Complaining: Generic Doomsday Villain

Sandbox started, expanding from Flat Character.

bump. how's the sandbox going?

where is the sandbox?

There isn't really one yet, I think, because trying to define "flat villain" in a way that doesn't invite complaining is something that is, if not impossible, very difficult. I predict that is why the thread has stalled.

Crazy said there was one, but it's not been linked.

I think it's here

Any more feedback regarding the sandbox? I personally think it looks fine.

Might as well go ahead and move it to get the thread moving again, since nobody raised any objections.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 31st 2022 at 8:35:57 AM

Swapped in the description. I guess what's next is cleaning the on page examples and wicks

I think "Flat Destructive Villain" would work well. This is literally the definition of the trope condensed into three words - a *Flat* character who is a *Villain* shows up and is *Destructive*. Literal, precise, and simple titles have a history of working pretty well on this wiki. If we get into figurative stuff like "force of nature" or "mindless" I think we run the risk of fire elementals or hurricanes or whatever.

There is a risk of "Flat" being interpreted as "Badly written/underdeveloped". Maybe you guys can think of a better word for that, I've looked around in thesauruses and have not come up with something better. It seems at least adequate, though.

So, what's next after the description swap? Do we have to clean the wicks? If so, what should we be looking for?

I think yes, though I'm unsure exactly what we'll be searching for, sorry.

Bumping for more input

Probably only cleanup using the first sentence of the new description as the key. Similar to new Hate Sink, the examples may be contradicting other tropes on a character or inside context, so it'd be a bit more difficult than usual.

Imo, Tropes Are Tools are in effect with the name. Being generic isn't bad as long as the character itself is entertaining. Aimless Villain, Villain With No Motive, or Flat Villain are good replacements, but if we are sticking true to the trope in question, Villain Defined By Power also works.

bumping. is there enough consensus to close the thread?

Uh.... no? We still need to decide if we can swap the sandbox and stuff, I think?

I think the sandbox was already swapped. Now it's just cleaning up, right?

I think so, but I admit that I lost track of this thread due to how long it's been on TRS combined with how little activity it's had after the discussion phase.

Probably because people, including me, are confused on just what Generic Doomsday Villain is now.

I'm tempted to just clock the thread since the sandbox was already swapped in. Any objections?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 28th 2022 at 7:38:31 AM

No objections. I asked if cleanup was necessary a couple of months but I didn't get a clear answer if I am reading things right.

Edited by MacronNotes on Sep 28th 2022 at 8:39:56 AM

Considering what Macron said about going a couple of months with no answer, I think I'll just close this a day early.