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Name-face Name attracts zero-context examples for some reason, both on and off-page. Possibly the name creates the impression that it is only referring to characters with the word "face" in their name, although it is actually when a character's name comes from a characteristic of their face. I performed a wick check. The results from a total of 39 examples in all of the wicks were:

  • Correct: 15/39 (38.46%) Refer to examples where the name refers to a characterstic of the character's face. I included examples where their face and their body were the same.
  • ZCE: 21/39 (53.84%) Include examples where only the name is stated. Possible misuse as well, but not enough context to tell.
  • Misuse/unclear: 3/39 (7.69%) Include examples where the characters name simply ends in "-face" or it is unclear what the name refers to.

I left out five wicks that were unclassifiable.

Possible solutions: Rename to something clearer.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 9th 2022 at 7:24:45 AM

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#1: Sep 6th 2022 at 4:22:17 AM

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    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by Walk In Shadows, who gave others permission to make the thread.

Name-face Name attracts zero-context examples for some reason, both on and off-page. Possibly the name creates the impression that it is only referring to characters with the word "face" in their name, although it is actually when a character's name comes from a characteristic of their face. I performed a wick check. The results from a total of 39 examples in all of the wicks were:

  • Correct: 15/39 (38.46%) Refer to examples where the name refers to a characterstic of the character's face. I included examples where their face and their body were the same.
  • ZCE: 21/39 (53.84%) Include examples where only the name is stated. Possible misuse as well, but not enough context to tell.
  • Misuse/unclear: 3/39 (7.69%) Include examples where the characters name simply ends in "-face" or it is unclear what the name refers to.

I left out five wicks that were unclassifiable.

Possible solutions: Rename to something clearer.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 9th 2022 at 7:24:45 AM

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#2: Sep 6th 2022 at 4:22:57 AM

Paging ~Walk In Shadows per the TRS Queue.

Anyway, renaming sounds good.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 6th 2022 at 6:23:34 AM

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#4: Sep 6th 2022 at 5:38:31 AM

Not sure if any other name would help ZCE per Personal Appearance Tropes curse, and the scope is rather specific, resulting in not very impressive wick count.

Is there a "Named after physical appearance" Meaningful Name trope? Thinking this could be expanded to include more than a face.

Edited by Amonimus on Sep 6th 2022 at 3:58:24 PM

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#6: Sep 6th 2022 at 5:56:54 AM

[up][up]Now that you've mentioned it, I'm changing my vote to merging this with Meaningful Name between the low wick count and ZCE problem. If someone finds a Meaningful Name subtrope that would still cover this, we could merge with that instead.

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#8: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:05:00 AM

I'm good with a merge with Meaningful Name.

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#9: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:06:01 AM

Yeah, merge. (I keep changing my vote—I apologize. I have got to think these threads through more thoroughly.)

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#10: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:24:06 AM

[up]There's nothing wrong with changing your vote, especially when the thread is still in the discussion stage. I've changed my vote plenty of times, generally (if not always) because an argument in a later post pointed out something that convinced me to change it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 6th 2022 at 8:24:32 AM

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#11: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:38:03 AM

The solutions in the op are only meant to be suggestions because we're supposed to suggest something ourselves.

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#12: Sep 6th 2022 at 6:38:08 AM

[up][up] Good to know, thanks Gaston.

Anyway as I said I'm in favor of a merge.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 6th 2022 at 9:38:15 AM

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#13: Sep 6th 2022 at 7:48:31 AM

[tup] Merge.

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#14: Sep 6th 2022 at 8:21:13 AM

I was initially questioning whether or not this was even a trope, but merging with Meaningful Name works.

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#23: Sep 9th 2022 at 2:37:43 AM

Edit: Retracted since the crowner was replaced.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 9th 2022 at 7:18:48 AM

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#24: Sep 9th 2022 at 2:44:29 AM

[up]Rename? But I thought the majority decision was to merge this to Meaningful Name. If it's going to be merged, renaming wouldn't be necessary.

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#25: Sep 9th 2022 at 2:52:47 AM

I downvoted it because [up]

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