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27th Sep '16 6:54:48 PM JamesSwann
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** It actually ''was'' her fault. J.K. Rowling has stated in interviews that if Merope had not died Voldemort would have been different -- Voldemort literally does what he does because a woman did what she did; she gave up.
8th Sep '16 2:32:31 AM Shimmer712
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** That can't be right. Ron and Hermione were in close proximity to him for the majority of seven years and they were fine. Most of their disagreements were understandable. Book 4, Ron was feeling overshadowed and jealous. Book 6, Hermione was jealous and frustrated. Book 7, Ron ''was'' affected by Horcrux exposure, but it wasn't Harry. Of course, this means that everything Vernon and Petunia did, they did of their own accord. No extent influences, no being raised to see it as normal, just hate and spite. And they managed to fool all the neighbors and teachers into overlooking the obvious mistreatment even though they didn't even bother to get Harry clothes that fit. How many people in real life are abused and no one notices?
2nd Sep '16 5:49:42 PM SnowSparrow
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* All the hostages in the second Triwizard task make sense, save for one. Harry will miss his first and best friend, Ron, who is also his closest tie to the Weasleys, the people that by book 4 he's coming to think of as his family. Fleur will miss her little sister. Cedric will miss his girlfriend, who he's known for at least 5 years and been going out with steadily for a couple months by then, plenty of time to fall in love by teenage standards. But who will Krum miss most? Hermione. He's been to one dance with her, knows her less than 6 months total, and barely pronounces her name correctly. He has no family or friends he'd miss above a girl he hardly knows. Though it's clear that they like and respect each other, it becomes horribly sad when you realize that this was what Krum considered his most significant tie to anyone.
2nd Sep '16 5:49:06 PM SnowSparrow
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* All the hostages in the second Triwizard task make sense, save for one. Harry will miss his first and best friend, Ron, who is also his closest tie to the Weasleys, the people that by book 4 he's coming to think of as his family. Fleur will miss her little sister. Cedric will miss his girlfriend, who he's known for at least 5 years and been going out with steadily for a couple months by then, plenty of time to fall in love by teenage standards. But who will Krum miss most? Hermione. He's been to one dance with her, knows her less than 6 months total, and barely pronounces her name correctly. He has no family or friends he'd miss above a girl he hardly knows. Though it's clear that they like and respect each other, it becomes horribly sad when you realize that this was what Krum considered his most significant tie to anyone.
2nd Sep '16 5:06:56 PM SnowSparrow
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* In Goblet of Fire, it's stated that kids around Harry's age frequently and adeptly don Muggle clothing and seem to keep up with Muggle fashion to a degree (ie jeans and tees). Even Malfoy - raised isolated in the Wizarding World - doesn't identify Harry as being part of the Muggle world in Madam Malkin's, despite the fact that he'd obviously have been wearing Muggle clothes, which demonstrates that even pureblood kids are used to seeing it. Meanwhile, Wizarding adults range from patchy to utterly hopeless at blending in with Muggles. At first this seems like a throwaway detail. But on closer examination, it seems strange that in just a generation, thousands of years of wearing robes and other extremely dated clothing would give way to casual adoption of and acceptance of Muggle fashion. But then you realize that a great number of wizards who opposed Voldemort were murdered in the years before Harry's first defeat of him, and the children they would have had (or had and who died with their parents) never made it to Hogwarts as discussed above, leaving Harry's year and the decade or so before him much smaller than they would have been if they had normal numbers of purebloods and half bloods who'd been raised in the WW. Therefore, starting probably around the time Bill Weasley entered Hogwarts, there was a much higher ratio of Muggleborns at Hogwarts than in generations past, and an entire generation of Wizarding children grew up with proportionally more Muggleborns, who would have normalized and possibly imported their clothing, among other things.
** May also explain why, except for the Slytherins, nobody seems to care about blood status much at Hogwarts during Harry's time and little is assumed by blood status, despite the adults from all houses being comparatively obsessed with it.
23rd Aug '16 2:59:53 PM Anddrix
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** Other prophecies no one gave credence to that came true: 1. Harry made up that Buckbeak the hippogriff image he saw in his Orb during his Divination exam was flying away. This seems to be a stubborn reflection of his hopes that Buckbeak will live. But that is exactly what happens. 2. Trelawney predicts the end of Half Blood Prince when Harry encounters Trelawny she is playing with a pack of cards and predicts the events at the end of the book (not even she believed it though). 3. In The Sorcerer's Stone the centaurs always say "Mars is bright tonight". Mars is the Roman god of war. They are predicting the oncoming war of the last books.

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** Other prophecies no one gave credence to that came true: 1. Harry made up that Buckbeak the hippogriff image he saw in his Orb during his Divination exam was flying away. This seems to be a stubborn reflection of his hopes that Buckbeak will live. But that is exactly what happens. 2. Trelawney predicts the end of Half Blood Prince when Harry encounters Trelawny she is playing with a pack of cards and predicts the events at the end of the book (not even she believed it though). 3. In The Sorcerer's Philosopher's Stone the centaurs always say "Mars is bright tonight". Mars is the Roman god of war. They are predicting the oncoming war of the last books.



