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Judging from the History, I hope you realize that you were edit warring and that you're likely to get a tap from the mods.
Anyway right now we should bring Night Spectre in this and explain his side of the story
Does it really count as an Edit War if, you know, one person is definitely right and the other person is definitely wrong? Because if Jepsen has had two top 10 hits she isn't a One-Hit Wonder, period.
It does count as an edit war.
Demonstrably false information on the wiki is of course a problem.
But it's also a problem that the entry is being added and removed all the time. It doesn't matter that one person is correct - the behaviour itself is disruptive. This is why people are being suspended over edit warring - not as a punishment, but to stop them from disrupting the wiki.
Edited by GnomeTitan
Edit Warring is simply going back and re-adding an entry someone else has removed (or vice versa). The accuracy of the entry is irrelevant and another matter entirely.
The other thing the one-hit wonder page needs is to remove the grouping of Idol contestants, because Jepsen was listed twice at one point, once under her own name and once with Canadian Idol.
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Guess it's a good thing I'm not a moderator then, because I don't think I could suspend someone for fixing another person's factual error.
In this case it would seem like somebody needs to give the other party in this exchange a tap on the shoulder.
Add-remove-add or remove-add-remove are edit wars, regardless of who is right or wrong. Once it hits that point, it's devolved into the text equivalent of "yes-huh! no-huh!", and it doesn't matter if someone has the facts on their side. They are behaving badly, doubly so if the issue is being talked about on the discussion page or in the forums.
The parties involved are suspended not because they are wrong or right, but because they are disrupting and often damaging the wiki. The moderators protect the wiki first, and make right/wrong judgement calls second, if they do. Often they simply concede to the Hive Mind consensus.
Edited by Candi Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
^ This pretty much sums it up. There are two separate issues here. Yes, there is a factually correct answer to the matter being edit-warred over. But that doesn't change the fact that it's being edit-warred over, which is a separate problem.
The important piece of this that hasn't come up is that there's an acceptable way to fix this without edit warring. The correct way to handle it is to go to the forums, discussion page or here and get a consensus. Just re-doing the same edit over and over again until one of you runs out of willpower or dies of old age is not a good way to handle things, even if one of you is demonstrably wrong.
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You can't get a consensus on whether or not something is factually accurate. It either is verifiably correct, or it isn't. If someone persists on replacing correct information with incorrect, they need to be prevented from doing so. I agree that edit wars are a problem, but "consensus" is not the only way to deal with them.
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"Good Time" isn't generally associated with her, so I wouldn't say it disqualifies her from the trope.
Peace is the only battle worth waging.
"Good Time" isn't generally associated with her, so I wouldn't say it disqualifies her from the trope.
Peace is the only battle worth waging.
Consensus can agree that, yes, X is very much a fact, even if the person messing with it insists that Y actually applies when it doesn't.
One of the benefits of the Hive Mind is that for just about anything with more than three fans, there will a sufficient number active on the site to help with finding and establishing facts.
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This particular example is messy for a few reasons.
First, the definition of "hit" is often a matter of debate. Does getting to 39 for a week qualify as a hit? Does it count more than staying at 41 for a month?
Then there's the fact "her" second biggest hit is a collaboration piece. I'm personally not sure if that should count, Owl City pretty much always gets top billing on it.
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@Larkman: I discussed the problems surrounding the definition of "hit" on the discussion page.
Peace is the only battle worth waging.
Yeah, plus it depends on whether we're going with the technical or cultural definition of One-Hit Wonder. The page itself says "But usually, a "one-hit wonder" is defined by cultural impact rather than chart placements..." which would qualify Jepson if we're not including "Good Time" as "Call Me Maybe" had a huge cultural impact, while... her other one (whose name I've genuinely forgotten) really hasn't.
The description makes no attempt to say which definition we're going by.
Whether the song is hers or not should probably be hashed out on the Discussion page, but I think figuring out the definition should be discussed here due to higher traffic. Seems a bit minor for TRS.
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No, it should NOT be discussed here. ATT is for quick things. Serious drawn out discussions belong in the forums.
Now this is just annoying. Someone keeps adding Carly Rae Jepsen to the one hit wonders page. She isn't a one hit wonder because she has two top 10 hits.