go to Hogwarts and that's the end of their magical problems.
    • But remember what happened to Ariana Dumbledore. She repressed her powers after the boys attacked her and didn't use magic at all, except when it exploded violently out of her because she couldn't control it. If the Dursleys had succeeded, the same thing could have happened to Harry and it all would've been worse.
    • Except they didn't count on (nor did anyone else at that point) Harry being an accidental horcrux of Voldemort, which may be part of the reason Harry had a bit of trouble controlling his emotions. In a more specific manner (and it's actually implied by Vernon of all people before being explicitly shown with Voldemort's mother in Book 6) the thing that causes a complete loss of powers is being emotionally downtrodden. Which brings a whole new level of Fridge Horror, because that would mean the Dursleys were trying to make Harry cross the Despair Event Horizon.
    • How would Petunia know that a wizard's emotional state can affect their powers when this is a revelation to Harry in his sixth year? It is highly unlikely that Petunia, despite knowing some things about the Wizarding World, would know more than someone with over five years of schooling in magic.
      • Maybe that's why Petunia wasn't given and invitation to Hogwarts and Lily was. Maybe of the two of them, Lily was more favored (prettier, more confident, smarter, what have you) and Petunia was jealous of that and instead of lashing out at Lily she just sulked and moped about it. Come age 11, Lily's confidence in herself helped her magical ability grow to a point that the Hogwarts radar picked it up and Petunia's low self-esteem made hers sink below the radar.
      • This is more WMG than Fridge. By that logic, Neville would never have been accepted. It's mmore likely that Petunia wasn't accepted because, y'know, she was a Muggle.
      • The official wiki says that any child who has magical ability is automatically accepted into Hogwarts. Petunia just didn't have any magic in her. Likewise, Harry does, so he'd be accepted into Hogwarts regardless of whether or not he ended up repressing his powers.
  • Dumbledore explains to Harry at the end of the book that Harry's father and Snape "detested each other. Not unlike yourself and Mr. Malfoy." At the time, we, along with Harry, envision James as Harry's own righteous counterpart to Snape's Malfoy-like supremacist bullying. Book 5 makes us realize that it was James who was the prejudiced, over-privileged brat picking on Snape, who was a neglected, ostracized loner. Book 7 cements the parallel when James says to Sirius much the same thing Draco did upon meeting Harry "Imagine being in Slytherin/ Hufflepuff! I think I'd leave, wouldn't you?". (this not to say that Snape wasn't a power-hungry git who made the wrong choices or that James eventually matured and became a good man. It simply underlines how ideology isn't the only thing that makes you good or bad, it's also about personal ethics and compassion.)ladymirth
  • You know how Hagrid arrives on Sirius's motorbike at the beginning? Well, why did Sirius give him the motorbike? Probably because, as revealed in Prisoner of Azkaban, Sirius was planning on confronting Peter, and expected to end up either dead or in prison.
  • At first the protections guarding the stone seem to be only OK, if they were able to be beaten by three first years. Until you realize it took THREE first years. Each challenge was difficult, but was also set for a specific skill set. The flying keys was designed for someone with quite a bit of athletic skills, while the potions needed someone good at riddles. The troll needed someone who was good at defensive spells, while a chess master has a different set of skills and way of looking at things than some who studies a lot. Even Deadly Snare needed someone was good in Herbology or who reads a lot. Its not the individual tasks were hard, but that the chances of one person being an extremely athletic, logical, stratigist who was well read and good at defensive spells is highly unprobable. Even for three very different wizards, two of the tasks had too have already be taken care of them for them (the troll and Fluffy), it still was a challenge. No wonder it took Quirrel all year to figure out how to get past all of them.
    • And because of this multilayered protection, it almost dictated that, barring a wizard equal to the power of Voldemort himself, it would have required a team of people to reach the Mirror of Erised - and more than likely, a team of people willing to sacrifice their chance at the Stone so one person could move forward. (And given that this stone produces instant riches and immortality, good luck with that.) And of course, Dumbledore's final protection was that only someone who only wanted to find the stone - "find it, but not use it" - would be able to get it. (Which pretty much disqualifies 99.99% looking for the Stone.) One could argue that Harry nearly screwed up the plan, because if Dumbledore's words held true, Quirrelmort would have likely just stood there in front of the Mirror for a long time looking stupid if Harry hadn't shown up and willed the Stone to drop right into his pocket.
  • The 'it unscrews the other way' scene in Order of the Phoenix isn't an isolated incident of McGonagall bending the rules. It may be a long-buried desire, and we've seen it before. After all, she saved the reputation of her house's Quidditch team but recruiting a first-year who showed off his skill by recklessly breaking the rules. It wasn't even clear what she was doing at the time, and by the time Harry fully realized what had happened, he probably never made the connection (and, most likely, neither did most readers). She may have even taken deliberate advantage of Harry's lack of knowledge to keep the connection from being properly made.

    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 
  • There is a part in "Chamber of Secrets" in which the Weasleys continuously come back to the Burrow because some of the them forget their items. One of these times is when Ginny goes back to the house to get her diary. Sneaky little detail there, JK Rowling. -turtlewizard
  • I thought the Deathday Party in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets was basically a Wacky Wayside Tribe to get Harry relatively isolated while he's looking completely off his rocker. Then I read it again after the fifth book, and realized holy shit, this is their shallow imitation of the afterlife.
  • When the security at the school is stepped up, one of the first rules to be introduced is that students must be accompanied in the bathrooms. The teachers don't know about the Chamber, but they know where Myrtle died.
    • They know to some degree that there was a legend about a Chamber (Binns explains it in Book 2, McGonagall in the corresponding movie). But they believe it to be a legend - likely because of the good frame job Riddle did on Hagrid and there having been fifty years or so of time passing. Presumably, the only two professors that were at Hogwarts then and still are at the time of the book are Dumbledore and Binns... and PERHAPS Flitwick.
      • McGonagall was a student at the time (she's just a year younger than Tom Riddle, if I am not mistaken).
      • Binns couldn't have been teaching at Hogwarts the first time the Chamber was opened, look at his reaction when asked about it; he thought the whole thing was a fairy-tale.
  • When Harry and Ron polyjuice themselves, Malfoy brags about how the Ministry doesn't know about "the secret chamber under their drawing room". Harry, Ron, Hermione, Luna, Ollivander, and Griphook will see that chamber first-hand in DH.
  • Harry is revealed to be a Horcrux in the seventh book. All other Horcruxes were destroyed by basilisk venom in some way. Harry nearly died from being bitten by the basilisk... ever wonder how Harry manages to survive all sorts of horrible ordeals, including getting knocked out at least twice a book? He was a Horcrux, and normal maiming wouldn't work on him! The scene in Chamber of Secrets was the only time in the entire series where Harry really was in danger of dying... but Fawkes saved him, and Harry stabbed Riddlemort's diary with the basilisk fang, destroying it and the bit of soul inside. -pankitty
    • Possibly, although I'm not sure Harry ever survives anything that would have killed another wizard. The best candidates are the fall from the broom in Prisoner of Azkaban and the Priori Incatatem of Goblet of Fire, both of which have other explanations (Dumbledore slowed his fall, dual wand cores). Unless being a Horcrux grants you Plot Armor as well. In the case of surviving the AK the second time, that's explained by the accidental Horcrux getting zapped, and not Harry.
      • Not quite. Horcruxes aren't actually indestructible. They have to be beyond magical repair altogether. Basilisk venom is one of the methods by which it's done (you'll recall that the Diadem was actually destroyed by Fiendfyre). It's also established that magic cannot bring someone back from the dead, *meaning* death is officially "beyond magical repair." So if Harry had died by any other means than Voldemort killing him in the Forest, which had so very many factors contributing to Harry coming back, he would have been stone dead anyway.
      • Most of the ways in which Harry could have died in the books, but in fact survived, might not have destroyed him beyond magical repair. The fall, had it been not prevented by Dumbledore, might not have killed him (he's a wizard after all, they survive all sorts of things— Neville's first piece of magic was a fall and several bounces), but Avada Kedavra is the only spell that kills a person beyond magical repair. Sure, other ways of dying can achieve this, but AK is pure in the way that a horcrux being destroyed would need. For a non AK death example, Snape's death isn't beyond magical repair, only in the sense that had someone come along in time, they may have been able to stop it (with the appropriate skills and all, which the Trio obviously didn't have) or even Wormtail's death by his own magic hand—there is probably a spell or a person with the knowledge who could have stopped that from happening, they just weren't around. But AK is unblock-able AND irreversible.
      • What's more, according to the books (and confirmed by Word of God), real Horcruxes have to be intentionally created by a special ritual centering around the cold-blooded murder of someone; presumably that ritual gives the Horcruxes their special invulnerability. Harry might have been "the Horcrux that [Voldemort] never intended to create", but only in the sense that he had imprisoned a fragment of Voldemort's soul. The fragment, which in this case was created by sheer accident, did not give Harry any sort of invulnerability—it wasn't a true Horcrux. The description in quotes above could be considered Lies to Children; it's a simple way to explain it that approximates the truth, but doesn't quite match the truth in full.
      • I don't recall if Jo mentions this, but we are at least meant to presume that Voldemort intended to create a Horcrux off of Harry's death. The only accident was the container. So I wouldn't say that Harry was less of a true Horcrux than any of the others, but having a Horcrux in a human being causes extra problems that holding it in an object doesn't.
      • I was under the impression that horcruxes weren't anything more than a piece of soul contained in another object. However, a magic-user powerful enough to create one is probably also powerful and dedicated enough to give it every possible magical protection. Voldemort does seem pretty comfortable sending Nagini out on missions...
    • Ravenclaw's Diadem wasn't destroyed by Basilisk venom in any stretch of the imagination. It was destroyed by Fiendfyre in the Room of Requirement. Only in the movie was is destroyed by the Basilisk fang.
  • At the beginning, why did Vernon try to stop Harry from "escaping"? He wants nothing more than Harry gone...— Gamer From Jump
    • He doesn't want Harry around, true, but he also wants him to be miserable. When he found out that Harry wasn't allowed to use magic, he probably saw that as a chance to get rid of the problem Harry represented. If he couldn't go back to school, he wouldn't learn magic, which he hates even more than Harry.— Metroid Life
    • It's also possible that, being the kind of man Vernon is and having been very abusive to Harry all throughout childhood, it would only make sense that Vernon wouldn't want Harry learning more magic in the event that Harry would ever choose to use that magic to get back at his family (something that, although accidental, is not entirely untrue). -Rocky Samson
    • It is often claimed that the Dursley's only goal was to make Harry miserable, but this isn't strictly true. There goals were that Petunia wanted Harry alive (because he was her only surviving relative except Dudley), making Harry not a wizard (because Petunia hated wizardry and Vernon hated anything he didn't think normal), and making Harry miserable (because he was a wizard). Vernon didn't want Harry to escape because A) he wanted Harry to never be a wizard, B) he wanted Harry to be miserable and thus would try to thwart anything Harry wanted, and C) because Harry escaping wouldn't get rid of Harry, because Harry would just come back and his wife would insist on Harry being allowed to call their house "home" because she apparently wants him alive above all else. -Filksinger
  • The amazingly casual mentions of the Vanishing Cabinets throughout this book just astound me after reading Half Blood Prince. First, Harry hides in the one in Borgin and Burkes - leaving the door open a crack, thank heavens, because at this point they were both still working. Later, Nearly-Headless Nick convinces Peeves to drop the Hogwarts one above Filch's office - breaking it and thus setting up Draco's entire plotline in Book 6. Stunning! — Histry Luvr
    • Not to mention Montague of the Inquisitorial Squad (and Slytherin Quidditch Captain) in Book 5. In what seems like a typical Weasley twin pranking, Fred and George throw him in the working cabinet as he's trying to dock points from Gryffindor. It's from this seemingly throwaway (and initially funny) incident that Malfoy finds out about the connection between the two cabinets in the first place. If it wasn't for the fact that nobody but Dumbledore died from the resulting Death Eater attack on Hogwarts, this may have been a huge instance of Nice Job Breaking It, Hero. And on that note, since Rowling was very nearly in Anyone Can Die mode at the end of Book 6 anyway, one must wonder if it wasn't intentional that nobody else died as an indirect result of Fred and George's actions (Dumbledore doesn't count because of... well, you know, the plan.)
  • Harry can hear the Basilisk whispering through the pipes. Why does nobody else hear this? What sound does a snake make in it's natural habitat? That's right, a hiss. What sound does a pipe make in it's natural habitat?
    • Harry can hear and understand the Basilisk because he is a Parseltongue. If pipes were sentient maybe their gurgles would make sense too.
      • What the original Troper is saying is that everyone else COULD hear the hissing, but they assumed it was just the pipes. Because it was coming from the pipes.
  • In the movie, Acromantulas such as Aragog and his children look like colossal wolf spiders, not true tarantulas. It turns out that the word "tarantula" is originally Italian and was once used to describe what are now called wolf spiders.
  • Why are spiders (and Acromantulas) so particular afraid of the basilisk? Because spiders have eight eyes, pointing in every direction, and no eyelids. If there's a basilisk anywhere near them, they can't help but look directly at it and be killed.
    • It only works if you look directly into its eyes. Otherwise, you are fine.
  • Lockheart makes it quite known that he believes Hagrid is behind the attacks whilst escorting students from one class to the next. This seemed unusual, until quite recently when I realised he was probably still miffed that Hagrid considered Harry more famous than him and hadn't read any of his books. His pettiness knows no bounds.
  • Dobby's name. Dobby or Dobie is a type of fairy, one described as "foolish and helpful". Dobby sincerely wanted to help Harry stay safe (helpful) but went around to trying to achieve that aim in the completely wrong way (foolish).
  • Looking at a basilisks eyes indirectly protects you from death... Would eyeglasses work to prevent death?
    • They didn't save Myrtle, who was crying in the toilet stall because someone had been making fun of her eyeglasses.
    • Actually, the opposite would work as well. If looking directly translates to making eye contact, would not having your glasses (which means, in both near- and far-sightedness) prevent death, since you can't really focus on the basilisk's eyes (far-sighted up close and near-sighted more than a meter away respectively).
    • Myrtle mentioned that she was crying when she heard Tom Riddle opening the sink, and she came out to tell him to get out of the bathroom, so she might have taken off her glasses to clear her eyes and not put them on before seeing the Basilisk.
  • Why does Lockheart grab Ron's wand in order to cast his mind-erasing spell? Simple - he's the only teacher who hasn't been teaching magic, so he's the only one who doesn't know that Ron's wand is broken and screws up spells!
  • Why is Hermione so annoyed with Harry and Ron for flying the car to Hogwarts? Because she has no other friends at that point and is mad at them for her having to be on her own the whole train ride to Hogsmeade.
  • The throwaway mention of Flitwick having been a dueling champion in his youth makes a lot of sense when you look at him or read a description of him. He probably fought with Charms - repurposed non-combat magic you wouldn't normally think would be used for duels - not to mention he was about three feet tall. Of course most adult wizards would have trouble beating him in a duel. As a highly intelligent Charms user, he probably thought outside the box in ways that most would-be duelists wouldn't see coming - but more importantly, his low profile probably made him much harder even to hit with a spell at a distance.

