One of the many site updates Kory plans to push in the near future is for everyone's user creation to be publicly displayed. However, we didn't start to record user creation dates until sometime pre-2010, so accounts older than that get internally labeled as being created 1/1/2001 even though the site didn't exist back then. So, kory asked me to make this thread on his behalf so that we can get community input on what we should do with accounts that were created pre-2010
EDIT from Kory: Given that the code seems fairly easy, at least in this case, I have a proposal, just need community feedback for options:
Everyone will have the option to just show their regular date OR a drop-down list of options based on their account age such as: (Current Options)
- < 1 year = ("Pilot", “Private”, "Holding A Herring", “Troper Youngling”, “ Troper in training”, “Greenhorn”, “Newbie”, “The New Guy/Girl/Person”, "Green Spout", "Plucky Enseign", "Apprentice") and ?
- > 1 year = ("Handed A Sword", "Less Newbie", "Season 1", "Series 1", “Troper Apprentice”, “ Experienced but not yet jaded”, “Life not ruined yet”, “Unitroper”) and ?
- > 2 years = ("Striking Back", "Season 2", "Series 2", “Sergeant”, "Y2: Electric Boogaloo", "Troper Journeyman", “Experienced Trainee”, "Terrible Twos", “Bitroper”) and ?
- > 3 years = (“3 is a Magic Number”, "Not-So-Newbie", "Trinitroper", "Searching for Spock", “Troper Squire”, “Rule of Three”, “Tritroper”) and ?
- > 5 years = (“Five Year Plan”, “Captain”, "Pentatroper", "Fifth Year at Tropey's", “Troper Knight”, “ Five Long Years”) and ?
- > 7 years = ("Rule of Seven", "Seven Years' War", "Seventh Son”, “Septatroper”, “Spin-off Series”, “4 Score & 7 Years Ago”, “Lucky 7”, "Petty Master") and ?
- > 10 years = ("Elder Troper", "Long Runner", “Edited uphill both ways”, “Major”, "X-Troper", "Decatroper", “Master Troper”, “Old as dirt”, “Don’t ask”, “Wise, aged troper”, “it’s Ben 10”, “Veteran”, "Ten years in the joint") and ?
- > 13 years = ("Living Relic", "Sage of the Hills", "Oldest One in the Book", "Ancient one", “Decorated Troper”, “Old Master”, "On A Trope Odyssey", "Unlucky Thirteen", “Troper Sage”, “Marshall", "Emeritus Troper")
- > 15 years (includes 2001) = ("Precursor", “OG troper”, “Great Old One”, “Before Time Began”, “Troper of Legend”, "Time Abyss", "Primordial Chaos", “ y2k”, “tvtrope Prime”, “Before Recorded History”, “Series Finale”, “Old enough to drive”, “General of TV Troops”, "Mammoth", "Living Relic", "Tropes Time Lord", "Prehistoric Troper") and ?
We would just need to fill these in with some more funny / clever options. I’ll make the list big just like the relationship status so make as many suggestions as you want below!
- 1,034 accounts have logged in this year that are > 15 years old
- 1,428 accounts have logged in this year that are > 14 years old
- 3,197 accounts have logged in this year that are > 13 years old
- 5,841 accounts have logged in this year that are > 12 years old
- 7,837 accounts have logged in this year that are > 11 years old
- 10,390 accounts have logged in this year that are > 10 years old
- 19,663 accounts have logged in this year that are > 7 years old
- 24,102 accounts have logged in this year that are > 5 years old
- 28,639 accounts have logged in this year that are > 3 years old
- 31,356 accounts have logged in this year that are > 2 years old
- 34,476 accounts have logged in this year that are > 1 years old
- 7,921 accounts have logged in this year that are < 1 years old
So 42,397 users have logged in this year.
Edited by kory on Aug 1st 2023 at 12:29:50 PM
I prefer option 1.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallMaybe let people choose on an individual basis (like relationship status) if it's possible.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?I asked about that but Kory said that giving user a drop-down menu will require more code so he wants to choose between the options presented in the OP.
Macron's notesEDIT: after looking at the code it seems fairly easy to add a dropdown list of options or everyone. Just need to choose what options.
There's about ~1000 users with this issue VS the 450,000+ total users so allowing people to choose would be a bit of extra code for just a select group. The vast majority of peoples created dates are accurate so no need to change them.
It's extremely easy to code if we want to turn all those dates into a single option like "OG Troper" or randomly pick one on page load from a list. Or even change everyone's date thats older than 10 years to start picking from the list as well.
Edited by kory on Jun 28th 2023 at 3:54:54 AM
Now monitoring Wishlist and BugsI'd say just display "OG Troper".