* In the infamous CruelTwistEnding of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Harry [[spoiler: accidentally gets Sirius killed]] when he rushes to the Ministry of Magic to save him from Voldemort, only to find out that [[spoiler: Sirius was never in danger]] and Voldemort was trying to steal a prophecy that only Harry could retrieve--meaning that [[spoiler: Sirius died for nothing]] and Harry [[NiceJobBreakingItHero could have foiled Voldemort's plans if he'd just stayed at Hogwarts and told the adults what was going on]]. Sure, it seems like a perfect way to herald the series' descent into CerebusSyndrome turn...but it's actually the second time in the series that it happens. ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheSorcerersStone'' has almost exactly the same ending, where Harry rushes off to stop Voldemort from stealing the Sorcerer's Stone, only to find that it was sealed inside the Mirror of Erised, where Voldemort was physically incapable of retrieving it. Harry stops Voldemort in the end, but [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he also pulls the Stone out of the mirror after Voldemort fails to, nearly giving him the opportunity that he needs to take it]]; if he'd just told the adults what was going on instead of rushing off to play Hero, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot Voldemort almost certainly would have failed anyway]]. It's easy to miss, since ''Sorcerer's Stone'' actually [[EarnYourHappyEnding ends on a happy note]], but it's an early hint that Harry's ChronicHeroSyndrome isn't always for the best.

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* In the infamous CruelTwistEnding of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Harry [[spoiler: accidentally gets Sirius killed]] when he rushes to the Ministry of Magic to save him from Voldemort, only to find out that [[spoiler: Sirius was never in danger]] and Voldemort was trying to steal a prophecy that only Harry could retrieve--meaning that [[spoiler: Sirius died for nothing]] and Harry [[NiceJobBreakingItHero could have foiled Voldemort's plans if he'd just stayed at Hogwarts and told the adults what was going on]]. Sure, it seems like a perfect way to herald the series' descent into CerebusSyndrome turn...but it's actually the second time in the series that it happens. ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheSorcerersStone'' ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone'' has almost exactly the same ending, where Harry rushes off to stop Voldemort from stealing the Sorcerer's Philosopher's Stone, only to find that it was sealed inside the Mirror of Erised, where Voldemort was physically incapable of retrieving it. Harry stops Voldemort in the end, but [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he also pulls the Stone out of the mirror after Voldemort fails to, nearly giving him the opportunity that he needs to take it]]; if he'd just told the adults what was going on instead of rushing off to play Hero, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot Voldemort almost certainly would have failed anyway]]. It's easy to miss, since ''Sorcerer's ''Philosopher's Stone'' actually [[EarnYourHappyEnding ends on a happy note]], but it's an early hint that Harry's ChronicHeroSyndrome isn't always for the best.
23rd Aug '16 2:42:18 PM katethegr8
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* On the first trip on the Hogwart's Express, Ron has a smudge on his nose that won't come off. If you pay close attention to the conversation on the platform, it seems to be implied that the twins put the smudge on as a practical joke.

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* On the first trip on the Hogwart's Hogwarts Express, Ron has a smudge on his nose that won't come off. If you pay close attention to the conversation on the platform, it seems to be implied that the twins put the smudge on as a practical joke.



* In the film version of ''Goblet of Fire,'' [[spoiler:Fake]]Moody does a pitch-perfect imitation of Hagrid saying "Marvelous Creatures, Dragons." While kind of cool, it seemed to serve no real purpose. But: [[spoiler: While in the book series the Polyjuice Potion changes people both externally and internally, it's established in the film versions of Chamber and Hallows that Film!Polyjuice DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR VOICE. Thus, Barty Crouch Jr. was set up as being adept at Vocal Mimicry, another reason he was able to successfully pass as Moody. As much as I hate the film representation of the Junior Crouch, this was a neat little final clue before the potion wore off.]]

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* In the film version of ''Goblet of Fire,'' [[spoiler:Fake]]Moody does a pitch-perfect imitation of Hagrid saying "Marvelous Creatures, Dragons." While kind of cool, it seemed to serve no real purpose. But: [[spoiler: While in the book series the Polyjuice Potion changes people both externally and internally, it's established in the film versions of Chamber and Hallows that Film!Polyjuice DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR VOICE. Thus, Barty Crouch Jr. was set up as being adept at Vocal Mimicry, another reason he was able to successfully pass as Moody. As much as I hate the film representation of the Junior Crouch, this This was a neat little final clue before the potion wore off.]]



* We find out in the epilogue of ''Deathly Hallows'' that Neville became the herbology professor at Hogwarts. However, {{Word of God}} stated that he served briefly as an auror. Although he proved in the books to be adept at both herbology and auror-ing, it seems a bit of a strange career change to make. Then I realized it would make perfect sense if he ever found out his wife Hannah was pregnant -- Neville was probably worried about being in such a high-risk profession, not out of fear for his own safety, but because he didn't want his kids to grow up without a father the way he had to.