    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban 
  • In Harry's first Divination lesson (or maybe not first) Trelawney predicts that Harry was born around Midwinter. Now, he was born on July 31st, so that doesn't make any sense. But, Midwinter might not mean the middle of winter, Trelawney could have been (subconsciously or otherwise) referring to the more traditional use of the word, with the meaning of "at or around the winter solstice". This is still stupid, because Winter Solstice is like the 22nd of december, so still not close to Harry's B-Day. But, a birthday near the Winter Solstice, is December 31st. The birthday of Tom Riddle. The essence of what I'm trying to say, is that Trelawney wasn't reading Harry's "mind," but rather reading off of the but of Voldemort's soul within him.
  • You know the 'thing you are dreading will happen on the 16 of October' prophecy, to Lavender? Hermione uses it to prove that Trelawney is a fraud, as Lavender couldn't have been dreading what happened (her rabbit dying), as it came as a shock to her. But, the prophecy makes perfect sense if you assume one thing: it was a Self Fullfilling Prophecy! Lavender wasn't dreading her rabbit dying, which probably didn't happen on the 16th (she only got the news then), and came as a shock, but something bad happening on October 16, as per Trelawney's prophecy. And something did: she got the news of her rabbit dying.- Anon Fangeek Girl
  • Remember Snape's line just as he entered the Shrieking Shack and was staring down Lupin and Sirius, of how he dreamed about getting revenge on the both of them? Well, it didn't hit this troper until Order of the Phoenix, during Harry's one Occulmency lesson with Snape that accidentally revealed Snape's most traumatic memory and just how much hatred and revenge he wanted to foster to these two.
    • Actually, the real reason that he wanted revenge against Sirius was because he believed that Sirius betrayed the Potter's to Voldemort and lead to Lily's death. And while he was able to pretend in front of Voldemort, because he knew attacking him would be futile, he had no reason to hold back when he thought Sirius was the traitor. It's the same reason that he continually harassed Pettigrew at the start of the 6th book.
      • I don't believe that Snape had no knowledge about Pettigrew being the spy—he was a Death Eater and Voldy probably didn't care for peter's spying enough to keep it a secret from the rest of the Death Eaters, especially since Snape was the one who told V about the prophecy, so he must have been in his good graces even then. The whole thing about snape's character is that he isn't a noble, misunderstood hero- he is still vindictive towards his former bullies, hateful towards gryffindors in general etc. His only saving grace is his love for Lilly, and from that stem his good characteristics, for instance- he never used the word mudblood apart from that one time he shouted it at Lilly.
      • Pettigrew was never a spy, per-se - he was worst, a turncoat. He didn't work for Voldemort until the day that he was named as the Potters Secret Keeper, and by then it would be too late for Snape to ever find out. Its impossible any other way—Snape came to Dumbledore and pledged his life in return for Lily's service before James and Lily went into hiding, and thus before they named Pettigrew secret keeper, so if he had known Pettigrew was a spy, he would have told Dumbledore right away that Pettigrew was a spy working for Voldemort, and they would have just, I dunno, shot him or something. Pettigrew was always a coward, hiding beind those with more power who would tolerate him. and he now had a way to make sure Voldemort, the most powerful wizard alive, tolerated him. So basically, Pettigrew's defection and betrayal would be known by only four Witches and/or wizards - Pettigrew, Sirius (by virtue of figuring it out), Voldemort, and the Death Eater Pettigrew contacted to get the information to Voldemort. Who was probably in Azkaban.
      • Pettigrew was a spy, and was definitely not known to Snape. First, Remus and Sirius stated that there had been a spy on the inside of the Order for over a year. They accused Pettigrew of being that spy, and he did not deny it despite the fact he was pleading for his life. Second, Voldemort deliberately kept his Death Eathers from knowing anything they didn't need to know, so that a traitor couldn't tell anyone too much. Look how surprised Beatrix was when she found out Snape knew Voldemort's plan in the sixth book. Third, of course he considered Wormtail important; he was in the Order and close friends the Potters, making him terribly valuable. Lastly, and most importantly, if Snape knew that Voldemort's spy was inside the Order and didn't tell Dumbledore, then Snape betrayed Dumbledore. Far worse, if he knew the spy was a good friend of the Potters who might betray them to Voldemort at any moment, then he was deliberately betraying Lily. Snape betrayed Lily unintentionally, and the knowledge drove him to break down and beg Dumbledore for their lives, promising "anything" if he would protect Lily. There is no way he would have done something so incredibly stupid and dangerous to Lily deliberately, not even if Dumbledore himself ordered it.
      • Pettigrew also seems to believe Sirius when he claims that all of the Death Eaters in Azkaban know about him.
      • Snape didn't know about Peter being a DE. Snape was pretty low in rank for the DE's back when he was younger and not every DE knows everyone else. Peter, as you pointed out, believed Sirius when he claimed that all DE's in Azkaban knew about him, but here's the thing; Snape was never in Azkaban. And as the person pointed out once more, there is no way that Snape would do something so stupid as to withhold info about Peter. He holds a grudge, yes. But not so much of one that he'd purposely endanger Lily's life, send Sirius to Azkaban, and betray Dumbledore. Which would make all of his actions in the 7th book pointless and make no sense if he really did know about Peter. So I totally agree with the person above.
  • "Another Troper mentioned this on another page." Well, fine, but I'll mention it here and Fridge it correctly at the same time. In Prisoner of Azkaban, when Snape confronts Sirius, he says: "Give me a reason. Give me a reason to do it and I swear I will." Pretty harsh, but remember, this is the guy that almost got Snape eaten by a werewolf. Then in Goblet of Fire and Order of The Phoenix, they're a bit more civil to each other, but still obviously carrying grudges. Fast forward to Deathly Hallows, and Harry's magical mystery tour through Snape's memories shows him that Snape was in love with Lily. And the realization hits with a big KA-BOOM. Like the entire rest of the magical world, Snape had thought that Sirius betrayed the Potters and was responsible for Lily's death, and only found out the truth after Voldemort's return (when he went to Voldemort two hours after the Triwizard final and would have seen Pettigrew there). This instantly did two things: put a whole new spin on that entire confrontation, and made you realize how far in advance JKR had planned out the whole thing. — DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
    • Additionally, there's another reason why Snape is so openly hostile to Sirius in book 5, specifically insinuating he's a coward—he probably blames (undoubtably rather irrationally, but still) Sirius for agreeing to let Peter be the secret keeper, feeling that if Sirius had just insisted more strongly that he be made the secret keeper instead, Lily would still be alive. — Arcane Azmadi
      • That last part doesn't make sense. Sirius was the one who insisted to have Peter be appointed as the Secret Keeper
    • Also, Snape was in the Shrieking Shack while Sirius and Lupin were explaining the whole thing. I was re-reading it, and I heard the creak and thought "Oh my gosh, that's Snape!" He was late to the party, however, and only heard about his childhood days at Hogwarts: nothing about the Secret Keeper. He still thought Black was the one who betrayed the Potters and that he was deluding Harry, Hermione, and Ron. ~mermaidgirl45
  • I thought at first that Voldemort's line "Stand aside, you foolish girl" and offering to spare Lily's life was unimportant. Then Deathly Hallows rolls around, and Snape admits he begged Voldemort for Lily's life. Because of this, he offered to spare Lily if she let him kill Harry, and she offered herself in place. When he killed her, he essentially accepted the bargain, and then went back on it, which was why the spell backfired. Because Snape asked for Lily to live, Harry is the Chosen One! It could never have been anyone else. That is brilliant. -Darkloid_Blues
    • On another note, Lily, a Muggle-born Witch, should have been an automatic kill for Voldemort, however, Snape requested her life be spared and Voldemort agreed. Why? Because unlike the Malfoys, Crabbes, Goyles, or even Regulus Black, Snape is the only Death Eater shown without a strong family, but instead is in the same emotional circumstance as Voldemort: he wasn't raised by his parents, but (aside occasionally Dumbledore)by his first friendship with Lily, who was essentially the only person Snape has ever cared about. Voldemort may not feel love, but he understands that it exists and understands that other people experience it.
      • Lily's death explains Snape being a master at Occlumency to the point where Voldemort can't see the truth: his interactions with Lily determined his emotional state. No Lily means no emotions for Snape. Even after Lily's death,the only thing Snape cares about is protecting Harry because he loved her, and to repay the debt he feels he owes towards her.
    • Yes, and another thing: at the end of book 7, Harry agrees to sacrifice himself to protect everyone else, and as a result, Voldemort's spells don't work against anyone (silencing the crowd and freezing Neville). So what basically happened is Snape saved Lily, Lily sacrificed herself to save Harry, and Harry sacrificed himself to save everyone. - Anon IP
      • Except, you know, Colin, Fred, Remus, Dora and Snape himself, which shows how much of a raw deal he got — unless one accounts for the fact that all these people mentioned died before Harry's self-sacrifice took place, so the protection came too late for those already killed off.
      • It wouldn't have saved them anyway. Snape was killed by snake venom, not Voldemort's magic, and the others were not killed by Voldemort even via snake. Harry's protection only protected against the direct action of Voldemort, not his servants.
  • It suddenly occurred to me why the Dementor's Kiss was used as punishment instead of death: People can just come back as ghosts if their soul isn't harmed. -gumbal1
    • Though whether coming back as a ghost is particularly desirable is another question all together.
    • Sir Nicholas, the Gryffindor's ghost, says that being a ghost is what happens when one is so afraid of what happens after dying that they remain in the normal world, a behaviour regarded as cowardly.
      • ...Does that mean that we could very well see a ghost of Voldemort floating around nineteen years later?
      • No, Rowling's said his soul is too broken to become a ghost. He's forced to stay as that flayed baby in the afterlife.
      • Well, what about Bellatrix Lestrange?
      • I think she was too fanatical to be that scared of death.
  • Rereading the series, and just realized something: when Harry, Hermione, Ron, Neville, and Ginny are confronted by the Dementor on the Hogwarts Express in Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry passes out because, to paraphrase Lupin's later quote: "There are horrors in Harry's past that the others don't have." However, remember that of the other four kids, the one most affected is Ginny, "who was huddled in her corner looking nearly as bad as Harry felt". Not much emphasis is put on this, but the reason is that she's only two months removed from having been Mind Raped by Diary Horcrux-Voldemort. -Di Sc Or Dt He Lu Na Ti C
    • Also Neville was very pale and his voice was higher then normal. Neville's parents were tortured into insanity and can no longer recognize him, thats pretty traumatic. -FIREFLYER 88
      • And if Harry's trauma was remembering his parents being murdered..., we don't know if Neville was around (hidden perhaps) when his parents were tortured by Bellatrix and the Lestranges. He could also be remembering bits and pieces of that.
      • Dementors are the personification of PTSD, basically.
  • When reading Prisoner of Azkaban, I thought Sirius's nickname Padfoot was just a sort of pun like the rest of them, because dogs have padded feet. Now, after looking into some of the British Isles mythology, the black dog is a death avatar that goes by many different names. One of them happens to be Padfoot. Now Trelawney's prediction makes a lot more sense. Sirus also is a death avatar; his friends from school all die rather violent deaths, so does Harry, and his cousin Tonks. - ashilles
    • A padfoot is also sometimes slang for a thief. Make of that what you will.
  • It just dawned on me that the Marauders are first mentioned in Prisoner of Azkaban in the order "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs". This just happens to be the reverse of the order in which they die - James first, then fourteen years later Sirius, then two years later Peter at Malfoy Manor, then a few weeks later Remus during the final battle. - Bulbaquil
  • One I noticed my first time reading Azkaban all those years ago (and expected to see on here) was this: Harry's dad was the genius behind the three animagi — an incredibly difficult transfiguration to pull off [no comment on how Rita Skeeter did it] which he pulled off at, like, thirteen years old. Back in Book one, Ollivander described Daddy Potter's wand as "good for transfiguration." Wand and wizard were more than just good; they were exceptional! glotof
    • Um, where does it say that James Potter managed to transfigure himself at thirteen? Lupin says that they managed to transform in to Animagi in their fifth or sixth year, not their third.
      • Lupin said they figured out the theory and mechanics behind it in their third year, but only were able to pull it off successfully in their fifth year. Still pretty impressive, for a bunch of rowdy fifteen year olds.
  • Just realized why Voldemort has so much control over Dementors, and why Dementors don't seem to affect him like everyone else: Voldemort's soul is so tiny, the Dementors see a creature similar to them, and thus, are more likely to follow him! Also, the fact that his soul is so small means that the Dementors wouldn't get much out of it. On the flipside, the reason Harry is so affected by Dementors, and why they always seem to go for him: Harry is established as having a particularly powerful soul, full of all the things that Voldemort has ignored in his pursuit of immortality. To the Dementors, they see something so unlike them, that they need to put it out, to consume Harry's soul would be like a rare feast, since his heart is full of the things that Dementors feed on.
    • Also Harry has a bit of <i>extra</i> soul... Voldemort's soul piece. Which, while maybe not as satisfying, but still a bit extra on top of a particularly delicious soul.
  • Several different people mention that Dumbledore dislikes Dementors. While he let's them guard the school, he doesn't let them enter the grounds and is furious when they do. This seems perfectly reasonable - Dementors are, after all, nasty creatures - but there is a simpler explanation: Every time the Dementors come near him, Dumbledore has to relive Ariana's death.
    • Hopefully his desire to spare the children that and the risk of having their souls sucked out also played a part.
    • Has he ever faced a boggart on screen?
      • Nope, but it's implied that would be his worst memory by the cave scene in the sixth book. Still, when you've lived as long and been through as much as Dumbledore, it's not likely he'd just experience Ariana's death again. That would probably be most prominent, but he's also dealt with the pressures of leading the wizarding world, the war against Grindelwald (who he was in love with, mind), his utter and abysmal failure to prevent Tom Riddle becoming Voldemort, the war against Voldemort... really, the only thing that would make someone tastier to a Dementor than the trauma Harry's gone through, is old age.
  • On the American English hardback jacket, the preview information gives plenty of information on Sirius, From a Certain Point of View. It implies guilt, but does not explicitly state it as fact. Additionally, the last sentences are "Harry Potter isn't safe, not even within the walls of his magical school, surrounded by his friends. Because on top of it all, there may well be a traitor in their midst". At the bottom of this fold in the jacket is a rat, which unlike everything else on the cover, is small, casts a large shadow, and seems unnecessary. It's even standing on its hind legs. —Wanderlust Warrior
  • The third Harry Potter film has a chock full of these to make up for its Adaptation Decay and Narm. Several moments in the film foreshadow things that will happen later in the series:
    • Harry's number in the Quidditch game - his shirt says "POTTER 7", is said to foreshadow Harry turning out to be Voldemort's seventh horcrux. However, he is the sixth: diary, ring, cup, locket, diadem, and Harry. The seventh horcrux, Nagini, was made when Voldemort was about to return, some thirteen years after the attempt on Harry's life.
    • Harry sees Sirius's face in a crystal ball calling his name. Sirius is the reason Harry finally hears the prophecy.
    • When Harry is coming to after his Quidditch accident you can hear one of the twins say "Let's throw you off the Astronomy tower and see how you look", a rather dry joke about another character who later gets thrown off the Astronomy Tower.
      • This is actually more of a Funny Aneurysm than Fridge Brilliance as the PoA movie came out a year before HBP was released. -ZigZag
      • Unless Rowling let something slip. Months before Deathly Hallows was even finished, she accidentally let the fact that Dumbledore would play a significant role in that book slip to the cast on the set.
      • Rowling herself mentions the 'accidental' foreshadowing in one of the interviews on the DVD. Cue crazed fans scrutinizing the movie.
    • When Lupin and Harry discuss Harry's parents Lupin mentions that Lily had a gift for seeing the good in everyone, "even when that person could not see it in themselves". Initially we assume he's talking about himself but he had three best friends and amazing adventures with them, he felt great. He was really talking about Snape whose only real friend was Lily.
      • Interesting theory, but there's no evidence to suggest that Lupin ever realized that Lily did see good in Snape. If he had, he would have trusted him more.
      • No evidence? Snape and Lily were openly friends for five years at Hogwarts and Remus might have realized that they knew each other before. Clearly Lily was seeing some sort of good in him even if Remus didn't know what it was or thought that Lily was being too generous about Snape's character.
      • Lupin was describing his own friendship with Lily, but his description also describes her friendship with Snape as well.
    • Snape shields Harry, Ron and Hermione from the werewolf Lupin when he attacks, foreshadowing his true allegiance.
    • Ron and Hermione's future relationship is foreshadowed such as when she grabs his hand during the Care of Magical Creatures class and when she turns to him for comfort after she thinks Buckbeak has been killed.
      • It seems to me that their relationship is foreshadowed when Hermione is sorted into Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw. Even though she probably didn't realize it herself by then, in this case she went with her heart instead of her brain.
    • In the third film, despite the choir singing an ominous Shakespeare verse, among other dark aesthetics, the film ends on a rather happy note. Many found this strange, until they realized that the events of the film set the stage for the return of Voldemort in the next one. -dmeagher101
  • This is one I realized ages ago, but every animagus in the series turns into an animal indicative of his or her true personality. James became a stag, a proud leader (plus possible Bambi references). Sirius became a dog, and he was very loyal, a prized trait in dogs. Peter Pettigrew became a rat, Wikipedia has them as "vicious, unclean, parasitic animals that steal food and spread disease" and further comments "It is a term (noun and verb) in criminal slang for an informant - "to rat on someone" is to betray them by informing the authorities of a crime or misdeed they committed. Describing a person as "rat-like" usually implies he or she is unattractive and suspicious." Rita Skeeter became a beetle, which are often seen as pests. As for McGonagall, well...
    • Word of God is that animagi don't choose their animal form and it's indicative of their personality/true nature like a patronus. Which makes one wonder if the animal form can also change like it's said to happen very rarely with a patronus.
    • Going further, maybe the form your Patronus takes (if you can produce a corporeal Patronus) indicates your Animagus form? I can so imagine McGonagall having some feline species as her Patronus... - piratemonkey06
      • You would be correct. Book 7 reveals that her patronus is indeed a cat.
      • And it looks exactly like her Patronus with the spectacle markings! - Hermione P
      • That also sort of brings up the question of what Snape's Animagus form would be, considering his Patronus is, well, a doe. A female deer. Let that sink in for a moment.
      • HBP states that a person's Patronus can change if there is a great shock or a change in a person's personality. Whatever Patronus Snape had, it changed to reflect Lily's after her death.
      • Additionally, a Patronus is created with a very happy, powerful memory. It's heavily implied that Snape's only happy memories are of Lily, as he had a miserable home life and wasn't well liked at school. If he learned to create a Patronus after she had died, it might have taken on the form of a doe because she's all the happiness he ever had.
  • Hermione's boggart is Professor McGonagall telling her she's failed all of her classes—not because she's afraid of academic underachievement (although yes, she certainly is) but because she's afraid of failure and being inadequate.
    • She doesn't even say "classes", she says "everything".
    • This might have been related to her awareness of being a muggle-born, and therefore having to prove (at least to herself) that she belongs in the wizard world. Couple that with what had to have been a drastic shift in paradigm after receiving her letter. She seems like exactly the type of person that, if she had lived her whole life as a Muggle, would have grown up to be skeptical of things like magic because they didn't fit into her logical mindset.
    • In addition, the fact that it's Mcgonagall telling her emphasizes the similarities between them. Sure, it could be easy to just say that Mcgonagall's one of the most prominent professors in the series, however it shows how she also desire approval from her like-minded mentor.
  • After Snape confiscates and attempts to read the Mauraders Map, he calls Lupin, and asks him if he believes Harry might have gotten the map from the makers. While it's not obvious at the time, he's indirectly accusing Lupin of giving Harry the Map - after all, he went to school with the Marauders, and knows the nicknames they gave themselves. At the end of the conversation, Lupin says, "I'll take this (the map) back, shall I?" even though he hasn't held it at any point during the conversation. Of course, Lupin is one of the owners.
  • Snape wasn't just trying to secretly out Lupin as a Werewolf — did he know that the other Marauders had turned themselves into Animagi? Because if he did, he may have been warning Harry about Sirius being an animagus.
  • At the very end of the story, Harry says that "none of it made any difference". In a way, this makes it something of a Shaggy Dog Story. Who was the Prisoner of Azkaban? A Shaggy Dog. To take it one step further, Lupin replies "it made all the difference in the world!" What seemed like a Shaggy Dog Story at first was actually something much more meaningful. Sort of like how the Prisoner of Azkaban was not just a "Shaggy Dog".
  • When Harry and Hermione are on their way back to the Hospital Wing after rescuing Sirius from the tower, they hear Peeves "bouncing along the corridor in boisterous good spirits, laughing his head off." Hermione assumes that Peeves is "all excited because the dementors are going to finish off Sirius" However, we know from book 5 that Peeves likes the school troublemakers, like Fred and George. Peeves isn't celebrating because Sirius got caught- he's celebrating because he knows Sirius escaped.
  • Fudge and Dumbledore's exchange after Snape's tirade at the end turns out to be mildly foreshadowy. Fudge says Snape seems unbalanced and that "I'd watch out for him if I were you, Dumbledore," but Dumbledore is unfazed. Three years later, Snape will prove to indeed be somebody Dumbledore apparently should have been watching out for, but in the end we learn Dumbledore was right to trust him.

