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It's YMMV, so theoretically a character can have more than one YMMV if fans disagree on where the line was crossed, as long as it's clear they did' cross the line during the story.
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Possibly dumb question: is there some reason we can't keep both?
They're YMMV for two separate, if related, works. Is there some reason Porky can't cross the MEH in one work, then cross a different one in the next?
^ I don't think so.
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I thought that a character can only cross the MEH once ever in the entire series.
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Technically, but...
- It's YMMV, so fans disagree on where the line was crossed. If the character did obviously cross the line, they can't uncross it, but fans may disagree on where the MEH took place.
- Fans may also disagree on if the line was crossed in one work or another.
Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with a character having separate MEH for separate works. Especially considering it's a pretty distant sequel, both in and out of universe.
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Alright, how is this write up for Mother 3?
- Moral Event Horizon: If fans didn’t think he crossed it back in Earthbound, then they think Porky Minch crossed it with the very first action he partakes in this game by being responsible for the creation of the chimeras, and by that extent, Hinawa's death. Still others think he crossed by turning Claus into the Masked Man.
^ A little more explanation about why these actions were MEH-crossing might help, especially since the first reads as "he indirectly caused one person's death" which obviously isn't enough for a MEH.
Alright, I am going to play through the game again, so I'll probably fill out the details later. Would it be better if I just commented it out for now?
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As someone who named their account after this game, I'll explain why I think both are valid ( and not just because of YMMV).
Porky in Earthbound and Porky in Mother 3 are two completely differently written characters. They each have different arcs.
How does that make sense? They’re the same character.
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Yeah, but they have different arcs. They have different goals. They cross the MEH for different reasons.
Um... shouldnt that be up to a mod to decide?
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^ Why? This is just how MEH works.
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I meant that for Earthbound Fan.
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But if they hypothetically did something to redeem themselves in 3, the MEH in EarthBound would no longer apply. So it is effectively the same character.
Adding "If fans didn’t think he crossed it back in Earthbound" to the Mother 3 examples will be sufficient fix.
This brings up the general question of how to deal with situations where if one character crosses the MEH in one work, another character crosses the MEH in a different work, and then later on The Reveal reveals that the two characters are the same person.
(It does not help that the Inconsistent Dub of Porky's name pretty much invented a reveal that did not actually exist, with only Super Smash Bros. clarifying the situation for English-speaking fans.)
Edited by Albert3105
The Earthbound series has a villain named Porky Minch, who was Ness‘s (the protagonist) next door neighbour. Somewhere along the line, he got influenced by Giygus and then crossed the MEH. There’s two entries for him, one on Earthbound and one on Mother 3. I’m trying to decide on which entry I should keep.
YMMV.EarthBound
YMMV.Mother 3
Obviously, the Mother 3 entry isn’t written very well and will have to be trimmed; but the main issue is which one to keep. The former happened before what he did in Mother 3, but the later just has a bigger emotional impact.
I also asked this in the Moral Event Horizon Cleanup, but I just put this here too so I can get more consensus on what to do.
Edited by PlasmaPower