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Ultimatum (Old as dirt)
Amonimus (Sergeant)
23rd Apr, 2023 04:41:53 AM

^ Which is exactly what they're doing here?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Apr, 2023 04:42:18 AM

Eh? Why would they do that when this is the accepted way of reporting tropers?

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Ultimatum (Old as dirt)
23rd Apr, 2023 04:56:11 AM

shoot,I responded to the wrong person,my bad!

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Yindee Since: Jul, 2016
23rd Apr, 2023 05:43:53 AM

Looks like in their most recent page edit, they reworded it to not have chained sinkholes.

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Kuruni (Long Runner)
23rd Apr, 2023 06:22:51 AM

^ Yes, and I thought they understand it. But their most recent PM made it clear that they don't (and insist that I'm wrong one).

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
23rd Apr, 2023 10:23:00 AM

Looking through the PM's and edit, their argument is that:

are not sinkholes, which is strictly correct — the pages linked to are relevant to the text that links to them.

Regardless, I would agree that the Chained Sinkhole point about it being discouraged because "The reader has no clue there are multiple links there." applies to editing generally. I PM'd them that with a link to this discussion.

Kuruni (Long Runner)
23rd Apr, 2023 08:52:14 PM

Huh? So the cluster of miltiple links by itself is only bad writing but ok? I've feeling that then it won't listed as specific point since following the plain sinkhole part would automatically avoid it. But guess I would just be more lenient with it from now.

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Theharbo Since: Oct, 2011
23rd Apr, 2023 09:18:41 PM

So chained pot holes are strictly speaking okay, but chained sink holes aren't?

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Mrph1 MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
24th Apr, 2023 02:23:34 AM

As I understand it, chained links are the problem - and that applies whether the links are potholes or sinkholes.

The Administrivia sinkholes page does mention that chained links are treated as sinkholes, but it's not entirely clear (imo) about it.

I've proposed a rewrite (and an addition to the pothole page) over on the Administrivia update thread.

Edited by Mrph1
Theriocephalus Since: Aug, 2014
24th Apr, 2023 01:53:51 PM

Yeah, the basic issue as written seems to be that chained 'holes blend into one another and are difficult for readers to parse and distinguish. Since this is an interface problem rather than a link-text agreement problem, it would apply equally to potholes and sinkholes.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
24th Apr, 2023 02:04:03 PM

This query is about Sean Murray I. Please comment about the policy in the linked policy thread.

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