    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
  • The first chapter of Goblet of Fire seemed kind of like filler. It established a little more about Voldemort's Muggle father, and it showed that Wormtail had found Voldemort and was helping him, but that could have easily been established later. Except it was also the first time we saw Nagini, and in fact her only appearance in the book (she next returns in the aforementioned scene in Order of the Phoenix, when Voldemort is ordering her to attack Arthur Weasley). The chapter serves to introduce the character by name, so it makes more sense when we see her in the next book, and also to show us the time at which she became a Horcrux, as Voldemort was still one short of his goal when he went to kill the Potters. That's not the brilliant part. In Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore mentions that there should be four other Horcruxes, because Voldemort wanted to split his soul into seven pieces and two of the six horcruxes had been destroyed — Dumbledore is seemingly working off of the assumption that Voldemort doesn't know that he accidentally turned Harry into a Horcrux. This might not be true. Dumbledore also confirmed what the graveyard scene in Goblet of Fire hinted at (when Voldemort was reaming out Lucius Malfoy about the diary): Voldemort knows when one of his Horcruxes is destroyed. This means that it's possible that Nagini was meant to be a replacement for the destroyed Horcrux, and that he already knew that he had five remaining Horcruxes — the ring, the goblet, the locket, the diadem, and Harry.SpiriTsunami
    • Erm, no. First off, Voldemort never realizes he turned Harry into a Horcrux until the ending of Deathly Hallows (Voldemort is trying to kill Harry at every turn, which would be counterproducent to his plans). Second, Voldemort's intention was to divide his soul in seven parts (6 Horcruxes and himself). Of course, he had accidentally done it on Halloween 1981, when he tried to kill Harry, and after Harry destroyed the Diary (bringing it down to 5 Horcruxes) Voldemort used Nagini as another Horcrux. Then, Voldemort never asks Malfoy about the Diary in the graveyard scene, that happens much later - and off-panel. Voldemort also never learns that his remaining Horcruxes are being destroyed until after Harry, Ron and Hermione escape with Hufflepuff's Cup from Gringotts - something that he only fully learns after interrogating the Gringotts staff. Also, Dumbledore never said Voldemort knew his Horcruxes were getting destroyed, and in fact said the complete opposite, stating something along the lines of "As those pieces of his soul have been separated for so long from the main part of it, he is unable to detect their being destroyed".
    • Nagini's second appearance is in the graveyard, before the duel (Voldemort tells it that she can act later).
    • Finally, the Horcrux timeline: before Halloween 1981, Voldemort has 5 Horcruxes (Diary, Ring, Locket, Cup and Diadem in Lucius Malfoy's manor, Gaunt's shack, the cave (actually 12 Grimmauld Place), Bellatrix Lestrange's Gringotts Vault and the Room of Requirement) and intended to use Harry's murder for the 6th. Instead, the Avada Kedavra backfires, destroying his body, and another Horcrux is accidentally created in Harry's scar. Then, in June 1993, Harry destroys the Diary, and in July 1994, Pettigrew finds Voldemort, who makes what he thinks is his 6th Horcrux by killing an Albanian peasant, using Nagini as a vessel. Then, the Ring is destroyed by Dumbledore in late summer 1996, the Locket in December 1997, and the last four (Cup, Diadem, Harry and Nagini) in May 2nd 1998. - Milarqui (again)
  • This is only speculation though, but is it possible that in cutting Harry's hand in the Graveyard scene, Voldemort was not only trying to draw on the power in Harry's blood, but maybe also that of the soul that he put into Harry on accident in order to regenerate? In doing so, the fact that that soul piece and Harry's are so intertwined that part of Harry's may have come with it. I have nothing to back that up with and it's only speculation. But I also just realized that we have no idea what transverse effects that soul piece could have on a living person when the original maker of that Horcrux uses it to continue living. We do know based on Harry as a case study that Voldemort's soul piece from the Horcrux is heavily intertwined with his. — youngcosette
    • No. For starters, it's Wormtail who cuts Harry's arm. Second, Voldemort states many times that he only wants Harry's blood for what he assumes is a powerful magical blood-based protection - that, and killing him. Also, he knows that he has the connection with Harry thanks to Snape, but he never thinks that it might be due to the piece of his soul in Harry's scar. Thus, his constant attempts to kill Harry would make no sense.
  • Goblet of Fire has another small moment of brilliance. When the trio is trying to figure out how Rita Skeeter was able to overhear private conversations, Harry suggests Rita had Hermione bugged with an electronic device. Of course, that isn't possible because electronics don't work in the wizarding world. However, Harry was onto something, because by the end of the book we find out Rita Skeeter's secret: she is an unregistered animagus, her form being a beetle. Hermione literally was ''bugged''!
    • This is actually an in-universe example — Hermione cites Harry's line about her being "bugged" as what led her to realize the truth.
  • Okay, this one is admittedly fairly stupid, but just hear me out: You know that tent that is described as looking like a small mansion, with peacocks in a fenced-in yard? Well, I personally believe it's foreshadowing for what is to come in the later books - I believe it was the Malfoys' tent, which they enchanted to look exactly like a miniature version of their house! ~ Kyo X Tohru 1
  • In the film version of Goblet of Fire, Fake!Moody does a pitch-perfect imitation of Hagrid saying "Marvelous Creatures, Dragons." While kind of cool, it seemed to serve no real purpose. Then I realized something: While in the book series, the Polyjuice Potion changes people both externally and internally, it's established in the film versions of Chamber and Hallows that Film!Polyjuice DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR VOICE. Thus, Barty Crouch Jr. was set up as being adept at Vocal Mimicry, another reason he was able to successfully pass as Moody. As much as I hate the film representation of the Junior Crouch, this was a neat little final clue before the potion wore off. - Goblin27
    • This troper thinks that not much weight should be given to the movies in terms of canon. I'm almost entirely certain that this was merely cinematographic effect in order for the viewer to tell who was actually who. Also, had this been the case, I think it would have been likely to have been at least hinted at in the books. In fact, the books even show that this isn't true in DH when the trio sneak into the Ministry under Polyjuice. "Looks like it, Harry whispered back; his voice came out deep and gravelly." Harry, who never met Runcorn (as Ron and Hermione got the hairs for him), would have no idea what his voice sounded like.
      • I think you misread. The troper you're replying to acknowledged that in the books the voice changes. But we know that isn't true for the movies, so it makes sense for the movies.
  • The Beautiful All Along page led me to this thought: Why is Hermione still a buck-toothed geek in her fourth year? Because her Muggle dentist parents want her to stay with braces. Why do they want her to have braces instead of the inordinately faster, cheaper, and more painless shrinking of her front teeth? Because they haven't figured out all the little exploits of magic yet, or don't want to figure it out. - Landis
    • As muggle dentists, who spent years training and studying their craft, then years more using it to slowly and painfully correct childrens' teeth, I would imagine they consider using magic to do the same as the worst kind of cheating, just as a muggle chef would feel against Molly's cooking, for instance.
    • This becomes sad when you realize that it is around this time when she starts to seem less close to her parents. In book two she stays with them for the summer, in book three she at least goes on vacation with them, in book four she has a specific reason for wanting to visit the Weasleys at that particular time (the Quidditch World Cup). But by book five she's spending most of the summer with the Weasleys (and at the Black house, where she's basically going to be spending her 'visit' as part of their cleaning team) and blowing off a ski trip to comfort Harry, Ron and the others. Granted she has bigger reasons to stay with them now-the war and Arthur's near death-but she has begun to distance herself from her parents and their values.
      • Which, in hindsight and in a twisted sort of way, might actually be a good thing, since in Deathly Hallows Hermione puts a memory charm on her parents and removes herself from their lives so they can go into hiding. She was already broken up at having to do this, and it would have hurt all the more if she had to do it while she was still very close to them.
  • At the end of the book, Jo specifically mentions that Dumbledore's eyes "lingered on the Durmstrang students" when he said that all the guests would be welcome back at Hogwarts at any time. At that point, it's implied that he's thinking of the school's Dark Arts reputation. In the light of his one-sided relationship with Grindelwald, however, one wonders what he's really hoping for... —AMA
    • More likely, he sees a bunch of young Durmstrang students and is reminded of Grindelwald, which would cause him to briefly reminisce about the mistakes he had made... -The Naive Skeptic
  • Re-reading the book, I realized that in Ron and Harry's big fight, Ron actually makes an effort to make up before Harry does. Reading between the lines of the scene where Ron interrupts Harry's conversation with Sirius, it becomes clear that Ron was waiting up for Harry, presumably to try to make up with him, but when he came down Harry was so rude to him that he gave it up for the moment. Note also that Ron doesn't retaliate when Harry throws a badge at him and he acts less distant towards him the next day.
  • I always wondered what the difference between a ferret, a stoat, and a weasel as a kid (thank you Redwall). Scientifically speaking all three share the same family and genus making them the biological equivalent of distant cousins. So fridge!Brilliance struck me when I recalled Draco insultingly refers to the Weasleys as weasels and he got turned into a ferret. Considering Arthur claims the Malfoys are distantly related to the Weasleys, this is hilarious.
  • When Ron states that he is only interested in "pretty girls," no matter their personality, and then rejects Eloise Midgen as a date because her nose is very slightly off center, I always thought that Hermoine was overreacting to his comments, then I remembered: at this point, Hermoine still has her buck-teeth, so she is actually reacting to hearing the boy she has a crush on state that he likely has no interest in her because she isn't 'pretty' by his standards!
    • Also her reaction to the "pair of trolls" remark. Perhaps she was worrying that Ron thought of her as a "troll" and that was why he hadn't asked her.
  • When Snape tells Harry that he knows that he took boomslang skin and gillyweed from his private stores, Harry automatically thinks that he is thinking back to the Polyjuice from Chamber of Secrets. In fact, Snape was almost certainly thinking about the recent removals by Fake!Moody, which Harry honestly had no knowledge about.
  • In the scene where Mrs. Weasley is cooking, she accidentally puts too much energy into a potato-peeling spell and knocks the whole pile onto the floor. This happens because she's a mite miffed with Fred and George over a prank they'd pulled on Dudley. Guess who turns out to have a ton of power at her disposal in book 7, when Bellatrix gives her something to really be furious about?
  • Why couldn't Parvati and Padma Patil, who are described in the book as "the two prettiest girls in the year", find dates before Harry and Ron asked them (or, rather, Harry asked Parvati and then asked Padma on Ron's behalf)? Once Padma's introduced, they go everywhere together, so they must be fairly close. It's very likely, then, that Parvati was turning down guys that had asked her (because, given her looks and outgoing personality, there's no way Harry was the first one) so Padma, who was bookish and probably shy, wouldn't be left alone.
  • When Harry first opens the egg in the Gryffindor common room and everyone hears the screaming, Neville thinks it sounds like someone being tortured and that Harry might have to face the Cruciatus Curse during the second task. It's easy enough to connect this to his parents. However, there's also a subtle Call Back when Seamus interprets the screaming as a banshee - shown to be his boggart in the previous book. In other words, both Neville and Seamus interpreted the egg's clue as something they were personally afraid of.
  • The idea that there's no loophole to get someone out of the tournament if they didn't enter themselves or got cold feet seems utterly ludicrous until you remember an important fact: It was Crouch who said there was no loophole or escape clause. The same Crouch who is currently mind controlled into helping Voldemort's plan to abduct Harry using the tournament. There might well have been a way out but the only person asked was working for the man who had Harry entered in the first place.
    • That is a good theory. After all, Ludo Bagman knows that Bartemius Crouch would have studied all the Tournament rules exactly for this situation, which the others in the room might not have done. If Crouch says that there was no way out for Harry, then no one else would have looked into it.
  • Draco's "bouncing ferret" stage seems really over the top in a number of ways... but then I realized that Crouch Jr. chose an action that was in character both for himself and for Moody. Moody, being an ex-Auror, may have had (or assumed to have had) a scrap or two with Lucius Malfoy some years back. It might have been Lucius that hexed Moody in the back once, which would make sense as to why Moody would react so strongly to seeing his son attempt the same thing. As for Crouch, Jr.... well, he's probably pissed that Lucius Malfoy got to sit pretty for all those years while he himself was imprisoned either in Azkaban or in his own home. Not to mention he likely saw Draco Malfoy at the QWC and is jealous that Draco gets all the fatherly love and attention (however strangely Lucius shows it) that he's wanted his entire life.

    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 
  • I didn't care much for Nymphadora Tonks, but then I realized she was Rowling's answer to Mary Sues! Think about it! Her hair and eye color literally changes according to her mood, she ends up with one of the most wanted characters in the series, and in the end, she becomes a martyr! - KT 4
    • Ironically, she's often accused of being a Mary Sue largely because she intruded on one of the biggest Slashfic ships in the series (Lupin/Sirius). - Jonn
    • Honestly, she's clumsy as all hell, shown to be likable and capable but not brilliant, and is barely present for most of the books. I don't see the Mary Sue-dom.
      • It's actually fairly common for Mary Sues to be clumsy - usually endearingly so. Also, like Tonks, Potter Sues frequently wear Muggle clothing. Basically, Tonks is what a character who would be a Mary Sue in the hands of a n00b writer looks like in the hands of a competent writer.
    • I don't recall it ever being said that Tonks's hair and eye color changed with her mood, aside from her hair turning red once, which was SPECIFICALLY in the film version, and therefore isn't exactly canon. And I don't remember her eyes ever changing in either version.
      • Although, given that she can turn her nose into a pig's snout, changing her eye color doesn't seem all that unlikely. And it's worth noting that the H Pwiki lists her and her son's eye color as "able to be changed at will."
  • I had a moment of Fridge Brilliance while reading the Crowning Moments of Awesome page about Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. It was basically around the part where I realized how the entire school basically rallied against Umbridge... then I realized, by rallying against Umbridge, they were rallying against the Ministry. If Umbridge hadn't been the DADA teacher, there would have been no reason for Dumbledore's Army to form. Dumbledore's Army was kind of its own family, and Umbridge helped form an allegiance between the entire student body and the teachers, as well as the ghosts. Without the family of DA or the entire schoolwide allegiance already established, nobody besides a few teachers would have been so willing to take up arms against Voldemort, both at the Battle of the Astronomy Tower, or the Second Wizarding War. Harry's support system would have been severely diminished, especially at the end of the seventh book. Harry would probably have not so eagerly led a group in rebellion, if it hadn't been for Dumbledore's Army. Basically, the whole reason anything in the sixth or seventh book worked at all, not to mention with as relatively few casualties as there were, was because of Umbridge, and her Ripple Effect over the entire school in the fifth book. Jo, you are one clever bastard. katzgoboo
  • I just realized the Brilliance in making the character Tonks so clumsy. Being a Metamorphmagus, her center of gravity must be constantly changing as she changes shapes, thus leaving her continuously unable to find her balance. -Transfan33
  • I realized that there was more to Harry's angst in Order of the Pheonix than just being a broody teenager. In Deathly Hallows, while taking turns wearing the locket Horcrux, whoever is wearing it feels miserable, and their situation seems even worse than it is (and it's pretty bad to begin with). Near the end of Deathly Hallows, we learn that part of Voldemort's soul is attached to Harry's soul. So imagine having the locket Horcrux inside you at all times with no way to remove it. And this was coupled with the fact that Voldemort had come back to full power, which strengthened the connection between his soul and the piece of it in Harry. So it wasn't just Harry wangsting and whining, it was being so close to Voldemort that it made everything seem worse to him. This also opens up more Fridge Brilliance about why Harry was more upset over Cedric's death than Sirius's. Because of Harry's connection with Voldemort, it made Cedric's death more tragic to him than to anyone else, except probably Cho. Harry was very upset after Sirius died at the end of Order of the Phoenix, but didn't seem to be afterwards. Voldemort started using Occlumency against Harry sometime between the fifth and sixth books. When Harry took off the locket in Deathly Hallows, he immediately felt much less miserable. After being directly connected to Voldemort's soul for an entire year, having Voldemort blocking himself from it was enough of a relief that he was able to get over Sirius's death faster than he could have with Cedric's. -Giga Metroid 99
  • The reason for Harry's unusual Jerkass behaviour this whole year? Say it with me- Harry is having PTSD from seeing Cedric get killed!
    • Hell, the entire third task was nightmare fuel to begin with. And then, just when he thinks it's all over, he gets transported to a graveyard, watches somebody die in front of him for technically the second time (because the fact that he saw his mother killed in front of him as a baby has been coming back vaguely in his dreams for years), and then meets a bunch of dudes in foreboding-looking black cloaks, sees baby!Voldemort (which caused this troper nightmares as a movie viewer, honestly), gets stabbed, and then sees Voldemort emerge from a flaming cauldron in the flesh for the first time. That's fuel for some hardcore PTSD right there. Oh, and the fact a part of Voldemort's soul has revived within him after lying dormant for 14 years doesn't help, either. It's a bit like witnessing the horrors of war and then being possessed by the devil right afterward.
  • When Snape reads Harry's mind during an occlumency lesson, he looks back to the time when Harry was an infant and Voldemort is attacking their house. Why? Snape wanted to see the last time Lily, the woman he loved, was alive! —synthetique
  • At the end of the book, Harry is in Dumbledore's office and yells that "People don't like being locked up!" in reference to Sirius. But at his words, Dumbledore immediately shows his first sign of emotion: "Dumbledore closed his eyes and buried his face in his longfingered hands." Why did he react so strongly? He was thinking of his younger sister, Arianna, who we learn in Deathly Hallows spent her life locked up. At this point, now two of the people Dumbledore tried to keep locked up for their own good had died because of him.synthetique
    • And also as we learned in the seventh book, Grindlewald, who Dumbledore once loved and almost turned evil for, was locked up his whole life for his crimes
    • And what about Harry himself? He was left with the Dursley's, by Dumbledore, presumably for his own good as well. For the bulk of his time with them, he was kept in the cupboard under the stairs, as well as being briefly locked up by Vernon in the second book.
    • Before that, Dumbledore mentions how indifference is worse than outright hatred, referring to how Sirius treated Kreacker... and also referring to how he himself treated his family. Both of these istances end badly.
  • In the movie, Harry sarcastically comments to Dudley, "Five against one, very brave," in reference to Dudley and his friends beating up a ten-year-old. Later, not counting Harry and the Order members who arrive, it's five against one, and yes, it truly is very brave. Instead of five or six large teenagers picking on a small kid, it's one large man doing far worse than trying to beat up five teenagers, and the teenagers try to fight back, not just out of self-preservation but to help the one singled out.
  • Order of the Phoenix came out three years after Goblet of Fire — the longest gap between any of the two books, which was especially frustrating because Goblet of Fire ended on a cliffhanger. In the first few chapters of Order of the Phoenix, Harry spends a lot of time angsting about being kept in the dark and not knowing what's going on in the wizarding world. This wasn't just to set up Harry as a character that was going to do a lot of angsting, but a way for JK to acknowledge the audience's frustration — "Yes, I know, writing this did take longer than expected, and yes, I'm sorry, and see? Harry is frustrated too!"
  • Regulus Black's name hints at his redeeming actions directly before his death. Regulus is a star in the constellation Leo, the lion. Specifically, it's a red star that represents the lion's heart. HE HAS A LION'S HEART.
    • It gets even better: what House does that represent?
      • "I face death in the hope that when you meet your match, you will be mortal once more." Regulus sacrificed himself hoping, not knowing that it would work. Unlike Dumbledore, he probably wasn't even reasonably sure. That takes a whole new brand of Brass Balls.
  • Remember that spell that James used to humiliate Snape? Well, in "Half-Blood Prince", this very spell is in the Half-Blood Prince's text book as one of the jinxes that the Prince had invented. And, since Snape is the Half-Blood Prince, James must've learned it because Snape had been casting this spell himself! Hell, he'd most likely have used it on James himself. Suddenly, the whole incident doesn't seem quite as unprovoked as Harry had believed.
    • I don't think this is correct. I'm not 100% positive, but I'm pretty sure Levicorpus can also be used on objects and there are other ways to learn a spell than having it used on you. As James is said to often bully Snape I find it more likely he stole Snape's textbook for a short while and learned the spells he liked.
      • There already is a spell like that to be used on objects, Wingardium Leviosa. Levicorpus is Wingardium Leviosa for people.
      • Also, if you pay attention to the spell, it basically says "lift body", which would make sense. Also it would make sense that james may have taken the textbook, because it does have very handy notes written on it by snape itself for potions. Presumably, since it's confirmed to be dark arts, James would still have been provoked by snape because it shows deliberate dark arts in the book, made by him. No matter what else, anybody would find it worrying to have a lethal dark arts spell written down.
    • The incident was completely unprovoked but the rivalry was very two-sided, even considering that it appeared to regularly be the case of four on one (well, mostly two since Pettigrew was pathetic and Remus uninterested).
    • Another note on that scene: Snape casts something at James that barely misses and leaves a bloody gash on him. In the next book we learn exactly what that spell (Sectumsempra) was supposed to do, and it's not pretty.
    • When Harry brings the incident up with Lupin, he mentions that the spell was a bit of a fad at Hogwarts when they were there. James was using it not knowing that Snape had invented it. Snape probably quite enjoyed that a spell he had invented was popular among his classmates, since he himself was not. Having it turned on him was probably extra humiliating, leading to him overcompensating in front of his friends (who may or may not have known that it was his spell) and calling Lily a mudblood. — Bad Wolf 21
  • When Umbridge orders Snape to give her more Truth Serum (after finishing it), Snape responds that it will take a month before he can make more, and then says "Unless you wish to poison him - and I assure you I would have the greatest sympathy if you did - I cannot help you.". This is not only a jab at Harry, but it could be taken as a jab to Umbridge herself: "If you harm him, even I'll be sorry for you after what the entire Order will do to you."
  • Why are a celebrity divorce and a water-skiing budgie considered important enough to be on the evening news programme that the Durseleys are watching? Because it's Silly Season.
  • Why didn't Hermione achieve 100% in Defense Against the Dark Arts? Even given that she isn't the greatest magical fighter in the books, the subject is mainly theoretical, especially so during Umbridge's year. Could it be that she let Harry beat her in this subject because she thought he deserved it? If so, given her competetiveness, it was a pretty significant gift for her to give.
    • She was humiliated that she didn't get a perfect lineup. By its nature, DADA has to be largely practical. You discover or create a new charm or spell to deal with dementors or boggarts or other dark creatures in, guess where, charms or transfiguration. DADA is about practical application of your knowledge- and that's where Harry effortlessly shines, and Hermione stalls out. Look at the one 'competent' DADA test, by Lupin in third year, which is an obstacle course of minor dark creatures. She can get by everything but the boggart- which is the only one where studying everything about it won't help you very much when actually dealing with it.
      • Obviously calling this depends partly on 1) how you view DADA: is it mainly theoretical or largely practical? To a large degree, it would seem to depend on the teacher, being mostly practical only during Lupin's year and emphatically theoretical during Umbridge's year. It also depends on 2) what Umbridge's role in the O.W.L.s was. If Umbridge didn't administer or censor the O.W.L. exams, she wouldn't have had any influence beyond how she taught the subject. However, in the film at least she *did* administer the exams, and in film and book both she had almost complete control of Hogwarts by then. As keeping DADA theoretical seems to have been a major point in her programme to "reform" Hogwarts, it makes sense that she would remove any practical elements frn the DADA O.W.L examination.
      • Except that in the book is perfectly stated that Umbridge is NOT who administers the exams and that there ARE practical examinations. There's even a scene where the examinators show up in Hogwarts (and Hermione hilariously freaks out at their mere presence). Later, we can actually see the scene where the practical exams take place, and Harry's examinator, Professor Tofty, is particularly excited about Harry's prowess. Harry even casts his Patronus, which is, let's face it, the opposite of theoretical.
  • In the first book, Harry notes more than once that he sometimes gets the feeling that Snape can read minds. In this book, we find out that Harry is actually completely right about this when Snape is teaching him Occlumency.
  • Why Snape's Worst Memory is left out of the film. The context is different. In the book Harry enters the Pensieve which Snape is using so that Harry won't have access to his private memories. In the film Harry uses the Shield Charm like he does in the book. He doesn't witness Lily in there because Snape had removed the memory and put it in the Pensieve.
  • The significance of Snape and Lily's interaction in his worst memory. He calls her "Mudblood", essentially calling her the wizard variant of the n-word. Lily responds by pointedly calling him "Snivellus". Up until that point, she has been his friend and Snivellus is what people who bully him call him. She's essentially firing back with the worst thing she could think of calling him, wanting to hurt him as much as he has hurt her. That's also her symbolic way of ending their friendship.

    Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 
  • When Harry is in detention for cursing Malfoy, he comments on how Snape seemed to be purposely keeping him longer so he couldn't spend as much time which Ginny. While Harry probably thinks this is just because Snape is mean, it may be deeper than that. Think about it — Harry looks extraordinarily like his father. Ginny, meanwhile, has long red hair. Together they resemble Lily and James as a couple. Snape no doubt notices it, and by keeping Harry from Ginny, it's almost like keeping James from Lily.
  • It seemed at first that Voldemort cursed the position of the DADA teacher purely out of spite (if I can't have it, nobody can). Then, after the evidences of abysmal ineptitude of the general wizarding population was presented (like the Ministry of Magic having to buy hats imbued with a Shield Charm from a prank shop), I suddenly comprehended the strategic magnificence of V's move. He ensured that the DADA classes would become a total mess, no consistent teaching routine would be possible, and before long the school would run out of decent DADA teachers completely, thus dealing a crushing blow to the opposition. - Gess
    • On the subject of the curse; it appears to change in power depending on how powerful Voldemort is. In the decade between his defeat and Harry's first year at Hogwarts, nothing particularly brutal (at least nothing worth mentioning) happens to any of the DADA teachers; they just don't last more than a year. In Book One, Quirrel had returned from a year or more off (thus satisfying the curse), but he came back with Voldemort. When Voldemort got stronger from 'parasiting' Quirrel and drinking Unicorn blood, the curse strengthens, and Quirrel dies. Horribly. Voldemort gets strong again in Chamber of Secrets, and Lockheart gets his mind wiped. In Book Three, Voldemort is not strong again, and Lupin is forced to resign because of a near miss with his werewolfishness. Not because he hurt anyone, or was hurt himself. He just chose to leave. In Goblet of Fire, Voldemort is regaining his strength as Wormtail nurses him back to health; Moody doesn't even get a chance to teach; the imposter (a loyal servant of Voldemort and therefore, in a less literal sense, part of his "strength") ends up getting the Dementor's Kiss after Voldemort comes back to life. In Book Five, Voldemort has regained full power, and Umbridge was terrorized by Centaurs to the point of having PTSD (she could be easily frightened by someone making hoof noises)... and then there's the theory that the centaur's were particularly brutal... In HBP, Voldemort still at full power, Snape is forced to kill the man he considers a father figure, and go off to join Voldemort full time. Next book, he dies (nastily). In Deathly Hallows, Voldemort is still strong, but he's weakened by the loss of Horcruxes, increasing mental instability, and his lack of mastery of the Elder Wand. Hardly the top form he was in when he dueled Dumbledore in Order of the Phoenix. The Death Eater replacement, Amycus Carrow, in Book Seven ends up embarassed in front of the school, tortured by Harry for insulting Mc Gonagall, bound and gagged during the battle for Hogwarts, and returned to Azkaban.
  • I'm surprised no one seems to have picked up on this: throughout the series, characters speculate on why Dumbledore never gives Snape the Defense Against the Dark Arts job. Generally, the idea is that Dumbledore doesn't trust him near the subject. Actually, it's because Dumbledore knew the job was jinxed so that no one would last more than a year, so he put off giving it to Snape to make sure Snape was always around... until there came a time when he knew that Snape would be leaving before the end of the year anyway.
  • It occurred to me that Lily might have been so good at potions (according to Slughorn) because she was friends with Snape. If that's the case, then Slughorn was right about Harry being just like his mother. They both got their potions skills from the Half-Blood Prince.
  • A bit of casting brilliance here - after Bill Weasley gets savaged by Greyback in Half-Blood Prince, he's described as bearing "a distinct resemblance to Mad-Eye Moody." Who plays Bill in the Deathly Hallows films? Domhnall Gleeson, the son of Brendan Gleeson, who plays Mad-Eye! - Bklyn Bruzer
    • Casting Gag to the max - almost to the point where there was no way this wasn't intentional. Presumably, any decent-acting, tall redhead from the British Isles could have played Bill. He doesn't have a whole lot of lines. To add a bit of humor to this, when several of the actors were asked to say their favorite line of the movie series, Domnhall Gleeson's response was, "Mad-Eye's dead."
  • Arthur Weasley is promoted out of the understaffed Misuse of Muggle Artefacts office because war is imminent and it's not a priority. The same thing must have happened in the First Wizarding War - how else could Sirius could keep hold of an illegal flying motorbike?
  • Throughout the first five books, Hermione performs brilliantly at potions, while Harry, failing to pay close enough attention to Snape's instructions, is mediocre at best. In the sixth, he starts making each potion perfectly by following the Prince's advice, which is what he should have been doing all along!
  • Who is the Half-Blood Prince and why is Lily mentioned in here more than in any other book?... Gotcha. —[1]
  • A comment from my sister helped me grasp Snape's true allegiance much better, instead of just a last minute change (as the author herself was unsure). In this book, Snape is about to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore is left begging, "Severus please...". At first it seems like he's weakly shocked at betrayal by Snape. Actually, it's because he's begging Snape to kill him. Because Snape is putting Dumbledore out of his misery, it doesn't harm his soul. That's why he spent the night searching for him.- blueflame724
    • I reasoned this as well. However, I don't know where you get the idea that Rowling was unsure of it, considering she had the idea since the beginning (as someone mentioned, she told Alan Rickman about Snape's true allegiance before the movies began filming).
  • I put this in the WMG section, but it deserves as much to be over here (or maybe in Fridge Horror...if you think so, please move it). Blaise Zabini. First off, he doesn't exactly come out of nowhere - he's mentioned in passing in Book 1 because he was (alphabetically) the last new student in Harry's year. Of course, from then, the Fandom tried to make a character out of him...or "her" in some fanfics. Then we finally find out (partially through the movie) that he's indeed a Black male. He gets into the Slug Club because his mother is famous. She married seven times, each time to a wealthy husband. Each husband died mysteriously, leaving Blaise and his mother with all the wealth. Of course, the implications there are obvious. Zabini's mom is a "Black widow." The black widow, of course, is a spider that's known for being very poisonous, first off, and second, killing her mates - and the term has been used for a woman who has killed a succession of husbands or boyfriends. The fact that Zabini's mom (more than likely) literally is a Black widow (in terms of race) just makes this even more brilliant.
    • Made even more evident by Blaise Zabini's name. Zabini is an Italian surname, implying that the father was Italian, the vast majority of which are whites. Blaise is a French name, pointing to his mother (or her family) being from a former French colony with a Black population. What are they doing in Britain, then? The Italians and possibly someone else realized she was a black widow, and she had to run to not be swatted...
  • The Death Eater attack of the Burrow put in the film seems pointless but earlier Ron told Harry his mother had not wanted Ron and Ginny to return to Hogwarts because it wasn't safe anymore and to stay home. The attack on the Burrow during Christmas made it clear that nowhere was safe from Voldemort and his followers, not Hogwarts and not even people's homes.-Tapol
  • Rewatching the eighth movie, I just thought of something. When Dumbledore was trying to convince Draco to give up, not kill him, and go into hiding, might he have been trying to course-correct. He might have known Draco disarming him would screw up his plans to break the power of the Elder Wand and hope to win it back by defeating Draco, by convincing him to surrender so the original plan, having Snape kill him without ownership of the Wand passing from him. Brilliant.
    • Talking Draco down isn't really the same as defeating him, though.
    • Moreover, Dumbledore knows that if Draco kills him and rejoins the Death Eaters, it'd only be a matter of time until Voldemort murders Draco to claim the Elder Wand, just as he eventually does murder Snape. He's trying to save Draco's life as well as his soul.
  • Snape dissing Tonks's Patronus (which he called "weak") is a two-pronged barb, when you think about it. On the face of it, it comes across as implying that Lupin is weak, because her new Patronus is wolf-like to demonstrate her feelings for him. But if you think back to how Patronuses are conjured up (happy thoughts and memories), it could also be taken as more of a warning than an insult: Snape's way of saying that Tonks's affection for Lupin, with which she calls the Patronus up, is doomed to disappointment. Considering how, if not for Harry, Lupin might've abandoned her, Snape's cheap shot wasn't entirely off the mark, either! How like Snape, to express a rather shrewd insight into others' limitations by talking multi-layered smack about them.
    • Snape calls Tonks' patronus weak because he sees himself as weak. Tonks' patronus changed due to her love of Remus. Snape's patronus changed because of his love for Lily. Snape dissing Tonks' patronus change is only dissing himself.
  • This occurred to me after reading the Tranquil Fury page: Snape has been calm throughout the book series, and even angry Snape doesn't raise his voice higher than normal volume. However, at the end of HBP, Snape is shouting at Harry while escaping with the death eaters. With the reveal that Snape has been a double agent all along in mind, it hit me: Snape is acting so the death eaters don't question his leaving. It seems to work, though it brings to mind more Fridge Logic: would't the death eaters notice when he never acts like that again for the rest of the series?
    • Snape is shouting because he's outraged that Harry would turn Snapes own spell, that he created, back on him. There's also the fact that he was just forced to kill Dumbledore, who was the only one to know his true allegiance. The Death Eaters were probably too busy burning down a certain someones hut to bother paying attention to Snape.
    • Snape has raised his voice a lot. He screamed to Hermione in the Shrieking Shack and at Harry in the infirmary in the third book, he screamed at Sirius in the fourth book, at Harry again once he finds him in the pensieve, etc. A more likely explanation is that he's genuinely hurt at being called a "coward", considering he's risking his life more than anyone else in the series.
  • When Harry and Dumbledore are visiting memories, Dumbledore knows that Tom Riddle's friends are in the Hog's Head. Why? Because the Barkeep of the Hog's Head is his brother!
    • Dumbledore himself says that he's merely "friendly with the owner of the bar".
  • Having gotten into tarot reading several years after reading the series, this troper was startled upon re-reading HBP. What is the name of the chapter in which Dumbledore dies? The Lightning-Struck Tower. Commonly called The Tower in modern decks, this card is one of the most feared (along with the Death card). It talks about a sudden realization, loss, a Broken Pedestal. And even more so, several decks' illustration for the Tower shows people falling/being thrown out of a tower. All of this happens in the chapter: Dumbledore was killed via an Avada Kedavra that looks suspiciously like a lightning strike, thrown off the Astronomy tower, and this causes the aforementioned feelings in Harry. Also one to the readers as well. Admit it, most of us probably held a Like You Would Really Do It attitude towards Rowling killing off Dumbledore until it hit us in the face. Brr. - annieholmes
    • Not to mention the fact that Trelawney actually drew this card in-story again and again when she tries to do a reading on Dumbledore's fate.
    • And then there's the illustration of the Tower in this deck...
  • Harry becomes a Karma Houdini in the movie version of Half-Blood Prince (he runs off before Snape can punish him for using Sectumsempra on Draco). Why? Because it changes his motivation for getting rid of the Half-Blood Prince's book - he's not hiding it because he doesn't want Snape to confiscate it; he's hiding it because he doesn't want anyone (not even himself) to be tempted by the dark magic in the book.
  • Remember how Ron has always craved attention and admiration? Well, in this book/movie he gets what he it: In the form of the lovestruck girl, Lavender Brown. Then, he gets the hint of how downright annoying it can be to always get attention. In a way, Lavender was a physical aesop on the lesson "be careful what you wish for".
  • This might be obvious, but I just realized it upon rewatching the film; after Harry takes the luck potion to get the memory from Slughorn, he is guided in a roundabout and unpredictable path to get his goal. It always struck me as odd though that he bumps Ginny Weasley on his way through the portrait hole under his invisibility cloak. Why would he, when he has perfect luck to prevent it? But then it occurred to me just now while watching the film...that bump helped break Ginny and Dean Thomas up, a hidden desire of Harry's. Of COURSE he bumped her, he wanted them to break up, and the luck potion made it happen.
  • After Harry learns it was Snape who relayed the prophecy to Voldemort, Harry asks Dumbledore how he can be sure a talented Occlumens like Snape is on the right side. Dumbledore considers for a moment before replying that he trusts Snape completely. Dumbledore wasn't reconsidering whether he trusts Snape he does but whether explaining why he does in order to reassure Harry would be worth breaking his word to Snape never to reveal certain facts.
  • Hermione outright says that she was going to ask Ron to Slughorn's Christmas Party. This is in contrast to Book 4 where she waited around hoping Ron would ask her. She's likely copped on to how clueless he is by now.

    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows 
  • Although I've always loved Deathly Hallows, no matter how many times I read it in the months after it came out, I never understood all the convoluted, complicated explanations of Harry's and Voldemort's connection — why Voldemort had to kill him for Dumbledore's plan to work, how Harry survived his "death" in the forest, could only Harry kill Voldemort only because of the prophecy, and was it entirely a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy... after nearly frying my brain trying to understand, I decided to give up, and accept "Harry came Back from the Dead and A Wizard Did It" without letting it detract from my enjoyment of the rest of the series. Upon reading Book 7 for the first time in a few years, I understood it all with no effort! What had changed in the interim? I had watched Gargoyles! I read Dumbledore's explanation of how Voldemort using Harry's blood to resurrect himself linked Harry to him in such a way so that Harry would live because Voldemort lived as if for the first time, only this time, I thought, "Just like Demona and MacBeth!" Furthermore, I could now see that Harry's "death" was just like all the times Demona or MacBeth had been "killed temporarily." Someone only able to die if killed by a certain person? Nothing weird about that anymore. It's enough to make me wonder if J. K. Rowling ever watched that show... ~Lale
    • Harry couldn't have lost a part of his soul, because only the most destructive and evil of acts (killing another person) splits your soul in half. When did Harry find time to kill someone? He didn't, so therefore his soul was still intact. The blood wasn't a symbol of Harry's soul, it was the power in the blood itself the ol' Voldy was after (Lily's protection). - NimbleJack3
      • What the truth was is this: There were several protecting events for harry on that death. 1) His mother's protection, weakening the dark lord's ability to hurt Harry because it lived in him, so while he could go around killing other people without problem, aiming it at Harry would cause it to weaken. 2) Harry's status as a horcrux means he has 2 souls. Harry's soul, and the fragment of vol's soul. 3) vol knew none of this at all. The result? A killing class curse would be weakened inside of vol for pointing it at harry, thus instead of killing it like it would at full power, it took away a smaller target from harry, removing the bit of soul. Weakened curse, another target, he survives the curse because it never targeted him.
      • In other words: think about how the Killing Curse really works. We know that it leaves its victims completely unmarked -for instance, the Riddle family appeared to be in perfect health (apart from being dead) when examined by doctors. So the way "Avada Kedavra" kills people is simply by causing their soul to depart from their body. It worked perfectly on Harry- it just targeted Voldemort's soul instead of his (which was protected by Lily's blessing).
      • Also it's been stated by Jo that the reason Harry's scar hurts is because it's the piece of Voldemort's soul attempting to reunite with Voldemort whenever it senses Voldemort getting worked up. The reason Harry was pretty much in limbo was because the piece of Voldemort's soul jumped in front of his own and acted as a shield. And the reason Harry's scar doesn't hurt at first is because Voldemort is calm. It's not until he casts the killing curse that Harry can feel it.

