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underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
5th May, 2021 12:30:00 PM

Is it that the tables do not exist in the world, or that the wiki doesn't have pages for them? If the second, it's perfectly acceptable to insert redlinks for untroped works. In fact, it's encouraged.

AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 12:31:20 PM

No, the tables outright do not exist, period. I would know. I’m a huge pinball fan myself, and this guy implies that tables for things like Hamtaro and Sonic X exist, when I know for a fact that they don’t.

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underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
5th May, 2021 12:35:20 PM

Maybe PM them. Say you're a pinball fan, and have never heard of those tables. Ask if they have a link to <table> or what company made them. See what happens from there.

AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 12:36:14 PM

No. I have a better idea. I’m gonna PM him and ask him to explain himself here.

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Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
5th May, 2021 12:37:10 PM

On some of the tearjerker pages, like VeggieTales and The Loud House, they seem to be adding any instance of a character crying, even if the scene isn't really sad.

AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 12:39:23 PM

And why don’t you look at some of these edits for that article, too?

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AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 02:43:54 PM

Not to mention all of these false entries seem to be in the wrong folder. They should be in Dot Matrix, but instead they’re in Alphanumerical.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
5th May, 2021 05:59:22 PM

Why don't you pull specific examples for us instead of insisting we look? Also, no offense AJ, but you need to settle down a little. Your tone here is very aggressive, and it's a bit arrogant to insist that since you're a pinball fan, you know every pinball game that exists. You could very well be correct, but claims this big need more evidence than just "take my word for it".

Edit: They did in fact say the troper's name and I'm just blind.

Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 06:52:51 PM

Alright. Sorry for getting aggressive. Here are a few:

  • Candy Shop has The Kid put 2 strawberry Mike and Ikes in his mouth, and then the saliva turns them into something, and it's the match number, which is irrelevant. (Edit: In the family version, the match number is on his tongue! Now that IS relevant!)
  • 101 Dalmatian Street has Triple D (Dallas, Destiny, Deja Vu) trying on different fashion designs for each number of the 10. If they try on a fashion design with the match number, Destiny says "THIS is the outfit for us!"
  • Martha Speaks has Dynamo kicking a ball with different numbers on each pentagon/hexagon. Then, he finally makes it to the goal and the number is in the goal. When the number is matched, he screams, "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!"
  • The Mickey Mouse shorts has Goofy cooking wieners with 1 wiener being the hiding number and another being the 0. Then, he flips one and POW! There's the final number.

  • Hamtaro has Robo-Joe using a hammer to conk one number of the digit 10, and then he finally squishes it to reveal the matched number.
  • Sonic X has Metal Sonic looking through many numbers (which one of them he reacts to). When he finally stops at the matched number, he says "That's the one for me."
  • ToonMarty has Marty and Bernie swapping through rooms with the numbers. When they stop at a room and go in, it's the match number!

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
5th May, 2021 06:57:25 PM

The troper in question's edit history.

They also added something to the description of Hell Is That Noise concerning pinball machines: "All pinball games have a Match Sequence in them and the noise when a number is matched is that knocker."

I...don't even know what that means, and I'm pretty sure that's not what Hell Is That Noise is about.

AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 07:00:04 PM

Basically, a knocking sound is played every time someone gets a free game in pinball, and Match Sequences, if successful, get the player a free game. I don’t think that qualifies either, as it’s not on par with other examples.

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Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
5th May, 2021 07:06:10 PM

Well, searching for "Hamtaro pinball" and a few other titles on that list on Google doesn't appear to return any relevant results, so I believe you when you say they don't exist.

AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 07:08:10 PM

And check out what he wrote for Corvette, an actual table:

Mechanic: "Hey, wait a minute — these numbers don't match!"
Donovan Mc Donough (me): "Don't worry about it! I can make it better!"

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Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
5th May, 2021 07:10:18 PM

...Yeah, at this point, it's safe to call it vandalism.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
5th May, 2021 07:13:36 PM

Okay, yeah, this is an issue.

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AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 07:14:33 PM

So, that settles it. Revert all his edits on Match Sequence and elsewhere. If a moderator is seeing this, I assume you know what you have to do, right?

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
5th May, 2021 07:14:58 PM

AJ, I don't see that in the edit history for that page. Can you link the edit? EDIT: Never mind, it was on the Match Sequence page. I thought it was on the Corvette page.

I will note that this isn't the first time that this person has been reported here. They had Serial Tweaking issue back in January that (lo and behold) I had to fix. They tried to add a blue link to a page, edited the page about six times, and then gave up, leaving that part of the page in a bad state.

Edited by Arctimon
AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
5th May, 2021 07:20:29 PM

So this guy’s got a history. Did the mods do anything the first time he got brought up here?

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
5th May, 2021 09:02:40 PM

Other than someone cutting the WMG page they made, no. I can only guess that there wasn't much need for mod intervention; their edits were easily fixable and they were brand new at the time.

AJ, I echo War Jay's sentiment that I think you need to step back and relax for a bit. I have also sent the troper in question a PM. Moderators aren't around 24/7, but we're already pretty long here in this query. It would be pretty hard to miss.

There's not much else we can do other than monitor the situation until the mods see this.

EDIT: For the record, I did delete his addition to Hell Is That Noise since it's misuse, but I do kind of want to see if they come around with an explanation for their additions to the Match Sequence page, since I like a lot of other people don't know enough about pinball machines to accurately say they don't exist.

Edited by Arctimon
BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
5th May, 2021 11:35:08 PM

I'm pretty knowledgable about pinball machines (including keeping up to date on recently-created ones) and I have never heard of any of the games this editor claims exist in his edits. I did some quick Google searching for a few of them (like Sonic X and Martha Speaks) and found nothing there, either.

I'd say they can all be safely reverted, though I understand Arctimon's desire to hold out for an explanation from the troper in question.

Edited by BlueGuy Pinball cleanup thread
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
6th May, 2021 02:07:57 AM

I've banned that troper, this looks like vandalism.

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AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
6th May, 2021 03:44:02 AM

Thanks, Septimus.

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AjWargo Since: Dec, 2014
6th May, 2021 03:44:04 AM

Ninja’d.

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