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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
5th Jan, 2019 08:19:42 AM

The troper, AHI-3000, has a tendency to make unilateral (and incorrect) page moves and redirects. I've had to revert several incorrect Franchise/ moves from him.

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
5th Jan, 2019 10:06:30 AM

So, erm... yeah. Revert. I can't do it myself since I need to stay unspoiled.

The proper page is WesternAnimation.Young Justice Outsiders. The year disambiguation is unnecessary.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
5th Jan, 2019 10:07:20 AM

I fixed YoungJustice.Revival Series and put it on the Cut List. However, it looks like there's also a YoungJustice.Original Series. Didn't catch the page without the year, but I can move stuff over there if preferred.

YoungJustice.Original Series seems to just be the tropes of the work, so I'll move them back to the main page.

EDIT: Given the point about the year being unnecessary, I have everything moved back to Young Justice: Outsiders, and have added YoungJustice.Revival Series, YoungJustice.Original Series, and WesternAnimation.Young Justice Outsiders 2019 to the Cut List. Also, while perhaps unnecessary at this point, given the likely result of all this namespace tomfoolery, I sent namespace notifiers to AHI-3000

New Edit: I got a reply from ~AHI-3000 about the pages. They said they were trying to split off the tropes similar to how it's done when pages get too bloated. They noted WesternAnimation.Regular Show, WesternAnimation.Samurai Jack, and WesternAnimation.Courage The Cowardly Dog, which also have subpages using the series name, as examples. However AHI is the one who made those subpages, going by the ones I checked, so I question the accuracy of that. I also explained that, even if that was the intent, that's not actually what was happening since the actual work pages were being used as redirects and YoungJustice.Original Series just put all the tropes on one separate page, which means there's no actual split.

All that said, I tried to check how other work pages do this and came across StevenUniverse.Tropes A To D, OnePiece.Tropes A To B, and TheDresdenFiles.Tropes A To M.

So is using the series as a namespace actually the right thing to do when splitting the tropes that way?

Edited by sgamer82
StFan Since: Jan, 2001
5th Jan, 2019 12:43:33 PM

Said troper AHI-3000 just moved the aforementioned Young Justice: Outsiders to Young Justice - Revival Series. I don't see the need for the move, as the previous title seemed to be correct. Maybe a few more notifiers are needed.

AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014
5th Jan, 2019 12:55:29 PM

Okay, let me just explain myself.

What I'm trying to do with Young Justice and Young Justice: Outsiders is to put all these trope lists for that show under one roof. When the Young Justice Outsiders 2019 page still existed, I didn't feel it was correct to spin off the newest season of that show into a separate article. So, I merged it back into Young Justice proper.

Though I was not made aware until now that apparently, you're not supposed to create a work subpage with the series name as the namespace (even though I've seen it being done with with other articles on this site; such as Samurai Jack, Regular Show, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc).

So I decided to make two different subpages for the original and revived series again, but this time with the stipulation that they should be under the "correct" namespace.

Also, I just wanted some internal consistency. "Original Series" referring to the first two seasons, "Revival Series" referring to the third season and onwards (including the fourth season, fifth season, or however much longer they're planning to continue this show). Outsiders is a subtitle that I think was meant just for Season 3 (just like Invasion for Season 2). Do you get my reasoning?

Edited by AHI-3000
RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
5th Jan, 2019 05:12:36 PM

Should a Season 4 happen, a further move can be made. However, until that happens, the proper title for the page is Young Justice: Outsiders, as it is unambiguous, avoids unnecessary year disambiguation, and avoids possible confusion as to the meaning of "revival series."

Character pages remain under Characters.Young Justice; Awesome/Fridge/etc. pages will likely be separate from the original series's pages.

If Season 4 and onwards do happen under another title (i.e. not Outsiders,) the "new" series will be renamed to something else, possibly WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2019.

As for Series/TropesWhateverToWhatever pages, that's a discussion for somewhere else.

Finally, as for ComicBook.YoungJustice2019 (same franchise but otherwise unrelated), it is currently custom titled (against policy) as "Young Justice (Bendis)" after the author. I propose that the page for the comic book be moved to that title, as "2019" is not sufficient for disambiguation.

Edited by RallyBot2
bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
5th Jan, 2019 09:17:33 PM

^ Agreed on that last point.

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