  • I've realized that Ginny is the most logical person for Harry to marry. A somewhat important subplot in the books is Harry's relationship with the Weasleys, to the point where they might as while be his family. If Harry had married somebody else, he wouldn't be part of the Weasely family anymore, and that connection would be lost. -Redtutel
    • Speaking of them being a family, Harry eventually reassures Ron that Hermione is like a sister to him. It makes perfect sense that Hermione, an only child, and Harry, who'd seen only the worst side of having siblings from Dudley, would bond with one another as surrogate sibs ... and it makes equal sense that Ron, who's got more siblings than he can stand sometimes, would completely miss seeing their mutual desire for a brother/sister connection until it's pointed out to him.
    • The books are - with a few brief exceptions - written in a limited third-person point of view from Harry's perspective. It makes sense that she wasn't developed as a romantic interest until Harry began to notice her. She's hardly discussed in the first four books, because he hardly notices her until befriending her in the fifth. -Redseven
      • Harry's still Ron's best friend and they're not going to kick him out of the family just because he didn't marry Ginny.
      • Especially considering that he saved her life once and later helped save Arthur's life as well.
  • You have to admire Rowling's strategy when it comes to explaining Harry's rebirth - she pulls it off by creating a situation that probably had never, ever happened before in the history of wizardkind. Nobody could possibly know what would happen when one human being first made five Horcruxes (which no one had ever done before) and THEN made another human being a human Horcrux (which had never happened before) and THEN tried and failed to kill that human Horcrux (with a curse that had never failed to be fatal before) and THEN used that human Horcrux's blood in a resurrection spell, and THEN tried to kill that human Horcrux again with that same spell, and failed again, and THEN joined with that human Horcrux through a paired-wand bond, and THEN tried to kill that human Horcrux a third time, with the same spell, while that human Horcrux was in possession (theoretically at least) of all three of the Deathly Hallows. I mean, you couldn't do a spell like that on purpose if you tried. It had to be a wholly unique event.
    • You got your order wrong, and there are more things. The order would be first making 5 Horcruxes, THEN offering a woman to spare her if she allowed him to kill her child (which he had never done before), THEN killing that woman (placing Harry under the blood protection), THEN trying to kill that child with a curse that had never failed before, THEN having his soul spontaneously split when the spell rebounded, THEN the part of the soul that split away taking refuge into the nearest living being (Harry), THEN the still free soul possessing another man and fighting with the living vessel and being defeated, THEN using the human Horcrux's blood in a resurrection ritual, THEN trying to kill the human Horcrux again with the same spell that failed before, THEN joined with that human Horcrux through a paired-wand bond in which he was determined to be the weaker one, THEN trying to kill that human Horcrux a third time, THEN possessing him, THEN using another person's wand to try to avoid the paired-wand bond and failing as the other person's wand breaks, THEN trying to kill that human Horcrux as he attempts to do a Heroic Sacrifice to save his friends, THEN having that human Horcrux survive AGAIN, and finally trying to kill him AGAIN by using a wand that has been said many times to be unable to fight against its owner. All in all, a VERY long chain of events that are very unlikely to be repeated in the same form ever again.
      • To spare everyone another even longer paragraph, I'll add in that Voldy didn't only take the blood of a horcrux and someone destined to be his equal: he took in Lily's protection. Wordof God says that Lily's goodness was in Voldy's veins, and that's how he could've repented.
      • Voldemort only being able to repent because of Lily reeks of Unfortunate Implications. If he is not able to change his ways on his own and is forced to be evil without "Lily's goodness" then I have to question how culpable for his actions he is.
      • I think the idea is that Voldemort, through his own actions, has damaged his soul to the point that he became literally incapable of performing the actions needed to heal it. But when he takes in "Lily's Goodness" it restored his potential to do so. Basically, he had passed a magically enforced Moral Event Horizon (which creates some fridge brilliance of its own, creating so many literally put him beyond any chance at redemption) and ignored the unique opportunity to escape from it.
    • Um, Quirrell, anybody? While the whole "Harry kills Quirrell" is far more ambiguous in the book than it is in the movie, it is pretty much evident that Quirrell died pretty much directly because of Harry. Voldemort leaving just sealed the deal. While it is usually claimed that such a split only occurs through murder (which Harry's killing/moral wounding of Quirrell is most assuredly not), who is to say that is true? Turtler.
      • Actually, Dumbledore does explain that Snape killing him won't harm Snape's soul because Snape is actually putting Dumbledore out of his misery by mercy-killing him. So, there is at least one instance where simply killing someone is different from "murdering" them. Though, if the intent is the catalyst, what about when Harry uses the Cruciatus Curse on Bellatrix Lestrange? He certainly intended to torture and possibly kill her, though he lacked the purity (admittedly, pure evil) of mind to do so.
      • It is not just murder, but cold-blooded murder, as in killing someone who either can't defend him/herself from you or who is weaker than you. What Harry was doing was attempting to defend himself from Quirrell, and the book makes it clear that what Harry was doing to Quirrell was just burning his skin. The one who killed Quirrell was Voldemort when he left his body. The example about Dumbledore being mercy-killed by Snape is a good one. And what Harry intended to do to Bellatrix Lestrange was to make her suffer like he was suffering, but, as he discovered, righteous anger isn't enough.
  • I just got the rest of the symbolism of the wands. Thinking about the thestral tail hair in the Elder Wand. I got that Voldemort's wand was made of Yew, the whole "death tree symbolism", but his and Harry's wands were connected by the same phoenix, the bird of rebirth - the whole "horcruxes of each other" thing, with the core being the same phoenix and all - connected, and Harry's wand was made of Holly, connected to rebirth in several mythologies, including Christianity, to mirror Voldemort's wand. Because even though they both come back, Harry's the one who ultimately lives. I hadn't realized that it was so intricately connected like that until just now. -JET73L
    • Going into that a little more, this troper realized the significance between the shared phoenix core: phoenix are famous for their immortality and ability to always be reborn. According to Harry and Rowling herself, Voldemort always had the chance to feel remorse for what he did and be reborn in a manner of speaking. He considered that a stupid idea, though, and never seriously considered it, just like he considered his wand useless and discarded it. Harry's love for his holly wand and rebirth at the end of DH, on the other hand, showed his willingness to change and acceptance that there were things in the world he couldn't control or understand. The fact that both phoenix tails came from Fawkes (Dumbledore's pet) is also symbolic of how Riddle and Harry both saw Hogwarts as their true home! — (Not JET73L. Original poster, please sign.)
    • Rowling definitely did her research when it came to wands: Lily Potter's wand was made of willow, which is traditionally associated with healing, protection and love. Her last act on Earth was to give her son the protection of her love. Also Elder (sometimes known as witchwood) is linked magically to protection, often against lightning strike, but bad luck will fall on anyone who uses it without permission. In other words, Voldemort's use of a wand that wasn't strictly his brought about his death via a certain young man with a lightning scar... - Aelinuial
  • Sure, it was easy enough to accept that Snape hated Neville because he was a Gryffindor, he was incompetent, and he was available, but it wasn't until some time after reading Deathly Hallows that I figured out that his particular hatred for Neville was due to his belief that if Neville had been the Chosen One named in the prophecy - that if Voldemort had decided to attack the Longbottoms instead of the Potters - Lily would still be alive. - knave
  • After reading the seventh book, I understood Snape's hatred for Harry in a different light. Not only did Harry have his mother's eyes and look like his father (reinforcing the bond they had and the fact that Snape would never see Lily again), but he also might have been Snape's son in a different world. Hard to be friends with a kid like that. —Serene Shadow
  • If you read "The Prince's Tale" with the mindset of "Snape views Dumbledore as a father figure" (which, considering Snape's real father, is not that far-fetched of an assumption), it adds a whole new dimension to Snape's resentment of Harry: Snape is very much the "Well Done, Son" Guy, constantly putting his life on the line for Dumbledore and doing everything he asks, which condemns him to a life of being hated by the entire Wizarding World when he kills Dumbledore, while Harry (in Snape's mind) will do much of the same and be worshipped by the Wizarding World, because everyone wants to see Voldemort killed. (Unfortunately, this makes Dumbledore seem pretty cold and even more manipulative than he already is, because it reads as though he deliberately took advantage of Snape's desperation for approval by a father-figure and tormented him with it.)
  • One that occurred to me involving Snape is that given that both are Muggle-borns and teen geniuses, Snape's nasty treatment of Hermione might not be just because he's a jerkass, but also because she reminds him of Lily, and he's probably angered by her friendship with Harry (who, of course, reminds him of James Potter). - Jordan
  • This one occured to me after re-reading the seventh book. Take a good look at the prophecy lines "marked as his equal" and "has power he knows not". First, consider that Harry was a Horcrux, which meant he couldn't kill Voldemort without dying first, whereas Voldemort clearly had no such restriction... making them not necessarily equals. Secondly, due to Voldemort's obsessive belief that Harry was the chosen one, it meant that he disregarded most everyone else's abilities as irrelevant. Now look at Neville, who 1) would be free to defeat Voldemort without dying, and 2) clearly not deemed as important to Voldemort, would possess abilities which Voldemort did not know what they were. In short, up until the very end, it was still up in the air exactly whom the prophecy applied to. - Totemic Hero
    • Except Harry's scar, the attack by Voldemort, is what marked Harry as his equal. Also, Harry survived the killing curse because Voldemort was protecting Harry with his mother's blood, just as Harry was protecting Voldemort as a Horcrux. The whole reason Dumbledore wanted Harry to sacrifice himself was because the first one to "die" would retain their protection, while the "survivor" lost theirs. ~Nick Falcon
  • In Prisoner of Azkaban (I think that was it), Professor Trelawney is wary of sitting at the Christmas dinner table, as it would mean that there were thirteen people there, and when thirteen sit at a table, the first to rise would be the first to die. This is played for laughs when Harry and Ron get up at the same time (although, come to think of it, Harry did die first), but in Deathly Hallows, there are thirteen people sitting down mourning Moody's death. Lupin rises first to offer to locate the body. Lupin is killed at the Battle of Hogwarts, and is the first of the thirteen to die.
  • JUST came to this thought after rereading Deathly Hallows. (being put in spoilers just in case.) In the epilogue, Harry's son is worried that he'll be in Slytherin. His name is Albus Severus Potter, making his initials A.S.P. Therefore, it would actually be quite appropriate for him to be in Slytherin. Stealth Pun?
    • As noted by others, an asp is a kind of snake. A.S.P could also stand for A Slytherin Potter.
    • One more thing about Al's name: which one of Harry's kids is named after Severus Snape? The one with Lily's Eyes!
  • Also regarding Albus Severus and his initials... being Harry's kid, he might be a Parseltongue.
    • No, Harry was only a Parseltongue due to the fragment of Voldemort's soul attached to his. I seem to recall something about Harry having lost the ability after that fragment was destroyed.
      • Yes, that was Word of God, although I can't remember where she said it... An interview somewhere.
  • This one only took a chapter or two to hit me (if that), but it's still the same type of hidden bonus justification. Snape's last words are "look at me", directed at Harry. He wants the last thing he sees to be Lily's eyes. *sniffle*
    • That was Fridge Horror for me. Yes, I saw it as moving at first, but then I remembered that Snape is staring lovingly into the teenaged son of his crush. He's staring at Harry as he would stare at Lilly. Ew...
    • My friend helped me realize this one AND took it a step further: Not only is he staring into "her" eyes...in his mind her eyes are all he needs to be with her. He's dying, finally happy, in the arms of the only woman he ever loved. Double *sniffle*...
    • This is even quite explicit in the movie version, wherein Snape's dialogue has been extended by one sentence: "You have the eyes of your mother."
    • There's another way to interpret this: when I read it in the book, the intonation in my head was different to that in the movie. It was more like he was asking Harry to really look at/into "him", as in finally see his true intentions and secrets, by seeing his memories. The movie clears up the ambiguity, but I like that it can be read both ways.
    • Best way of all to interpret it could be both: he wanted Harry to see the truth of what he'd been trying to achieve, so he could die while looking into Lily's eyes and seeing forgiveness in them.
  • In the Deathly Hallows film (part one), I was shocked at the scene with Ron and the Horcrux. It was so incredibly freaky and I-can't-even-imagine for Ron. I was wondering why Harry had it so (comparatively) easy in the second book. Then I realized. Harry was a Horcrux. Even Riddle, as a memory, somehow knew that Harry was bad news, and tried to kill him, but he still recognized him as a fellow Horcrux, so he didn't try too terribly hard. Ron? Fair game. -mermaidgirl45
    • Take into consideration when in Voldemort's life both of those Horcruxes were made. The diary was his first horcrux, back when he was - while still evil, not as irrevocably villainous as he was when he made the locket. Thus, while Memory-Tom tried to kill Harry, he wasn't as moral-less as he was when he made the locket a horcrux. Ron's experience was so much worse because Voldemort had become so much worse and was more willing to pull out all the stops, so to speak. -Andi Nightshade
      • Also, Ron had been wearing the locket on and off for months. This was the equivalent of what Ginny did in CoS. So the locket could have tried to possess him, like the diary did to Ginny. Diary Riddle didn't try to Mind Rape Harry, because it hadn't actually had the chance to get a proper look into his mind/soul. It only knew enough about him to know that he'd try to save Ginny... and he was probably relatively sure about that from what Ginny would have said already.
      • He "didn't try too terribly hard" to kill Harry? He set a freaking basilisk on him and the only reason Harry wasn't killed was because a phoenix showed up and Riddle had forgotten that they could heal. Also, the locket tried to drown Harry when he went into the water with it. Harry being a Horcrux doesn't seem to have afforded him any preferential treatment.
      • It woulden't have tried to posses anybody, because they didn't care about the thing, they hated it, but as it was so close, it would have been able to read the soul. Also, it shows what type of manipulation Tom favored. the diary liked cunning and false kindness, being people's "freinds" so they would do what he wants. Once he gets what he wants? Doesn't care a twitch about them at all, sending a basalik at harry after he had gotten into the chamber. Locket Tom? Horrible and soul breaking, looking to destroy all positivity a person has and destroy their will to fight.
  • I realized something about Deathly Hallows and its long stretches of the protagonists camping out while on the run. Rowling likes to borrow from somewhat obscure English popular fiction (such as the school story), and it occurred to me that this kind of setting/plot is a lot like The 39 Steps and Rogue Male - same idea of a sinister force threatening England in a Day of the Jackboot way and camping while on the run.-Jordan
  • In Deathly Hallows, did anyone else catch the subtlety of the exact moment that Harry reveals himself to be alive in the Great Hall toward the end of the battle? It was right as Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix. Then Voldemort stopped fighting McGonagall, Kingsley, and Slughorn and turned toward Molly. Of all the friends he had fighting in the battle, why stop the battle to help Molly? Consider Order of the Phoenix, where Molly tells Sirius that Harry is "as good as" a son to her. When Harry sees Molly's boggart, it is flashing through images of her dead sons... and Harry is included. And, finally, in the beginning of Deathly Hallows, the gift of the watch. Because he was powerless to do so seventeen years ago, Harry is protecting the only mother he has ever known. - Spitfire71
  • Unmarked Deathly Hallows Spoilers: In the seventh book, there comes a time when Voldemort is calling for Harry to be given up, and then no one will get hurt. Pansy steps up to say Harry should be given to Voldemort, and not one of the Slytherins stands against her. Now, some people see this as a DMoS for Jo, and she could have shown that Slytherin's aren't all evil and had some stand up for Harry, etc. But — how many of the Slytherins knew where their parents were? Their family members? Their loved ones? How many Slytherins had people they cared for with Voldemort, and potentially in danger if they helped the 'good guys'? It's actually really sad for them, because they don't necessarily know if it's safe for their families if they decide to step up for Harry, so they don't, whereas the other houses don't have that same stigma attached! /End Spoilers -Loracarol
    • However, Jo has said that some Slytherins came back, which is a fridge moment in and of itself. The two houses that had the most people stay were Gryffindor (duh, loyalty and bravery) and Hufflepuff (loyalty and hard work). That leaves Slytherin and Ravenclaw — the house of the cunning and the intelligent, respectively. The Slytherins and Ravenclaws were being disloyal, but they were smart enough to realize that there was no way that Hogwarts students and the tiny Order of the Phoenix fighters could defeat Voldemort, who had taken over England at that point. Some, if not all, of those students came back with Slughorn at the end of the battle! —AMA
      • Why she couldn't have added a sentence to make that explicit, I don't know. Pity really. At least Slughorn was there.
  • We find out in the epilogue of Deathly Hallows that Neville became the herbology professor at Hogwarts. However, Word of God stated that he served briefly as an auror. Although he proved in the books to be adept at both herbology and auror-ing, I thought this was a bit of a strange career change to make. Then I realized it would make perfect sense if he ever found out his wife Hannah was pregnant — Neville was probably worried about being in such a high-risk profession, not out of fear for his own safety, but because he didn't want his kids to grow up without a father the way he had to.
    • And a better thing to do when planning for a family is to either spend months away from them teaching or have them live in the school?
      • Preferable to dying? Sure. Especially when it's shown that all one has to do in order to be able to Apparate is to get outside the borders of the Hogwarts grounds. Word of God said that Neville and Hannah live above the Leaky Cauldron in London. He could just walk a little bit (maybe into Hogsmeade, which is apparently a short enough trip for the students to walk it when they go) and then Apparate from there. Since he's a professor and she's the landlady of the most well-known inn in Wizarding Britain, it's probably safe to assume they're both fairly early risers.
    • I think a more likely explanation is that Neville was an auror for a time while rounding up all those "leftover" Death Eaters to make sure what happened to him didn't happen to anyone else. Remember, the attack on his parents happened well after Voldemort's defeat, when things had calmed down. He clearly didn't want the same situation to repeat. And then, once things looked fine and he was sure that Voldemort fans were not around anymore, he went back to the one thing he enjoyed the most: Herbology.
  • In Deathly Hallows, Ron is disguised as a ministry worker whose wife is a Muggleborn on trial, and as we all know, Ron later marries Hermione, who is a Muggleborn. No wonder it hits him so hard; he's in love with Hermione, and this parallel just brings it right home, reminding him of how much danger she's in just because of her blood status.
    • It's even stronger in the movie.
  • There was that whole stink about Moral Dissonance regarding Dumbledore training Harry to, essentially, kill him because of his Horcrux. But think about it... when did this training start? Book 5. What happened in book 4? The resurrection ritual, where Voldemort took Harry's blood. And there was a gleam of "something like triumph" in Dumbledore's eyes when Harry told him about it. Dumbledore only began training Harry when it became clear that Voldemort had made it impossible to kill Harry without killing himself, and Harry had a chance to "go back" and survive dying!
    • And what if Voldemort hadn't used his blood? Would Dumbledore not have ever trained him? It's likely he just started because before he'd been coddling Harry and putting things off and now Voldemort was back and he knew he was running out of time.
  • Harry's ultimate plan for the Elder Wand was to put it back where it was, and die a natural death undefeated in order to break its power. On the surface, and given Word of God that he becomes an Auror, this seems like a bad plan. But then it hit me — the Elder Wand's ownership passes from one owner to the other upon the first person's defeat or murder. The opponent doesn't even need to know what they'd done, as proven by both Harry and Malfoy doing it by accident. So in the event that Harry is ever defeated, possession would go to that person, and if that person were defeated, it would go to whoever beat him, and so on and so on until the Elder Wand's power is effectively broken by the simple fact that nobody knows who's supposed to be using the thing.
  • So Harry and Voldemort are the opposite of each other, right? Good vs evil, compassion vs heartlessness, life and death. According to TV Tropes's character page, Voldemort is 71 on the final book. What's Harry age on the seventh book? 17!
  • When Dumbledore leaves Harry the sword of Gryffindor in his will, I finally realized that Dumbledore knew Harry couldn't get it from his will, and that Harry would remember that the imbibed sword could kill Horcruxes. By putting it in his will and not letting Harry get to it, he was able to make Harry want to get it by making him believe that it was truly his, and then with the thoughts of getting the sword filling up his mind, he would remember that one fight in the Chamber of Secrets, and then remember that he can kill Horcruxes now. When the trio was lamenting about how they weren't very close to killing the Horcruxes as they were to finding them, they actually were getting closer by aiming to get the sword! OH, DUMBLEDORE! — MahoghanyAntarctican
  • The deaths of Voldemort, Snape, and Harry mirror that of the brothers in "The Tale of the Three Brothers" perfectly, right down to age order: The eldest, Voldemort, died because of power. The second, Snape, died for lost love. And the youngest, Harry, greeted Death like an old friend, willing and ready.
  • Grindelwald's sign / the symbol of the Deathy Hallows being worn by Xenophilius (in a completely innocent gesture that nonetheless greatly offends) directly parallels the way Swastikas are treated by the public today.
    • It also parallels the way fundie nutjobs have treated the entire Harry Potter series since the beginning - there are webpages out there dedicated to "proving" how everything in the books is really an evil Nazi and/or Satanic symbol. In many ways, Xenophilius Lovegood seems like a Take That to anti-Harry Potter and anti-witchcraft conspiracy nuts out there.
    • It gets better. Why don't we look up the year that Dumbledore defeated Grindlewald? Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure it was 1945. Anyone else care to remember what other significant event occurred in that year? If you guess "the defeat of the Nazis", you'd be right!
  • Lily's patronus is a doe. What famous deer do we know who died while her son watched?
    • On the same note; Lily's patronus was a female deer, without the antlers. James' patronus was a deer with antlers; therefor a male deer and the natural couterpart to Lily's deer. Snape's patronus was a deer without antlers; he loved her, symbolized by the same deer Lily had, but he could not be her natural counterpart, as James was.
      • No, Snape's patronus was a doe, the same as Lily's, to signify that the unrequited love he had for her was so strong his patronus matched hers.
  • During the sequence where Harry travels through Snape's memories, there's a scene where Snape asks Dumbledore why he destroyed the ring before calling him, and whether he thought destroying it might stop the curse. Dumbledore just sort of halfheartedly agreed to it. But since when has Dumbledore been mistaken about magic? No, the real reason he waited to call Snape was to destroy the Horcrux! The Sword of Gryffindor can only be used when it is needed or when the wielder has proven themselves worthy of the blade, and there's no evidence that Dumbledore ever proved he had the particular type of bravery needed to wield the sword—remember, while he was certainly brave, he was never the same kind of brave as Harry, Ron, or Neville; he was a genius, never put into a situation beyond his ability to handle, and in situations that were beyond his control, he seemed accepting, rather than defiant. So he had to take the blade because he needed to destroy this source of evil before he died. If he had waited for Snape to stop the curse, the condition of "need" would no longer have applied, and he couldn't have destroyed the Horcrux!
    • Anyone can use the sword of Griffendor, they just have to pick it up and swing it. But it only PRESENTS itself to worthy Griffendors in times of need. Since the sword was already in his office Dumbledore didn't have to worry about this.
      • And destroying the ring didn't actually stop the curse so he didn't need to do it to save his life.
  • The deaths of Lupin and Tonks directly paralleled those of James and Lily - both couples died because of Voldemort; both left a young son that was raised by a maternal relative; both women initially weren't supposed to die (Snape begged Voldemort to let Lily live; Tonks was initially at home with Teddy before she left to fight in the war); both fathers were Marauders. However, Harry was raised by people that did not act as his family, whereas Teddy was raised by people who loved him as one of their own, leaving him happier and safer through his childhood, showing that the loss of his parents did not mean the loss of a family, as it initially did with Harry.
  • I thought that the second film was awesome, but didn't quite get why Voldemort's talk/showdown with Neville had so much emphasis put on it. Then I remembered- Neville could have been the chosen one, so he's facing the man who almost marked him as his equal!
  • During Voldemort's death scene in Deathly Hallows Part 2, the music playing is called Lily's Theme. Why is this important? Because the greatest Dark wizard of all time, in the end, was destroyed because a twenty-two-year-old mother refused to step aside and let her child die. Lily Potter vanquished Voldemort just as much as Harry did.
  • When Ron is given the Deluminator by Dumbledore in his will, one could think at first it is a sort of condescending gesture towards the supposedly least successful member of the Trio. Soon, he finds the Mundane Utility of the artifact, because turning off the lights can be useful in many situations. But then Ron discovers that it can be used to find his friends. Ron supposes that it is because Dumbledore thought he would leave his friends, but Harry sets him right: it's because he knew that he would come back. Then, when you realize that Dumbledore knows very well what can happen when you make a bad choice in anger and are unable to go back on it, and gave Ron the Deluminator to make sure that he didn't find himself in the same situation Dumbledore was so many years ago. - Milarqui
    • Hermione got a book of fairytales and Harry was only able to successfully claim a snitch. They all seemed pretty worthless at first.
  • This occurred to me when rereading the scene where Harry enters Voldemort's camp in the woods to allow himself to be killed. Before Harry reveals himself, Voldemort seems extremely solemn, almost disappointed, that Harry hasn't shown up, whispering "I thought he would come ... I expected him to come". The odd thing is that Voldemort has spent the last three books basically calling Harry a Dirty Coward who lets everyone sacrifice themselves for him, so why would he expect Harry to willingly walk to the slaughter, and why such disappointment? But consider how Voldemort "sees death as a shameful human weakness", something all mere humans must inevitably submit to — exactly the idea that terrifies Voldemort, which he tries to rebel against. Proving himself mightier than death is how Voldemort (described plenty of times as a classic malignant narcissist) makes himself greater than any mere human, proving that he alone stands above human weakness. So if the cowardly little boy also has the strength to resist the call of death and not go humbly to the slaughter, it means Voldemort isn't standing above anyone. His narcissism is deflated and leaves him only as human as anyone else ... Voldemort's worst fear.
    • I think you're looking in the wrong direction. The reason Voldemort keeps calling Harry a coward is the same reason bullies or (internet) trolls insult others: not because they believe it, but to provoke and belittle their victims and, on a more subtle level, to feel better about themselves. Notice how once Voldemort thinks Harry is dead and brings his body to Howgwarts, he claims Harry was killed when trying to run away. There's no way he believed that, he was there to see the opposite happen. Voldemort is simply a liar. Also, and this is important, remember that Voldemort believes caring about others is a weakness. He knows very well that Harry is a fan of sacrificing himself for others, but he doesn't consider that a strenght, that's why he has no problem admitting he's dissapointed in front of his Death Eaters.
  • OK, so Voldemort planned to make his sixth and final horcrux by killing Harry as a baby. But, what object did he bring with him to use? Nagini, who eventually did become the last horcrux, is never indicated to be with him. My personal theory? He was going to make his wand a horcrux, thinking to link its power with him even closer.
  • This came to me while reading through the TV Tropes pages on Harry Potter, on 10/19/2011. Somehow, in the years since I read the first one (what is it, 7, 8 years now?) I forgot that the murder of the Potters and Voldemort's first downfall happened on Halloween, also known as All Hallows Eve. Deathly Hallows?
    • "Hallows" just means something sacred or "hallowed". Having said that, you have a point about the date they died; All Hallows' Eve is said to be the night when the veil between our world and the other is thinnest, so spirits can travel more freely - perhaps foreshadowing that the four people who had the Killing Curse turned or rebounded on them that night would all come back in their own ways ( James and Lily return in spirit form in Books Four and Seven, Harry literally comes back, and Christ knows Voldemort can't seem to stay dead).
    • To that extent, the witches and wizards celebrating in broad daylight the next day are doing so on November 1, also known as "Dia de los Muertos", or "Day of the Dead". Many Spanish-speaking countries, especially Mexico, celebrate this day by remembering and praying for deceased family members. So, the entire Wizarding World is celebrating the death of Lord Voldemort, and mourning and praying for James and Lily Potter. —Bluhedgehog
  • Saving Malfoy from The Fiendfyre in Room of Requirement. Knowing that Malfoy was a total jerk in the series, Harry's decision to save him was not convincing for Harry's goodness was not a satisfying enough reason. Then, looking past, during the Malfoy Manor, Malfoy's failure to confirm Harry Potter was technically saving Harry's life so it becomes more like I.O.U for saving Harry's life. Malfoy's incompetence as a death eater saved a crucial plot point.
    • Why isn't Harry's goodness enough of a reason? Draco is a "total jerk", yeah, but he doesn't deserve to die for it and Draco hadn't really done anything all that bad up to this point. Plus, repaying him doesn't explain Goyle. Harry was probably just saving them because he's not a complete monster.
  • I didn't realize this until just about my fourth reread of book seven. It may or may not be deliberate, but at the beginning of the book George loses one ear. One part of an identical set. Then, near the end, Fred dies in battle. Again, one part of an identical set. The idea that JK was foreshadowing the latter in such a subtle fashion blew my mind a little. I hope that was deliberate, because it's an amazing touch if it was.
  • Voldemort's closeness with Nagini seems a little unusual, given that he's a narcisstic, sociopathic megalomaniac. But then you realize: As a Horcrux, Nagini is an extension of Voldemort. Nagini is Voldemort. Thus, when showing closeness with Nagini, Voldemort is showing closeness with... himself. -The G Dude
    • *Snicker*. He's showing closeness with himself by stroking his snake. Heh heh.
  • At the end of "Deathly Hallows: Part 2" what's the very last thing we, the audience hears? An unnamed and unseen child yelling, "Goodbye!" This very well could be a farewell from the filmmakers to those in the audience who started watching the series as little kids, and saw it all the way through to the very end...a piece of their childhood saying farewell at the end of a journey from one stage of life to another.
    • You just made me cry a little into my keyboard. Thanks for that, unnamed Troper.
  • Bellatrix seems awful happy about Fred's death. Fridge Brilliance sets in when you remember in the first book that Fred and George were hitting Quirrell in the back of the head with snowballs, aka hitting Voldemort in the face. Bellatrix most likely found out about this somehow, and what with Bellatrix's loyalty to Voldemort, her satisfaction is rather explainable.
    • That's kind of a stretch. It's really hard to believe Voldemort decides to chat with her about the time a couple of kids were throwing snowballs at him while he was on Quirrel's head. Heck, he probably doesn't even remember that by the time Bellatrix escapes from Azkaban in book 5. I personally believe you should go with occam's razor here: the reason she's so happy is that she relishes other people's pain, specially when it comes to what she calls "blood traitors".
  • In the movie, Voldemort's evil laugh is not completely satisfying. Why? Well, as far as he knew, he'd won his goal of killing Harry, which he'd been pursuing even since the Killing Curse rebounded. Meaning, other than the takeover of the Wizard world (and the murder of the Muggle one), he had nothing else to live for. In other words... the first sign of his Villainous Breakdown. Harry revealing he wasn't dead AGAIN was simply the final straw.
  • A small detail in the first film. During the scuffle with Rowle and Dolohov in the cafe, Ron is the one who angrily identifies the latter. Which Death Eater harmed Hermione the most in the Department of Mysteries back in OOTP?
    • Who is also credited with killing or helping to kill two of his uncles?
  • As a witch, it always bothered me that in Deathly Hallows, Harry wanted to do the burial "properly, without magic." What is so improper about using magic for that? On 2/13/2013 I had an idea about why Harry would think that way. Burial with magic would say he is one of us (the deceased is male) a wizard. Burying him in a method available to almost all the species in the series, with shovels, is a way to say we all are one people. Timeaesnyx
    • It's a sign of respect to Dobby. As a house elf, Dobby was a slave, doing backbreaking labour for wizards for most of his life. Magicking the grave is the easy way out, and by digging it manually Harry is repaying Dobby for all the years that he was enslaved.
  • It irritated many book readers that in the film version of Deathly Hallows, Voldemort is (like in the book) impacted with a rebound Killing Curse, but (unlike the book) dissolves into ashes instead of just being instantly killed and leaving a corpse. Upon rewatching a couple of HP movies, it struck me that David Yates made this change because it works perfectly within the movie canon: this way, Voldemort's death mirrors that of Professor Quirrell in the first movie. Yumny
  • I haven't read the books in a while, and I'm not sure if this was made explicit in Hallows, but as you know, Wormtail dies by his own silver hand when he hesitates to kill Harry. All the way back in Goblet of Fire, when Voldemort gave him the silver hand to replace the one Wormtail gave up, he says to the healed Wormtail, 'May your faith never waver again.' Can't say ol' mouldy Voldy didn't warn him. -piratemonkey06
  • I just noticed that in Deathly Hallows, when we see the trial of a muggle-born, the "justification" given is that she somehow must have "stole" her magic, and is thus not really a witch. In other words, Voldemort is running a reverse witch hunt. - Bergil
  • In Deathly Hallows part 2, during The Prince's Tale, you see Snape go to the Potters' house and cry over Lily's dead body. You see baby Harry crying in his crib in the background. in the movies, Hagrid is still the one that brings Harry to the Dursleys. That means that Snape had come and gone before Hagrid got there, and he made no effort to take Harry to safety or anything. It really makes you question if Snape actually cares about Harry.
    • Considering he was a known Death Eater, it wasn't like he could just go and take Harry. People would probably assume he tried to finish the job Voldemort couldn't, or something like that.
    • Snape never really cared about Harry, as he flat out says he never did anything for Harry (as he says in the book - maybe in the movie, too). Snape only helped Harry and kept him save for the last seven years for Lily's sake and because Dumbledore told him too. Not to mention, Snape was completely heartbroken at that moment. Ignoring James' son? Pretty easy for him at that point.
  • In Chamber of Secrets, Harry tells Dobby "Just promise never to try and save my life again." In Deathly Hallows, Dobby dies while saving Harry's life.
  • Near the end of the series, Harry asked Dumbledore if the whole conversation at Kings Cross was real or just happening inside his head and Dumbledore answered, 'Of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?' This not only spoke as what Harry Potter means as a story but also what it means to write a story and J.K Rowling as a long time writer finishing a series would know it better than anyone and this is the time her emotions for this message was strongest. It relates to her as Harry Potter was a world happening inside her head but just because it wasn't tangible doesn't mean it's not real. For all of us, knowing that loving the characters is indeed loving something real as fictional characters aren't the text in a story, the drawings or even any actors who play them. They are the heart put into them, that for certain is real.
  • I have always been a Harry Potter fan, and got into some thinking about what would happen after the story. No where is the final line of the last book: "The scar had not pained Harry for nineteen years. All was well." Now this seems like a happy ending, but why was Harry able to sense Voldemort? The piece of soul in him. SO that would mean that Harry is no longer a parseltongue, but it also means that he can no longer sense Voldemort. Which would mean that even if Voldemort rises again, Harry wouldn't be able to sense it.
  • Harry is able to cast a crucio on Amycus Carrow for spitting at McGonagall, but is unable to do more than mildly discomfit Bellatrix after she kills Sirius. Sure, he's a more powerful wizard by then and everyone has become just a little bit darker thanks to the times, but Bellatrix actually says that "righteous anger" is not enough to fuel the curse. It's natural and understandable, even justifiable (depending on your worldview) to hate and want to kill/inflict severe pain on someone who kills a beloved father-figure. Wanting to inflict that pain on someone for spitting on someone? Much darker and, well, they're called the Dark Arts for a reason.
  • When Harry wakes up after Voldemort's Killing Curse, he's on another version of Platform Nine and Three Quarters. Where can he go from there? Into the afterlife, or back to his life, the magical world. From the normal, actual Platform Nine and Three Quarters, he can either go to the magical world, or to the Dursleys. So, basically, Dursleys to Wizarding World like Wizarding World to Afterlife? Might be a hint how life after death in that universe looks like, or, if we go with heaven - compared to the Dursleys, the Wizarding World is heaven.
  • Luna helping drive off the dementor swarm during the battle becomes even more impressive when you consider that, like Harry, she would probably be particularly badly affected by them because of having witnessed her mother's death at a young age. Admittedly, she seems to have mostly come to terms with it, but that may not matter with dementors, since they seem to make you relive your worst memory as it happened.
  • You know how the Prophecy said that Voldemort would mark the Chosen One as his equal? And how, at Hogwarts, kids call each other by their surname unless they are friends? Well, in Deathly Hallows, when Voldemort and Harry fight in the Great Hall, Harry calls Voldemort by his surname. In essence, Harry is treating Voldemort like another student, or, in other words, an equal.

