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May 3rd 2017 at 3:02:44 AM •••

Cross-posting to Beauty = Goodness and Beauty Is Bad: these tropes as currently defined are too broad to be tropes, like Hot Dad / Hot Mom used to be. Most characters are beautiful, not because they're good or bad but because they're either played by attractive actors (thanks to the way TV and movies are), drawn by someone who'd prefer to draw attractive people, or written about by someone who tend to write about attractive people because they live in an appearance-obsessed culture. Between these two tropes and fans' own subjective tastes, you're going to end up naming almost every character in existence!

My suggestion would be to zap examples that are just there because the person who added them thought they were attractive, and stick to examples In-Universe - an Alpha Bitch who wins a beauty contest, a heroine who gets compliments on her appearance, etc.

Jan 28th 2016 at 5:07:26 AM •••

What about adding a newspaper comics section with every villain from "Dick Tracy"?

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Jan 29th 2016 at 12:19:33 AM •••

Well, does every villain fit the trope? How?

Nov 17th 2011 at 3:00:41 PM •••

I think someone suggested a Good Is Sexy redirect to this as an alternative on a suggested YKTTW. Would it be a bad snowclone?

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Jan 21st 2016 at 4:55:23 PM •••

Good is Sexy and Evil is Sexy doesn't necessarily apply to someone who's physically attractive. The goodness or evilness itself is what makes them sexy.

Jan 28th 2016 at 12:57:16 AM •••

Beyonce's "Pretty Hurts" is about a young girl's struggle with body image issues, and "Stupid Girls" urges women to be strong and independent but also reduces popular high school girls to crude anorexic, bitchy stereotypes instead of showing them being sad like in the first music video.

Jan 28th 2016 at 12:59:22 AM •••

Can someone make a music section and put the above Beyonce example in it?

Jan 28th 2016 at 2:25:21 AM •••

"Beautiful Soul" by Jesse Mc Cartney is about how he wants to be with a kindhearted person rather than just another pretty face.

Jan 28th 2016 at 2:27:19 AM •••

I think that Pink wrote "Stupid Girls", not Beyonce. Sorry.

Nov 7th 2011 at 11:13:54 AM •••

I pulled this because that series subverts and averts the trope more than it plays it straight. With the added bonus of the entry being nattery.

  • In Naruto almost any ninja whose special abilities involve some sort of physical abnormality is a bad guy. The average member of the Sound village is likely to have some sort of implant that they use as a weapon, and a large number also have cursed seals who's second stage gives them monstrous forms. Villains with sympathetic origins who turned evil were originally normal looking, but have grown deformed (Sasori, Pain). Villains with no sympathetic angle include a shark-man, a guy covered in mouths, and a guy with a patchwork body that's filled with ropes.
    • While their bodies are quite deformed, both Sasori and Deidara's (the aforementioned "guy covered in mouths") faces are quite Bishōnen. As a side note, the members of Akatsuki weren't even originally planned to be human, which has a noticeable impact on the average member.
    • Jugo is a great demonstrator of this as he looks monstrous only when he's evil.
    • There are only two ninja clans in Konoha whose abilities involve any form of physical abnormality; the Akimichi clan and the Aburame clan. Choji Akimichi is constantly derided because of his weight, even though his powers require him to be heavy. Shino Aburame's body is filled with bugs, and he uses them to great effect. He is among the least commonly shown of the Rookie 9, and his most notable trait is that everybody seems to think he's creepy This actually exacerbates the trope, since Aburame wear trench coats to obscure the openings for their insects and the Akimichi just look fat. there's also the Hyuuga, with their blank white eyes that have bulging veins when activated, which have a house system that screws you over if you're a second-born or the descendant of one. not actually EVIL, but once again, this is the token "good guy" village.
    • Of course, there's also the matter of three of the most disgustingly evil men in the Naruto Universe, Hidan, Madara Uchiha (at least used to, and Sasuke are all quite good-looking, so there's some subversion. Kisame might not have a sympathetic angle, but he's at least Affably Evil.

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Jan 21st 2016 at 5:00:38 PM •••

I don't think that there's anything wrong with a character regaining their beauty after learning a lesson if they had it to begin with. The Beautiful All Along and She Cleans Up Nicely tropes are a bit more like Broken Aesops, but the character would probably learn to love herself even if it didn't happen.

Jan 21st 2016 at 5:20:49 PM •••

Removed: the "sigh" Broken Aesop link at the end of the "American Gothic" example both for the reason stated above and the fact that the doctor was really trying to do the right thing and his wife was willing to sacrifice her beauty by still telling him to refuse the deal.

Jan 21st 2016 at 5:30:09 PM •••

How do I create a category? I'd like to add "music" and include "Ridiculous" by Bowling for Soup. The lyrics say "We fall down on the inside/pretty on the outside/turn it around/can we turn it around).

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