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)Agreed. Maybe add a lil tidbit that they were on TVT before 2010 as well in case of newcomers stumbling upon them and wondering what OG means?
Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."Just use "OG Troper" or something similar. An alttext hint also wouldn't hurt.
Edited by Amonimus on Jun 28th 2023 at 12:44:27 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup"OG troper" is probably the best, but for some reason my brain came up with "Ancient One"
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessHmm. Well I was looking at the code for your profile and I think it actually is easy to add a drop-down list of options for everyone. If you guys think everyone would like that?
I could make it so every year or every few years your account ages you get new options added to the drop-down and have a single special option for people with the 2001 date.
Edited by kory on Jun 28th 2023 at 3:21:35 AM
Now monitoring Wishlist and BugsHow about we make the "account created" field read "Before recorded history"? It sounds sufficiently impressive while also being technically accurate.
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.Hey, it would be cool if users whose accounts would have this "OG user" / "Older than dirt" / etc thing could get a badge to commemorate this!
Anyway, I'm really cool with whatever the community prefers.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessGiven that the code seems fairly easy, at least in this case, I have a proposal:
Everyone will have the option to just show their regular date OR a drop-down list of options based on their account age such as:
- < 1 year = Newbie, The New Guy/gal/person,
- > 1 year = ?
- > 2 years = ?
- > 5 years = ?
- > 10 years = ?
- > 15 years = ?
- 2001 date = “OG troper”
Would just need to fill these in with some funny / clever options most people agree on.
warjay77, my changes to the badge shop fixes the maintain badges page so the mods can update current badges and upload new ones anytime.
Edited by kory on Jun 28th 2023 at 3:34:48 AM
Now monitoring Wishlist and BugsI am good with whatever the community chooses.
As for a badge, we would need somebody to volunteer and make one (unless there's a active mod that's good at designing badges)
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 28th 2023 at 7:09:20 AM
Macron's notesEDIT: This is off-topic, so I self-thumped.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jun 28th 2023 at 7:07:42 AM
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall- For longer than ten years: Wise, aged troper
- For longer than a year: Experienced but not yet jaded
- For less than a year: Troper in training
And that's I got right now.
Edited by Acebrock on Jun 28th 2023 at 6:46:29 AM
My troper wallI'm not sure what the point of making this information public is, but the only way I can imagine wanting to use it is if I get to display as "One of the Oldest Ones in the Book", or possibly "Time Abyss" or "Primordial Chaos" or something.
The Revolution Will Not Be TropeableOh? Okay, then, I guess! All of those were meant as versions of the 2001 date category (though maybe "Oldest Ones in the Book" might be more appropriate for >15 years, rather than the one which is strictly speaking older than the record book).
The Revolution Will Not Be TropeableAdded current suggestions to the OP. Keep in mind it will have the word "joined:" or "Since:" before the date.
Or i could make it so if you choose a text option the "Since:" or "Joined:" doesn't show.
Here's a mock-up of what it will look like for a newer user VS older user:
Edited by kory on Jun 29th 2023 at 3:10:43 AM
Now monitoring Wishlist and BugsInstead of settling for one singular option for each age, maybe we can take titles from works and have multiple options. Like Relationship Status since I took inspiration from that.
For example, going with Star Wars:
- <1 year — Troper Youngling
- >1 year — Troper Apprentice
- >5 years — Troper Knight
- >10 years — Master Troper
And people can make other suggestions to add to that list for different ages.
Edited by Karxrida on Jun 30th 2023 at 6:56:04 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?I like the idea on the image if the creation date is unknown letting the user pick it from a list.
Edited by Amonimus on Jun 30th 2023 at 5:24:51 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI wonder how old timers that no longer use their older handles could be marked as (granted I'm not the oldest, but I have been around since '09 or '10 IIRC). Probably the date of the newest account would still be fair I suppose.
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 410/1089 (37.65%)Just noting that my suggestions haven't been added to the OP.
My troper wall
One of the many site updates Kory plans to push in the near future is for everyone's user creation to be publicly displayed. However, we didn't start to record user creation dates until sometime pre-2010, so accounts older than that get internally labeled as being created 1/1/2001 even though the site didn't exist back then. So, kory asked me to make this thread on his behalf so that we can get community input on what we should do with accounts that were created pre-2010
EDIT from Kory: Given that the code seems fairly easy, at least in this case, I have a proposal, just need community feedback for options:
Everyone will have the option to just show their regular date OR a drop-down list of options based on their account age such as: (Current Options)
We would just need to fill these in with some more funny / clever options. I’ll make the list big just like the relationship status so make as many suggestions as you want below!
So 42,397 users have logged in this year.
Edited by kory on Aug 1st 2023 at 12:29:50 PM
Macron's notes