Fridge Horror

    Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 
  • In the first book, Fred and George throw snowballs at Professor Quirrel's turban. Only at the end do we find out that underneath that turban is the most dangerous dark wizard of all time.
    • Doubles as Hilarious in Hindsight. Snowballing Voldemort in the face? BRILLIANT
    • In the Forbidden Forest, the unicorn-drinking Quirrel is described as "crawling across the ground like some stalking beast" - now imagine Quirrel crawling backwards across the floor, letting the Voldemort face on the back of his head do the drinking...
      • Actually, there's a passing reference at the end to Quirrel drinking the blood for Voldemort, so presumably, Quirrel was drinking it normally, and Voldemort got the effects . . . somehow.
  • The fact that three 11 year olds and a 12 year old (Hermione's birthday is mid-september) were sent into the Forbidden Forest to find a unicorn that had been badly hurt for being out after curfew. Hagrid even says that a werewolf wouldn't be able to do it. And as we learn in the next book, there's an entire colony of giant spiders in the forest! Oh, and Hagrid even tells them that "Yeh've done wrong an' now yeh've got ter pay fer it.'" when Harry and Hermione (and Ron in the movie) are in trouble for helping him! What the Hell, Hero? doesn't even begin to cover it!
    • He was say that to Draco. Quite angrily too. Which makes sense. If it wasn't for Malfoy, Harry and Hermione wouldn't be in trouble. Kinda although given that he seems to think that a trip into the forest is an appropriate punishment for tattling...
    • Considering that they were accompanied by Hagrid (more than capable of handling anything the Forest could throw at them) or Fang (who could at least get help) and were close enough that Hagrid could find them relatively quickly after the sparks were sent up, I'd say they were safe enough.
      • This Troper always figured the same thing; while, yes, there are dangerous creatures in the forest, Hagrid knows most of them. Think about it; aside from Voldemort, what's really out there? Unless it's a full moon, there are no werewolves (yes, it was full in the movie, but that's debatable canon) and they tend to helpfully announce themselves by howling; he's hardly going to lead the kids to a clan of Acromantulas; the Centaurs were peaceful at the time, the Thestrals are tame... they were always close enough together that if by some chance they really were attacked by something dangerous, Hagrid would be able to intervene. The punishment was likely meant to be the tiredness and the fear, rather than any real danger.
      • That argument would make more sense if there weren't dead unicorns showing up. There was very clearly some sort of unknown threat in the forest.
      • It only takes a few seconds to go from fine to seriously injured in the forest, anyone who thinks this was an appropriate punishment doesn't know all the much about the wilderness.
      • There is no Seriously Injured in the Wizarding World, seriously traumatized on the other hand...

