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pikachu17 Since: May, 2017
1st Nov, 2019 12:39:21 PM

I looked and didn't see anything on the Happiness page that suggested Jun was crossdressing. Could you tell me where exactly it says that?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
1st Nov, 2019 12:40:13 PM

It does say on YMMV.Happiness that Jun is crossdressing.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
1st Nov, 2019 12:40:13 PM

It does say on YMMV.Happiness that Jun is crossdressing.

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RAlexa21th Since: Oct, 2016
1st Nov, 2019 12:42:37 PM

The Laconic page and the Moe entry in the YMMV page.

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pikachu17 Since: May, 2017
1st Nov, 2019 12:59:19 PM

Those should be changed then. You might want to look at the editors who made those parts to make sure they're not homophobic, but otherwise it seems pretty open and shut.

EDIT:With a closer look, not sure how to salvage the Moe entry.

EDIT 2:"Jun, really. If it weren't for Jun, no one outside of Japan would have even heard of this. That and supposedly Jun's route is chosen more than all of the actual girls combined." needs to be changed to "Jun, really. If it weren't for Jun, no one outside of Japan would have even heard of this. That and supposedly Jun's route is chosen more than all of the other girls combined."

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RAlexa21th Since: Oct, 2016
1st Nov, 2019 01:54:13 PM

I edited the Laconic and YMMV pages. I also changed a single pronoun in the Visual Novel page.

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AzureSeas Since: Jan, 2011
1st Nov, 2019 04:22:11 PM

Probably worth nothing that the one who changed the examples to say Jun is transgender is NonTroper, who was bounced for being a Single-Issue Wonk about insisting that a character from another series was a trans girl.

pikachu17 Since: May, 2017
1st Nov, 2019 07:51:40 PM

^ Supposedly in the OVA Jun was overjoyed to be turned ibto a girl. If true, we can assume Jun is a transgirl unless a good reason not to is given.

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Sneekshion Since: Nov, 2019
1st Nov, 2019 08:18:26 PM

^pikachu17 I had watched it aswell, and this was the case. I remember her being extremely overjoyed at being a girl, and didn't want to give it up until she absolutely had to. Theres also a lot of other scenes like how the school and the girls treated her also as a girl, letting her go home with the girls rather than staying late with the boys to clean up, as well as allowing her into the girl's dressing room.

Edit: ^^What was the other character that was trans?

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RAlexa21th Since: Oct, 2016
1st Nov, 2019 10:31:19 PM

I brought all this up because I came across this video (made by a trans woman)

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Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
4th Nov, 2019 10:05:54 AM

Jun is trans. It's just that she's an iconic character amongst crossdressing anime/visual novel fans, so everyone calls her a crossdresser. She's billed as the series' Gay Option IIRC.

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