Review of VisualNovel/BlissStageLoveIsYourWeapon: Visual Novel.Bliss Stage Love Is Your Weapon

The flag here for BlissStageLoveIsYourWeapon was sent with the rationale

I don't know anything about the work but looks like P5 voted to "do nothing" for this game in the past.

By Kickstarter failure, as in the VN never actually released and is Vaporware?

It's not even listed on Wikipedia (I checked).

So, if it's not even released, there's a good chance it just won't exist, period. That is grounds for a move to Darth if we're keeping.

Edited by Berrenta on Jul 27th 2022 at 6:56:22 AM

Pretty much the only info I can find on this is the abandoned for 8 years Kickstarter page, and forums discussing the kickstarter (not counting TVT or other trope sites).

Cut for being Vaporware, if we're concerned about the potential pedo pandering, don't put it on Darth.

The whole thing appears to be a self-promotion too, according to TabletopGame.Bliss Stage, the troper Tsundere Lightning was the poked by them for help with this vaporware visual novel, and created its page (and they primarily edited things related to Bliss Stage, apart from two unrelated edits in 2015).

Edited by Tonwen on Aug 2nd 2022 at 4:13:07 AM

Vaporware cut. As it isn't published, we can't judge whether it falls under the pedopandering rule or not.

Cut it for Vaporware.

If it's Vaporware, shouldn't it be on Steam?

Seriously, cut based on that.

Ayyyy

But yeah cut

I found the thread I was looking for here. The VN was angeled and I don't think the P5 found anything incredibly damning. But since the game is now gone in the aether, I don't care about cutting it.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 3rd 2022 at 7:17:09 AM

Yeah. We're not cutting as a P5 issue, we're cutting because the work doesn't exist.

You know, even if the Kickstarter failed, did part of the actual work get made? Because if yes it wouldn't count as "vaporware".

Played through the demo.

Probably enough to trope, but the page needs a clean of ZCEs and speculative troping, as most of what's being troped isn't in the demo proper and is instead stuff that was planned but not added.

The main reason for this weirdness is that the page editor is(or would it be was?) working for the developer and had access to insider plans and such, and could trope things that weren't properly expressed yet.

I'm going to clean the YMMV page myself right now though, as it contains nothing more than a bunch of in-jokes put under Memetic Mutation, a general example speculating about Nightmare Fuel that might be added later, and a trivia item (Vaporware).

Uh. Could you cut anything not ever released?

I'll comb through the main and character pages to cut it down to things I know or at least reasonably think could be inferred from the demo, the page may need to have its character page migrated over to give enough valid trope to avoid getting axed.

The YMMV page is cutlist fodder and I've already send it there.

Ugh, the character page is gonna be a nightmare because it's basically gonna require constantly cross-checking and comparing to the demo, there is ZERO distinction between what's actually in the demo and what isn't. At the very least I can axe anything related to various paths, as the game never really gets to the point where your choices mean anything or branch off. The worst part is that a lot of the tropes are the character page are just quotes with no other context... can I just cut those or comment them out? I really would rather not have to comb through the demo multiple times just to make sure that they are actually in the public version of the demo.

Edited by Tonwen on Aug 3rd 2022 at 6:33:11 AM

(Making a fresh post on purpose)

Did some cleaning of the character page, cut the YMMV page, and cleaned the main page.

I'm considering a second pass on the character page as lots of the examples are low context and I was rather loose with what qualified as "present in the demo".

Requesting someone else at least peek at Characters.Bliss Stage Love Is Your Weapon for context checks.

Edited by Tonwen on Aug 3rd 2022 at 11:40:47 AM

Honestly would it be better to just cut the character page and move it's tropes to main. The fact their is only one main trope is weird.

What do you mean, only one main trope?

Here.

Bliss Stage: Love Is Your Weapon

Their is literally only one trope on the main page.

...There's only one trope on the work page?

Oh. I thought you meant there was only one trope on the character page.

Still don't think we should cut the latter though.

Well, the characters page has examples with context but the work page doesn't. I sent the latter to the cutlist.

Er... You know we can't just have orphaned subpages, right? The correct protocol is to do exactly what was suggested - move the tropes to the work page and cut the characters page.

What?

I'm sorry — I've never really gone to this part of the forum and assumed that was supposed to be what I was doing. My apologies.

It's fine. I declined the cut request. Anyways, yeah lets work on moving the character tropes to the work page so that we can resolve and close this thread.