    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 
  • Ron tries and fails to perform "Ferreverto" on Scabbers (turning him into a fuzzy goblet with a twitching tail instead of a crystal goblet). Funny at the time, right? Now... remember that little tidbit about Scabbers? That he's actually Peter Pettigrew in his Animagus form? Body Horror at it's finest!
    • And Pettigrew would've known that Ron's wand was damaged and malfunctioning, yet would've had to play dumb and just sit there and wait to be transformed into what he could only hope was an intact goblet.
  • Throughout his time at Hogwarts, Tom Riddle was sent back to the orphanage during the summer holidays, and this notably upset him. According to Word of God, The Chamber of Secrets takes place during the 1992-93 school year, and the Chamber was originally opened fifty years before that, meaning circa 1942. Given that Riddle was a fifth year in 1942, that means he was repeatedly sent back to an orphanage in London during World War II
    • And it'd be pretty safe to assume that London wouldn't have been in good shape when he went back after the Blitz in 1941.
    • He probably knew all about World War II and the horrors of World War I as well. While he probably didn't know about the Holocaust until later, just looking at what Muggles did to the cities of other Muggles probably affected his view of them. It wasn't just the Germans, the Allies did the same thing to many German and Japanese cities, including Dresden and Tokyo, and of course by 1946 Voldemort would probably have known about the a-bomb and the Holocaust. It's clear that his goal of establishing wizarding dominion over Muggles was motivated by a desire for power and control and not a wish to "save the Muggles from themselves." Nevertheless, his knowledge of the horrors of World War Two probably helped shape his view of Muggles and led him to believe that it's ok for wizards to treat us the way we sometimes treat each other.
  • Can Muggles see ghosts? I've read those books backwards and forwards, and I can't remember a single instance confirming one way or the other if Muggles can see ghosts. If they can't — then imagine what it would have been like for Myrtle's parents, visiting the school, being told their little girl died in a horrific accident that they can't understand — and with Myrtle floating behind them, unable to communicate with them in any way.
    • She could talk to one of the wizards and relay it.
    • It's mentioned in Deathly Hallows that the cemetery in Godric's Hollow has a reputation for being haunted, because of the number of wizarding-folk graves there. Presumably those rumors got started somehow, so at least some Muggles probably do see ghosts ... not that seeing Myrtle's, and learning that she's stuck that way forever, would necessarily be much comfort to her parents.
      • Perhaps the people who saw the ghosts in the cemetery are Muggleborns that have the power of magic, but Hogwarts somehow missed them, or they weren't strong enough wizards and witches to qualify.
      • On the official wiki, it's stated that there is no such thing as "not enough" magical ability, and that any person with magic is automatically accepted into Hogwarts.
    • It's stated on Pottermore that muggles can feel ghosts(in the manner of cold spots, disembodied mumbling, and sometimes fuzzy outlines if their particularly prone) but they cannot truly see them or hear them speak. But that's even worse if you think about it...her parents could very well have felt her presence and still not have been able to communicate with her.
  • I only realized this after reading the books after age 20. Fridge Horror 1 is that the Dursleys are not just petty jerks, they're child abusers. Including, in the first two books, actively trying to prevent Harry from escaping so that they can continue to abuse him. Fridge Horror 2? Dumbledore knows that Harry lives in the cupboard under the stairs, Dudley's second bedroom, and in book 2 even knows on the same night that Harry has been rescued by the Weasleys. He can't be unaware of the Dursleys' treatment, but apparently sees no need to intervene at any point during Harry's childhood. It would only have taken ten minutes a year for Dumbledore to pop over there and intimidate them into being decent, but he doesn't do that until Harry is sixteen (and they'd given up at the end of book 3). Basically Dumbledore seems okay with child abuse so long as it's not deadly—oh, and Harry doesn't come into Hogwarts with a big head. His guardians didn't have to encourage their son to beat Harry up every day in order to not grow up an egotistical prat, Albus.
    • I see your point...but the Dursley's didn't really encourage Dudley to beat Harry up.
      • Well, at least in the first book, Vernon did encourage Dudley to hit Harry with his Smeltings stick.
      • Dumbledore sent Harry back to the Dursley's house because the second they accepted him into the home, however begrudgingly, they also accepted the love Harry's mother had for him, that way he was protected with his mother's love.
    • No neglect is acceptable, nor abuse. However, better mild-moderate emotional abuse and moderate-advanced neglect than the kid dying. Because, you know Bellatrix Lestrange would definitely had killed him if she could. Most of the death eaters would have arranged some kind of 'accident' for Harry if they could. Furthermore, the ridiculously high-target kid is also the prophesied only hope for permanently stopping a huge and extremely powerful terrorist organization that nearly took over Britain after eleven years of war. Sorry, Harry, but as long as he's not a vegetable or a bloody mess by the time he gets to Hogwarts, the entire population of Britain is more important than you.
      • Then get him out of the country or something, there's a ton of room between letting him suffer abuse (and mild-moderate emotional abuse my ass nothing about them was moderate) and letting him die. Options were there.
      • If you don't think that's mild abuse then you've never seen real abuse. Anyway, Voldemort is not bound by England borders, seen as he lives in Albania for nearly ten years.
      • There is nothing to stop the Death Eaters from chasing Harry across the world, killing countless people along the way, if he was removed from the Dursleys. It's made clear that yes, Dumbledore does know how they treat Harry, but he keeps him there because it's the best possible option that will prevent his death. Furthermore, once Harry is of age and the spell wears off, Dumbledore has a talk with the Dursleys where he makes himself very clear that they ignored his wishes that they treat Harry as a son, and that he was very, very angry about it.
  • A rather minor one, but consider Voldemort's preferred means of disposing of dead bodies, namely, feeding them to his pet snake. Now imagine what was in store for Ginny once Tom Riddle had returned to full strength with a Basilisk on hand.
    • There is actually an aversion to this example, but it has some alternatives that highly elevate the horror. From memory I believe the message recently left on the wall was "Her skeleton will lie in the chamber forever." So perhaps Tom planned to just leave her body there until it decomposed into nothing but a skeleton. However, while it probably doesn't matter and is just overthinking it, What if Tom meant skeleton literally? As in, just a skeleton? Not a skeleton in old dusty clothes? Then again, he very well could have planned to feed her to the Basilisk. But Harry notes how cold her body already is. Most of Voldemort's victims were freshly killed, the Basilisk would be helping itself to an icicle. So Tom would probably quick-grill (burn) her beforehand. But the most likely outcome is Tom planning to leave her body in the chamber as a skeleton, torching her clothes, flesh and all off beforehand to save a little time. Knowing what a sadistic psycho Voldy is, it's not unlikely. Poor Ginny.
  • Do we know whether or not the Basilisk can choose who it kills with its gaze? Because if it just kills ANYONE who stares it in the eye, what would happen if Draco happened upon it? Could it have killed him too? Lucius's level of evil or at least arrogance that he knows what he's doing is even more disturbing when you realize he let a monster loose in the school that could have killed HIS OWN SON, and he never showed any sign that he thought that Draco might be in danger. Not only was it capable of killing muggleborns, the basilisk could have killed ANYONE who looked into its eyes, including teachers as well as students! The ones who were petrified were extremely lucky, considering that their condition was able to be cured.
    • Lucius didn't know what the diary was, so how could he have known it would set a Basilisk on the school? If he knew it was going to do something horrible, then he probably just thought it would kill Ginny.
      • Lucius definitely knew something about the diary, because Dobby drops a hint in his warning to Harry that indicates the house-elf knew it contained a memory of Voldemort as a youth. Lucius probably didn't know that the Chamber monster was something as indiscriminately-deadly as a basilisk, however.
      • According to Dumbledore, Lucius likely knew that the diary would release Slytherin's monster but not how it did it, what the monster was or that it actually contained a portion of the Dark Lord's soul.
    • The Basilisk is looking for muggleborns. It would petrify/kill anyone who comes across it, but it's avoiding contact with purebloods. We know that it can hurt anyone because of Nick and Mrs. Norris.
  • Anyone else notice that the developmental process for the Mandrakes included them throwing a party? Yes, it was a joke about teenage behavior, but it also suggests an unsettling degree of cognitive ability and emotion on the part of organisms that Professor Sprout was raising for the express purpose of cutting them into pieces and stewing them.
    • And if anyone noticed, she said that the mandrakes would be ready/mature after they start trying to "move into each others pots" meaning that the mandrakes were trying to sleep with each other
    • What's the difference between cutting up the mandrakes for a life-saving potion and killing an animal for food?
      • Cut up an animal that's smart enough to throw a party and eat it, then tell us if you feel worse about it than about eating a hamburger.
      • There's tons of studies and evidence out there cataloging animal behavior and how intelligent certain species are. Gorillas have been known to create paintings, yet people still poach them. Plus, In-Universe, wizards have a tendency to treat other sapient species (House-Elves, goblins, etc.) pretty terrible.
  • Lockhart specialized in erasing memories. He showed a clear lack of morals in wiping a piece of person's mind and was even willing to leave a young girl to die and destroy the minds of two boys ( and maybe leave them in the chamber to die as well). He was in a school for a year. Part of that year, the well-known, respected and sometimes feared headmaster was gone. It was perfectly acceptable for teachers to be alone and unsupervised with students, even extremely late at night (in Harry's dentention with him, it started at eight and last four hours and no one looked in once, even to point out how late it was and Harry had classes the next day or even to talk with Lockhart about something). So, alone with minors for significant periods of time, lacking morals and able to erase memories that could cause trouble for him. Eep!
    • Gilderoy Lockhart loved fame, fortune, and the admiration of his fans, and for a detention called students up to his office to sort through his fan mail. All alone in his office, with a man who could make you forget anything.
  • During Harry's confrontation with the Apparition/Fragment of Voldemort's soul that has taken the form of his younger Tom Riddle self, Riddle!Voldemort mocks Hagrid, explaining why he was the perfect fall guy for the Heir of Slytherin because of his penchant for keeping monsters around him, like "werewolf cubs". Later we learn how werewolves are created in the Harry Potter world making this seem like an error. Fridge Horror kicks in even later when we learn of the sadistic Fenrir Greyback who bites young children, turning them into werewolves at a young enough age that he can easily indoctrinate them with hatred and contempt for "normal" wizards and witches. While it may not have been his work, this may have been the circumstances under which the "cubs" Hagrid sheltered came into being.
    • Jossed. Word of God says that the reference to werewolf cubs was merely Riddle's own racism showing itself, not Hagrid's real behaviour.
  • One of Lockhart's books says that he cured a werewolf once. At first, it seems to contradict what we learn about werewolfs in later books. But we know Lockhart stole books written by other people and erased their memories. That means it's possible that someone discovered a real cure, and Lockhart deleted their memory. That's right: Lockhart deprived the whole wizarding world of cure for lycanthropy.
    • While that's possible (and horrifying), the fact that the charm had a name (the Homorphous Charm) implies that it's at least known. What's likely is that it's the same spell Sirius and Lupin performed on Scabbers—a spell that forces a transformed wizard into their true state for several hours. Theoretically, it could be applied—by a wizard extremely skilled in Transformation—to a werewolf, as well. It's highly unlikely that the effect would be permanent.
      • Lockhart said that "he" saved the village from the monthly terror of werewolf attacks, but that may have simply been a case of exposing the identity of the werewolf. That way they could take precautions to restrain him/her... or kill them, as the case may be.
  • Lucius draws his wand on Harry after Harry frees Dobby. Listen to what he's snarling under his breath as he does so: "Avada". Harry was two seconds away from being murdered on Dumbledore's doorstep if it weren't for Dobby's intervention.
    • Jason Isaacs admitted in an interview that he went with the killing curse as it's the only one he could remember
  • Dumbledore cancelling exams seems pretty sweet at the onset, but that has got to pay hell on the OWL and NEWT students. For the petrified kids, it's better than sitting an exam covering material they never learned, but the other, non-petrified students... Exams are created to prove proficiency and/or worth in a subject. How are they going to explain how everyone got the same grade with zero effort? Looks like Hermione wasn't just being a spoilsport.

    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban 
  • In the third book, when Percy is parading his Head Boy badge, Fred and George threaten to stick it to his head with a Permanent Sticking Charm. In the fifth, we see that the effects of such a charm are Exactly What It Says on the Tin when the Order is unable to remove the portrait of Mrs. Black. So in essence, there is a charm that sticks things together, permanently, with no counterspell, that can apparently be used on humans (and presumably other living things as well)...when you think about it, there are countless horrific ways to use a spell like that, some of which could easily be thought of as mere pranks by the people doing it.
    • Made even worse when you realize there is a way to get rid of those things, given that wizards have been shown to heal large, missing chunks of a body, and even reattach limbs, without much trouble... -Hyrin
    • I think you're overthinking it. I always assumed Fred and George were just being over-dramatic. It's not uncommon for people to say things like that even if they're impossible or they'd never do it, like "if you don't stay seated on that chair, I'll nail you to it".
    • To be fair, skin is flaking off constantly, so it'd be a lot easier than with a wall...
  • In Harry Potter, Percy and Ron Weasley handled Peter Pettigrew's poop for 12 years and were likely naked in front of him.
    Ron: I let you sleep in my bed!
    • On a lesser note, how much revolting rat food has Pettigrew had to subsist on in that time?
      • Eh..the bastard deserved it.
      • Although it's said (by someone, TT forgets) that, the longer one spends as an Animagus, the more like that animal his/her mind becomes. Hell, Peter Pettigrew still looks and acts somewhat like a rat in his human form. In short, after so much time as a rat, rat food probably became quite normal for him - and that's assuming he wasn't fed scraps from the Weasley table, because most young children with pets tend to do that, especially if it's food they don't particularly like.
  • On this note, during all of the time that Percy and Ron had Peter in their rooms it was highly likely that Fred and George had *the Marauder's Map and used it often. Why didn't they tell Percy or Ron that they were shown sleeping in the same space as a dead person?
    • They may not have recognized the name or spent time staring at their brother's dot when they were in their dorm rooms.
    • If they didn't recognize the name does that mean they think that Percy has some lover they've never met who moved on to Ron, when Ron was only eleven?
    • Perhaps Peter (having helped create the Map) was able to temporarily hide himself (at least from the twins). Lupin, knowing how it worked, was able to see the truth after taking it from Harry.
      • I think this makes a lot of sense. After all, if the map fell into someone else�s hands, the last thing the Marauders would want would be for it to be used against them.
      • Except that Harry sees Pettigrew's name on the map.
      • That's only in the movie.
      • Agreed. To expand on this: the Marauders probably took precautions to hide their own names from appearing on the map, since if a staff member would to confiscate it (as we know Filch did) and somehow manage to read it, their days of sneaking around would be over. Years later, when Lupin came across the map again as an adult, what would he have wanted to use the map for? Obviously to check for Sirius. In that case, Lupin would have needed to lift the charm that hid Sirius, which had the unexpected consequence of revealing Pettigrew as well. (Of course, this brings up the question of why the twins never noticed Lupin was not on the map during the beginning of the year, but Lupin's hardly their first concern when sneaking about.)
    • If they ever noticed "Peter Pettigrew" on the Map in their brothers' dorm room, they probably assumed it was the name of somebody's pet. We never did learn if Seamus or Dean had pets, after all.
      • Do pets even show up on the Maurauder's Map?
      • Yes, when Harry first uses it, one of the first characters he sees on the map is Mrs. Norris.
  • On the way to Hogwarts, at least one dementor searches the train. A creature that feeds on happiness and souls was in confined quarters with a few hundred emotional children and teenagers. Even worse, it's implied that there wasn't an auror or official around keeping an eye on it! What if Lupin didn't drive it off with a patronus?
    • What if the insane murderer Sirius Black had been on the train and the authorities hadn't done anything to find him?
  • One of the books Harry reads mentions the witch burnings and about how they were ineffective because any real witch or wizard would just cast a protective charm on themselves. Which is very nice... for the wizards whose captors helpfully left them their wands and the freedom to use their hands. For those who were searched and tied properly, on the other hand...
    • And even if witches and wizards back then were savvy enough to take precautions about hiding their wands on their person in case they got captured, the essay title explicitly states "Witch-Burning in the 14th Century was Completely Pointless". Anyone familiar with history knows that witches were being burned long before the 14th century. Meaning someone must have invented the Flame-Freezing charm in the 1300s, long after four witches and wizards decided that they really, really, really needed to build a secret magic school. Suddenly, Salazar Slytherin's mistrust of muggles doesn't seem all that bigoted anymore...
      • And what about the Muggleborns? They were raised by Muggles but they were facing the same kind of persecution as wizards and were even less prepared to deal with it.
      • Also, the Flame-Freezing Charm specifically applies to Witch-Burning. As stated on the Burn the Witch! page, the majority of English accused witches were hanged.
      • Wingardium Leviosa, pretend to be dead, then when no one is around, Diffindo the rope and run away.
      • Wizards can perform non-verbal spells, so if they've got their wands on the, they're fine.
  • Azkaban is bad enough on the surface. And then you start thinking about it, and oh my God
    • It gets worse when you realize how screwed up punishment was in the Wizarding World. Outside of school, they have fines, permanent loss of magical power, and soul torturing imprisonment that often drives people mad within weeks, making even the shortest sentence horrifying. What do they do to petty criminals? A fine? Permanent loss of their wands? Torturing them into madness?
    • This may be Fridge Brilliance as well. A war often can and will prompt a government to start flexing more muscles (it's outright stated that the first war resulted in Aurors having license to use the Unforgivable Curses in certain contexts) and it often takes a generation or two for things to go back to the way they were, if they are at all. Many of these measures may have been enacted during the first open war with Voldemort, and probably carried on for a couple of years afterward, because Death Eaters like the Lestranges, Evan Rosier, Barty Crouch, Jr. and others continued fighting for at least several months after Voldemort's first defeat. That would leave probably about 8 years between the end of the fighting and the time period when the books were set, which isn't nearly enough time for a society that's just been through a war to get comfortable again. Just look at America. Since September 11, nothing's really been the same.
  • Percy getting shoved into a pyramid in PoA. It's mentioned briefly and clearly meant to be a joke. Percy can be a pompous jerk, but one has to wonder a few things. Just how long was he in that pyramid before he got himself out or someone else did? And everyone else seems to see nothing wrong with this. Okay, Percy can be an idiot, but still...
    • After a few hours, Fred and George likely would have gone back for him or told someone.
    • The twins "tried to shut him in a pyramid," but Mrs Weasley stopped them.
  • One thing I realized was that when Harry and Hermione were "back in time", Lupin didn't see them on the Marauders map, when he clearly said that he saw Sirius pulling Ron and Peter into the Whomping Willow. Harry and Hermione watched that happen, and I thought it was odd Lupin didn't notice them on the map, if they were close enough to see it.
    • Hermione and Harry spent the majority of their time in the Forbidden Forest, which was off the map. There were a few minutes in which he could have seen them, but he wouldn�t have been looking that closely at the map. Once he caught sight of the Hermione/Harry/Ron running across the grounds, he wouldn't keep looking to see if there was another Hermione and Harry standing by Hagrid's hut.
  • When Snape forces the Marauder's Map to "reveal its secrets", it starts printing insulting text towards him. This is funny at the time, but when we learn what Snape's relationship with the Marauder's actually was, it's like they're bullying him all over again, and in front of Harry as well.
  • The dementors searching the train. Someone thought it was a good idea to palace creatures which feed off happiness and cause insanity-inducing despair around children, some young as ELEVEN, and no one objected to this.
    • First, we know (look above). Second, we already know Fudge lacks a brain.
  • Toward the end of the Prisoner of Azkaban video game, the trio fight Peeves and cause him to fly away crying about the 'nasty kiddies', with Hermione commenting (paraphrased) "I hope we didn't hurt him TOO badly". This is the last time Peeves is seen in the video game series.
    • IIRC, what Hermione says is more like "Do you think we went too far, making him cry like that?" Peeves is probably fine and he just didn't show up again because he's not very important.
  • The scene where Sirius and Lupin interrogate Pettigrew and give him a Reason You Suck Speech starts out as well-deserved but gets scary after the two openly admit to planning to KILL Pettigrew, especially when we have every reason to believe that they would have done it, had Harry not intervened (admittedly, just to have Pettigrew submitted to a Fate Worse than Death in Azkaban and probably to clear Sirius' name by showing everyone the very person Sirius was supposed to have killed. This is hammered home by the Ministry of Magic song "Marauder's Map".)

