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#26: Nov 15th 2021 at 6:56:27 AM

I called it due to having enough posts in favor of the move. If you really need a crowner, go ahead and start one.

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#27: Nov 15th 2021 at 10:03:36 AM

Aren’t the crowners going through an overhaul?

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#28: Nov 15th 2021 at 10:19:36 AM

They have already gone through one, the key difference is that only mods can only make them for now. Write the options (Not sure which at this point, rename or not to rename?) and holler the post.

Edited by Amonimus on Nov 15th 2021 at 9:19:55 PM

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#29: Nov 18th 2021 at 2:16:15 AM

The only option would be whether to rename, so it would be a Single Proposition crowner. If there's enough consensus to rename, we'd run an Alternative Titles crowner. If the rename option lacks consensus, we'd move the page and wicks back and presumably close the thread.

Anyway, to give my own $0.02, I don't see anything wrong with the current situation. As was previously said, we'd keep Weird Al Effect as a redirect to Parody Displacement if we kept things the way they are now, so links to the page wouldn't break.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 18th 2021 at 4:19:58 AM

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#30: Nov 20th 2021 at 11:16:32 AM

Yeah, all we'd need is a single-prop. But tbh, with the crowner overhaul and how much consensus we already have, I'm not personally sure it's necessary.

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#31: Nov 20th 2021 at 12:28:06 PM

We can just ask the mod to put a yes/no crowner here for the sake of it being documented then move on as ususal after 3 days.

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#32: Nov 22nd 2021 at 1:11:02 AM

Added a crowner as requested in the Discussions about moderation thread in FAQ.

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#33: Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:11:12 PM

Would Vindicated By Parody be a good name, especially for the audience learning of the original work's existence through parody?

Edited by Nen_desharu on Nov 22nd 2021 at 11:12:02 AM

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#34: Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:14:22 PM

Not to my taste, but that can be an option if we decide to do a crowner for that as well. The current "decision" settled on Parody Displacement, and I'd personally keep it.

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#35: Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:14:56 PM

I mean, Vindicated By Parody isn't even the same trope idea.

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#36: Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:35:01 PM

[up]Fair point.

Vindicated By Parody could become a separate trope from Parody Displacement.

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#37: Nov 25th 2021 at 8:01:41 AM

Wouldn't Vindicated By Parody be covered by either Colbert Bump or Newbie Boom? Weird Al Effect/Parody Displacement is about the parody becoming more well known than the original; whether it causes people who hear the parody to seek out the original isn't part of the definition.

Edit: Also, I noticed that the trope name was misspelled as Weird AI Effect in the crowner, which is why the link is red. (Maybe it could go on Lousy Alternate Titles as another name for A.I. Is a Crapshoot.)

Edit: I accidentally typed "people to hear the parody" instead of "people who hear the parody" because I had been up for hours when I originally posted this. I fixed the typo now that I've slept.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 26th 2021 at 7:27:15 AM

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#38: Nov 29th 2021 at 12:51:59 PM

Calling for a rename, please compile alternative names.

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#39: Nov 29th 2021 at 12:52:56 PM

I think the only one suggested so far that got any sort of traction was Parody Displacement.

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#40: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:26:48 PM

It's what was "picked" last time and I still prefer it.

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#41: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:30:23 PM

Hold on a sec it seems to have already been renamed to Parody Displacement (or at least that is where the content is).

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#42: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:31:56 PM

Because we started going ahead with the rename before Septimus protested and we did an obligatory crowner.

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#44: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:33:08 PM

Yeah, but we still haven't moved most Weird Al Effect wicks there. If anyone raises an objection, we'd have to do another rename.

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#45: Nov 29th 2021 at 5:01:46 PM

In addition to Parody Displacement and Parodied Up (the latter of which mirrors Sampled Up), I thought of Overshadowed By Parody recently.

As for the page being moved to Parody Displacement already, that was before it was decided to redo the vote.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 29th 2021 at 7:02:44 AM

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#46: Nov 29th 2021 at 5:11:23 PM

Does this trope apply to the original work or to the parody? If the latter, something like More Famous Parody might work (compare More Popular Spin-Off)

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#47: Nov 29th 2021 at 5:28:58 PM

[up]It means the parody became more well known than the original, so More Famous Parody works.

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#48: Nov 29th 2021 at 5:30:05 PM

I'm working on migrating wicks, and there was an example on Fountain of Memes I had to comment out because its only one piece of context isn't accurate anymore and I don't know what else to do with the example.

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#49: Nov 29th 2021 at 5:31:53 PM

We haven't decided what to call this, so hold off on moving wicks.

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#50: Nov 29th 2021 at 6:36:51 PM

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Then why is the page currently at Parody Displacement? If we haven't figured out the final name yet, then it should be moved back.

And also, I take it the star can't be removed from the thread, since that's adding to the confusion here.

Edited by Serac on Nov 29th 2021 at 9:38:29 AM

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Consensus was to rename Weird Al Effect. What should its new name be?

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