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Amonimus (Sergeant)
7th Oct, 2022 07:58:50 AM

You can poke them regarding Edit Reasons and Why You Should Use Them and remind them of this thread.

Regarding the examples, users aren't supposed to verify after others if an example is present in the trailer or not. The ones that do cite materials I'm not confident about without SupernaturalMurderHobo's comment.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
7th Oct, 2022 08:05:31 AM

Several of the commented out entries, especially Theme Mobile, are ZCE.

Reading the description for Version-Exclusive Content, I think a lot of those bullets may actually be misuse.

Edited by underCoverSailsman
NitroIndigo Since: Jun, 2021
7th Oct, 2022 08:06:58 AM

"Reading the description for Version Exclusives Content, I think a lot of those bullets may actually be misuse."

Howcome?

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
7th Oct, 2022 08:09:49 AM

I agree with the ZCE crit. A lot of the examples assume familiarity with Pokemon. Example:

  • Giant Enemy Crab: One of the Titan Pokémon fought in the "Seek Your Treasure!" trailer is a massive Klawf.

What is a Klawf? Is that a crab?

  • Underground Monkey: Regional variants return, with the first confirmed being Paldean Wooper, which is a Poison/Ground type.

What is a "regional variant"? Being a "Poison/Ground type" doesn't mean anything to people who don't know what a Wooper is.

Edited by Synchronicity
UFOYeah Since: Mar, 2022
7th Oct, 2022 08:13:27 AM

They've done the same thing for Sonic Frontiers, commenting out even tropes with entries that mention they were seen in official trailers and on the official game's website.

^ As for those two entries, they could still fit, they just need a bit more context. For example:

  • Giant Enemy Crab: One of the Titan Pokémon fought in the "Seek Your Treasure!" trailer is a massive Klawf, a Rock-type crab Pokemon (also referred to as the "Stony Cliff Titan").
  • Underground Monkey: Regional variants return, with the first confirmed being Paldean Wooper, which is a Poison/Ground type, as opposed to the Water/Ground type Wooper seen in other regions.

Edited by UFOYeah
underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
7th Oct, 2022 08:14:19 AM

^^^VEC talks a lot about how Bonus (skippable) content can vary from console to console, etc.

In this case, we are dealing with two separate games. Each has different set of core framing locations and characters, and a unique pokemon.

Edited by underCoverSailsman
Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
7th Oct, 2022 08:22:40 AM

they could still fit, they just need a bit more context.

Exactly. So the commenting out is justified.

underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
7th Oct, 2022 08:32:08 AM

Be aware that ~Bobthe Boldore reverted pretty much all of SMH's edits on the pokemon page.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
7th Oct, 2022 08:35:31 AM

At least the ThemeMobile example was by BobtheBoldore, so it's technically an editwar now.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
ShinyCottonCandy (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
7th Oct, 2022 08:48:08 AM

This is probably paranoia, but they’e a rather new account diving into cleanup for upcoming works like a certain prolific ban evader…

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
7th Oct, 2022 08:53:14 AM

I assume you mean SupernaturalMurderHobo. Most of their first edits being at She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, which is a chronic bad-faith magnet, makes it sound plausable.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
7th Oct, 2022 09:07:19 AM

SupernaturalMurderHobo turned out to be another HighCrate sock based on geolocation. I'll have to go over the rest of the discussion regarding BobtheBoldore's edits.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Libraryseraph (Five Year Plan)
7th Oct, 2022 09:07:32 AM

I think SCC means High Crate

(Whoops, ninja'd)

Edited by Libraryseraph Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
7th Oct, 2022 09:11:28 AM

I checked the page history and suspended BobtheBoldore because of repeated instances of uncommenting examples that have no citations. Go ahead and add the comment markup back for examples that lack citations (or add citations if you have them); feel free to cite this post.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
gjjones Since: Jul, 2016
7th Oct, 2022 09:18:47 AM

For what it's worth, I've also reported the HighCrate account to the ban evader reversion thread.

Edited by gjjones He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
huskiermango Since: Aug, 2022
7th Oct, 2022 09:59:57 AM

Is the idea to revert *every* edit by a ban evader, or just the bad ones? Because randomtroper89 just uncommented every comment tag on Sonic Frontiers without adding any citations, which I thought was what just got Bobthe Boldore in trouble.

themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
7th Oct, 2022 10:03:35 AM

Uh I hate to be that guy, but, as I said, in the BERT, ^ is not only a brand-new account that immediately went to defend HC, but their edits consist of commenting-out ZCEs, just like HC, and they are acting suspiciously like someone who's been here a while.

Requesting an IP check.

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup Of Complaining | Troper Wall
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
7th Oct, 2022 10:04:48 AM

The principle for ban evasion is that it makes every single edit in error. If other editors wish to re-make the edit in a slightly different fashion (such as by adding citations or explaining what is missing while commented-out), we encourage editors to do so. This is why we have a dedicated cleanup thread for editors to coordinate the removal/reversion of Ban Evaders, as mentioned ^^^. Please continue related discussion in that thread.


^ Yes, we've confirmed that.

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
7th Oct, 2022 10:06:19 AM

^ Wait, so does that mean they're HC? If they are, I'm going to let BERT know.

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup Of Complaining | Troper Wall
huskiermango Since: Aug, 2022
7th Oct, 2022 10:07:33 AM

Edit: Sorry, just meant as a goof but I guess it came off harsh. Have a nice day.

Edited by huskiermango
themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
7th Oct, 2022 10:08:49 AM

^ And that's just rude. I was only checking out of an abundance of caution.

EDIT: I see your edit. I'm retracting my comment.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup Of Complaining | Troper Wall
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
7th Oct, 2022 11:25:49 AM

For the record, huskiermango was also a HighCrate sock and was bounced earlier.

Anyway, I'm locking this because I think everything's been resolved.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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