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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Jul 21st 2022 at 2:41:33 PM

The flag here for Tsugumomo was sent with the rationale

While the anime adaptation tones down the sexual content, the manga nosedives into outright softcore pornography and is more than happy to sexualize a number of underaged and underaged-looking characters — including glorifying rape. Therefore, it is almost certainly in violation of the The Content Policy and the 5P Circuit.

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#2: Jul 21st 2022 at 7:10:19 PM

I brought this topic up previously, IIRC a year or two ago, having started following the manga due to its interesting initial premise — it occasional dives into Japanese folklore and Shintoism in a way few other series have, and it's not often tsukumogami Yōkai form the premise of a manga — only to be disgusted by what it started degenerating into. At first the raunchy content is sporadic and standard ecchi fare, but it starts getting seriously, seriously messed up and it just doesn't stop — and a quick check shows that the manga has only gotten more raunchy and sexually-explicit as time has gone on.

I can't find where I previously suggested it, but IIRC at the time it was suggested that the page for the manga be cut for 5P violation and only content pertaining to the thankfully Bowdlerised anime adaptation be permitted.

I've been waiting to see if that will happen, and it hasn't so I figured I'd bring it up again.

Edited by Arawn999 on Jul 21st 2022 at 7:13:28 AM

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#3: Aug 11th 2022 at 11:15:23 AM

Bumping. I don't want to go chapter by chapter and break down everything that violates the P5 policies, because that would take forever and require even more gallons of Brain Bleach.

Suffice to say that the manga starts off as standard ecchi shōnen fare, but then nosedives into softcore porn with sibling and parental incest, rape being played for laughs and fanservice, and several "loli" characters — both of the looks-underaged-but-is-actually-centuries-old and actually-underaged varieties — are not exempt to this. Much like To Love Ru: Darkness each chapter seems to delight in seeing how close the series can skirt towards crossing into actual hentai before getting banned by Japan's relatively recent laws cracking down on that sort of content.

Edited by Arawn999 on Aug 11th 2022 at 12:25:24 PM

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#4: Aug 11th 2022 at 12:11:32 PM

Based on what I've heard about this manga in other threads I vote to only trope the anime

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#5: Aug 11th 2022 at 12:24:35 PM

[up] Yep. The anime is heavily bowdlerised and only covers the early part of the manga.

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#6: Aug 12th 2022 at 7:18:33 AM

Just based on the few chapters that I skimmed through, what I saw is sketchy enough that I'd agree that the page should be limited to the anime.

Edited by Willbyr on Aug 12th 2022 at 9:18:58 AM

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#7: Aug 12th 2022 at 9:41:05 AM

[up] And it definitely gets worse as the series goes on.

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#8: Sep 7th 2022 at 11:15:09 AM

So... to bump this, do we have a somewhat consensus as to what should be done with this garbage fire of a series?

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#10: Sep 11th 2022 at 9:27:58 AM

Anime only.

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#11: Sep 18th 2022 at 4:24:06 AM

Keep only to the anime.

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#16: Sep 21st 2022 at 1:05:59 AM

Seems like we have consensus for restricting this to anime only, but it looks like we need to do some work to implement that decision (namespace move, examples cleanup). I'll do the record-keeping.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 21st 2022 at 10:06:05 AM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Sep 30th 2022 at 1:23:28 AM

Bump.

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#18: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:43:50 AM

Having not watched the anime, I won't be of much help there.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Oct 5th 2022 at 1:51:54 AM

Bump again.

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#20: Oct 6th 2022 at 1:40:40 PM

Is anything actually going to happen with this? Since I haven't watched this anime I'm afraid to touch this page for fear of breaking anything, but if we agree on resolutions it's probably a good idea to, y'know, put them in effect. At the very least we could start by moving it to the "Anime" namespace.

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#21: Oct 6th 2022 at 7:50:10 PM

Yeah, I haven't watched the anime, but I could try to help if possible.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Oct 15th 2022 at 1:31:03 AM

Bumping to get it out of the stack of locked threads.

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#23: Oct 18th 2022 at 7:46:44 PM

Most of the Character Page's content would be purged, since the majority relates to the manga.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#24: Oct 24th 2022 at 7:08:12 AM

Bumping to get it out of the stack of locked threads.

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#25: Oct 28th 2022 at 6:04:02 AM

Is there a way to formally request a namespace move?


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