    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
  • Where did Voldemort get a baby to possess in Goblet of Fire??
    • He didn't. He made that body himself. Not explicitly stated, but very obvious when you pay attention.
      • It also says so directly in the book, although I believe he states Wormtail made it for him.
    • Rowling said somewhere that she horrified her editor when she told him how he got that body. A bit of my own WMG, but I think it's Bertha Jorkin's fetus. Which Wormtail helped to make. - Joebro
      • GAAAAAAH... *shudder*
      • Merlin's. Freaking. Beard. This Is Wrong on So Many Levels. Mind Rape, then actual Rape, then Necromancy... because it's highly unlikely a prematurely birthed fetus survives without either intervention from modern medicine or powerful magic. And then there's the matter of getting Voldemort's disembodied soul INTO that body which wasn't his original body, which TT can only imagine was some sort of reverse Horcrux job. Oh, and then there's the small matter of throwing the body of a baby into a boiling cauldron to call forth a more powerful being - so, in other words, let's add child sacrifice to the list as well.
  • All of the interactions between Neville and Mad-Eye Moody in the fourth book become horrifying when you find out that Mad-Eye" was a fake, and was really Barty Crouch Jr. Long story short: Neville had tea with one of the Death Eaters who tortured his parents into permanent insanity, and he had no idea. Considering how eager he is in the fifth book to have a go at duelling/killing Bellatrix Lestrange, how would he have reacted if he'd have known who the fake Mad-Eye really was? Especially when you realise that the demonstration of the Unforgivable Curses was probably some deliberate, rather twisted attempt at Evil Gloating; he KNEW that Neville would react in the way that he did, so making him watch the spider being tortured was probably Barty displaying how it happened to Neville's parents.
    • He was probably trying to make Neville upset on purpose, so that he would have an excuse to have tea with him and have a chance to give him the book about magical plants that he was hoping would help Harry through the second task.
    • And on the subject of Fake!Moody, remember how we all laughed when he turned Draco into a ferret and bounced him up and down on the ground? We were laughing at a fourteen-year-old boy being picked up and dropped on a stone floor repeatedly. It's a wonder he didn't break any bones. And then if you read Quidditch Through the Ages, you learn that being turned into an animal gives you that animal's brain. Which means that we were laughing at an innocent, frightened ferret being smashed against the floor. And then consider that neither McGonagall, Snape, nor Dumbledore, to whom it must have been reported, seemed to think this out of character. What sort of friends did Dumbledore have?
    • Is it horrible to feel much worse for the ferret than the fourteen-year-old boy?
    • A few fanfics, most notably The Draco Trilogy, have pointed that out. Sympathy for the Devil is very easy when a male role model just slammed him into the ground several times.
  • All memory charms are Fridge Horror. The wizards running the Quidditch World Cup are continually doping up the Muggle running the park with memory charms. Think what Mr. Roberts mind is like after that summer?
    • Memory Charms can be used not only to erase, but to modify memory as well. Meaning he'll probably have memories of extremely uneventful summer.
      • Or alternatively, that awesome summer he spent working at the camp ground with those interesting people , like the guy in the skirt and the huge group of gingers
  • With most of the Harry Potter novels, if you remove the fantastic elements from the climax, it doesn't mean all that much (the possible exception being the third book). But look at the end of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Now remove the magic. What you have is a fully-grown man tying up, humiliating, torturing, mocking, and otherwise tormenting a fourteen-year-old boy. While more adults stand by and watch.
    • And people still mock Harry for being "Emo" in Order of the Phoenix, when he was clearly suffering from PTSD due to, you know, the kidnapping and torturing and murder of a classmate in front of his eyes.
      • Don't forget the attempted murder.
      • And Cho had her boyfriend murdered, and her depression over the loss is mostly played for laughs and she's shown as annoying or boring for it.
      • I don't think it's played for laughs. It seems strange to Harry (and the readers) because it's just the latest in a long series of traumatizing events
    • Lampshaded by Ralph Fiennes himself in the bonus features of the movie, who described it this very way and reflected on how horrifying a situation it is.
  • We've seen that medical magic can achieve amazing cures that aren't possible for mundane science, from re-growing absent bones overnight to flawlessly re-attaching splinched body parts. Nevertheless, Mad-Eye Moody became crippled and horribly scarred over the course of his Auror's career. So what sort of over-the-top destructive forces caused so much damage to his face and leg, that even St. Mungo's couldn't repair? Or was he injured so badly that he couldn't even make it to a hospital for treatment, and had to lie there in agony for weeks while his burns healed non-magically? Nightmare Fuel, either way.
    • After the Sectumsempra and George's ear incident, I just assumed that normal muggle and magical accidents are easy for magical medicine to fix, but that Dark Magic is cast with the specific addendum that it can't be fixed (or at least not easily) with magical medicine.
    • While this makes perfect sense and is definitely fridge horror, I always figured that maybe Moody wanted to be scarred and disfigured. It shows his hardness and coldness. Moody is seriously messed up, particularly in the mind, which is why he's such a brilliant auror. So, maybe his horrific dis-figuration, while still gruesome, may not have completely resulted from dark magic. Other aurors don't seem to be walking around with terrible scars, so Moody could have just been stubborn. (Although something serious definitely happened to that eye.)
    • So, basically, Mad-Eye Moody is a more insane version of Rorschach, who allowed himself to remain disfigured rather than putting on some form of disturbing disguise.
  • Minister Fudge brought a dementor into the school for protection. Not an auror, a dementor. A creature described as pure evil that devours happiness and souls! And when it executed Crouch Jr., everyone basically talked about how he couldn't testify why he did it. Nobody seemed to be bothered that a man was just given a summary execution (that is, an execution without a trial)!
    • If I remember correctly, he'd already been tried and convicted. That's how he got sent to Azkaban in the first place.
    • Conspiracy theory worthy of the Quibbler: Fudge, in order to keep the news about Voldemort from having any evidence, ordered the Dementor to do it. By the start of Order of the Phoenix he's gone slightly mad with power and is irrationally afraid. Perhaps seeing Diggory dead and hearing Voldy wasn't quite as moldy as he thought made hims snap and sic the Dementor on Crouch Jr.
  • It is possible to subject somebody else to a Magical Binding Contract against his will. How? By simply putting his/her name in the Goblet of Fire! Dumbledore even admits it's possible that somebody else put Harry's name in the Goblet. So, you can force somebody (even a first-year student) to participate in a very dangerous event, and if he doesn't, he will die! And Dumbledore, the most brilliant wizard of all time and caretaker of all the students at Hogwarts, didn't even think of some counter-measures and just allowed it!
  • Sirius has been living off rats. Peter's animagus form is a rat. Sirius really wants Peter dead. Make of all that what you will.

    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 
  • Consider this one. In the fifth book, Harry sees a vision of Sirius being attacked, then proceeds to freak out and do everything in his power to go save him. When Hermione tells him that he needs to verify that Sirius is actually missing first, he hatches a plot to sneak into Umbridge's office and use her fire to check if Sirius is at headquarters. This leads to the entire climax, and ultimately Sirius' death. Then you remember that this entire thing could have been avoided if he had simply remembered the mirror Sirius had given him, that would allow Harry to contact his godfather at any time.
    • Harry didn't know what it was at the time, he only unwrapped the gift afterwards. Given his state of mind, it's not implausible that he'd forget about that lump of paper that Sirius had given him several months prior.
  • In Order of the Phoenix, Dolores Umbridge is not shown to be a particularly talented witch, being utterly unable to combat Fred and George's wild array of spells, but she has complete confidence in her ability to cast the Cruciatus Curse (described as a very hard curse to bring off) on Harry. The most likely explanation? She's had plenty of practice using it before.
    • It just requires a level of hatred that most people don't possess, it's not actually portrayed as technically difficult. But yes, fridge horror that Umbridge has that level of hate, and she probably has had practice.
    • To be fair, just because she started to say it doesn't mean it was going to work or that she was angry enough to make it work. Harry tried and failed to cast it.
    • You don't need hatred to successfully use an Unforgiveable Curse. As Bellatrix says, you have to mean it, you have to enjoy causing these people pain for it to work. "Outright anger won't hurt [me] for very long, boy".
  • The listing of floors at St. Mungo's suggests that the hospital is equipped to deal with every possible kind of magical malady, but not to deal with common mundane ailments such as heart disease, diabetes, or cancer. Going by Ron's reaction to the word, wizards don't have any faith in Muggle doctors' capabilities, and none of them know any mundane biology beyond what a ten-year-old Muggle would've been taught, so if a wizard or witch comes down with a non-magical illness, they're going to be stuck with whatever crude home remedy their medically-ignorant families can whip up. Mrs. Crouch's terminal illness might well have been averted if she'd ever thought to go to a Muggle hospital.
    • Perhaps Magical Bugs might be able to handle such things? Though there are many ways in which wizards are far behind, there's nothing to say they haven�t figured out a charm for blood sugar or anything else that we consider unavoidable.
    • Or maybe wizards aren't affected by "normal" illnesses due to their magic? It's possible that Mrs Crouch's illness was something magically based; Abraxas Malfoy died of dragonpox, after all. She could have had something similar.
    • Those diseases are probably cured a) at home with a well known spell, b) by the magical equivalent of a GP or c) from a potion in a water cooler in the foyer of St. Mungo's.
  • The love room in the Department of Mysteries sounds tame enough, but it's been permanently locked with extremely powerful enchantments. Which brings up the question: why is it there if it's not used? The answer is that something went wrong in there that was so horrible that they can't chance going in there ever again. Remember, love in the Potterverse is an extremely powerful magical force. And as they say in the Narnia books, good does not mean safe.
    • And if you remember, they were able to get into the room with the veil of death in it. Whatever's in that room, it's more dangerous than death itself.
  • The more you learn about Sirius Black's life, the more horrifying it gets. Recap: he grew up with an awful, racist, emotionally abusive family that treated him like a disgrace (and had Bellatrix Lestrange over for dinner). At the age of 16, he ran away from home to live with James Potter. A year or two later, he graduated Hogwarts and joined the Order of the Phoenix at the height of Voldemort's power, when he was picking off those who opposed him one by one. Then one of his friends betrayed Sirius' best friends/surrogate family to Voldemort, framed him for it, and got him sent to a prison where HE SPENT THE NEXT TWELVE YEARS FORCED TO RELIVE HIS WORST MEMORIES. Of which there were probably quite a few, by this time. He broke out, managed to prove his innocence to his remaining living friend and godson, then was forced to go on the run again. Finally, he spent the last year of his life shut up in the very house he ran away from as a teenager, unable to take part in the fight against Voldemort because the rest of the world still thought he was a Death Eater who had betrayed his best friend to Voldemort, alone except for Buckbeak, his memories of Azkaban, and an alcohol problem. When you look at it, the best years of Sirius' life honestly seem to be in the midst of a war and on the run eating rats.
    • Bellatrix Lestrange nee Black and her sisters were Sirius�s first cousins and pretty close in age. Sirius probably spent a lot of time around them.
  • I was thinking about this whilst rereading the book, and the moment where Harry comes back from his first detention with Umbridge. His hand is bleeding and cut. He hides it from Hermione, but when she spots it, she really freaks out. I had an thought that maybe, until Harry told her what happened, and considering Harry's behavior up until that point- Hermione might've thought he'd done something to himself.
  • The students claimed they had "Umbridgeitis", ie: Umbridge made them sick, or they were sick of her. Either way. . .

    Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 
  • The scene involving Harry making Dumbledore drink the potion was nasty enough to begin with, but it becomes much worse when you realize what that potion actually does, as hinted by the flashbacks in Deathly Hallows: It makes you live through your worst memories over and over, presumably worse each time. -The Great Unknown
  • Amortentia, Love Potion, is, essentially, a magical date-rape drug. They distribute these openly. ~KCS
  • During Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, there's an army of Dementors "breeding" all over Britain and no one controlling them. Not only that, there's no spell described in the books that can actually kill them (a Patronus just repels them) and Word of God says they're immortal.
  • Fenrir Greyback is a werewolf who tries to bite as many people as possible, in order to get enough werewolves to overcome the wizards. He specializes in biting children, even putting himself close to them so he'll infect them when the moon turns full. There are some very deliberate parallels with pedophilia, but the metaphor gets even more horrifying when you learn or remember that victims of pedophiles have a higher chance of becoming molesters themselves. Now think about what this means for Lupin.
  • The Sectumsepmpra spell which almost made Draco bleed out is noted as "for enemies"by its creator...Gee, I wonder who those enemies were? Answer? Sirius and James.

    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows 
  • If Voldemort actually won, the wizarding world wouldn't be the only place in danger, considering his hatred of Muggles and half-blood types. If left unchecked he honestly may have attempted to take out everyone on the planet that wasn't in tune with what he wanted. Genocide on a mass scale.
  • In Deathly Hallows Part 1, Hermione finds the bloody room and Nagini inside of Bathilda. Killing with Avada Kedavra doesn't leave any blood, so what Hermione saw was likely the aftermath of Voldemort flaying Bathilda so Nagini could hide in the skin. And since nobody knew precisely when Harry was going to head to Godric's Hollow, that body could have been decomposing for months.
  • In The Deathly Hallows, Luna is kidnapped and kept at Malfoy Manor for months! Considering that Bellatrix and Greyback (a sadist with a history of attacking children) had took residence there, imagine what she must have been through.
  • When Dolores Umbridge resurfaces in Book 7, she is seen with several fully corporeal Patronuses. Now, as Book 3 stated over and over again, the basis for creating a corporeal Patronus is a fair bit of magical power combined with thinking happy thoughts. So Umbridge, being the evil Witch with a Capital B that she was (pun completely intended), got her Patronus-jollies from sentencing people to A Fate Worse Than Death. Voldemort might have been the most powerful dark wizard, but Umbridge just on the strength of her pure sadism was a villainous Badass Normal.
  • In Deathly Hallows, Harry successfully casts Crucio on a Death Eater. Think about what this means. The spell causes pain of a magnitude so great that enough time under it can drive the victim into permanent insanity. According to the text, you have to sincerely want to cause another person this amount of pain in order for the spell to work. And you have to go on wanting it while you watch your victim writhing on the floor and shrieking in mind-shattering agony. Harry's only response after casting it successfully is to murmur, "Bellatrix was right. You have to really mean it." Brrrrr.
    • This could be a case of misunderstood Fridge Brilliance in disguise. Harry knocks Carrow through the air, whereupon the death eater falls unconscious. Crucio very clearly doesn't knock people unconscious, or even send them flying—just the pain. So in saying that you "really have to mean it," Harry might be acknowledging the fact that he didn't actually cast the curse successfully, and doesn't have it in him to do so, even when presented with such an obvious and available symbol of everything he hates.
  • The Fate of Umbridge. Harry knocks her out, extinguishing her Patronus, and leaves her, unconscious, in a room full of Dementors.
    • Word of God said that she ended up convicted for crimes against muggleborns and locked in Azkaban, so it should be assumed that she survived that, soul intact.
  • This is more of a Fridge Tear Jerker, but by the end of Deathly Hallows Andromeda Tonks has lost both her husband and her daughter in the space of a few months. Poor thing.
  • What happened to Dumbledore's sister decades before the time the story is set? We are just told that when she was a small child, too young to have any control over her magic, some muggle boys saw her doing magic and were very frightened. So they "wanted to make her feel powerless" in retaliation — Details of what they did are not given, but it left her permanently and severely psychologically damaged. Implication made even worse by how young she was.
    • And to add to that, Dumbledore's father was sent to Azkaban for going after those boys after they attacked her.
  • When you are a kid the fact that Slytherins are bad people is easy to accept. But when you grow up you realize that 25% of the school population are seen as evil by everyone else from their 11th birthday. No surprise that Voldemort had so many followers there : they probably don't have anyone else.
  • Moody's body must have been discovered by agents of the Ministry, as his eye turns up on Umbridge's door. He never has a funeral, however, as the Ministry doesn't want the public to know it's lost one of its most formidable Aurors. Just days later, the Ministry falls under Voldemort's control, when Mad-Eye's corpse is probably still being held in a Ministry-run morgue. We know the bad guys make use of Inferi...
    • Moody only had one leg. They probably wouldn't have bothered.
  • In the film, at the Battle of Hogwarts, there was one scene where a group of Death Eaters Zerg Rush across a bridge while shouting "DEEAATH!". Since none of them use magic, it seems really stupid. But we already know the Death Eaters use the Imperius Curse, and in the sixth book, we hear that they use it on Muggles too, since one of Prime Minister John Major's associates had to be locked up. That group that was Zerg Rushing the bridge? Those were Muggles who had been brainwashed to act as cannon fodder. They had no idea what they were doing.
  • In Part 2, its strange that Draco, Lucius and Narcissa Malfoy walked away from the battle, across what must've been a damage bridge instead of Disapparating, like the other Death Eaters to who fled the scene, but none of them are carrying a wand by that time. Lucius' wand was snapped when Voldemort used it against Harry in Part 1, Draco's wand was currently being wielded by Harry and Narcissa's wand was incinerated by Fiendfyre in the Room of Hidden Things. - FallenAngelII

    Unsorted Fridge Horror 
  • Unsorted because it really applies to two books. In book one, the Dursleys said that they meant to 'squash' the magic out of Harry with years of abuse. Come book six we meet the Gaunts, where we learn that such a thing is all too possible.
  • The very concept of the Wizarding World is Fridge Horror. Think about it. A bunch of people, who at best either know nothing about us at all or regard us in an extreamly condescending way, secretly Mind Rape us into not realizing they exist. And then they say we deserve not to know based on the logical fallacy that we wouldn't "believe" in magic sufficiently enough anyway, whatever that's supposed to mean.
    • Hagrid's reply to Harry when he asks why [the Wizarding World is hidden from the normal world] is that people would want magical solutions for all their problems, and it's a perfectly reasonable claim.
  • You know how "Avada Kedavra" sounds a lot like "Abra Kedabra"? The obvious implication is that someone heard the phrase, didn't know it's implications but knew it sounded/meant something awesome, and it got passed onto fake magicians as a catch phrase. The horror comes from the fact that it's now a common catch phrase and analogous to the sound of a magic gun going off. In book 7, dark wizards could accidentally return fire on muggle kids who scream it too loudly. Inquisitors are bound to shackle up street performers who use it in gambling alleyways (remember that inquisitors live long and leave their atticks clean of pop-culture, Holmes style). AND NOW HAPPY-GO-LUCKY TRICK MAGICIANS AROUND THE WORLD ARE CONSTANTLY SAYING "PLEASE #$%^ THIS SAWED WOMAN TO DEATH".
    • Let's think for a moment about how the wizarding world as a whole behaved in the past, if the one phrase almost everyone associates with magic is a corrupted form of the words of an unblockable deathspell. And . .. with Lockhart and a few others, we are shown quite well what unscrupulous wizards can do, and do routinely. Suddenly, the efforts of the Holy Inquisition in rooting them out seem genuinely heroic, in the universe Rowling has written.
  • Consider the following: Voldemort had an army. In order for someone to have an army - and to even spend some time with power in their hands - there has to be at least some measurable degree of support. In the real world, even the most horrid regimes are supported, if not by a majority, by a loud and not-too-small minority of the people in it - or they would simply fall apart in a few days rather than in a few years. It must, in short, be politically viable. So, Voldemort might be a very powerful wizard, yes, but he only gathered an army and managed to actually control things for a while because his ideology is politically viable in that particular environment. Meaning that, unless there was a purge of sorts (and these aren't exactly foolproof, nor necessarily much of a way to keep the moral high ground) or something, his ideas are still shared by quite a lot of people, some of whom have money and/or political/magical power (the Malfoys being the most iconic example, and they clearly lived through the first war). Said people might, in that setting, try and get into power by hook or by crook in the future.
  • Certain pure-blood families would rather have members marry their own cousins than Muggle-borns or half-bloods. Now we know why Crabbe and Goyle are so dumb.
  • Harry never goes beyond "mediocre wizard" at best... and he was never supposed to. Harry Potter is a story about an average boy who was inexplicably targeted by a terrorist (because of a prophecy) when really he's not worth being a blip on Voldemort's radar. The story wasn't about the rise of a hero — it was about a kid getting caught up in events that he couldn't handle (just like most kids today couldn't handle either). Realizing that made me be a bit less irritated with the last three books in general.
  • The Killing Curse is this when you consider that wizards aren't any less likely than Muggles to be serial killers or mass murderers. Someone could suddenly die one day, and without witnesses, nobody knows what happened to them or who killed them, or who the killer could be. The killer could keep right on going until they got caught, got tired of killing, or died themselves. We've already seen Wizarding law enforcement officials duping Muggles into thinking Muggle victims simply died of gas leaks or heart attacks. This is, of course, assuming that the magic doesn't leave a trace somehow, which would enable wizards to figure out that the victim was in fact murdered, but it still wouldn't leave any clues as to who the killer is. Someone could kill off loads of people just because they can't get caught unless there are witnesses, or other circumstantial clues that would point to a possible suspect.
    • This actually occurred in universe: Tom Riddle murdered his own family, at least one of his customers, and possibly other unknown people before anyone even suspected him of wrongdoing. Its likely that only Dumbledore and Harry are even aware of his early murders.
  • Polyjuice Potion. By drinking it you will become a perfect copy of the original person, even taking over the eye-sight. It can have some horrible consequences, like somebody else posing as you to commit a crime. But, this also means that your privacy is gone. You want to know what a person looks like naked? Drink his/her potion! Stalkers would love it...
  • Dumbledore was confident that the only known relic of Gryffindor (the sword) was always well out of reach of Voldemort, but he was wrong. There was one more object at Hogwarts that once belonged to Gryffindor... the Sorting Hat! The hat itself mentions that it was originally Gryffindor's and it would have been fantastic as a Horcrux, allowing a piece of Voldemort's soul to peek into the hearts and minds of every student who passed through the school! It's a damn good thing Dumbledore never gave Voldemort that teaching position because had the hat been or become his true target, the story could have potentially ended very differently.


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