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Tenebrika
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SeptimusHeap
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(Edited uphill both ways)
12th Apr, 2021 01:49:45 AM
Issued a suspension.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Boomerang 123 goes easy on context and heavy on shoehorning and complaining.
On YMMV.Strange Magic, they added this:
- The Scrappy:
- Sunny is disliked for being an annoying simp towards Dawn and tries to mess with her free will to get together with her. It doesn’t help that he doesn’t even seem to care that he caused the movie's conflict.
- Roland is annoying and obnoxious even by villain standards. He’s not subtle about his intentions at all, is a complete rip-off of Hans and Gaston, doesn’t really do anything entertaining or intimidating, and his voice sounds like Nicholas Cage doing a bad Elvis impression. His comeuppance isn’t even satisfying or fitting, it’s just nauseating.
Roland is a Hate Sink, and Sunny, from what I know about the fandom, is well-liked by the movie's fans, despite the problems with the way he's written.- So Bad, It's Good: The movie's jukebox musical concept is cheesy, but sometimes you can’t help but laugh at how unrecognizable the songs sound compared to the originals.
As far as I know, the songs are among the better-received aspects of the movie.- Cliché Storm: A princess swears off love forever after a bad relationship and somehow ends up falling in love with someone along the way. Not to mention, the villain's whole motivation for destroying love has been done to death.
- Designated Hero: Sunny is supposed to Dawn's one true love, but he comes off as a bit of a jerk for trying to use a love potion on her and practically manipulates her into hooking up with him at the end, even though she clearly wasn’t interested.
The last two entries may have a point there somewhere, so I edited them, cut the blatant lies and complaining, and sent a complaining notifier. I'm not sure the troper got the memo: while they apparently eased up on "simps" and "rip-offs," they switched to shoehorning:- Arc Fatigue: About two thirds of the film consist of the characters singing pop songs or wacky antics. We don’t get any real action or character development until the third act.
I asked if this was an example and got a confirmation that it was not.Then, they added entries that sound like "things I personally wish happened":
- Ass Pull:
- Bog survives his castle being destroyed with only a small scratch. You’d expect him to have a sprained ankle or at least a stubbed toe.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
- Even people who liked the film wished the movie would give more depth to the two kingdoms being divided and why they refuse to live in peace. It was more like a "stay on your side" kind of deal.
- Marianne and Bog’s romance is praised, but it doesn’t get much development or focus. It would have been nice to see how their romance would affect their respective kingdoms, but by the time they start falling for each other, there’s only thirty minutes left in the movie.
And then, the troper added to Characters.Strange Magic some things I deleted from YMMV page, with minimal context:- No Celebrities Were Harmed: Sounds like Nicholas Cage doing a bad Elvis impersonation.
- Card-Carrying Villain: Roland is not subtle about his intentions at all.
- Dumb Muscle: He’s not very bright.
Well, you can't provide sufficient context when the tropes don't fit. The guy is not subtle about being a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, yes, but this doesn't make a Card-Carrying Villain; he's not very bright indeed, and he hides when a fight starts. And he is not voiced by Nicholas Cage; that entry sounds like complaining again. You can apply quite a few villainy and stupidity tropes to this character but not these ones. Is there a notifier for shoehorns?Looking through their edit history, I spotted more entries with insufficient context, at the very least, here and here, so I sent a context notifier, too. Since then, they made edits here and here; some of them lack context again. (I don't know these works, so I can't judge if the tropes fit.)
Also, a couple of days after I sent the complaining notifier, they added this entry on YMMV.Ice Age 5 Collision Course:
- Narm: Many interviews with the cast members and spots called this, "the best Ice Age movie ever" and that couldn’t be farther from the truth.
The entry was axed for complaining.