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Paging ~El Rise to the thread. Anyway, I agree with cutting for being an old page that's simply The Same, but More to Sword and Sorcery (Sword and Sorcery done badly).
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Searching up the term online, it just brings up the titular Anderson essay
There is a Wikitionary entry about it
but ehhhhh
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Oh, right, neglected to link to the previous TRS thread. It happened in 2020 and was for complaining, and I don't remember if anyone brought up The Same, but More (I might go back through it later).
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The whole trope is a thud and blunder in itself and is best to be cut.
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I saw that this was listed on Tropes Needing TRS with the following description:
- Thud And Blunder: Only 7 examples and 5 wicks. Named for a 1978 essay critiquing cliched fantasy writing, this seems to be defined as "Rated M for Manly Sword and Sorcery, but bad."
So it was listed there for the same reason I mentioned being in favor of cutting it in the second post of this thread. I also looked at the previous TRS thread and there were arguments in favor of a page for the term being useful, but I disagree because it seems like the term was only used by that one essay instead of being anything widespread, and I don't think there's anything stopping anyone from making a work page for the essay itself if anyone wants the term to have some sort of presence on the wiki.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 13th 2024 at 11:37:17 AM
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Edited by GrafVonTirol on Jan 13th 2024 at 10:47:23 AM
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I think the idea of Thud and Blunder was to criticize that lack of realism and even common sense and logic. For example having 50 lbs swords and treating horses like motorcycles. So I think the article is also wrong.
Edited by ry4n on Jan 14th 2024 at 12:35:44 PM
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Agree to cut, but since we are a catalogue of tropes, I think we should acknowledge the term in the Sword and Sorcery article. Something like "unrealistic and formulaic sword and sorcery stories have been referred to with the disparaging term 'thud and blunder'", and a link to Andersen's essay.
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Jan 14th 2024 at 5:23:31 AM
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Definitely cut.
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Since the page is wick-starved, let's go ahead and cut.
Edit: Enacted Doktorvon Eurotrash's suggestion in post 18.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 14th 2024 at 9:40:33 AM
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Just one wick left and someone appears to be in the process of removing it, so locking.
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Note: This thread was proposed by El Rise.
Launched in 2010, yet it only amassed 9 wicks and 8 on-page examples. This makes it wick-starved and example-starved. Moreover, according to the description in the main page, it is a specific style of Sword and Sorcery that's frowned upon (i.e., "bad"). Just cut it.
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