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* We find out in the epilogue of ''Deathly Hallows'' that Neville became the herbology professor at Hogwarts. However, {{Word of God}} stated that he served briefly as an auror. Although he proved in the books to be adept at both herbology and auror-ing, it seems a bit of a strange career change to make. Then I realized But it would make perfect sense if he ever found out his wife Hannah was pregnant -- Neville was probably worried about being in such a high-risk profession, not out of fear for his own safety, but because he didn't want his kids to grow up without a father the way he had to.



* In the movies, the Death Eaters' appearances were modeled after the Nazis and KKK. It made the comparisons to those organizations a little to blatant and Anvilicious. But dressing up like the Nazis and KKK would work to frighten and intimidate muggles and muggle-borns, the Death Eaters' primary victims, who would have knowledge of these groups from muggle history.

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* In the movies, the Death Eaters' appearances were modeled after the Nazis and KKK. It made the comparisons to those organizations a little to too blatant and Anvilicious. But dressing up like the Nazis and KKK would work to frighten and intimidate muggles and muggle-borns, the Death Eaters' primary victims, who would have knowledge of these groups from muggle history.



* Harry never goes beyond "mediocre wizard" at best... and he was never supposed to. Harry Potter is a story about an average boy who was inexplicably targeted by a terrorist (because of a prophecy) when really he's not worth being a blip on Voldemort's radar. The story wasn't about the rise of a hero -- it was about a kid getting caught up in events that he couldn't handle (just like most kids today couldn't handle either). Realizing that made me be a bit less irritated with the last three books in general.

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* Harry never goes beyond "mediocre wizard" at best... and he was never supposed to. Harry Potter is a story about an average boy who was inexplicably targeted by a terrorist (because of a prophecy) when really he's not worth being a blip on Voldemort's radar. The story wasn't about the rise of a hero -- it was about a kid getting caught up in events that he couldn't handle (just like most kids today couldn't handle either). Realizing that made me be a bit less irritated with the last three books in general.
22nd Aug '16 11:39:46 AM neonthefox12
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* To anyone who has read science fiction, you might have heard the phrase "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Now apply this phrase to Harry Potter. Muggles have been advancing technology quite rapidly over the years, while wizards seem to have stayed the same for the most part. Its quite possible that muggles will reach a point where their technology might eclipse magic. Kind of a scary thought, both for wizards and muggles.
31st Jul '16 12:07:22 PM Draconias
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* J.K. Rowling writes about powerful women... yet it's ''because'' of two women that everything from 1000 to 1998 that is related to Voldemort (directly or indirectly!) and Salazar Slytherin happens. If the woman (or women, if a two half grandchildren of Salazar Slytherin started the inbreeding!) who slept with Salazar Slytherin had ''not'' slept with him, then the Gaunt Family wouldn't exist and he wouldn't have heirs... and if Merope had not slept (read: raped) Voldemort's father, then he wouldn't have been born and everything wouldn't have happened. Loads and loads of dead people would be alive, tortured families wouldn't be tortured, families wouldn't have lost people to him. For all the powerful women J.K. Rowling rights about... it's ''because'' of women that the Wizarding world is tortured for years by Voldemort and because of these women that he ''even exists in the first place''.

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* J.K. Rowling writes about powerful women... yet it's ''because'' of two women that everything from 1000 to 1998 that is related to Voldemort (directly or indirectly!) and Salazar Slytherin happens. If the woman (or women, if a two half grandchildren of Salazar Slytherin started the inbreeding!) who slept with Salazar Slytherin had ''not'' slept with him, then the Gaunt Family wouldn't exist and he wouldn't have heirs... and if Merope had not slept with (read: raped) Voldemort's father, then he wouldn't have been born and everything wouldn't have happened. Loads and loads of dead people would be alive, tortured families wouldn't be tortured, families wouldn't have lost people to him. For all the powerful women J.K. Rowling rights about... it's ''because'' of women that the Wizarding world is tortured for years by Voldemort and because of these women that he ''even exists in the first place''.place''.
** That seems a little like blaming Hitler's mom for giving birth to him. Voldemort's actions were his own, while his mom may not have been the best and likely was at least one cause of his being emotionally stunted, it's irresponsible to say it was his mother's fault for his attempts at genocide.
18th Jul '16 8:38:22 AM kuchiki222
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* In ''Order of the Phoenix'', when Molly Weasley encounters a boggart in a locked cabinet, we're told what forms it takes - the lifeless bodies of her family: Ron, Bill, Arthur, Fred and George, Percy, and finally Harry. Did you notice that one tiny detail? Fred '''and''' George. Not even in Mrs. Weasley's worst nightmares could she imagine the twins being separated.

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* In ''Order of the Phoenix'', when Molly Weasley encounters a boggart in a locked cabinet, we're told what forms it takes - the lifeless bodies of her family: Ron, Bill, Arthur, Fred and George, Percy, and finally Harry. Did you notice that one tiny detail? Fred '''and''' George. Not even in Mrs. Weasley's worst nightmares could she imagine the twins being separated. [[spoiler: Come Deathly Hallows, and the twins are permanently separated, making this a FridgeHorror.]]
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