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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#1: Sep 23rd 2010 at 2:34:28 PM

Madrugada says here:

Someone who is hallucinating due to some substance is Mushroom Samba, whether inadvertent intoxication caused it or not.

The trouble is "samba" sounds like more than just sitting around hallucinating. The name seems to describe a whole set of drugged-out behaviors — there's no reason why a trope about a "samba" shuld require hallucination, let alone center on it.

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#2: Sep 23rd 2010 at 2:35:55 PM

Mushrooms cause hallucinations when you take them.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Sep 23rd 2010 at 2:46:42 PM

I'm perfectly fine with the name. If you can find some misuse I might consider it.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#4: Sep 23rd 2010 at 2:53:00 PM

I did an informal sample and it was used correctly about half the time. I'll do a better one tomorrow and report my results.

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#6: Sep 23rd 2010 at 5:32:37 PM

Shima, it's not the "mushroom" part he's questioning. It's the "samba" part.

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#7: Sep 23rd 2010 at 5:49:39 PM

The trope is named after a Cowboy Bebop episode, which uses music themes for episode titles. The episode "Mushroom Samba" deals with the entire crew of the Bebop, save for a suspicious Ed who put the investigation under way, tripping out on mushrooms they ingested.

Even if you're not familiar with or enjoy Cowboy Bebop, the trope name is still a witty enough yet clear enough reference that mushrooms or hallucinogens would be involved with whatever it deals with. The name is just fine and not misleading at all. It's not like "samba" has to be a key descriptor.

edited 23rd Sep '10 5:51:02 PM by DRCEQ

carla from panama city, panama Since: Jan, 2010
#8: Sep 24th 2010 at 8:13:32 AM

i like the name. just the "mushroom" part seems to convey very well what the trope is about, and personally i've never seen it misused. i'm okay with it staying as is.

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#9: Oct 12th 2010 at 4:16:37 PM

Peyote Ugly is rather clever, but as said it was based on the Cowboy Bebop Trope Namer where the crew eat shooms and trip out. We could name it after the Samurai Champoloo episode where they imagine zombies and nukes if that was a more appropriate name, but I'm fine with it.

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#10: Oct 12th 2010 at 4:21:11 PM

I'm fine with the name, but if we want alternatives, maybe A Trip Down Mushroom Lane.

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#13: Oct 12th 2010 at 8:58:02 PM

Reading through the trope again Mushroom Samba is about the accidental or G-Rated Drug form of ingestion. If Peyote Ugly as a trope is popular enough then with that in mind I suggest it be used for hallucinations after deliberate drug and alcohol consumption. But that's just my opinion, it doesn't mean anything.

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#14: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:06:07 AM

Peyote Ugly? That is a very opaque name; aside from the pun on Coyote Ugly (which I've never seen) I don't get what it has to do with drugs.

edited 13th Oct '10 8:07:09 AM by Stratadrake

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#15: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:16:35 AM

Peyote is a type of hallucinogen. It's got everything to do with drugs.

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#16: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:06:57 PM

Oh, okay. As you can probably tell, I've actually never heard the term before.

Alternate brainstorming: Tripped On Mushrooms

edited 13th Oct '10 8:07:39 PM by Stratadrake

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#17: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:17:17 PM

Some forms of mushrooms are in fact an illicit drug. As the trope states it is the G-Rated Drug or non intentional consumption of drugs which makes it fit. In Cowboy Bebop's case Ed sees how Ein reacts to one so she leaves one for the starving crew to see how they react. If the crew were eating mushrooms to get high then it would be a case of tripping on shooms.

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Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Oct 13th 2010 at 9:16:17 PM

I like the current name myself.

BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Oct 14th 2010 at 5:06:24 AM

I vote keep; Mushroom is clear enough even if Samba isn't.

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#20: Oct 14th 2010 at 4:46:15 PM

Maybe an alt-title or two to help new tropers find it?

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#21: Oct 14th 2010 at 5:19:58 PM

^ That's why we're suggesting Peyote Ugly as a redirect.

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