I clicked through to the DLsite storefront and I can't tell how old the characters are supposed to be, and it's got some pretty explicit FF sex in the CGs. Is there any canonical statement of their ages?
Edited by StarSword on Feb 22nd 2024 at 12:59:21 PM
The previous discussion said that everyone involved is canonically Totally 18. Also, the characters are robots, so their chronological age means nothing one way or another.
Here's an image of the problematic character that got it axed last time.◊
Googling "katahane belle nude" (do not google this at work)...I'm...personally leaning toward thinking it's the art style looking young, rather than the character being portrayed as child-coded. The P5 who made this decision said otherwise, but that was a different day.
Leaning toward restore.
I mean, she is remarkably flat chested in a way that implies immaturity. I can see why it would cause concern.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI'm seeing "flat-chested" but not as an implication of immaturity. The last thing we want to do is imitate Australian censors.
I mean, she just visibly looks young. Borderline pre-pubescent. So like I said, I get why people thought she was a child. Flat chests are hardly an art style thing.
Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 22nd 2024 at 1:31:18 PM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessLooking at a couple of the explicit CGs, she does have breasts. They're just small, but she absolutely does not have a child's chest.
Fwiw there's a PS Vita version that's rated 17+, with the explicit sexual content removed.
Edited by Zazie122 on Feb 23rd 2024 at 7:37:19 AM
Avatar: Amethio (Pokemon Horizons)That seems like an argument to just go with the Self-Censored Release, then. From the CGs I saw, the Vague Age issue was really pushing it.
Honestly I'd rather go all the way and trope the 18+ version.
This is Idol Tap. (My Troper Wall)i'd rather keep the Vita release but i could go either way
Stan GaruKaru for clear skinTo be clear, I wasn't saying the character was a child. Just that I can see why she was an issue last time.
I'm not too concerned over which version we keep, though.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessOkay, yeah, that's fair. Apologies if I sounded like I was trying to argue with you!
Avatar: Amethio (Pokemon Horizons)No worries ~
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessLooking at CG, I'll lean on Belle looking too close to a child for my comfort, even if taking the moe blob artstyle.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupKeep the PS Vita version.
MB Pending | MB Drafts | MB DatesOh, forgot to add my actual vote, oops.
I'm on the fence. Personally I think things are too vague to judge one way or another (especially since the characters are dolls and not humans), and considering it was cut before, I think I'm gonna go with Clean version only.
Ideally, I'd want to restore it and trope the 18+ version since I don't personally consider this obvious pedo-pandering (sure, it's borderline with some of the character designs, but it doesn't seem as blatant as a lot of eroge are lol), but I do understand why people find the design uncomfortable, and ultimately I don't know this VN at all, so I'm okay with just troping the clean version.
Avatar: Amethio (Pokemon Horizons)Keep the clean version(s), discard the rest.
Absolute RainbowKeep, including the 18+ version.
Keep clean version
Keep all versions.
Come play Character Uplift Game!Keep Clean Version Only: StarSword, Amonimus, AbsoluteRainbow, StalkerGamer
Keep All Versions, Including 18+: JHD0919, Ramidel, callmeamuffin, Siegfried1337, animuacid, jandn2014, DemonDuckofDoom, worldwidewoomy, Zazie122
Restore (no versions specified): miraculous
Clean Version Votes: 3 (not including Rainbow's)
All Versions Votes: 9
Looks like we have good concensus to trope all versions of the game, including 18+.
Edited by JHD0919 on Feb 24th 2024 at 1:46:47 PM
This is Idol Tap. (My Troper Wall)...actually, upon taking a second look, I have decided to change my vote to keep all.
MB Pending | MB Drafts | MB DatesKeep all versions. The wiki already has VNs such as The Song of Saya that contains sex scenes involving a short, small-breasted girl with ambiguous age due to her non-human nature and who is not characterized in-universe as a child.
Edited by animuacid on Feb 24th 2024 at 6:56:49 PM
Keep all, I suppose.
back lol
The Main/ version of this page (back when work pages were allowed to be in the Main/ namespace) was cut by 5P ages ago due to pedopandering. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. To me, pretty much every character who has sex in this VN looks like they're in their teens. Thus, I believe this page never should have been cut, and I humbly request it is restored.
(For reference, here's a link to each character's profile, courtesy of VNDB)
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